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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 19 15:00:47 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:00 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
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| lseki | o/ | 15:01 |
| danielarthurt | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso amito tbarron | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| maaritamm | o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | o/ hello everyone! | 15:02 |
| carthaca | Hi | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | welcome, ty for joining.. | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | here's our agenda: | 15:02 |
| andrebeltrami | hi | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | pretty empty agenda today, lets see if we can get through it quickly | 15:03 |
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| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
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| lseki | :-( | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | First off, I hope you're all doing okay in this terrible pandemic | 15:04 |
| vhari | o/ | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | I hope we'll get through this soon, but in light of everything that's going on | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | the foundation has decided to move on the next PTG, and make it entirely virtual | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002854.html ([OpenStack Foundation] Update on OpenDev + PTG (Vancouver)) | 15:05 |
| dviroel | :( | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | many of you may not have subscribed to that email list, and that's okay - mark's trying to gather volunteers to get this PTG going | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Virtual_PTG_Planning. | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | Please sign up if you would like to volunteer, or add any ideas to that etherpad... | 15:07 |
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| gouthamr | we'll discuss how we'd like to structure our PTG based on the outcomes from that collaboration ^ | 15:08 |
| vkmc | :( | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | i'd like your ideas for that, so please think of any suggestions and i'll bring up this as a topic in a future meeting | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | up next week is a deadline for nominations to be on the Technical Committee, or serve as manila PTL! | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html (Ussuri Release Schedule) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | please talk to me if you'd like to submit your candidacy... there're some really good ideas around project team structuring and the ptl role on the mailing list | 15:11 |
| tbarron | looks like Victoria nominated herself for TC! | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | i'm plugged in as far as reading them and nodding, or smirking :) | 15:11 |
| tbarron | back when the schedule was written .... | 15:11 |
| * tbarron ducks | 15:12 | |
| gouthamr | I liked making this change: ‘Victoria’ PTL self-nomination | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | :P | 15:12 |
| tbarron | she's going to it all! | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | anyway, we're ~3 weeks away from the feature freeze deadline, and we'll discuss reviews and pending feature merges today | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | the schedule for the next release has been up too | 15:13 |
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| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | It lacks project specific deadlines right now, i'll add them soon-ish and call your attention to it | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | that's all i had in terms of announcements | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | anyone else got any? | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | okay, moving on... | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | #topic Call for doc on Generic Driver Issues (vkmc) | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Call for doc on Generic Driver Issues (vkmc) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1867950 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1867950 in Manila "[doc][rfe] Need to call out Generic Driver limitations" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | vkmc: i volunteered you for this topic, since you brought it up to us on several occasions last week | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | the problem is well understood i think, since we have spoken about it in past irc meetings and events | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | many folks onboard to manila by looking at the reference architecture | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | as is the heading on this document: | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | #link https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/admin/generic_driver.html#known-restrictions (Generic approach for share provisioning) | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | so it may give the impression that this approach/driver is well vetted for production use | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | while we're aware of some instances of its use in public/private clouds - this driver is largely supported by the community, and as such hasn't received much love in terms of fixing all of its known issues | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | so, there was a thought that we ought to call out all the limitations in the documentation so we can inform folks better when they're trying to put manila into production | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | i'd like for us to update that bug report with things so we can compile it in one place before we add the doc | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | as vkmc suggested, it'd be a nice low-hanging-fruit bug for a new contributor | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | anything else, vkmc? | 15:22 |
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| gouthamr | okay, that's about it i think | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | #topic Tracking our work | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our work (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:23 | |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | Thank you for keeping this etherpad updated, and for those that already signed up to review stuff! | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | for the next couple of weeks, this will be our focus - try and get these patches merged | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | if you have anymore reviews to add, please do at the end of that list | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | let's get cracking on reviews, and if you don't hear back from folks that have signed up to review, please reach out to me | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:27 | |
| gouthamr | you're up vhari | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) | 15:27 |
| vhari | ty, gouthamr | 15:27 |
| vhari | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1810988 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1810988 in Manila "[tempest] migration tests often fail with ssh timeouts " [High,In progress] | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | hmm, so we have had this bug set to high for over a year now | 15:28 |
| vkmc | gouthamr, sorry, got distracted, wrt 1867950 already suggested an Outreachy applicant to take it as first contribution | 15:28 |
| vhari | floating this out for any updates | 15:28 |
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| vhari | yeah | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | vkmc: awesome! thank you | 15:28 |
| vkmc | np | 15:28 |
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| gouthamr | vhari: yeah, lets lower the priority, these tests are not failing on voting jobs so we're not consumed by it - although i suspect we didn't do anything to improve the situation | 15:29 |
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| gouthamr | yikes launchpad doesn't like me today | 15:30 |
| vhari | gouthamr, makes sense - anything else want to add here | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | vhari: i suggest lowering the priority to low, and resetting the status to "New" | 15:31 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ack, done | 15:31 |
| vhari | next up | 15:31 |
| vhari | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1660825 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660825 in Manila "Share capabilities are missing from share instance model" [Undecided,New] | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | ah, this one is an old, low hanging fruit | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | it's not really a bug if it doesn't affect anyone :) | 15:32 |
| vhari | shall we close it :) | 15:33 |
| vkmc | wishlist maybe? | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | it's utmost a wishlist - i think i was just being pedantic | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | vhari vkmc: yes, so here's teh problem - there are things we know that are in the share model that can help drivers when acting on any share | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | like the attributes mentioned on the bug | 15:34 |
| vkmc | gouthamr, so... it's an enhancement | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | but, we don't pass them down... drivers are already written in a way to call back into the database and retrieve the share type | 15:34 |
| vkmc | to have those attributes available | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | so, if we make this change, in theory they can avoid that call - however, driver authors may still not have everything they need | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | i was also thinking that we pass down the share type object as a share attribute | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | to totally avoid this call | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | extra call* - so yes, it's an enhancement | 15:35 |
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| gouthamr | to avoid an unnecessary round trip to the database from within a share driver | 15:36 |
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| vkmc | we should add this to the bug description | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | vkmc: yes, i agree | 15:36 |
| vkmc | I can do that | 15:36 |
| vkmc | I think | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | vkmc: ack, ty | 15:37 |
| vkmc | np | 15:37 |
| vhari | vkmc++ | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | vhari: we'll set this one to wishlist - thank you for bringing it up | 15:37 |
| vhari | makes sense, puts a different spin to the bug | 15:37 |
| vhari | yw gouthamr | 15:37 |
| vkmc | done | 15:37 |
| vkmc | triaged it to confirmed/wishlist | 15:38 |
| vhari | if nothing else on this one.. will call it a wrap for Bugs today | 15:38 |
| vkmc | and adding more info | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | thank you vkmc | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | thank you vhari | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:38 | |
| gouthamr | i know the morales around the globe are low at the moment, so i'm very glad you're all safe and able to make it to this meeting | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | it'll probably get much worse, but if you'd like to discuss something, this community would be glad to listen and participate... | 15:40 |
| vkmc | \o/ | 15:40 |
| vkmc | :( | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | we have hope, and that's always the thing that matters :) | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | anyone has anything else to bring up in this meeting? | 15:42 |
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| gouthamr | thank you all for joining - please review the items on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus and see you on #openstack-manila! | 15:43 |
| lseki | ty | 15:43 |
| carloss | thanks, gouthamr | 15:43 |
| vkmc | thanks! | 15:43 |
| dviroel | ty | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:43 | |
| vhari | ty gouthamr | 15:43 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 19 15:43:33 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-19-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-19-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-19-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
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