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gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 15:00:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
dviroel | o/ | 15:00 |
tbarron | hey | 15:00 |
maaritamm | o/ | 15:01 |
gouthamr | courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso vkmc amito lseki carloss | 15:01 |
lseki | o/ | 15:01 |
carloss | hi :) | 15:01 |
gouthamr | we'll be missing vhari likely today, i'll drive the bug triage | 15:01 |
vhari | o/ | 15:01 |
andrebeltrami | hi | 15:01 |
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ganso | hello | 15:02 |
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vhari | gouthamr, ack may need to step out for a bit, ty for driving the bugs on the list today | 15:02 |
gouthamr | o/ | 15:02 |
gouthamr | vhari: sure thing | 15:02 |
gouthamr | agenda for this meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
gouthamr | Thank you all for joining | 15:02 |
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gouthamr | Hope you're all doing well in these virulent times | 15:03 |
gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
gouthamr | First up, a release time line check | 15:04 |
gouthamr | Ussuri-3/Feature Freeze is in 2 weeks | 15:04 |
gouthamr | that deadline also includes Client Library Releases for Ussuri - python-manilaclient and manila-ui | 15:04 |
gouthamr | #link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html#u-ff | 15:04 |
gouthamr | So, please give features that touch CLI review preference and we'll discuss them in a bit | 15:05 |
gouthamr | Does anyone anticipate anything to slip at this stage? Or any gotchas that we must be aware of? | 15:05 |
gouthamr | hoping not :) | 15:06 |
gouthamr | Please note two new stable branch updates for manila: | 15:06 |
gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/index.html#train-manila (manila 9.1.1) | 15:06 |
gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/index.html#stein-manila (manila 8.1.1) | 15:06 |
gouthamr | These were released this morning and include important bug fixes, so users are recommended to update to these versions at the earliest | 15:07 |
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gouthamr | continuing with release themes, i added manila project deadlines to the Victoria Release schedule | 15:08 |
gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html (Victoria cycle schedule + manila deadlines) | 15:08 |
vkmc | o/ | 15:08 |
* vkmc sneaks in late | 15:08 | |
gouthamr | just as i said her name | 15:08 |
lseki | haha | 15:08 |
vkmc | hehe | 15:08 |
dviroel | lol | 15:09 |
gouthamr | please take a look at the deadlines added, and lets discuss them here - these are not set in stone | 15:09 |
gouthamr | although i allowed the patch to merge before bringing your attention to it, my bad | 15:09 |
gouthamr | so, before we move on to our next topic, i'd like to note some peculiarities with the upcoming release | 15:10 |
gouthamr | If you missed this email on the ML: | 15:10 |
gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012735.html ([all] Proposed release schedule for Victoria) | 15:10 |
* gouthamr Victoria will be a slightly shorter release cycle | 15:11 | |
gouthamr | "Part of the reason for the slightly shorter schedule was to wrap up prior to the Summit" | 15:11 |
gouthamr | It's still not as short a cycle as Ocata was | 15:12 |
gouthamr | but, i needed to adjust some deadlines | 15:12 |
gouthamr | i'm proposing that Manila's spec freeze be three weeks before M-2 | 15:13 |
gouthamr | the new driver deadline remains M-2 | 15:13 |
gouthamr | feature proposal freeze is two weeks prior to feature freeze | 15:13 |
gouthamr | gah, three weeks* | 15:14 |
gouthamr | and you've four weeks between PTG and spec freeze | 15:14 |
gouthamr | does anyone disagree with this proposal? | 15:14 |
gouthamr | you don't have to - right now, please let me know if you think this can't work for any reason and we'll bring it up in an upcoming meeting and adjust timelines | 15:15 |
gouthamr | My last announcement today is for the upcoming TC/PTL elections: | 15:16 |
gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013597.html ([all][elections][ptl][tc] Combined PTL/TC Nominations Kickoff) | 15:16 |
gouthamr | dunno if you're shy or respectful, but, no-one reached out to me to attempt to be PTL :P | 15:17 |
gouthamr | so i've a plan brewing to groom folks to step up | 15:18 |
gouthamr | if no-one self-nominates to lead us, i'll seek self-nominations for the Wallaby release, and i'll mentor you through the Victoria cycle | 15:18 |
gouthamr | *crickets* | 15:19 |
gouthamr | anywho, it gives me time to document all things that one does being a project team lead and discuss how we can make things better | 15:19 |
vkmc | we are not yet done with gouthamr's ptlness | 15:20 |
vkmc | seems so | 15:20 |
vkmc | xD | 15:20 |
carloss | vkmc ++ | 15:20 |
carloss | :D | 15:20 |
dviroel | :) | 15:20 |
gouthamr | <3 | 15:20 |
gouthamr | Any other announcements for today? | 15:20 |
dviroel | yes | 15:20 |
gouthamr | go for it, dviroel | 15:20 |
dviroel | we have new manila contributor from our side | 15:21 |
dviroel | felipe_rodrigues, welcome! | 15:21 |
lseki | 🎉 | 15:21 |
carloss | welcome, felipe_rodrigues :D | 15:21 |
felipe_rodrigues | Thank you! :) | 15:21 |
andrebeltrami | Welcome! :p | 15:21 |
vkmc | wee, welcome! | 15:21 |
gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: welcome, thank you for joining us! | 15:21 |
* gouthamr reaches for the zorilla stamp | 15:21 | |
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dviroel | hope to see lots of patches from felipe_rodrigues soon :) | 15:22 |
gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: are you sure your last name isn't viroel, because we just heard of another felipe around here and i'm always suspicious of dviroel | 15:22 |
andrebeltrami | hahaha! | 15:23 |
carloss | hehe | 15:23 |
lseki | haha | 15:23 |
gouthamr | never too young to be a zorilla | 15:23 |
* dviroel dviroel already reserved fviroel id for the future | 15:23 | |
gouthamr | dviroel: hah! smart dad | 15:24 |
felipe_rodrigues | ahahaha | 15:24 |
gouthamr | cool, thank you for making the introduction dviroel | 15:24 |
gouthamr | anything else before we move on? | 15:24 |
gouthamr | #topic Tracking our work | 15:24 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our work (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:24 | |
gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus (Ussuri cycle review focus etherpad) | 15:25 |
gouthamr | How're things looking here? lets do a rollcall | 15:25 |
gouthamr | Support query user message by timestamp | 15:25 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706438/ (manila) | 15:25 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708807/ (python-manilaclient) | 15:25 |
gouthamr | this has gotten some review attention - any reason to think we can't merge soon' | 15:26 |
gouthamr | i'll take a look at both these today, i don't see any blockers | 15:26 |
gouthamr | [Unity] Manage/unmanage share server/share/snap | 15:27 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688227/ | 15:27 |
gouthamr | a number of us have taken a look at this code, couple of issues we've tried conveying to the author/s | 15:27 |
gouthamr | their CI is currently broken, we'll discuss why in a second | 15:28 |
dviroel | ^ not sure why they don't want to enable manage/unmanage tests on their ci | 15:28 |
dviroel | should be possible just to enable them only for this change | 15:29 |
carloss | yep, dviroel... i've asked that as well in my most recent comment | 15:29 |
carloss | but didn't get any response yet | 15:29 |
gouthamr | carloss: can you -1 with your comment, might get their attention | 15:29 |
carloss | gouthamr ok | 15:29 |
gouthamr | I don't see any reviewers added for the next one | 15:30 |
gouthamr | Graduate share groups feature | 15:30 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/graduate-share-groups-feature+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:30 |
gouthamr | ah ty dviroel | 15:31 |
carloss | i've got a review from vkmc | 15:31 |
carloss | on the manila change | 15:31 |
* vkmc hides | 15:31 | |
gouthamr | cool, so it's moving fine | 15:31 |
vkmc | oh it's was a good thing | 15:31 |
vkmc | ok | 15:31 |
gouthamr | Tenant based quotas for share replicas and replica sizes | 15:31 |
vkmc | :) | 15:31 |
gouthamr | lol | 15:32 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/graduate-share-groups-feature+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:32 |
gouthamr | gah | 15:32 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/limit-share-replicas-per-share+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:32 |
gouthamr | this has been getting good reviewer attention too | 15:32 |
gouthamr | and looks good for the most part, anything to add carloss? | 15:32 |
carloss | ty for reviewing, gouthamr and ty for the review/QA, dviroel | 15:32 |
dviroel | didn't added my comments on that yet, but I'm working on QA'ing | 15:32 |
gouthamr | awesome | 15:33 |
gouthamr | Create share from snapshot in another pool or backend | 15:33 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/create-share-from-snapshot-in-another-pool-or-backend+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:33 |
gouthamr | this is the most complicated set of changes in my view for our attention | 15:33 |
gouthamr | i'd like some more eyes on it, if possible | 15:33 |
gouthamr | including the driver patch from NetApp: | 15:33 |
gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712642/ | 15:33 |
gouthamr | carthaca: your review would be valuable too ^ | 15:34 |
* carthaca bookmarks the 3 links above to do some review | 15:34 | |
* gouthamr notes how people are reading his mind today | 15:34 | |
gouthamr | thank you carthaca | 15:35 |
dviroel | andrebeltrami is working on QA NetApp driver also | 15:35 |
dviroel | so please andrebeltrami, post your comments there too | 15:35 |
andrebeltrami | Sure! | 15:35 |
gouthamr | alright, the rest of the reviews on that etherpad aren't really features, and we have some time to get to them | 15:35 |
gouthamr | please correct me if that's not the case | 15:36 |
dviroel | agree | 15:36 |
gouthamr | cool, anything else about these reviews before we move on? | 15:37 |
gouthamr | #topic NetApp Share Server NFS modify implementation (carthaca) | 15:37 |
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gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-netapp-share-server-nfs-modify (NetApp Share Server NFS modify proposal etherpad) | 15:37 |
gouthamr | carthaca: you're up | 15:37 |
carthaca | Hi, thanks | 15:37 |
carthaca | I hope it is okay I just put this very netapp specific topic on the agenda. | 15:37 |
carthaca | But I wanted to collect feedback before coding something that I would never be able to contribute back and had to maintain in my fork forever ^^ | 15:37 |
carthaca | Please have a look at my etherpad and comment, ask, discuss ;) | 15:38 |
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vkmc | josecastroleon, o/ | 15:38 |
josecastroleon | hi | 15:38 |
gouthamr | carthaca: is this entirely netapp specific? or did you intend on generalizing this solution? | 15:39 |
gouthamr | i've a couple of questions | 15:39 |
gouthamr | "give my customers the possibiility to select certain nfs vserver settings" | 15:40 |
carthaca | well not all of that options are netapp specific, but I'm not that familiar with the other back ends | 15:41 |
gouthamr | carthaca: that isn't entirely congruent with the way share servers are designed | 15:41 |
gouthamr | carthaca: users have no control over them | 15:41 |
carthaca | currently only via security services | 15:42 |
gouthamr | carthaca: yes, those and share networks are the only aspects they can view/manipulate about their share servers | 15:42 |
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gouthamr | carthaca: and these server side settings may not make sense to share networks, security services or individual shares (as you noted) | 15:43 |
gouthamr | carthaca: but, the netapp driver already handles something like this today | 15:43 |
gouthamr | i forget how, but, nfs versions can be configured | 15:44 |
carthaca | yes, you can set this in the config | 15:44 |
gouthamr | ah, so its not exactly defined per tenant then | 15:45 |
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carthaca | but that would mean I would have to run multiple manila-share services for the same backend or something | 15:45 |
gouthamr | true | 15:45 |
gouthamr | hmmm, at the outset, it feels like you could define scoped share type extra-specs and set these options when the first share is created | 15:46 |
dviroel | this looks like qos, but for share-servers | 15:46 |
dviroel | could work in the same way, i guess | 15:47 |
gouthamr | but, when the share type extra-specs are manipulated and the next share is created, the driver can choose to either manipulate the existing share server or create a new one | 15:47 |
gouthamr | dviroel: true, or any other scoped extra-spec that we'd plumb directly to the driver | 15:48 |
gouthamr | carthaca: i'm not against generalizing this solution, but we'll probably need to discuss the possibilities/merits in a longer meeting | 15:49 |
dviroel | might need a common capability also, to identify backends that support it and have it enabled | 15:49 |
dviroel | the rest is up to the driver | 15:50 |
gouthamr | i recall a similar request to determine root squash and all squash nfs options | 15:51 |
gouthamr | i can dig up that discussion from a past PTG to see what ideas were considered, a proposal was not made | 15:52 |
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carthaca | sounds related, I think this option is called ignore-nt-acl-for-root at netapp nfs modify | 15:53 |
gouthamr | ack | 15:54 |
gouthamr | cool, i think we've some AIs on this carthaca - we'll see what was discussed earlier wrt share server side customizations, please explore if scoped extra-specs can be considered | 15:54 |
gouthamr | if you're planning on a generalized implementation, a specification would be required | 15:54 |
carthaca | cool, thanks for the feedback | 15:55 |
gouthamr | if it just pertains to netapp, a spec is not necessary, just file a bp for project tracking | 15:55 |
gouthamr | cool, we only have 5 minutes | 15:55 |
* gouthamr looks into the bug etherpad | 15:55 | |
gouthamr | dviroel: we might have to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1868586 outside of this meeting | 15:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1868586 in Manila "tempest complains 'Share network xxx could not be found.' " [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
gouthamr | i want to skip bug triage today and give ~3 mins to open discussion | 15:56 |
gouthamr | taht okay? | 15:56 |
vkmc | +1 | 15:56 |
gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:56 |
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dviroel | gouthamr: ok | 15:56 |
priteau | gouthamr: you can take a bit more time if you need | 15:56 |
gouthamr | ah, thank you priteau - you're kind :) we'll do the triage on our channel | 15:57 |
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gouthamr | anyone has anything to discuss? | 15:57 |
josecastroleon | yes | 15:57 |
gouthamr | josecastroleon: o/ | 15:57 |
josecastroleon | we have just had a nasty behavior on our manila setup | 15:58 |
josecastroleon | we have 4 different cephfs backends behind | 15:59 |
josecastroleon | each of them mapped to a share type | 15:59 |
josecastroleon | so scheduling should be easy right? | 15:59 |
josecastroleon | we were seeing a continuous increase of scheduling time | 15:59 |
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gouthamr | josecastroleon: oh, weird - do you mind us moving over to #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
josecastroleon | sure | 16:00 |
gouthamr | josecastroleon: thank you, lets continue there | 16:00 |
gouthamr | thanks all for attending, we'll discuss this scheduling issue on #openstack-manila, please join us there if you can | 16:01 |
dviroel | thanks! | 16:01 |
gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:01 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 16:01:10 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-26-15.00.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-26-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-03-26-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 16:01:25 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 16:01 |
priteau | #topic Roll call | 16:01 |
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priteau | Hi jakecoll | 16:01 |
jakecoll | Hi priteau | 16:02 |
priteau | #topic Ussuri priorities | 16:02 |
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priteau | One of the priorities for Ussuri is to implement network reservation | 16:02 |
priteau | Thank you jakecoll for resubmitting an updated patch | 16:03 |
priteau | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668749/ | 16:03 |
priteau | I've started to review but need more time on it to complete | 16:03 |
jakecoll | No problem. I can update when you are done. | 16:04 |
priteau | I have two pieces of advice when updating patches | 16:04 |
priteau | 1) use grep (or ripgrep/ack/ag) to find code that might be relevant to comments | 16:04 |
priteau | for example I pointed out the vfc code a few days ago but noticed today that there are still a couple of vfc references in the latest one | 16:05 |
priteau | and 2) check back to the spec to make sure it matches the API we agreed on | 16:05 |
jakecoll | Yea, I see the vfc code in the models now. I'll fix that. | 16:06 |
jakecoll | Are the differences in the spec API based on the allocations patch I added? | 16:07 |
priteau | No, I think we just made some minor changes to the format | 16:07 |
priteau | Like, using segmentation_id instead of segment_id | 16:07 |
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jakecoll | oh, I see | 16:09 |
priteau | It would be really good if we could have a tempest scenario for this as well, but do you feel like you could write one? | 16:09 |
jakecoll | I've never written one | 16:10 |
jakecoll | Where are tempest scenarios for blazar? | 16:10 |
priteau | https://opendev.org/openstack/blazar-tempest-plugin/src/branch/master/blazar_tempest_plugin/tests/scenario | 16:10 |
priteau | Maybe if I can start a template for a new one with the right config, you could extend with some tests | 16:11 |
priteau | It will need a custom config to enable the network plugin, plus make sure the neutron config is compatible | 16:12 |
jakecoll | I could potentially. I get a lot of pushback from Kate these days on contributing upstream because of the time commitment. | 16:12 |
jakecoll | What is tempest? | 16:13 |
priteau | Testing framework for OpenStack | 16:13 |
priteau | https://docs.openstack.org/tempest/latest/ | 16:13 |
jakecoll | It's an integration tool. Maybe this is something we can add to our CI/CD pipeline on Chameleon in the future. | 16:14 |
priteau | Then ignore it for now, I'll ping you if I get something started where you could contribute a few more tests | 16:14 |
jakecoll | ok, thanks | 16:15 |
priteau | Yes, you can run it against an OpenStack cloud. I would advise using Rally to manage it | 16:15 |
priteau | Rally: https://docs.openstack.org/rally/latest/ | 16:15 |
priteau | Though it might not play well with Chameleon because it wouldn't know that it needs reservations to launch instances | 16:15 |
priteau | Anyway, that's getting off topic | 16:16 |
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priteau | Anything else that you would like to highlight? I know there are specs from Jason that I need to finish reviewing | 16:16 |
jakecoll | I pushed a bug fix recently | 16:16 |
priteau | A very good one indeed | 16:17 |
priteau | Did you see tetsuro's comment? | 16:17 |
priteau | > Is it difficult to reproduce the bug in the unit tests by mocking the exception? | 16:17 |
jakecoll | Yes | 16:18 |
priteau | Do you think that's feasible? | 16:19 |
jakecoll | I imagine you could throw an exception with the unit test and then see if it fails. However, I haven't had time to play around with it. Not sure how the tests handle looping calls. | 16:19 |
jakecoll | probs not actually | 16:20 |
jakecoll | def test_start(self): # NOTE(starodubcevna): it's useless to test start() now, but may be in # future it become useful pass | 16:21 |
jakecoll | We don't even test the start function where the fix is implemented. | 16:21 |
priteau | That is some old code! | 16:22 |
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priteau | OK, more thought needed | 16:23 |
priteau | Have you deployed the fix to prod? | 16:24 |
jakecoll | Yep, we haven't run into the issue since | 16:24 |
priteau | An alternative would be to make sure the exception is handled correctly | 16:26 |
priteau | Did you figure out where the exception came from exactly? | 16:26 |
jakecoll | It was a DBConnectionError | 16:29 |
priteau | So something that could be thrown by any db code really | 16:31 |
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priteau | OK, thanks for the patch, I will check again with Tetsuro if he can allow it without tests | 16:31 |
priteau | Anything else? | 16:31 |
jakecoll | Nope. Did you get a chance to review Jason's specs? | 16:32 |
jakecoll | He's back in office tomorrow | 16:32 |
jakecoll | or... online | 16:32 |
priteau | I reviewed one of them, left some comments | 16:33 |
priteau | Still need to look at the other one | 16:33 |
priteau | Good to know that he's back soon | 16:33 |
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jakecoll | I believe that is all on my end | 16:34 |
priteau | Same for me. Thanks for your time! | 16:35 |
jakecoll | :+1: | 16:35 |
jakecoll | thanks for the comments | 16:35 |
priteau | Bye | 16:35 |
priteau | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 16:35:51 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-03-26-16.01.html | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-03-26-16.01.txt | 16:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-03-26-16.01.log.html | 16:35 |
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