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gagehugo | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 15:00:42 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
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stevthedev | o/ | 15:00 |
gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda | 15:00 |
alevineprogmatic | o/ | 15:00 |
lamt | \o | 15:01 |
alevineprogmatic | Hi all, where do I add a question I wanted to ask? In the agenda there is only 2020-04-28 | 15:01 |
gagehugo | sorry I failed to update for today | 15:02 |
alevineprogmatic | I can ask here, no problem | 15:02 |
gagehugo | updated | 15:02 |
gagehugo | and here is good too | 15:02 |
alevineprogmatic | So the question I have is in regard to the integration of Tungsten Fabric with OpenStack Helm. Namely, the review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663390/ | 15:03 |
alevineprogmatic | Basically, what is required to get integrated and approved exactly? We have our own all-in-one single node deployment which we could easily add to any CI. | 15:04 |
gagehugo | let me check portdirect's comments | 15:05 |
gagehugo | I believe he just wants some form of testing done on the CI to verify that it works | 15:08 |
gagehugo | in zuul I mean | 15:08 |
alevineprogmatic | I agree with that. The question is what exactly is required from us | 15:08 |
alevineprogmatic | What kind of testing would suffice and how to integrate our stuff? | 15:09 |
gagehugo | Adding an experimental check in zuul would be a good first step imo | 15:10 |
alevineprogmatic | Yes, but what would that check? And how to add it? | 15:11 |
gagehugo | It would verify that the changes in that ps work as intended from an upstream perspective, and to add a check job involves modifying the files under zuul.d/ to add it, where the other checks/jobs live | 15:13 |
gagehugo | I believe portdirect also mentioned some documentation on the TF backend as well would be good | 15:14 |
alevineprogmatic | Do we have to deploy Tungsten Fabric to check that? In that case it would take some time and a machine (VM) with 32GB memory. | 15:14 |
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gagehugo | In some way preferably to verify that it works as intended | 15:15 |
alevineprogmatic | There is different documentation but I don't think there is any specific for Helm deployment so the question is exactly what kind of documentation is required? For what audience? With what kind of details? About what? Deployment? Production? Development? What is the acceptable bare minimum? | 15:16 |
alevineprogmatic | This I understand but as I said, is there a 32GB VM available with Centos 7.x to run the deployment? | 15:16 |
alevineprogmatic | And it deploys Helm OpenStack as well so it takes quite a time. What is the acceptable time? | 15:17 |
gagehugo | OSH has documentation, if there is existing docs somewhere at the very least linking to that would be acceptable. | 15:19 |
alevineprogmatic | Ok. Got it about the documentation. What about the rest of the questions? | 15:19 |
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gagehugo | We would need to check with infra about that | 15:19 |
gagehugo | TF has a hard requirement for centos and 32gb ram? | 15:20 |
alevineprogmatic | I see in zuul.d jobs for deployment of various charts but Tungsten Fabric is a neutron/nova/heat networking backend so we'll have to deploy everything, I guess? And also we'd have to pull external git repos for TF and devtools for deployment and the product | 15:20 |
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alevineprogmatic | Ubuntu is also ok, but less than 24GB is risky | 15:20 |
alevineprogmatic | But Ubuntu will work longer because kernel driver gets built on this platform which takes time | 15:21 |
gagehugo | hmm ok | 15:22 |
alevineprogmatic | So as you see I have whole lot of questions. I tried to contact portdirect in slack but he didn't respond. In order to resolve this quick enough is there any other way to communicate with some of you guys who would help resolving all of these as we go? | 15:22 |
alevineprogmatic | Ideally I show what we have and you tell us how to best integrate it | 15:23 |
gagehugo | I don't think a lot of us are active in the k8s slack, usually we respond to IRC pings in the openstack-helm channel | 15:23 |
alevineprogmatic | I came to openstack-helm 40 minutes ago - it's office hours I guess - nobody responded | 15:23 |
gagehugo | office hours aren't really a thing anymore afaik | 15:24 |
gagehugo | they might be stuck in a meeting right now | 15:24 |
alevineprogmatic | Ok when can I ry?t | 15:24 |
alevineprogmatic | "try" | 15:24 |
gagehugo | I can ping him later | 15:24 |
alevineprogmatic | And what to do about "We would need to check with infra about that"? | 15:24 |
gagehugo | I'm not sure what image flavors are available atm | 15:25 |
alevineprogmatic | Is there any concept of "unit tests" for helm charts? We've got several small additions to some of them | 15:25 |
lamt | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/labels are all the nodes infra has | 15:25 |
gagehugo | ^ | 15:26 |
alevineprogmatic | That'll do. | 15:26 |
alevineprogmatic | So what about "unit" tests? | 15:26 |
gagehugo | Most charts have either rally testing scripts or manual verification scripts to check if things are working as intended | 15:27 |
gagehugo | lemme find an example | 15:27 |
alevineprogmatic | sure | 15:28 |
gagehugo | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/tools/deployment/developer/common/900-use-it.sh is what the compute gates run to test | 15:28 |
alevineprogmatic | And how would it work for pulling external gits for that? | 15:28 |
alevineprogmatic | The above link has smoke test for checking openstack deployment. That returns us to the questions - should we deploy whole TF, how do we pull external gits, what about long time for checking, etc | 15:30 |
alevineprogmatic | A | 15:30 |
gagehugo | you can pull in dockerhub images in the check | 15:30 |
alevineprogmatic | Any test which requires correctly deployed openstack is a long story | 15:30 |
alevineprogmatic | dockerhub images of what? | 15:30 |
alevineprogmatic | Of openstack containers? | 15:31 |
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alevineprogmatic | That's exactly what we do, yes, but we have tf-devstack in github which does that and that takes quite the time. Up to 1 hour | 15:31 |
gagehugo | 1 hour to deploy? | 15:31 |
gagehugo | devstack takes quite a long time to run in general though | 15:32 |
alevineprogmatic | Maybe less. But how much time does Openstack helm deploys as a whole? More than 30 mins | 15:32 |
alevineprogmatic | Add TF to it and you'll get somewhere between 30-60 mins. | 15:32 |
gagehugo | You can specify the timeout to accommodate that in zuul | 15:33 |
gagehugo | the compute check jobs take ~1 hour | 15:33 |
gagehugo | and that's all the openstack services sans cinder | 15:33 |
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alevineprogmatic | So are we ok to add 1 hour more to it? | 15:34 |
alevineprogmatic | Or rather in parallel | 15:34 |
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gagehugo | I would add it and see what it runs | 15:34 |
gagehugo | time* | 15:35 |
roman_g | alevineprogmatic: there are 32GB nodes avaialble for tests in OpenDev Zuul CI. However, if possible, try to use several smaller VMs, not all-in-one installation. | 15:36 |
alevineprogmatic | So let me sum it up: you suggest to add to zuul.d a job which would git clone our tf-devstack, then invoke it to run deployment of Openstack Helm with TF and then to somehow verify that it's deployed, am I right? | 15:36 |
gagehugo | no | 15:37 |
gagehugo | not devstack | 15:37 |
alevineprogmatic | roman_g, sorry, won't help much. | 15:37 |
alevineprogmatic | Ok, then simply helm chart install? We'll have to add some overrides so we'll copy our code. tf-devstack is not Openstack's devstack - it's a part of our test suite. | 15:38 |
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gagehugo | ah ok | 15:39 |
gagehugo | I see now, looking at the repo | 15:39 |
alevineprogmatic | Ok. I got you. Now we have something to start with. I guess next review should be for zuul.d | 15:40 |
alevineprogmatic | Thank you. | 15:40 |
gagehugo | yes, add the appropriate overrides | 15:41 |
gagehugo | alevineprogmatic: anything else you want to discuss? | 15:41 |
alevineprogmatic | That's all for now. Thanks | 15:41 |
gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:43 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:43 | |
gagehugo | Does anyone else have anything they want to discuss? | 15:43 |
gagehugo | thanks everyone, have a good rest of the week | 15:47 |
gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 15:47:26 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-05-15.00.html | 15:47 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-05-15.00.txt | 15:47 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-05-15.00.log.html | 15:47 |
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knikolla | #startmeeting keystone | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 17:00:04 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 17:00 |
cmurphy | o/ | 17:00 |
knikolla | o/ | 17:00 |
lbragstad_ | o/ | 17:00 |
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knikolla | i almost lost track of time | 17:00 |
gagehugo | o/ | 17:00 |
vishakha | o/ | 17:01 |
knikolla | how's everyone? | 17:01 |
bnemec | o/ | 17:01 |
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cmurphy | pretty good, it's going to be 80F here this weekend | 17:02 |
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* lbragstad barely knows what day it is | 17:02 | |
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gagehugo | only ~60F here this weekend :( | 17:03 |
knikolla | it's been pretty gorgeous here too for the past few days. | 17:03 |
knikolla | definitely makes working harder. | 17:03 |
knikolla | #topic Announcements | 17:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:04 | |
knikolla | This week is the deadline to request slots for the PTG | 17:05 |
knikolla | End of Day I will go ahead and reserve slots according to the poll | 17:05 |
knikolla | It seems like Thu-Fri is what worked best for us | 17:05 |
knikolla | And those days were pretty open in the ethercal as well, so it should not be a problem | 17:05 |
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cmurphy | sounds good | 17:06 |
knikolla | How many hours do you think we need? | 17:07 |
gagehugo | ~3ish/day? | 17:08 |
knikolla | Sounds about right. There isn't a lot of items on the agenda. | 17:10 |
cmurphy | the schedule is in 4 hour blocks so maybe one 4 hour block with a break in the middle, for two days? | 17:11 |
gagehugo | Do we want to do separate times per day to maximize availability | 17:12 |
gagehugo | as well? | 17:12 |
knikolla | the same time on both days were the only times that had everyone voting yes on the poll | 17:13 |
gagehugo | ah ok | 17:14 |
knikolla | We can advertise that if people need to talk to the team, they can show up on IRC and we can jump on a conference call or smth | 17:17 |
knikolla | outside of those times | 17:17 |
cmurphy | ++ | 17:17 |
knikolla | okay, i filled the ethercal with 1PM-5PM UTC on Thu and Fri. | 17:19 |
vishakha | +1 | 17:20 |
knikolla | alright, in the coming weeks i'll polish up the agenda, so make sure to add items before i start putting them into schedules | 17:21 |
knikolla | #topic Review Requests | 17:22 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review Requests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:22 | |
vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:update-onboarding | 17:22 |
vishakha | These are the patches for updates in the onboarding documents | 17:23 |
vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/725034/ Remove func not in use in test_service_provider | 17:23 |
cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/632213 | 17:25 |
cmurphy | i cleaned up and rechecked ayoung's patch ^ | 17:25 |
knikolla | cmurphy: wonder why that does the html by hand rather than using a flask template | 17:27 |
cmurphy | knikolla: hmm i didn't know there was such a thing, feel free to suggest a better way on the review | 17:28 |
knikolla | i'll have a look at it | 17:29 |
knikolla | #topic Bug Duty | 17:31 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bug Duty (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:31 | |
knikolla | I was on bug duty | 17:32 |
knikolla | I don't think I saw any new bugs opened | 17:32 |
knikolla | Next person on bug duty is vishakha | 17:33 |
knikolla | Anyone wants to take after? | 17:33 |
vishakha | Thanks knikolla for the reminder | 17:33 |
knikolla | alright, i'll take it again then | 17:36 |
knikolla | #topic Open Floor | 17:36 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:37 | |
alistarle | Hi, I implement a first POC of unified limit for glance, based on what was done for nova, and I have some question before submiting the code and the spec to the glance team | 17:37 |
alistarle | First of all, It is mandatory to specify an endpoint_id in oslo_limit configuration part otherwise the enforcer won’t work, I find that surprising to hardcode an ID in glance_api.conf (https://github.com/openstack/oslo.limit/blob/master/oslo_limit/limit.py#L178), is it expected ? | 17:38 |
cmurphy | alistarle: we discussed using service name + region instead of endpoint id but haven't implemented it yet, background on that discussion is here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666085/ | 17:40 |
cmurphy | we'd welcome that contribution | 17:41 |
alistarle | Ok great, I will work on that then in addition to my glance patch | 17:41 |
alistarle | service name + region seems logical to me | 17:42 |
alistarle | another question is who is in charge to setup the initial registered limit ? The service itself ? I see nothing about that in keystone spec or in the nova implementation poc : https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/unified-limits-nova+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 17:42 |
alistarle | currently I have to setup it manually at the same time that creating the service user, but if I omit that, enforcer are failing too | 17:43 |
cmurphy | alistarle: in the nova case they were discussing using a keystone-manage/nova-manage command to export limits from nova and import them into keystone, that's not been implemented yet on the keystone side and i'm not sure where they are on the nova side, so for the moment the operator has to do it manually | 17:44 |
alistarle | Hmmm ok, so it must be included at the deployer level maybe, like tripleO/kolla-ansible..., not inside projects right ? | 17:45 |
alistarle | It means that using by default unified limits are complicated, because it require some orchestration in the deployer | 17:46 |
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cmurphy | i think yes that was where we landed at least to start with, the projects would have to express the registered limits they need and have the operator or deployment tool run a command to register them | 17:48 |
cmurphy | you might consult johnthetubaguy or lbragstad who might remember better than me | 17:48 |
alistarle | Ok thanks I will check with them | 17:48 |
lbragstad | cmurphy that sounds right | 17:48 |
alistarle | And another question is I understand that unified limit allow customer to consult and ops to set a limit, but what about consulting the current usage ? In nova I understand they will use the placement API for that but in glance there is nothing about limit yet, so should we add new API path only for consulting quota usage ? | 17:49 |
alistarle | Adding a new API path to consult your usage and not the limit seems weird, and making a proxy from glance to keystone to query the limits seems even worse | 17:50 |
cmurphy | alistarle: exposing usage will be up to the service, not keystone | 17:51 |
cmurphy | i thought the placement API was going to be used by more services than just nova, if glance used it wouldn't that take care of itself? | 17:52 |
alistarle | Hmmm maybe you're right, I didn't think about that, I will deep dive that way | 17:53 |
alistarle | And my last question about something I found, enforcing and creating unified limits require the « system_scope = all » to work, does it mean the glance service account must have this system_scope ? | 17:53 |
alistarle | by default, service account does "only" have the admin role on the service project | 17:54 |
cmurphy | creating the limits requires system scope but querying the limits should be doable by anyone regardless of scope | 17:56 |
alistarle | In fact we need to add a system_scope role to the glance user to be able to list other projects limit | 17:57 |
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alistarle | otherwise, if in oslo_limit you specify a project to log in, you won't be able to see others project limit, they will only have the registered limit | 17:58 |
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cmurphy | ah that is true, you will have to give the service user at least the 'reader' role on the system scope | 17:59 |
knikolla | we can continue this at #openstack-keystone | 18:00 |
cmurphy | alistarle: feel free to bring us any other questions any time in #openstack-keystone | 18:00 |
knikolla | thanks everyone | 18:00 |
knikolla | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 18:00:21 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-05-17.00.html | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-05-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-05-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
vishakha | thanks knikolla | 18:00 |
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