Thursday, 2020-05-14

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 14 15:00:54 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
tbarronhi15:01
dviroelo/15:01
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andrebeltramio/15:01
carlosshi15:01
vkmco/15:01
danielarthurto/15:01
lsekio/15:02
carthacahi15:02
gouthamr courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso amito15:02
gouthamro/ hello everyone, thank you for joining..15:02
gouthamrhere's our agenda for this meeting15:02
gouthamr#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
amitoHey o/15:03
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:03
gouthamrIt's no surprise, we've had yet another smooth on-time release!15:03
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gouthamrThank you all for your efforts in getting Ussuri out of the gate; now it's officially the last supported release from the community15:04
tbarrongouthamr++ you make  it go smoothly15:05
vkmcgouthamr++15:05
gouthamr:)15:05
gouthamrTo that effect, there's a virtual celebration gathering that's planned15:05
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014781.html (Ussuri Virtual Celebration)15:05
gouthamrplease do join and represent this community :)15:06
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gouthamrWe had a couple of community meetings yesterday15:07
gouthamrwhere a bunch of contributors provided the highlights of the release15:07
gouthamryou can watch them here15:07
gouthamr#link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKqaoAnDyfgpYADSiOfIVwgKb5zbL0GJE15:07
gouthamrcool... and next, a reminder that the Victoria PTG is a couple of weeks away15:08
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gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014567.html (ML Post with slots)15:09
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/vancouver-ptg-manila-planning (Victoria PTG Planning Etherpad)15:09
gouthamr#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy (PTG Slot Signup sheet)15:09
gouthamrI see new topics every time i look at that etherpad, i'll give it another week before discussing time slots :)15:09
gouthamrthat's all i had in terms of announcements today, anyone else got any?15:10
gouthamr#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/15:10
gouthamr^ this website's been updated with the schedule and registration details15:10
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gouthamrmoving on...15:11
gouthamr#topic Generic driver test consolidation15:11
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gouthamrso, as you're aware, we're working on converting all our test jobs to zuulv315:12
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gouthamrnative zuulv3 format*15:12
gouthamrand we discussed some test job consolidation last week15:12
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/726291/ (Generic Driver test job consolidation)15:12
gouthamri wrote a ballad for a commit message, i apologize, but, i wanted to explain all the permutations of testing we had, and what we'll lose wrt this consolidation15:13
gouthamri'd be happy to have feedback to improve that change..15:14
gouthamrthe tl;dr remains that we're testing the generic driver in more combinations than we need; and we've been neglecting the health of these jobs since they fail so often due to reasons not entirely in the manila driver15:15
vkmcgouthamr, not sure if there is something already, but I was thinking about submitting some docs on that15:15
vkmcif you are not up to it15:16
vkmcit would be nice to have this in the contributors guide or something like that15:16
gouthamrvkmc: what kind of docs are you thinking?15:16
vkmcI think we have something about ci... but for third party ci15:16
gouthamroh, a doc about adding/modifying a CI job?15:16
vkmcjust leaving some record on the decisions we take and why for the ci jobs so contributors know what we are testing and where15:16
vkmcadding/modifying ci jobs, I think we have something on that15:17
vkmcat least for third party ci15:17
gouthamrack15:18
vkmcI can push a draft for review and we can discuss there, sounds good?15:18
gouthamrvkmc++15:18
vkmccool :)15:18
gouthamrthank you, vkmc.. so, a bit more about this consolidated job... it runs more tests than any of the individual jobs did15:19
gouthamrand catches an old bug that we had an open change for...15:19
gouthamr#link Closes-Bug: 170358115:20
openstackbug 1703581 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "[Generic driver] CIFS extension failing because of volume in use thus unable to unmount" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703581 - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:20
gouthamrgah15:20
gouthamroh15:20
gouthamrgood bot15:20
gouthamr^ currently assigned to me, but was a patch from Jan Vondra...15:21
gouthamrif we revive that change, i think we'll fix that issue; i'll follow up: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/498445/15:21
gouthamrany concerns/questions?15:22
gouthamrtaking that for a no.. :)15:22
gouthamrplease review that change when possible...15:23
gouthamr#topic Reviews needing attention15:23
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gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus15:24
gouthamrI don't see any new notes, i presume changes there are ack'ed..15:24
gouthamris there anything that we need to talk about?15:24
carthacaI would like to have a second reviewer for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/725791/15:26
dviroelWe are trying to contact the contributor on this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703025/15:26
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gouthamrcarthaca: ack.. ty for bringing that up..15:27
dviroeladded carthaca change to the etherpad15:27
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carthacadviroel: thanks15:28
gouthamrdviroel: great... if the owner of 703025 doen't respond we might have to push a patch with the changes ourselves..15:28
gouthamrdviroel: it's possible they're not working at the moment, or things are getting lost in translation.. thanks for being patient :)15:29
gouthamrany other changes to discuss?15:29
gouthamrelse let's move on to the next section15:30
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:30
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gouthamrvhari has a conflict today15:31
gouthamrlets look at the etherpad that she's updated15:31
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)15:31
gouthamrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187847715:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1878477 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Devstack plugin sets service instance parameters for all drivers" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc)15:31
gouthamrthis one is triaged, needs a milestone15:32
vkmcoh hi, I just triaged that one15:32
gouthamrthanks vkmc - i'll assign it to victoria-115:32
vkmc++15:32
tbarronhaha15:32
* gouthamr it's gonna be this, all release15:32
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187824415:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1878244 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "[Doc] Create share from snapshot in another pool or backend" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:32
vkmcgouthamr, count on that xD15:33
gouthamrhaha! thanks for opening a doc bug just like the bot would do dviroel15:33
dviroelwhat went wrong?15:33
gouthamrwonder what happened to the bot15:33
dviroelDOCImpact vs DocImpact?15:34
carloss^ may be this15:34
gouthamrperhaps, we can check the system-config repo to confirm15:35
gouthamrthis one is a medium impact, can i target to Victoria-1?15:35
dviroelWill upload a patch soon, didn't see too much to add since API Ref was already upload together with the main change15:36
dviroelgouthamr: yes15:36
gouthamrthanks15:36
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187761315:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1877613 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Share servers cannot be deleted with the generic driver" [Undecided,New]15:36
gouthamrhmmm, "If a share server is deleted in nova"15:37
vkmcqueens15:37
dviroelalpha23 didn't like your template15:37
gouthamrlol, yes..15:38
gouthamrbut i'm thinking there are a few issues here15:38
gouthamrone, they're expecting the driver to realize that the share server is gone, and provision a new one for new shares15:38
gouthamrthat's a reasonable ask...15:38
gouthamrbut, i think for their current situation, they can force-delete the share and share-server from manila15:39
gouthamri don't know if we have a force delete API for share servers15:40
gouthamrwe certainly can delete the shares.. although, we could be leaving behind the underlying cinder volumes15:40
gouthamrthis situation isn't normal - i.e., regular users can't remove their share servers from nova - they'd have to assume the manila service role, or be admin15:41
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gouthamri'll update this bug with these thoughts... we'll also remind them that this driver is used for testing only, and we could use help to get it working15:43
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187741015:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1877410 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "[RFE] Container driver uses deprecated brctl commands " [Low,New] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:43
gouthamroh, what's missing here15:44
gouthamrnothing, it's triaged..15:44
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187706315:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1877063 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp driver scheduler-stats missing max_over_subscription_ratio" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)15:44
gouthamrcouple of labels missing, what's your impact assessment dviroel/carthaca?15:44
dviroelgouthamr: seems to be low, don't know what carthaca thinks about it15:46
gouthamrperhaps, low? it doesn't break the scheduler's oversubscription calculations..15:46
carthacaI'm fine with low15:46
gouthamrthanks15:46
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187682715:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1876827 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Generic driver no-share-server setup fails on the CI" [Undecided,New]15:46
gouthamr^ i'm tearing down this job15:47
gouthamri didn't get an opportunity to debug what's going on though, it's not got anything to do with the generic driver15:47
gouthamrthe devstack plugin creates two nova VMs, and both of them remain unreachable for 5 minutes...15:48
gouthamrit's unusual that it should happen, perhaps there's something broken that we ought to investigate and fix or let nova/neutron folks know...15:49
gouthamrfor now though, i'd propose wishlisting this bug15:49
tbarronwe can't chase every openstack integration issue at tip of master15:50
gouthamr+115:50
gouthamrif someone intends to maintain testing the generic driver in a DHSS=False fashion, they can revive this job easily and fix it up..15:50
tbarronmanila isn't the osp qe integration team15:50
gouthamrany concerns wishlisting this one?15:51
gouthamrnope?15:51
gouthamrokay last one !15:51
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/183917515:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1839175 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "ganesha: the export IDs are not reused" [Medium,New]15:51
tbarronlegit issue, though not reported by customers15:52
gouthamrhmmm, so a cloud with 64535 shares will hit this15:52
gouthamrthat's an aweful lot of shares, but, i suppose it's not unviable..15:53
* tbarron looks forward to having to deal with the problem15:53
tbarroni'm being a bit flip, we should try to schedule work on this15:54
gouthamrhold on one minute15:54
gouthamrdoesn't the cephfs driver create one export per share per client?15:54
gouthamrso this could occur with far lesser shares, tbarron?15:54
tbarronyeah so we could hit this sooner15:54
tbarronbut still not a problem from the field yet15:54
gouthamrack15:55
tbarronstill lookiing forward to that scale15:55
gouthamrokay, it's been triaged as a Medium, do we have a volunteer?15:55
tbarronwe should make a test wher the cross product of clients and shares gets us to there15:55
tbarrongouthamr: we should likely have a RH person ( can be me if you want) but that doesn't mean it's top priority in backlog yet15:56
gouthamrokay..15:56
tbarronnon-RH people are of course welcome to work it!15:56
gouthamrlets discuss it more outside of this meeting then15:56
gouthamrthat's a wrap on the bugs15:57
gouthamrvhari would be proud, we got 'em all15:57
tbarronvhari++ gouthamr++15:57
gouthamronly fixes are left, but small celebrations :)15:57
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:57
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gouthamrhow does everyone feel about the time slots we picked for the PTG?15:58
vkmcpokemons?15:58
vkmcoh bugs15:58
vkmcsorry15:58
tbarronheh15:58
carlosshaha15:58
vkmc++ for slots15:58
carloss++ for slots :)15:58
tbarrongouthamr: thanks for doing the work on that15:59
dviroeli'm ok with the slots also15:59
gouthamrcool, thank you for the feedback16:00
gouthamrwe're at the hour16:00
gouthamrthanks all for joining, hope you continue to remain safe and healthy!16:00
gouthamr#endmeeting16:00
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