Wednesday, 2020-06-10

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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 10 14:00:07 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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whoami-rajatHi14:00
rajinirhi14:00
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toskyhi14:00
lsekihi14:00
LiangFanghi14:01
e0nehi14:01
jungleboyjo/14:01
eharneyhi14:01
jungleboyj(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻14:01
rosmaitaHello everyone! good turnout14:01
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings14:01
smcginniso/14:02
* lseki why is jungleboyj so mad?14:02
rosmaitai just got back from the eye doctor, had my eyes dilated, and between the LEDs in my keyboard and the computer screen, i am practically blinded by all the light14:02
smcginnisHe has anger issues. :D14:02
rosmaitaso my typing will be slower than usual14:02
rosmaitabut luckily it's a light agenda14:02
smcginnisHar har14:03
jungleboyj¯\(◉‿◉)/¯14:03
rosmaita#topic updates - PTG summary available14:03
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rosmaitajungleboyj: thanks, i needed that14:03
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jungleboyjYou are welcome.  Any time.14:03
rosmaitawell, i had it open somewhere14:03
rosmaita#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary14:03
rosmaitaok, so for anyone who missed the excitement last week, there are recordings you can watch!14:04
rosmaitaalso brief summaries14:04
rosmaitaanyone who led a session, please read & clarify my description of what i thought we discussed14:04
whoami-rajatmy topics are well covered rosmaita++14:05
rosmaitagreat, ty14:05
rosmaita#topic updates -victoria schedule14:05
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rosmaitathe cinder specific events have merged14:05
rosmaita#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html14:05
rosmaitaall driver maintainers14:05
rosmaitathere's a new event for you this cycle14:06
enriquetasoo/14:06
rosmaita#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html#v-cinder-driver-features-declaration14:06
rosmaitamake sure you read that and let me know if you have any questions14:06
rosmaita#topic updates - checkpoints14:06
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rosmaitathis cycle is moving along quickly!14:07
smcginnisIt's a shorter one.14:07
rosmaitathis week is R-18, so 18 weeks away from release14:07
rosmaitamilestone 1 is at R-1714:07
rosmaitathat is, next week!14:07
jungleboyjYeah,  September will be here before we know it.14:07
rosmaitaanyway, at the virtual PTG, people expressed interest in doing 2 midcycles like we did last cycle14:08
rosmaitaso I'm proposing R-8, which is the week of the new feature status checkpoint for part 214:08
rosmaitaso it makes sense to have part 1 at R-1614:08
rosmaitawhich is really soon!14:09
rosmaitabut the spec freeze is R-1514:09
rosmaitaso i think it would be good to have a virtual meeting the week before in case people have questions about their specs14:09
whoami-rajatR-16 is next to next week?14:09
rosmaitayep14:09
rosmaitait will be nice to see all your smiling faces so soon again14:10
rosmaita:)14:10
rosmaitaanyway, my main question about this is: is anyone aware of major conflicts with either R-16 (June 22-26) or R-8 (August 17-21)14:11
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jungleboyjHe he.  We won't be at a big conference either of those weeks.14:12
rosmaitayeah, i guess no one will be anywhere other than home14:12
eharneykubecon europe virtual event aug 17-2014:12
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jungleboyjAh, virtual events.  :-)14:12
rosmaitai imagine we may have some overlap with kubecon?14:13
jungleboyjQuite likely.14:13
rosmaitaok,, maybe let's try the week before?  anyone aware of anything happening the week of Aug 10 - Aug 1414:14
rosmaitageguileo: btw, victoria cinderlib must be released by ^^14:14
rosmaitaok, i will put out a poll for the day/time for midcycle part 114:16
rosmaitain the meantime, people can check their calendars about Aug 10 - Aug 14 for part 214:16
rosmaita#action rosmaita - poll for day/time of midcycle part 1 during R-16 week14:17
rosmaita#topic updates - priorities for Milestone-114:17
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rosmaita#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/victoria14:18
rosmaitai'll give you a minute to open that link14:18
rosmaitano surprises there except maybe for the fact that it's NEXT WEEK!!!14:18
rosmaitaso i expect there to be some slippage14:19
rosmaitabut please prioritize reviews on these items14:19
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rosmaitaalso, two of those are unassigned for anyone who wants to pick up a quick deprecation to get out of the way14:19
rosmaitathe rbd one ... not sure how complex, but the os-reset-status should be pretty straightforward14:20
rosmaitaif you decide to pick one up, please assign yourself so that we don't duplicate efforts14:20
enriquetasoAbout the NFS encryption patch, reviews needed :P  I think the idea is to merge this first: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/14:21
rosmaitaOK, that is all for updates -- anyone have anything they'd like to announce?14:22
whoami-rajatrosmaita, i think we should also add geguileo default volume type BP14:22
rosmaitanot for M-114:22
geguileothe spec now is soooo much simpler  O:-)14:22
rosmaitaenriquetaso: since that's a glance thing, do not worry about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/14:23
rosmaitai dont' want to give cinder people a reason to postpone looking at the cinder part14:23
rosmaitai'll make clear at the glance meeting tomorrow that we are going ahead with the cinder side14:23
rosmaitaand they need to move faster on the glance_store change14:23
whoami-rajatmakes sense, it's already there for over a week now14:24
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rosmaitayeah, we had a long discussion about it at some point, can't rememeber whether it was before or during the ptg14:24
enriquetasoOK rosmaita, I'll remove the -1 in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/597148/ then14:25
rosmaitaenriquetaso: please do ... thanks14:25
enriquetasoIt's ready now :)14:25
rosmaitagreat! everyone, please do enriquetaso a solid and take a look!14:26
enriquetasothanks whoami-rajat and rosmaita for the discussing it w glance team during PTG14:26
rosmaita#topic suggestion to hold a monthly virtual videoconf meeting14:26
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whoami-rajatnp14:26
rosmaitaok, we don't need to do it this month because we'll be having the virtual midcycle in 2 weeks!14:26
rosmaitabut there was a suggestion on the PTG etherpad with a bunch of +1s that we hold a monthly virtual meetup14:27
enriquetasovideoconf++14:27
whoami-rajat+114:27
geguileovideoconf++14:27
rajinir+114:27
rosmaitawhat i want to do today is find out what kind of meeting we want14:27
jungleboyj+114:28
lseki+114:28
rosmaitalooking like everyone likes this14:28
rosmaitabut what i mean is14:28
jungleboyjvirtual happy hour+14:28
rosmaitado we want an informal talk about stuff meeting14:28
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rosmaitaor an actual cinder meeting14:28
rosmaitai am asking because14:28
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rosmaitasomeone from another project mentioned that virtual videoconf meetings can be tough on non-native english speakers14:29
rosmaitaespecially late in the day local time14:29
jungleboyjYeah, we had that discussion in the TC meeting.14:29
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rosmaitajungleboyj: what was the general feeling?14:29
jungleboyjThat it was fine to add a video conference meeting but it shouldn't replace the IRC meetings.14:30
rosmaitaok, that14:30
rosmaitas what i am thinking too14:30
rosmaitaso one possibility is have 1/2 hour irc and 1/2 hour video once a month14:30
rosmaitaor have a separate happy-hour kind of meeting once a month14:31
rosmaitabecause we do have the 2 midcycle videoconf for face-to-face kind of design stuff14:31
rosmaitaany thoughts?14:32
e0ne1/2 hour meeting doesn't sound good to me14:32
jungleboyjYeah, I don't know that that would work very well.14:32
geguileoI think we can do a full meeting once a month on video and have the IRC as a supporting tool14:33
rosmaitaok, i'm happy to be down voted on that suggestion14:33
geguileoso people not confortable talking can just write it on IRC14:33
eharneygeguileo++14:33
e0negeguileo: +114:33
Liang__yes, I can only know 20% of what is speaking14:33
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rosmaitaok, so we can commit to being good about typing in IRC as we are having the meeting14:34
jungleboyjI am ok with that if others agree.14:34
LiangFanggeguileo: ++14:34
rosmaitai was going to say we could use meetpad, but that apparently roasts the CPUs on some systems14:34
jungleboyjYep.14:35
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rosmaitai think i'll send a poll out to the ML in case people not here have strong opinions, or in case someone has second thoughts14:35
jungleboyjhttps://gph.is/1vOCl8h14:35
rosmaitabut i like geguileo's idea14:35
rosmaitawe can meet in (probably blue jeans) but take notes in IRC as usual14:36
rosmaitaok, thanks ... any other comments on this topic?14:36
jungleboyj++14:36
LiangFang++14:37
eharneyusing a video solution that works in most web browsers would be ideal14:37
rosmaita#action rosmaita poll about video meeting14:37
rosmaitais anyone aware of something like eharney has mentioned?14:37
rosmaitai imagine google meeting or hangout or whatever they call it these days is inaccessible in some countries14:38
rosmaitaand meetpad in firefox is apparently a disaster14:38
LiangFangnova use zoom in ptg14:39
rosmaitacan you use zoom without downloading anything?14:39
eharneyi think zoom doesn't work in firefox iirc14:39
smcginnisThere is a web client.14:39
rosmaitathe zoom app i downloaded was a big problem for me -- whenever someone shared their screen my system locked up14:39
whoami-rajatrosmaita, is the meetpad problem only in firefox? we can use chromium if it's browser specific14:39
jungleboyjOh no.14:39
smcginnisJitsi is supposed to be much better on chromium.14:40
LiangFangwhen open the url, seems it will automatically install a plugin14:40
smcginnisLiangFang: Which one? Zoom?14:40
jungleboyjGoogle meet is now free but I am guessing that it doesn't work in China.14:40
LiangFangyes, seems like that14:40
smcginnisIf you cancel the prompt something like 3-4 times, then it's smart enough to fall back to a webrtc client. But it's not intuitive. I don't think they really advertise that.14:41
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rosmaitaLiangFang: did you have any success with jitsi/meetpad14:41
rosmaitasmcginnis: like an idiot, i assumed that installing the app would give me a better overall zoom experience14:41
rosmaitai was sadly mistaken on Fedora 32, anyway14:42
smcginnisrosmaita: I would have assumed the same.14:42
LiangFangrosmaita: not tried yet, we use lync inside and zoom outside normally14:42
smcginnisIt has worked well for me on Fedora 31. Just upgraded to 32, so not much experience there yet.14:42
rosmaitawatch out!14:42
rosmaitai am on a lenovo P5014:43
toskyit worked for me on F32 (but on Xorg, I haven't tried Wayland)14:43
rosmaitaok, well if i am the only zoom casualty, i can try smcginnis's suggestion14:43
rosmaitawould be helpful actually because everyone seems to want to zoom these days14:44
rosmaitajust want to verify -- am i the only anti-zoom person?14:44
smcginnisI would prefer meetpad if it's an option, but I'm on zoom calls all day anyway, so either works for me.14:45
smcginnisBluejeans seemed to work well too.14:45
jungleboyjI am ok with any of them.14:46
rosmaitaok, i will include a question ranking zoom, meetpad, and bluejeans on the virtual meeting once a month poll14:46
rosmaita#action rosmaita virtual meeting poll - format proposed by geguileo, technology question14:46
rosmaitaok, thanks for that discussion14:47
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rosmaita#topic open discussion14:47
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rosmaitaoh yeah, i forgot to mention14:47
rosmaitathere are some ACTIONs on the PTG summary14:47
rosmaitamake sure you look to see if you have one14:47
rosmaitawhat reminded me is that I personally have a lot, and i need to get working!14:48
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rosmaita#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary14:48
whoami-rajatwould like to get review on this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732525/ . the previous patch doesn't work (sorry about that). this i've verified and works.14:49
jungleboyjrosmaita: Good summary.  Thanks!14:49
rosmaitawhoami-rajat: do you have a test to catch the not-working?14:50
whoami-rajatrosmaita, don't think so, i think i can update the patch with a test14:51
whoami-rajatwould be better14:51
rosmaitawhoami-rajat: that would be great, would set a good example :D14:51
rosmaitaalso, since i approved the broken patch, i would like to see what i missed!14:52
whoami-rajatyeah, it's a stupid mistake14:52
whoami-rajatand also i missed there can be multiple attachments14:52
rosmaitayeah, i should have realized that too14:52
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toskyrosmaita: I have a tiny patch mostly for you, in order to watch devstack-plugin-{ceph,nfs} changes here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734792/ (not sure they require the PTL approval, but still)14:54
rosmaitatosky: i am flattered!14:54
rosmaitanice14:54
rosmaitai will have one for you, hopefully later today -- want to set up a "tips" job, cinder against os-brick master14:55
smcginnisrosmaita: I think we cover that the other way around. An os-brick job that runs against cinder.14:55
rosmaitasmcginnis: you are probably right14:56
rosmaitayeah, that makes sense .. key thing is to catch a brick change that breaks cinder before we cut a brick release14:57
rosmaitatwo minutes ... anything else?14:58
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LiangFanghope can take a look of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663549/14:59
rosmaitaok, thanks everyone!15:00
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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jungleboyjThanks!15:00
e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 10 15:00:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:00
rdopierao/15:01
vishalmanchandahi all.15:01
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e0nehi15:04
e0ne#topic Notices15:04
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e0newe'll reach victoria-1 milestone next week15:05
e0ne#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html15:05
e0nethis cycle is shorter than usually15:05
e0neso be ready to reach milistones15:05
e0nethanks everybody who attended virtual PTG15:06
e0ne#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-v-ptg15:06
e0newe missed few topics because of lack of time15:07
e0nebut my feeling is: it was productive enough15:07
e0neof course, non-virtual face-to-face communications are better15:07
vishalmanchandae0ne: agreed.15:08
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e0nebut Virtual PTG is better than nothing15:09
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e0nethat's all updates I have this week15:10
e0neI'm going to update our priorities etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-release-priorities before next meeting15:10
e0neso we'll start with our usual agenda next week15:11
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e0ne#topic Open Discussion15:11
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e0nedo we have anything to discuss today?15:12
vishalmanchandae0ne: JFYI i have pushed a patch for cinder-user-facing messages15:12
vishalmanchanda#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734161/15:12
vishalmanchandait look this https://ibb.co/nmJpqjC15:12
e0nevishalmanchanda: awesome!15:12
vishalmanchandaBut still i have to fix some scenarios.15:13
e0neI'll test and review it asap15:13
vishalmanchandaI have few queries about it.15:13
vishalmanchandaCinder only provides user messages for volumes and snapshot?15:14
vishalmanchandaany plans of adding these messages for more resources like backup, group and so on.....15:14
e0netechnically, it can create messages for any resources, but looks like only volume-related messages are implemented now15:16
e0nebackups are not priority for sure15:16
e0neI don't know if anybody works on messages for groups or any other resources15:17
vishalmanchandae0ne: ok.15:17
vishalmanchandae0ne: have you get time to test refactor-error-messages patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ ?15:18
vishalmanchandae0ne: it would be nice if we can merge this before milestone-1.15:19
e0nevishalmanchanda: I'm sorry, I didn't test it yet:(15:19
vishalmanchandae0ne: ok. np.15:21
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e0nevishalmanchanda: I'll do it asap15:23
vishalmanchandae0ne: thanks:)15:23
vishalmanchandaI have nothing else to discuss.15:23
e0nerdopiera: do you have anything to add?15:24
e0nelooks like we can wrap-up the meeting. today15:25
e0nethanks everybody for you contributions and see you next week15:26
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e0ne#endmeeting15:27
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