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rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 10 14:00:07 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:00 |
rajinir | hi | 14:00 |
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tosky | hi | 14:00 |
lseki | hi | 14:00 |
LiangFang | hi | 14:01 |
e0ne | hi | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
eharney | hi | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | Hello everyone! good turnout | 14:01 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings | 14:01 |
smcginnis | o/ | 14:02 |
* lseki why is jungleboyj so mad? | 14:02 | |
rosmaita | i just got back from the eye doctor, had my eyes dilated, and between the LEDs in my keyboard and the computer screen, i am practically blinded by all the light | 14:02 |
smcginnis | He has anger issues. :D | 14:02 |
rosmaita | so my typing will be slower than usual | 14:02 |
rosmaita | but luckily it's a light agenda | 14:02 |
smcginnis | Har har | 14:03 |
jungleboyj | ¯\(◉‿◉)/¯ | 14:03 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - PTG summary available | 14:03 |
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rosmaita | jungleboyj: thanks, i needed that | 14:03 |
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jungleboyj | You are welcome. Any time. | 14:03 |
rosmaita | well, i had it open somewhere | 14:03 |
rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary | 14:03 |
rosmaita | ok, so for anyone who missed the excitement last week, there are recordings you can watch! | 14:04 |
rosmaita | also brief summaries | 14:04 |
rosmaita | anyone who led a session, please read & clarify my description of what i thought we discussed | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | my topics are well covered rosmaita++ | 14:05 |
rosmaita | great, ty | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #topic updates -victoria schedule | 14:05 |
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rosmaita | the cinder specific events have merged | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html | 14:05 |
rosmaita | all driver maintainers | 14:05 |
rosmaita | there's a new event for you this cycle | 14:06 |
enriquetaso | o/ | 14:06 |
rosmaita | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html#v-cinder-driver-features-declaration | 14:06 |
rosmaita | make sure you read that and let me know if you have any questions | 14:06 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - checkpoints | 14:06 |
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rosmaita | this cycle is moving along quickly! | 14:07 |
smcginnis | It's a shorter one. | 14:07 |
rosmaita | this week is R-18, so 18 weeks away from release | 14:07 |
rosmaita | milestone 1 is at R-17 | 14:07 |
rosmaita | that is, next week! | 14:07 |
jungleboyj | Yeah, September will be here before we know it. | 14:07 |
rosmaita | anyway, at the virtual PTG, people expressed interest in doing 2 midcycles like we did last cycle | 14:08 |
rosmaita | so I'm proposing R-8, which is the week of the new feature status checkpoint for part 2 | 14:08 |
rosmaita | so it makes sense to have part 1 at R-16 | 14:08 |
rosmaita | which is really soon! | 14:09 |
rosmaita | but the spec freeze is R-15 | 14:09 |
rosmaita | so i think it would be good to have a virtual meeting the week before in case people have questions about their specs | 14:09 |
whoami-rajat | R-16 is next to next week? | 14:09 |
rosmaita | yep | 14:09 |
rosmaita | it will be nice to see all your smiling faces so soon again | 14:10 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:10 |
rosmaita | anyway, my main question about this is: is anyone aware of major conflicts with either R-16 (June 22-26) or R-8 (August 17-21) | 14:11 |
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jungleboyj | He he. We won't be at a big conference either of those weeks. | 14:12 |
rosmaita | yeah, i guess no one will be anywhere other than home | 14:12 |
eharney | kubecon europe virtual event aug 17-20 | 14:12 |
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jungleboyj | Ah, virtual events. :-) | 14:12 |
rosmaita | i imagine we may have some overlap with kubecon? | 14:13 |
jungleboyj | Quite likely. | 14:13 |
rosmaita | ok,, maybe let's try the week before? anyone aware of anything happening the week of Aug 10 - Aug 14 | 14:14 |
rosmaita | geguileo: btw, victoria cinderlib must be released by ^^ | 14:14 |
rosmaita | ok, i will put out a poll for the day/time for midcycle part 1 | 14:16 |
rosmaita | in the meantime, people can check their calendars about Aug 10 - Aug 14 for part 2 | 14:16 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita - poll for day/time of midcycle part 1 during R-16 week | 14:17 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - priorities for Milestone-1 | 14:17 |
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rosmaita | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/victoria | 14:18 |
rosmaita | i'll give you a minute to open that link | 14:18 |
rosmaita | no surprises there except maybe for the fact that it's NEXT WEEK!!! | 14:18 |
rosmaita | so i expect there to be some slippage | 14:19 |
rosmaita | but please prioritize reviews on these items | 14:19 |
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rosmaita | also, two of those are unassigned for anyone who wants to pick up a quick deprecation to get out of the way | 14:19 |
rosmaita | the rbd one ... not sure how complex, but the os-reset-status should be pretty straightforward | 14:20 |
rosmaita | if you decide to pick one up, please assign yourself so that we don't duplicate efforts | 14:20 |
enriquetaso | About the NFS encryption patch, reviews needed :P I think the idea is to merge this first: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/ | 14:21 |
rosmaita | OK, that is all for updates -- anyone have anything they'd like to announce? | 14:22 |
whoami-rajat | rosmaita, i think we should also add geguileo default volume type BP | 14:22 |
rosmaita | not for M-1 | 14:22 |
geguileo | the spec now is soooo much simpler O:-) | 14:22 |
rosmaita | enriquetaso: since that's a glance thing, do not worry about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/ | 14:23 |
rosmaita | i dont' want to give cinder people a reason to postpone looking at the cinder part | 14:23 |
rosmaita | i'll make clear at the glance meeting tomorrow that we are going ahead with the cinder side | 14:23 |
rosmaita | and they need to move faster on the glance_store change | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | makes sense, it's already there for over a week now | 14:24 |
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rosmaita | yeah, we had a long discussion about it at some point, can't rememeber whether it was before or during the ptg | 14:24 |
enriquetaso | OK rosmaita, I'll remove the -1 in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/597148/ then | 14:25 |
rosmaita | enriquetaso: please do ... thanks | 14:25 |
enriquetaso | It's ready now :) | 14:25 |
rosmaita | great! everyone, please do enriquetaso a solid and take a look! | 14:26 |
enriquetaso | thanks whoami-rajat and rosmaita for the discussing it w glance team during PTG | 14:26 |
rosmaita | #topic suggestion to hold a monthly virtual videoconf meeting | 14:26 |
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whoami-rajat | np | 14:26 |
rosmaita | ok, we don't need to do it this month because we'll be having the virtual midcycle in 2 weeks! | 14:26 |
rosmaita | but there was a suggestion on the PTG etherpad with a bunch of +1s that we hold a monthly virtual meetup | 14:27 |
enriquetaso | videoconf++ | 14:27 |
whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:27 |
geguileo | videoconf++ | 14:27 |
rajinir | +1 | 14:27 |
rosmaita | what i want to do today is find out what kind of meeting we want | 14:27 |
jungleboyj | +1 | 14:28 |
lseki | +1 | 14:28 |
rosmaita | looking like everyone likes this | 14:28 |
rosmaita | but what i mean is | 14:28 |
jungleboyj | virtual happy hour+ | 14:28 |
rosmaita | do we want an informal talk about stuff meeting | 14:28 |
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rosmaita | or an actual cinder meeting | 14:28 |
rosmaita | i am asking because | 14:28 |
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rosmaita | someone from another project mentioned that virtual videoconf meetings can be tough on non-native english speakers | 14:29 |
rosmaita | especially late in the day local time | 14:29 |
jungleboyj | Yeah, we had that discussion in the TC meeting. | 14:29 |
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rosmaita | jungleboyj: what was the general feeling? | 14:29 |
jungleboyj | That it was fine to add a video conference meeting but it shouldn't replace the IRC meetings. | 14:30 |
rosmaita | ok, that | 14:30 |
rosmaita | s what i am thinking too | 14:30 |
rosmaita | so one possibility is have 1/2 hour irc and 1/2 hour video once a month | 14:30 |
rosmaita | or have a separate happy-hour kind of meeting once a month | 14:31 |
rosmaita | because we do have the 2 midcycle videoconf for face-to-face kind of design stuff | 14:31 |
rosmaita | any thoughts? | 14:32 |
e0ne | 1/2 hour meeting doesn't sound good to me | 14:32 |
jungleboyj | Yeah, I don't know that that would work very well. | 14:32 |
geguileo | I think we can do a full meeting once a month on video and have the IRC as a supporting tool | 14:33 |
rosmaita | ok, i'm happy to be down voted on that suggestion | 14:33 |
geguileo | so people not confortable talking can just write it on IRC | 14:33 |
eharney | geguileo++ | 14:33 |
e0ne | geguileo: +1 | 14:33 |
Liang__ | yes, I can only know 20% of what is speaking | 14:33 |
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rosmaita | ok, so we can commit to being good about typing in IRC as we are having the meeting | 14:34 |
jungleboyj | I am ok with that if others agree. | 14:34 |
LiangFang | geguileo: ++ | 14:34 |
rosmaita | i was going to say we could use meetpad, but that apparently roasts the CPUs on some systems | 14:34 |
jungleboyj | Yep. | 14:35 |
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rosmaita | i think i'll send a poll out to the ML in case people not here have strong opinions, or in case someone has second thoughts | 14:35 |
jungleboyj | https://gph.is/1vOCl8h | 14:35 |
rosmaita | but i like geguileo's idea | 14:35 |
rosmaita | we can meet in (probably blue jeans) but take notes in IRC as usual | 14:36 |
rosmaita | ok, thanks ... any other comments on this topic? | 14:36 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 14:36 |
LiangFang | ++ | 14:37 |
eharney | using a video solution that works in most web browsers would be ideal | 14:37 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita poll about video meeting | 14:37 |
rosmaita | is anyone aware of something like eharney has mentioned? | 14:37 |
rosmaita | i imagine google meeting or hangout or whatever they call it these days is inaccessible in some countries | 14:38 |
rosmaita | and meetpad in firefox is apparently a disaster | 14:38 |
LiangFang | nova use zoom in ptg | 14:39 |
rosmaita | can you use zoom without downloading anything? | 14:39 |
eharney | i think zoom doesn't work in firefox iirc | 14:39 |
smcginnis | There is a web client. | 14:39 |
rosmaita | the zoom app i downloaded was a big problem for me -- whenever someone shared their screen my system locked up | 14:39 |
whoami-rajat | rosmaita, is the meetpad problem only in firefox? we can use chromium if it's browser specific | 14:39 |
jungleboyj | Oh no. | 14:39 |
smcginnis | Jitsi is supposed to be much better on chromium. | 14:40 |
LiangFang | when open the url, seems it will automatically install a plugin | 14:40 |
smcginnis | LiangFang: Which one? Zoom? | 14:40 |
jungleboyj | Google meet is now free but I am guessing that it doesn't work in China. | 14:40 |
LiangFang | yes, seems like that | 14:40 |
smcginnis | If you cancel the prompt something like 3-4 times, then it's smart enough to fall back to a webrtc client. But it's not intuitive. I don't think they really advertise that. | 14:41 |
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rosmaita | LiangFang: did you have any success with jitsi/meetpad | 14:41 |
rosmaita | smcginnis: like an idiot, i assumed that installing the app would give me a better overall zoom experience | 14:41 |
rosmaita | i was sadly mistaken on Fedora 32, anyway | 14:42 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: I would have assumed the same. | 14:42 |
LiangFang | rosmaita: not tried yet, we use lync inside and zoom outside normally | 14:42 |
smcginnis | It has worked well for me on Fedora 31. Just upgraded to 32, so not much experience there yet. | 14:42 |
rosmaita | watch out! | 14:42 |
rosmaita | i am on a lenovo P50 | 14:43 |
tosky | it worked for me on F32 (but on Xorg, I haven't tried Wayland) | 14:43 |
rosmaita | ok, well if i am the only zoom casualty, i can try smcginnis's suggestion | 14:43 |
rosmaita | would be helpful actually because everyone seems to want to zoom these days | 14:44 |
rosmaita | just want to verify -- am i the only anti-zoom person? | 14:44 |
smcginnis | I would prefer meetpad if it's an option, but I'm on zoom calls all day anyway, so either works for me. | 14:45 |
smcginnis | Bluejeans seemed to work well too. | 14:45 |
jungleboyj | I am ok with any of them. | 14:46 |
rosmaita | ok, i will include a question ranking zoom, meetpad, and bluejeans on the virtual meeting once a month poll | 14:46 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita virtual meeting poll - format proposed by geguileo, technology question | 14:46 |
rosmaita | ok, thanks for that discussion | 14:47 |
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rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:47 |
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rosmaita | oh yeah, i forgot to mention | 14:47 |
rosmaita | there are some ACTIONs on the PTG summary | 14:47 |
rosmaita | make sure you look to see if you have one | 14:47 |
rosmaita | what reminded me is that I personally have a lot, and i need to get working! | 14:48 |
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rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary | 14:48 |
whoami-rajat | would like to get review on this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732525/ . the previous patch doesn't work (sorry about that). this i've verified and works. | 14:49 |
jungleboyj | rosmaita: Good summary. Thanks! | 14:49 |
rosmaita | whoami-rajat: do you have a test to catch the not-working? | 14:50 |
whoami-rajat | rosmaita, don't think so, i think i can update the patch with a test | 14:51 |
whoami-rajat | would be better | 14:51 |
rosmaita | whoami-rajat: that would be great, would set a good example :D | 14:51 |
rosmaita | also, since i approved the broken patch, i would like to see what i missed! | 14:52 |
whoami-rajat | yeah, it's a stupid mistake | 14:52 |
whoami-rajat | and also i missed there can be multiple attachments | 14:52 |
rosmaita | yeah, i should have realized that too | 14:52 |
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tosky | rosmaita: I have a tiny patch mostly for you, in order to watch devstack-plugin-{ceph,nfs} changes here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734792/ (not sure they require the PTL approval, but still) | 14:54 |
rosmaita | tosky: i am flattered! | 14:54 |
rosmaita | nice | 14:54 |
rosmaita | i will have one for you, hopefully later today -- want to set up a "tips" job, cinder against os-brick master | 14:55 |
smcginnis | rosmaita: I think we cover that the other way around. An os-brick job that runs against cinder. | 14:55 |
rosmaita | smcginnis: you are probably right | 14:56 |
rosmaita | yeah, that makes sense .. key thing is to catch a brick change that breaks cinder before we cut a brick release | 14:57 |
rosmaita | two minutes ... anything else? | 14:58 |
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LiangFang | hope can take a look of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663549/ | 14:59 |
rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 10 15:00:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-06-10-14.00.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-06-10-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-06-10-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:00 |
e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 10 15:00:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:00 |
rdopiera | o/ | 15:01 |
vishalmanchanda | hi all. | 15:01 |
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e0ne | hi | 15:04 |
e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:04 |
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e0ne | we'll reach victoria-1 milestone next week | 15:05 |
e0ne | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html | 15:05 |
e0ne | this cycle is shorter than usually | 15:05 |
e0ne | so be ready to reach milistones | 15:05 |
e0ne | thanks everybody who attended virtual PTG | 15:06 |
e0ne | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-v-ptg | 15:06 |
e0ne | we missed few topics because of lack of time | 15:07 |
e0ne | but my feeling is: it was productive enough | 15:07 |
e0ne | of course, non-virtual face-to-face communications are better | 15:07 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: agreed. | 15:08 |
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e0ne | but Virtual PTG is better than nothing | 15:09 |
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e0ne | that's all updates I have this week | 15:10 |
e0ne | I'm going to update our priorities etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-release-priorities before next meeting | 15:10 |
e0ne | so we'll start with our usual agenda next week | 15:11 |
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e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:11 |
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e0ne | do we have anything to discuss today? | 15:12 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: JFYI i have pushed a patch for cinder-user-facing messages | 15:12 |
vishalmanchanda | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734161/ | 15:12 |
vishalmanchanda | it look this https://ibb.co/nmJpqjC | 15:12 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: awesome! | 15:12 |
vishalmanchanda | But still i have to fix some scenarios. | 15:13 |
e0ne | I'll test and review it asap | 15:13 |
vishalmanchanda | I have few queries about it. | 15:13 |
vishalmanchanda | Cinder only provides user messages for volumes and snapshot? | 15:14 |
vishalmanchanda | any plans of adding these messages for more resources like backup, group and so on..... | 15:14 |
e0ne | technically, it can create messages for any resources, but looks like only volume-related messages are implemented now | 15:16 |
e0ne | backups are not priority for sure | 15:16 |
e0ne | I don't know if anybody works on messages for groups or any other resources | 15:17 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: ok. | 15:17 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: have you get time to test refactor-error-messages patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ ? | 15:18 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: it would be nice if we can merge this before milestone-1. | 15:19 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: I'm sorry, I didn't test it yet:( | 15:19 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: ok. np. | 15:21 |
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e0ne | vishalmanchanda: I'll do it asap | 15:23 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: thanks:) | 15:23 |
vishalmanchanda | I have nothing else to discuss. | 15:23 |
e0ne | rdopiera: do you have anything to add? | 15:24 |
e0ne | looks like we can wrap-up the meeting. today | 15:25 |
e0ne | thanks everybody for you contributions and see you next week | 15:26 |
rdopiera | nothing | 15:26 |
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e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-06-10-15.00.html | 15:27 |
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