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| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 29 14:01:04 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:01 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
| rajinir | hi | 14:01 |
| walshh_ | hi | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | don't forget, today's meeting is also on video | 14:02 |
| jungleboyj | Oh. Ooops. | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings | 14:02 |
| geguileo | hi! | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | video link on the etherpad ^^ | 14:02 |
| lseki | o/ | 14:02 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 14:03 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:04 |
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| tosky | o/ | 14:05 |
| tosky | oh, video? | 14:05 |
| enriquetaso | tosky, yep | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #topics | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:06 | |
| rosmaita | Berlin 2020 will be virtual | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016068.html | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | PTG also virtual | 14:07 |
| lseki | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016098.html | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | reminder: presentation proposals for the summit are due by Tuesday 4 August | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/015730.html | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | virtual mid-cycle part 2 poll | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016141.html | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | virtual mid-cycle part 2 planning | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-mid-cycles | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | branch freeze for stable/pike and stable/ocata | 14:10 |
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| rosmaita | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016127.html | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | cinderlib 2.0.0 released last week & stable/ussuri branch cut | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | timeline | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | R-11 : this week -- milestone-2, new driver merge deadline | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | R-9 : midcycle part 2 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | R-6 : non-client library release | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | R-5 : milestone-3, client library release, feature freeze | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | R-3 : RC-1 | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat__ | Hi | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | volume-local cache could use reviews | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | not sure about the in-flight encryption effort | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me ... anyone else? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | #topic os-brick milestone-2 release? | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "os-brick milestone-2 release? (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:16 | |
| rosmaita | we will do a quick release, but continue to review changes | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-brick+status:open Open os-brick patches needing reviews | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #topic Brocade FCZM driver & Python 3 status report | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brocade FCZM driver & Python 3 status report (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:22 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:brocade | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | problem was that it didn't run in Python 3 | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | these patches get it working in Python 3 | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | our proposal is to merge these to master, and backport to ussuri and train | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | will be good to have it actually working in ussuri, which is py3 only | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | and also train is supposed to support python 3 | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | netapp and dell have customers using brocade switches | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | not clear how many use the zone manager driver | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | so, we will get the brocade fczm into a stable state in the codebase | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | we will decide how to support it from victoria on at the mid-cycle meeting in 2 weeks | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | #topic Ceph iSCSI driver | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ceph iSCSI driver (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:32 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:ceph-iscsi | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | this is a new driver | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | it's been worked on for a while | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | this is a community driver, not proprietary | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | the CI is under our control, not third-party | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | we need a patch that shows that the CI is running correctly | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | so there is support among us to finish this driver | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | but, we do need to see the CI working | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | so we will grant a one time special purpose extension to the driver merge deadline | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | until the mid-cycle | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | but we definitely need a patch that sets up a CI job, it can depend on the current patches, and will show that we can run good integration tests for this driver | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | any other comments? | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | #topic __DEFAULT__ type update/delete modification | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "__DEFAULT__ type update/delete modification (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:43 | |
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| rosmaita | #link (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741498/ | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | need some eyes on this | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | it's blocking work on the default-type-overrides blueprint for victoria | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | any questions or comments? | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | #topic Open Dicsussion | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Dicsussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:46 | |
| rosmaita | anyone? | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | NFS drivers online extent issue | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | eric says we need better CI coverage | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | we need to coordinate with nova on this | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bug/1870367+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:51 |
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| smcginnis | #link http://cinderstats.ivehearditbothways.com/cireport.txt CI Report | 14:52 |
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| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 29 14:56:03 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-07-29-14.01.html | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-07-29-14.01.txt | 14:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-07-29-14.01.log.html | 14:56 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 29 15:01:28 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 15:01 |
| vishalmanchanda | hi | 15:01 |
| amotoki | hi | 15:01 |
| e0ne | let's wait two minutes more if somebody joins us | 15:03 |
| e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:05 | |
| e0ne | this week is victoria-2 milesone https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html | 15:06 |
| e0ne | we discussed it during the previous meeting | 15:06 |
| e0ne | I didn't find deprecated features to be removed in victoria | 15:06 |
| e0ne | of course, I could miss something | 15:06 |
| e0ne | but it looks like there is nothing special for horizon to make victoria-2 release | 15:08 |
| vishalmanchanda | we have to drop this https://opendev.org/openstack/horizon/src/branch/master/openstack_dashboard/usage/quotas.py#L365 in victoria cycle. | 15:08 |
| e0ne | I would like to ask amotoki for this as a neutron expert | 15:09 |
| vishalmanchanda | amotoki: any plans of doing this? | 15:09 |
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| amotoki | e0ne: yeah, it is a long-standing topic. | 15:10 |
| amotoki | most neutron deployments are ready for it, but there is only one exception, contrail based deployments..... | 15:11 |
| e0ne | amotoki: that's was my point | 15:11 |
| amotoki | contrail based deployments has completely different neutron implementations and it is always a headache for us. | 15:11 |
| e0ne | I was looking for this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707774/ patch | 15:11 |
| e0ne | anyway, we can discuss it later | 15:12 |
| amotoki | the contrail plugin only implements the neutron API long ago and it does not follow all changes... so it is a fork of neutron | 15:13 |
| amotoki | I have no idea on how to support it. | 15:13 |
| e0ne | :( | 15:13 |
| amotoki | as my hat of neutron liaison, I cannot support it and spend time on reviewing it without more volunteers from contrail based consumers | 15:14 |
| amotoki | that's the reason I moved it to the deprecation status in the last cycle. | 15:15 |
| e0ne | I'm working with contrail-base deployments but I'm not expert in it at all | 15:15 |
| vishalmanchanda | btw just for curiosity what is "contrail-base deployments" ? | 15:16 |
| amotoki | we have always handled such issues only based on bug reports but at least we have some contributions from operators (not from vendors) on this | 15:16 |
| e0ne | I mean contrail-based | 15:16 |
| e0ne | amotoki: the patch above is from my colleague from contrail team | 15:17 |
| amotoki | I am okay to keep the support, but the difficulty is that such report does not mention it and detail discussions in bug reports reveal it. it is a waste of time to me. I hope someone is aware of it. | 15:19 |
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| amotoki | I just wanna a person who takes care of it | 15:19 |
| e0ne | amotoki: sure, we need to have bug reports for such patches | 15:19 |
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| amotoki | e0ne: the similar situation happens for ceph, so I am not so against only for contrail/tungstenfabric | 15:20 |
| e0ne | amotoki: what do you mean? | 15:21 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I'm not familiar with any ceph-related issues in horizon | 15:21 |
| amotoki | e0ne: ceph's swift support is sometimes a variant and it is sometimes a headache | 15:21 |
| e0ne | amotoki: yes, I understand you. we've got such bugs reported time to time | 15:22 |
| amotoki | ceph implements a dialect of the Swift API for example the capability support. we had a bug report | 15:22 |
| e0ne | amotoki: usually, we can't fix such bugs from horizon's side | 15:22 |
| e0ne | but we need to ask people to add details into the launchpad about their environments | 15:23 |
| amotoki | yeah | 15:23 |
| amotoki | back to the topic on neutron quota_details, one aggresive idea is to drop the support once. They have choices: to implement quotas_detail (which was implemeted four or more releases ago) or to blame horizon | 15:26 |
| vishalmanchanda | haha🙂) | 15:27 |
| -amotoki- is half joking | 15:27 | |
| e0ne | :) | 15:28 |
| e0ne | in any case, we won't remove it right now so we've got nothing critical to release victoria-2 | 15:28 |
| amotoki | back to serious, what is the possible next step? | 15:28 |
| e0ne | I'm interesting in contrail/tf support in horizon because our customers uses it | 15:29 |
| amotoki | sounds fair | 15:30 |
| e0ne | but I can't review related patches because we've got a dedicated team to work with contrail, so I don't have a lot of experience in this area | 15:30 |
| amotoki | it shows the fact that many developers have been changed in neutron and horizon so it is not easy to only understand the background now | 15:31 |
| e0ne | I mean, I can't review patches from contrail perspective | 15:31 |
| amotoki | what I can do is to add more NOTE comments on this to the related pieces of codes. | 15:32 |
| amotoki | like "NOTE: It is for contrail requirements" :) | 15:33 |
| e0ne | it could be useful | 15:34 |
| amotoki | okay, our consensus so far is: | 15:34 |
| amotoki | (1) to keep neutron quota supports WITHOUT quota_details (at least for contrail/tf) | 15:35 |
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| amotoki | (2) amotoki will add more context on this to the related codes | 15:36 |
| amotoki | okay? | 15:36 |
| e0ne | sounds good | 15:36 |
| amotoki | thanks | 15:36 |
| e0ne | let's move on | 15:37 |
| e0ne | CFP for the next Virtual Open Infra summit is open until Aug 4th | 15:38 |
| e0ne | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/ | 15:38 |
| e0ne | if you're going to submit your talk proposal for the next summit, you've got few more days | 15:38 |
| e0ne | it will be a free full-virtual event | 15:39 |
| e0ne | Horizon virtual mid-cycle | 15:40 |
| e0ne | only vishalmanchanda voted yet | 15:40 |
| e0ne | #link https://doodle.com/poll/3neps94amcreaw8q? | 15:40 |
| e0ne | I'm going to send one more email for it | 15:40 |
| e0ne | probably, we need to re-shcedule it | 15:41 |
| amotoki | I thought the candidate dates are updated. | 15:41 |
| e0ne | so it won't be not a mid-cycle but late-cycle meetup | 15:41 |
| amotoki | so I didn't vote it | 15:41 |
| e0ne | amotoki: my fail | 15:41 |
| e0ne | I have to register to doodle.com to change a description | 15:42 |
| amotoki | e0ne: how long do you think it is? | 15:42 |
| e0ne | amotoki: sorry, what actually do you mean? | 15:42 |
| amotoki | e0ne: how many hours/days do you expect? | 15:43 |
| e0ne | I was expecting for one day/one hour for sure | 15:43 |
| e0ne | I don't expect a lot of participators there | 15:44 |
| e0ne | ( | 15:44 |
| amotoki | I am planning to join it during my vacation week after a bit thinking (as changing my off week needs duplicated procedure and perhaps extra off would be easier) | 15:45 |
| amotoki | perhaps wed/thur would be fine | 15:46 |
| e0ne | I've updated the poll | 15:48 |
| e0ne | #link https://doodle.com/poll/dkmsai49v4zzpca2 | 15:48 |
| e0ne | vishalmanchanda: please, vote again | 15:48 |
| vishalmanchanda | sure. | 15:48 |
| e0ne | I'll send a mail notification after the meeting | 15:49 |
| e0ne | vishalmanchanda: thank you | 15:49 |
| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:50 | |
| e0ne | we've got 10 minutes left | 15:50 |
| amotoki | I have a couple of small things | 15:50 |
| e0ne | amotoki: sure | 15:50 |
| amotoki | the first one is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743600/ | 15:50 |
| amotoki | it is against the deprecation of OPENSTACK_NOVA_EXTENSIONS_BLACKLIST | 15:50 |
| e0ne | I think we need to ask nova team | 15:51 |
| amotoki | I posted my opinion to introduce new corresponding settings. I hope your thoughts on this | 15:51 |
| e0ne | we should follow their decision on it | 15:51 |
| amotoki | e0ne: I had a discussion with mridemm a year ago and it sounds reaosnable to drop the nova extension support. | 15:52 |
| amotoki | the problem looks like how we can migrate the era without nova extension | 15:52 |
| e0ne | amotoki: did nova deprecated extensions? | 15:52 |
| amotoki | s/migrate/migrate horizon/ | 15:52 |
| amotoki | e0ne: nova dropped the extension support several releases ago | 15:53 |
| e0ne | it means we should do it too | 15:53 |
| amotoki | but it happened in the microversion | 15:53 |
| amotoki | nova API v2.1 (mirror of v2.0) still supports it | 15:53 |
| * e0ne hates microversions | 15:53 | |
| amotoki | it is the reason we can still use the nova extension API. | 15:54 |
| amotoki | but novaclient already dropped it and horizon has the nova extension list as hardcode in our code. | 15:54 |
| amotoki | so it is now an issue in horizon | 15:54 |
| e0ne | looks like we have to go forward and use new microversion API | 15:55 |
| amotoki | I have a full history on this and can discuss it with mnaser in the review (or in IRC) | 15:55 |
| e0ne | it would be good to understand what actually works slow | 15:56 |
| amotoki | yeah | 15:56 |
| amotoki | the other thing is about the policy support. e0ne, have you discuss something with oslo.policy team? | 15:57 |
| e0ne | amotoki: no, I didn't | 15:57 |
| amotoki | if not, I will discuss it in the policy pop-up team | 15:57 |
| amotoki | I am writing my draft on the policy support and can cover it. | 15:57 |
| e0ne | great! | 15:57 |
| amotoki | I just would like to confrim the situation. np | 15:58 |
| amotoki | that's all from me | 15:58 |
| vishalmanchanda | Can I have a review on this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ | 15:59 |
| amotoki | vishalmanchanda: thanks for working on this. I failed to find time these weeks due to events and others... will review it but not immediately, sorry | 16:00 |
| vishalmanchanda | amotoki: ohk, will wait. | 16:01 |
| vishalmanchanda | bye. | 16:01 |
| e0ne | we're out of time | 16:02 |
| amotoki | thanks all | 16:02 |
| e0ne | we can continue our conversation in #openstack-horizon channel | 16:02 |
| amotoki | it was a good time to sync | 16:02 |
| e0ne | thanks for the participation | 16:02 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 16:02 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 29 16:02:45 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-07-29-15.01.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-07-29-15.01.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-07-29-15.01.log.html | 16:02 |
| amotoki | o/ | 16:02 |
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