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rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 5 14:00:18 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
tosky | o/ | 14:00 |
e0ne | рш | 14:00 |
e0ne | hi | 14:00 |
eharney | hi | 14:00 |
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kaisers | o/ | 14:00 |
rajinir | hi | 14:00 |
LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:00 |
walshh_ | hi | 14:00 |
rambo_li | o/ | 14:00 |
rosmaita | good turnout | 14:01 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings | 14:01 |
rosmaita | not much on the agenda today, so i'll wait another minute for stragglers | 14:01 |
lseki | o/ | 14:01 |
geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:02 |
rosmaita | ok, guess that's everybody | 14:02 |
enriquetaso | hi | 14:02 |
rosmaita | ok, *now* that's everybody | 14:02 |
enriquetaso | :) | 14:02 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - virtual mid-cycle | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates - virtual mid-cycle (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
rosmaita | it's next week on Wednesday at this time, so we won't have a team meeting | 14:03 |
rosmaita | actually, we will, it will just be the midcycle | 14:03 |
rosmaita | anyway: 12 August 2020 14:00-1600 UTC | 14:03 |
rosmaita | we'll do it in bluejeans, connection info is in the email | 14:04 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016289.html | 14:04 |
rosmaita | don't forget to add topics to the etherpad | 14:04 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-mid-cycles | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - monthly video weekly meeting survey | 14:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates - monthly video weekly meeting survey (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:05 | |
rosmaita | everyone who took the survey said we should to a video meeting again | 14:06 |
rosmaita | all 4 of them | 14:06 |
rosmaita | so our last meeting of August will be video + IRC again | 14:06 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - gate excitement | 14:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates - gate excitement (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:06 | |
rosmaita | you may have noticed that the gates were flakey earlier this week | 14:06 |
rosmaita | i believe they are back to normal now | 14:07 |
rosmaita | smcginnis put up a patch that got the cinder gate moving for a while | 14:07 |
rosmaita | and then a longer-term fix was found | 14:07 |
rosmaita | for the lower-constraints job failure | 14:07 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016295.html | 14:07 |
rosmaita | and, grenade was blowing up in stable/ussuri | 14:08 |
rosmaita | looks like that is fixed now too | 14:08 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/744753/ | 14:08 |
rosmaita | hopefully that will be all the excitement for this week | 14:08 |
rosmaita | that's all from me -- anyone have any news they'd like to share? | 14:08 |
rosmaita | #topic Release notes for bugs | 14:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Release notes for bugs (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:09 | |
rosmaita | geguileo: that's you | 14:10 |
geguileo | thanks | 14:10 |
geguileo | we tend to add bug numbers in the release notes | 14:10 |
geguileo | but not always | 14:10 |
geguileo | and some of us just add the number, and others also add the link to the LP bug | 14:10 |
geguileo | I think we should reach a consensus on what we want to have | 14:11 |
geguileo | for consistency purposes | 14:11 |
e0ne | IMO, link to launchpad and some brief description will be great | 14:11 |
rosmaita | i agree | 14:11 |
geguileo | ok, whoami-rajat pointed it out in some of his reviews | 14:11 |
tosky | would it make sense to see if reno could parse and expand the launchpad link automatically from a keyword like lpnnnnn ? | 14:11 |
tosky | (maybe it's already there) | 14:11 |
geguileo | tosky: oh, if that existed it would be great | 14:12 |
rosmaita | i don't think it's already there, but it's a good idea | 14:12 |
geguileo | but in the meantime I think we kind of agree that having the link is what we want | 14:12 |
rosmaita | but for now, let's do it by hand | 14:12 |
whoami-rajat | geguileo, yep, rosmaita pointed that out in my reviews and I've been using that since :) | 14:12 |
eharney | that may get messy if it's a bug on multiple projects | 14:12 |
geguileo | ok, then I think we can start doing that and mentioning it in the reviews | 14:12 |
geguileo | I think we have a reno page in our docs | 14:13 |
geguileo | if we do, I'll mention this resolution there | 14:13 |
rosmaita | sounds good | 14:13 |
rosmaita | while we are on this topic | 14:13 |
geguileo | ok | 14:13 |
rosmaita | i try to point this out in reviews, but it would be good for driver change renos to begin with the driver name | 14:14 |
rosmaita | would make it easier for operators to find it | 14:14 |
rosmaita | something like | 14:14 |
rosmaita | Foo driver: fixed the bar in the baz. | 14:14 |
geguileo | sounds good | 14:15 |
geguileo | and we could do that in the first line of commit messages as well | 14:15 |
rosmaita | or Foo driver: `Bug #1234 <http...>`_: fixed the bar in the baz | 14:15 |
openstack | bug 1234 in Launchpad itself "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 - Assigned to Daniel Henrique Debonzi (debonzi) | 14:15 |
whoami-rajat | makes sense | 14:15 |
rosmaita | well at least bug 1234 is fixed | 14:15 |
whoami-rajat | :D | 14:15 |
geguileo | lol | 14:16 |
lseki | lol | 14:16 |
rosmaita | ok, that will really improve the release notes | 14:16 |
rosmaita | thanks, geguileo | 14:16 |
rosmaita | any other observations? | 14:16 |
geguileo | I'll propose a format in the patch and we can decide how we exactly want it | 14:16 |
geguileo | thanks everyone :-) | 14:16 |
rosmaita | excellent | 14:16 |
rosmaita | #topic what to return when a request fails because the default volume type doesn't exist | 14:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "what to return when a request fails because the default volume type doesn't exist (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:17 | |
e0ne | not a 500 :) | 14:17 |
rosmaita | this is something whoami-rajat is working on now | 14:17 |
rosmaita | i think this is a legitimate 500 though | 14:17 |
rosmaita | it's a server side mis-configuration | 14:17 |
whoami-rajat | specifically create volume request fails | 14:17 |
eharney | 500 sounds right for that case | 14:18 |
rosmaita | or anything that needs to access the default volume type | 14:18 |
rosmaita | the situation is that we are now requiring the default_volume_type to be set | 14:18 |
rosmaita | but if the operator has a typo | 14:18 |
rosmaita | then it can't be found | 14:18 |
rosmaita | and since we don't allow untyped volumes since traing | 14:18 |
rosmaita | *train | 14:18 |
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rosmaita | we fail the request | 14:18 |
e0ne | we've got InvalidConfigurationValue, 400 (https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/exception.py#L249) | 14:18 |
e0ne | but 400 doesn't looks good too:( | 14:19 |
eharney | 400 indicates that the problem is with the request from the user, which doesn't fit this | 14:19 |
e0ne | eharney: +1. that's why I don't like this option | 14:20 |
rosmaita | i guess you could stretch things and say if the user calls the admin and complains before making the next request, that's a 400 | 14:20 |
rosmaita | but it really seems it's a server-side thing | 14:20 |
e0ne | rosmaita: +1 | 14:21 |
rosmaita | hopefully it won't happen a lot | 14:21 |
e0ne | I don't like 500 errors but I can't propose a good enough solution :( | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | providing a wrong volume type in request is good for a 400 but sadly returns 404 | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | here 500 makes sense to me as well | 14:21 |
rosmaita | no, if the requestor makes a mistake, should be 4xx | 14:22 |
rosmaita | because they can fix the request | 14:22 |
whoami-rajat | yep, that was a different topic, just using that to explain why 500 makes sense here | 14:23 |
rosmaita | ok, i misunderstood | 14:23 |
rosmaita | ok, looks like there's support for this to be a 500 ? | 14:23 |
eharney | yes | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:23 |
rosmaita | ok, well hopefully operators will be careful in their configuration and won't see this very often | 14:24 |
rosmaita | #topic Support volume re-image | 14:25 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Support volume re-image (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:25 | |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/606346/ | 14:25 |
rosmaita | rambo_li: that's you | 14:25 |
rambo_li | yes | 14:25 |
rosmaita | this is a blast from the past | 14:26 |
rambo_li | yeah | 14:26 |
rambo_li | but the nova rebuild is need this | 14:26 |
rambo_li | I well hopefully this reimage api will merged in Victoria | 14:28 |
rosmaita | i don't think anyone is philosophically opposed to this, so it's mostly a matter of getting reviews | 14:30 |
rosmaita | we should probably add some tests to cinder-tempest-plugin to verify the functionality | 14:31 |
eharney | i am still skeptical about allowing the reimage operation on volumes with status "error" | 14:31 |
rosmaita | that does seem a bit odd | 14:32 |
eharney | i think it will just not work in many cases | 14:32 |
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rambo_li | eharney: the volume status is "error" means the volume data is bad, so we can reimage this, any problem? | 14:34 |
eharney | it could mean many different things, including, there isn't actually a volume | 14:35 |
eharney | "error" indicating anything about the data on the volume is probably the rare case | 14:35 |
rosmaita | rambo_li: what's the status of the nova side of this? | 14:36 |
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rambo_li | the volume is reserved | 14:37 |
rambo_li | when do the rebuild action | 14:38 |
rosmaita | ok, let's discuss this more at the midcycle next week | 14:38 |
rosmaita | i don't remember that stein spec at all and need to read through it | 14:38 |
rosmaita | and also the comments on the nova spec | 14:38 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739349/11 | 14:38 |
rosmaita | anything else? | 14:39 |
rosmaita | #topic generic NFS online extend | 14:40 |
* jungleboyj sneaks in late. | 14:40 | |
*** openstack changes topic to "generic NFS online extend (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:40 | |
rosmaita | lseki: you're up | 14:40 |
lseki | o/ | 14:40 |
lseki | so, currently generic NFS fails to extend an attached volume | 14:41 |
lseki | and I'm working on a fix that lets Nova do the actual extend operation | 14:41 |
lseki | the problem is: what if nova fails to do this extend operation | 14:41 |
lseki | the volume would remain with the original size, but the volume size would get inconsistent in Cinder DB | 14:42 |
lseki | Lee Yarwood from Nova proj told that Nova creates an action | 14:42 |
lseki | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/49c3ac7dfa7aca5504f9d19958ff82a40e47f5a1/nova/compute/api.py#L5316-L5323 | 14:42 |
lseki | which Cinder could poll for, to check if it succeeded or not | 14:43 |
lseki | I'm not familiar with polling Nova things from Cinder | 14:43 |
lseki | so I'd like to know if there's a similar code that I could take as an example | 14:43 |
smcginnis | We generally don't. We don't want to have tight coupling with Nova, as much as possible. | 14:44 |
eharney | i'm not sure that cinder currently has any code that consumes events from nova | 14:44 |
eharney | we do have code to trigger events there in the other direction, presumably doing this would use a similar infrastructure | 14:45 |
whoami-rajat | i think we do some sort of polling for snapshot of attached volumes? | 14:47 |
eharney | in that case, nova updates a value that cinder can see in the db, we don't have to poll nova | 14:48 |
rosmaita | can we do the same thing here? | 14:49 |
rosmaita | i am not familiar with that code | 14:49 |
eharney | we shouldn't copy the way the snapshot update happens, because it's a hacky mess | 14:50 |
eharney | would probably be easier to just the nova events API | 14:50 |
rosmaita | ok, i am anti-hacky-mess | 14:50 |
whoami-rajat | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/remotefs.py#L1677-L1721 | 14:51 |
eharney | in this case, what is it we're waiting for nova to do exactly? | 14:52 |
whoami-rajat | but as Eric said, we should do the it optimally | 14:52 |
eharney | i guess libvirt is just extending the file | 14:53 |
LiangFang | lseki: could we let cinder give nova a callback, when nova finished, it call callback, and the cinder update DB? need to let nova handle callback | 14:53 |
lseki | hmm do Cinder & Nova have such callback mechanism? | 14:55 |
whoami-rajat | eharney, waiting for the blockRebase or blockCommit to complete? i think it updates a field in snapshot (progress) to 90 when it completes | 14:55 |
eharney | whoami-rajat: that's for snapshots, not for extend | 14:55 |
whoami-rajat | eharney, oh, i thought you asked for snapshots case, my bad | 14:56 |
rosmaita | lseki: can you map out how you see this working on an etherpad or something, and we can discuss more next week? (you can send something to the ML when your etherpad is up, and we can look earlier and all be ready for a discussion) | 14:56 |
eharney | please test whether this works with encryption and whether it works with volumes attached to instances that are shutoff | 14:56 |
rosmaita | sounds like on the nova side, lyarwood at least is in favor of polling the server actions API | 14:56 |
eharney | iirc the encryption case is already known to have problems | 14:57 |
lseki | rosmaita: sure, I will write the alternatives | 14:57 |
rosmaita | lseki: the extend is initiated from the cinder side, is that correct? | 14:57 |
rosmaita | so we could reject unsupported configurations | 14:58 |
lseki | rosmaita: correct | 14:58 |
rosmaita | ok, that sounds good | 14:59 |
rosmaita | sorry everyone, looks like we are out of time for open discussion | 14:59 |
whoami-rajat | thanks! | 14:59 |
rosmaita | feel free to talk in #openstack-cinder if you have something on your mind | 14:59 |
LiangFang | I rememer resize is initiate from Nova, extend volume is initiate from cinder | 14:59 |
lseki | ty folks! | 14:59 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 5 14:59:53 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-08-05-14.00.html | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-08-05-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-08-05-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 5 15:00:47 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:00 |
e0ne | hi | 15:00 |
vishalmanchanda | hi | 15:01 |
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e0ne | vishalmanchanda: let's wait few minutes more | 15:02 |
amotoki | hi, beer time :) | 15:02 |
vishalmanchanda | sure. | 15:02 |
e0ne | amotoki: you're lucky enough. it's too early for beer for me | 15:02 |
vishalmanchanda | 🙂 | 15:03 |
amotoki | I'm off today, so it is not surprising even if I have beer in your time :p | 15:03 |
e0ne | ok. let's start | 15:04 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: Do we have mid-cycle meeting? | 15:04 |
e0ne | #topic virtual mid-cycle | 15:04 |
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e0ne | we've got a very few responses in the poll | 15:05 |
e0ne | https://doodle.com/poll/dkmsai49v4zzpca2 | 15:05 |
e0ne | so I don't I'm not sure what to do | 15:06 |
e0ne | it's up to you to decide | 15:06 |
e0ne | do we want to have it this week or move later this cycle? | 15:07 |
amotoki | I just added my vote for case we have it this week | 15:08 |
vishalmanchanda | We can do it tomorrow | 15:09 |
e0ne | looks like tomorrow it the best date for everybody | 15:09 |
e0ne | we can do a call tomorrow to catch-up current release priorities | 15:11 |
vishalmanchanda | cool. | 15:11 |
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e0ne | amotoki: what about you? | 15:11 |
amotoki | I am okay with tomorrow | 15:12 |
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e0ne | good. I'll send an update to the mailing list once I'll manage what software will we use | 15:12 |
vishalmanchanda | at 13 UTC. | 15:12 |
amotoki | which time slots? 3UTC or 13UTC? | 15:13 |
e0ne | 13.00 UTC | 15:13 |
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e0ne | it got more positive votes | 15:13 |
amotoki | sounds good. I haven't checked vote result. | 15:14 |
e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:16 |
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e0ne | I'm skipping updates because there are no updates from me | 15:16 |
e0ne | and Victoria priorities will be discussed tomorrow | 15:17 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: Could you take a look at this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734161/ | 15:17 |
vishalmanchanda | Ivan already voted. | 15:17 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: sure but you need to keep in mind that I am off this week | 15:18 |
vishalmanchanda | Let me know if any concern about this patch. I will try to fix asap. | 15:18 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: yeah. | 15:18 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: amotoki : Also i need your attention on this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ | 15:19 |
vishalmanchanda | Please see my comment on P.S 15 | 15:20 |
vishalmanchanda | sorry:(. | 15:20 |
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vishalmanchanda | It is already fixed. | 15:21 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: according to docstring. here is a good example: https://sphinxcontrib-napoleon.readthedocs.io/en/latest/example_google.html | 15:21 |
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e0ne | vishalmanchanda: and here is a pep: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/ | 15:22 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: thanks for the link i will take a look. | 15:22 |
vishalmanchanda | Actually I have left some comments on P.S 18 for this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ | 15:23 |
vishalmanchanda | I am referring this situation https://pasteboard.co/JkaA9tX.png | 15:23 |
vishalmanchanda | We have fix this in plugins as well. | 15:24 |
vishalmanchanda | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/18/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/admin/volume_types/forms.py@133 | 15:24 |
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e0ne | sorry, I didn't get what do you mean | 15:25 |
vishalmanchanda | I am trying to say we have to change this https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/admin/volume_types/forms.py#L132 | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | exceptions.handle( | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | request, _('Unable to create encrypted volume | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | type.'), redirect= redirect) | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | basically removes ex from here otherwise it looks like this https://pasteboard.co/JkaA9tX.png | 15:29 |
e0ne | yep, we need to remove it | 15:30 |
vishalmanchanda | yeah that's what i am trying to say. | 15:30 |
e0ne | and probably, we have to it in plugins too:) | 15:30 |
e0ne | :( | 15:30 |
vishalmanchanda | We have to do similar changes in plugins | 15:30 |
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e0ne | vishalmanchanda: now I understand your comment | 15:31 |
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vishalmanchanda | So we need be very careful about this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708069/ | 15:33 |
vishalmanchanda | I mean when to merge it. | 15:33 |
e0ne | +1 | 15:33 |
vishalmanchanda | because let's say if we merge it in horizon for Victoria cycle then we need to same changes for plugins in the same cycle otherwise it looks ugly. | 15:34 |
e0ne | how many plugins are affected? | 15:36 |
vishalmanchanda | I have not checked it yet | 15:36 |
e0ne | it could be a blocker | 15:36 |
vishalmanchanda | but we have around 30 horizon plugins. I hope changes should be less. | 15:37 |
e0ne | e.g. if we need to fix only 3-5 plugins - we can do it fast | 15:37 |
e0ne | if we have to fix 10-15+ plugins - it will be painful | 15:37 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: ok I will check after the meeting . | 15:38 |
e0ne | thanks | 15:38 |
vishalmanchanda | In that case we also need to send a mail on open-discuss about this change. | 15:38 |
amotoki | we might check a caller in exceptions.handle() and determine if the new feature shoudl be enabled. | 15:38 |
e0ne | amotoki: it could be a pretty good workaround | 15:39 |
amotoki | we can disable it until we complete a plugin supports it (i means we need to drop exception messages from the base message) | 15:39 |
amotoki | another question: do we want to cover JS messages in this bp? | 15:40 |
vishalmanchanda | sounds good. | 15:40 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: TBH I haven't thought of it yet. | 15:41 |
vishalmanchanda | but we can take a look. | 15:41 |
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amotoki | regardless of whether we cover JS side soon or not, we need to take it into account for consistency. | 15:43 |
e0ne | amotoki: JS side will be good too | 15:43 |
amotoki | e0ne: what do you mean by "good"? | 15:44 |
e0ne | I don't want to have more feature gaps between django and angular-based views | 15:44 |
e0ne | amotoki: I mean it would be great to have it in | 15:44 |
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amotoki | e0ne: got it. we are in a same page | 15:45 |
e0ne | :) | 15:45 |
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vishalmanchanda | then I will check how to cover Js/angular sides as well. | 15:45 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: thank you, Vishal! | 15:47 |
vishalmanchanda | e0ne: yw. | 15:47 |
e0ne | we've got 10 minutes more | 15:50 |
vishalmanchanda | I have noting more to discuss. | 15:51 |
amotoki | me either | 15:52 |
e0ne | thanks everybody for your contributions! see you tomorrow! | 15:53 |
vishalmanchanda | bye. | 15:54 |
amotoki | bye | 15:54 |
e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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