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| stevthedev | Hellllloooooo | 15:05 |
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| knikolla | #startmeeting keystone | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 25 16:59:03 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:59 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 16:59 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:59 |
| knikolla | how's everyone? | 17:00 |
| vishakha | good. How are you? | 17:01 |
| cmurphy | pretty good | 17:01 |
| knikolla | can't complain. | 17:03 |
| knikolla | i'll give it a few more minutes to see if we have some form of quorum. | 17:03 |
| rafaelweingartne | ok | 17:04 |
| knikolla | hi rafaelweingartne. thanks for joining us and for the feature proposals. | 17:04 |
| rafaelweingartne | Welcome :). I will try to be more present in the future | 17:06 |
| knikolla | I think we can get started for now | 17:07 |
| knikolla | #topic Code Reviews | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code Reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:08 | |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne has proposed https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1887515 | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1887515 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "[RFE] Keystone to honor the "domain" attribute mapping rules" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rafael Weingartner (rafaelweingartner) | 17:08 |
| knikolla | to have keystone honor the domain specified in the mapping rules | 17:09 |
| vishakha | I have some requests too #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/737225/ | 17:10 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746451/ | 17:10 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745112/ | 17:10 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745376/ | 17:10 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657039/ | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 17:10 |
| knikolla | cmurphy: lbragstad: with regards to https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1887515 do you think it warrants a spec? | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1887515 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "[RFE] Keystone to honor the "domain" attribute mapping rules" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rafael Weingartner (rafaelweingartner) | 17:11 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: i lean toward yes since it's an API change | 17:12 |
| rafaelweingartne | that was my doubt, sometimes I am not sure if things need a spec or not. Therefore, I normally propose the RFE, and wait for the community to decide. | 17:12 |
| rafaelweingartne | The API is not actually changing, but the way we handle the attribute mapping extensions | 17:12 |
| rafaelweingartne | A new parameter is being introduced. If we consider that an API, then, yes, it is changing | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | ohh changing the api behavior is even more worth a spec | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 17:14 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is why I introduced the parameter | 17:14 |
| cmurphy | introducing a configuration option on the backend that changes the api behavior is problematic | 17:14 |
| rafaelweingartne | the behavior does not change by default, only if the schema is updated to 1.1 that it would change | 17:14 |
| cmurphy | the user needs some way to know what the behavior will be without knowing how the operator has configured the server | 17:15 |
| rafaelweingartne | I thought that only operators would add IdPs in OpenStack | 17:15 |
| rafaelweingartne | since that we need to change configs in Keystone anyways | 17:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | such as the Apache's webproxy configurations | 17:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | it is not something that a comon user can do | 17:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | common/normal | 17:17 |
| knikolla | yes, that is true | 17:18 |
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| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: i would still like to see a spec, since they provide better visibility into the direction the project is taking as opposed to RFEs in bugs. | 17:20 |
| rafaelweingartne | no problem, I can create one | 17:20 |
| rafaelweingartne | if you guys think that the RFE can be approved | 17:20 |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: it does make sense to me | 17:21 |
| knikolla | and provides better consistency across how we handle domain in mappings | 17:21 |
| knikolla | could you create a spec for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742235/ as well? | 17:21 |
| rafaelweingartne | aha, you were faster | 17:22 |
| rafaelweingartne | I woudl bring this one to the table only later when moving on with this one | 17:22 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is the reason why I started working with a method to handle attribute mapping schema versions | 17:23 |
| rafaelweingartne | sure, I can create for that other one as well | 17:23 |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: the versioning makes total sense and is something we considered too. | 17:24 |
| knikolla | it is something i would lean more towards being in the mapping itself rather than a global config though. | 17:24 |
| rafaelweingartne | ah | 17:24 |
| rafaelweingartne | good idea | 17:24 |
| rafaelweingartne | ok, so how does that work. I mean, I create the specs and we discuss in the patch of the spec? Or, do we discuss them in the next meeting? | 17:25 |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: both are valid approaches, as long as the meeting discussion is also captured and written in the spec review. | 17:26 |
| rafaelweingartne | I see | 17:26 |
| knikolla | we are also late in this cycle for them to get approved for V. So they'd have to be pushed to W. | 17:27 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is fine by me | 17:27 |
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| knikolla | Assuming there are no strong objections with both specs, and the implementation is done, we can merge them pretty early on in the cycle. | 17:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | internally, we already have them in PROD, so now we would like to work with the community to upstream these nice things that we created | 17:28 |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: totally, always happy to have stuff flow upstream. | 17:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | sure, I will work on them in the next coming days | 17:28 |
| knikolla | i'd also love to hear what other needs you have with regards to federation going forward. | 17:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | a lot :) | 17:29 |
| knikolla | we have had very limited success engaging and gathering feedback. | 17:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | we have been fixing and patchign things in Kolla-ansible | 17:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | and now we started moving to the Keystone and Horizon patches | 17:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | We are managing our users just via identity federation, role assignments, projects, and so on. | 17:30 |
| rafaelweingartne | we do that to have a solid and centralized place for user managements, since we have much more than just OpenStack in our clients cloud | 17:31 |
| knikolla | i will definitely pick your brain | 17:31 |
| rafaelweingartne | just ping me, I am not normally on IRC, but you can drop me an email | 17:32 |
| knikolla | will do! thanks! | 17:32 |
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| knikolla | ok, looks like i have already reviewed most of the review requests, that's a first. | 17:37 |
| knikolla | i still haven't gotten to cmurphy's RBAC test series from last week, but i'm heavily caffeinated especially for that right now. | 17:37 |
| cmurphy | :) | 17:38 |
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| knikolla | #topic Bugs | 17:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:39 | |
| knikolla | Going through bugs... there doesn't seem to be anything worth bringing up in the meeting | 17:40 |
| knikolla | #topic Open Floor | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:40 | |
| knikolla | Somehow I had missed the email saying that the W release is called Wallaby | 17:41 |
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| rafaelweingartne | sorry, lost the internet connection | 17:42 |
| knikolla | rafaelweingartne: you didn't really miss anything. | 17:43 |
| knikolla | no worries | 17:43 |
| knikolla | alright, thanks for coming everyone. :) | 17:44 |
| knikolla | #endmeeting | 17:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 25 17:44:30 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-08-25-16.59.html | 17:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-08-25-16.59.txt | 17:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-08-25-16.59.log.html | 17:44 |
| vishakha | thanks knikolla | 17:44 |
| rafaelweingartne | thanks knikolla | 17:46 |
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