Thursday, 2020-09-03

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dviroel#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  3 15:00:10 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dviroel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
tbarronhi!15:00
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carlosso/15:00
vharihello!15:00
dviroelcourtesy ping: ganso vkmc dviroel lseki andrebeltrami felipe_rodrigues15:00
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andrebeltramihello15:01
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dviroelhi all o/15:01
dviroelthank you for joining, and as you might know, our PTL took some days off this week15:02
dviroellets start with our agenda15:02
tbarronslacker15:02
dviroel#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:02
dviroel#topic Announcements15:02
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dviroelFeature Freeze in 1 week from now15:03
dviroel#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html (victoria release schedule)15:03
dviroelthis means that we expect to have all proposed features reviewed and merged until next Thursday15:03
dviroelalso in this day is when we request our client libraries releases15:04
dviroeli would like to discuss about our reviews in a bit, in another topic15:05
dviroelnext announcement: Wallaby schedule has been updated with Manila deadlines15:05
dviroel#link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html (wallaby release schedule)15:05
dviroelas you can see, we already have our deadlines for the next release15:06
dviroelso i want to ask you all to take a look on that schedule15:06
dviroeland raise your concerns about it, if any, with gouthamr until the PTG (Oct 26)15:07
dviroelit seems that we have a spec freeze christmas edition this time15:07
dviroel:)15:08
lseki🎅15:08
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dviroellseki: you should be on vacation too :P15:08
lsekiI am15:08
tbarronlseki++15:08
dviroelso, thats what I have for now for announcements15:09
dviroelanyone has any announcement for today?15:09
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dviroelok, moving on..15:10
dviroel#topic Recap: Collaborative review meeting for Victoria release15:10
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dviroel#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016873.html (Victoria Collab Review email thread)15:10
dviroelas it was mentioned in the last meeting, we had our first collaborative review meeting for the Victoria cycle last Tuesday (Sep 1st)15:11
dviroelimo it was a very productive meeting15:11
dviroelthat took longer than expected (sorry about that)15:12
dviroelin this meeting, we went through the code of the proposed Share Server Migration feature15:12
tbarronI am glad it went well and am sorry that I got pulled out of it part way through.15:12
dviroeltbarron: np, we know that is complicated to fit a 2h meeting in any schedule15:13
dviroelwe also did a quick demo of this feature15:13
dviroelif you missed, you still can watch the recording that was published in the Manila channel15:14
dviroel#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIhHVKPTx415:14
dviroel3 hours of fun15:14
dviroeland we were also taking notes in the meeting etherpad15:15
dviroel#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-victoria-collab-review (victoria collab review etherpad)15:15
tbarronthe scene with the sharks and snakes is at 2:3715:15
carlosshaha15:15
dviroelwe also have a Q&A session in this etherpad that you folks can still use to add new questions15:16
dviroelwe are always taking a look at this etherpad15:16
dviroelI would like to thank everybody that attended to the meeting,it was great to share with you this feature that we have been working15:17
dviroelok, next topic15:18
dviroel#topic Reviews needing attention15:18
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dviroelhere is our review focus etherpad15:19
dviroel#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus (review focus ether pad)15:19
dviroellets go through each feature again and talk a little about them15:19
dviroeland as mentioned before, we are 1 week away from Feature Freeze and client releases, so I would like to have your attention on this patches during this week15:20
dviroelok first one is15:20
dviroelShare Server Migration15:20
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/share-server-migration+(status:open)15:20
dviroelno surprises, this is the one that we have been discussing in the collab meeting15:21
tbarronHave you reached out for reviewers who have back ends that could use this feature?15:21
dviroeltbarron: no until now15:21
tbarronThat is my main concern.  It hopefully won't be only netapp and container and dummy driver forever.15:21
dviroeli believe that at this moment, Dell can also benefit from this feature15:22
dviroelsince they still have active members in the community15:22
tbarronAgree.  But they should be reviewing at least the core code.15:22
tbarronGoutham and I have a NetApp persoective on it given our backgrounds.15:23
dviroelyes, for sure would be interesting to have other drivers perspective on that too15:24
dviroelsomething that we don't have noe15:24
dviroelwe can tag them in the patch or try to reach them on irc/mail15:24
tbarrondviroel++15:24
dviroelfor now, we have gouthamr reviewing some patches, like core and client15:25
dviroelfor this one we also have a state diagram to help us identify all these state changes15:25
dviroelthat is in-progress since it can be changed due to implementation changes15:25
dviroel#link https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15b8AAjXTMoikyTdOevwOFTrxMyBF8We1qY8IuCwAv0w/edit15:26
dviroellet me know if you can access the document15:26
tbarrondviroel: I can, and thanks for sharing it15:26
dviroeltks15:26
dviroelso again, if you want to help on this review, add your name to etherpad :)15:27
tbarrondviroel: I can help review but there's a lot of code and I am on PTO and offline after this meeting till next Wednesday15:27
tbarronI'm OK with extending deadlines if we need to15:27
dviroeltbarron: ok, tks. Yes, since its a lot of code, we may need a extension, but we'll try as we can to get it merged next week15:28
tbarronReally would like Dell-EMC to take a look if only from the perspective - is it good enought in core and client that15:28
tbarronwe can wor with thhis in the future?15:28
dviroeltbarron: sure, something that really make a difference on reviews15:29
dviroeldifferent perspectives15:29
dviroelin the same line we have this one: [NetApp] Add support for share server migration15:29
dviroelthis is the 3rd party driver implementation of the share server migration feature15:29
dviroelit is in a different bullet since it will not block the core patch to be merged, but at this moment we don't have any reviewers for that one too15:30
dviroeland also has a lot of code to be reviewed15:30
dviroeli believe that carloss can help us on this review too15:31
tbarronI put my name on that one15:31
dviroeltbarron: tks15:31
carlosssure dviroel15:31
dviroelfelipe_rodrigues is also helping on validating this implementation we I should upload a new PS with some small fixes15:31
dviroelnext is [NetApp] Enables configuring NFS transfer limits15:32
dviroelfelipe_rodrigues patch15:32
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746568/ ([NetApp] Enables configuring NFS transfer limits)15:32
dviroelit is a feature that uses scoped extra specs to configure transfer limits to share servers15:32
dviroeland I want to ask our attentions to this one15:32
dviroelsince it has conflicts with the previous Share Server Migration patch, for NetApp driver15:33
tbarronlooks like SAP wants this one and carthaca is reviewing?15:33
dviroeltbarron: yes! we already have some comments that are easy to fix15:33
tbarronkk15:33
tbarronThat's another source of valuable reviewers -- consumers of these features :D15:34
dviroeland would be good to merge this one first, in order to have time to fix the conflicts in the other one15:34
dviroeltbarron: i don't think so15:35
dviroelit would be great15:35
felipe_rodriguesfor sure, this patch configures servers, so migrating the servers would be affected by that..15:35
felipe_rodriguesthey may conflict15:36
dviroeland we can think on a way of bringing more reviewers15:36
dviroelwe know that we have at this moment lots of code to be reviewed and don't have too much reviewers to hold all that code15:36
dviroelwe need for sure try to bring more reviewers to our side15:37
dviroeloh, and this patch  also depends on a small 'fix' in the core, to enable share types to be provided to drivers at the moment that share servers are requested15:37
dviroelfelipe_rodrigues: ack15:37
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746361/(Add the share-type for the server setup metadata)15:38
dviroelthe correct link15:38
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746361/ (Add the share-type for the server setup metadata)15:38
dviroelok, next one15:39
dviroel[NetApp] Adding support for Adaptive QoS15:39
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dviroelone more that is driver feature15:39
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740532/ ([NetApp] Adding support for Adaptive QoS in NetApp driver with dhss false)15:39
dviroelthis one is an initial implementation of NetApp Adaptive QoS for NetApp driver15:40
dviroelwill probably receive new update in the next releases15:40
dviroelwe already have some reviews on this one and we expect to have some minor concerns solved until next week in order to merge it15:40
tbarronthis one has no impact outside netapp back end, right?15:41
dviroeltbarron: correct, it only uses scoped extra-specs15:41
dviroeland also reuse part of the code that we already have for qos15:42
dviroelI'm talking with Michael to help him to solve some issues that we might have with other operations rather than create/create from snapshot15:42
tbarronI am happy to help review it rather than pushing you to look for partner reviewers since I'm familiar with that back end.15:42
dviroelthanks tbarron, gouthamr already posted some concerns about this feature too15:43
dviroelwill be great to have your thoughts on this one too15:43
dviroeland the last one is: Graduate share replication feature15:44
dviroel#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/graduate-share-replication-feature+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:44
dviroelwe started graduating some features in the last release with share groups, and now its time for share replication15:44
dviroelthanks again carloss for your effort on this15:45
carlossdviroel: my plesure15:45
dviroelwill be good to have more eyes on this patch, so if you want to volunteer, please add your name to the etherpad15:45
dviroeltbarron: you added your name to this one too15:45
dviroelnot sure if you want to review this one, or the one above15:46
dviroel:)15:46
tbarronI think this is pretty much ready15:46
dviroelyes it is15:46
tbarrondidn't add it to -1 :D15:46
dviroelwill ask other reviewers to take a look on this one, andrebeltrami felipe_rodrigues15:47
andrebeltramiack15:47
felipe_rodriguesack15:47
dviroelwe can use the last patch for share group graduation to see if something is missing on this one15:47
dviroelthanks15:47
dviroelthat's what we have for now on reviews :)15:47
dviroelanything else on this topic?15:48
dviroelok15:48
dviroel#topic Bugs (vhari)15:49
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vhario/15:49
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/189371815:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1893718 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Fixed the logic that determines whether a share exists before manage a share" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to haixin (haixin77)15:49
vharilets take a quick look at this one -15:49
vharihaixin proposed a fx ..15:49
dviroeloh, so it seems that we already have a fix proposed15:49
dviroelyes15:50
vharineed to add importance and other fields15:50
dviroelsomething between low and medium15:50
carlossI'd say low15:51
vharik agreed15:51
carlossI have hit it myself but it was while I was testing the fix for another bug I'm helping to solve (https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1860061).15:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1860061 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Totalcount returned by pagination query is wrong and filters should before pagination query " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to MaAoyu (maaoyu)15:51
dviroelcarloss: is there a conflict between those fixes?15:52
carlossyep15:52
dviroeli'm ok with low too15:52
vharidone .. next up15:52
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/158524115:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1585241 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "File-based locks don't provide concurrency over multi-node/multi-AZ deployments" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:52
vharilooping this back out since target is victoria rc115:53
dviroelyes, gouthamr tag it for victoria rc1 some time ago15:53
dviroeldon't remember to see any patch related so far15:53
tbarronit's pretty important, might ought to be a ptg topic15:54
dviroelthis is something that we might need for active/active too15:54
tbarronit's easy to say we should use dlm for this and active/active15:54
tbarronbut that puts responsibility on deployers15:54
tbarronso it's a bit of a wave our hands at the problem approach15:55
tbarronnot saying it's wrong, just that it's hard to actually solve for real deployments15:55
tbarronbut we could fix it in devstack pretty easily15:55
dviroeltbarron: this is for sure a good topic for our PTG15:56
tbarronvhari: anayways, we can't just time this one out and make it go away15:56
vharitbarron, ack15:56
dviroelI am also interested on this15:56
dviroelok, we are a little out of time15:57
vharik, will keep it on the list15:58
dviroelvhari: tks!15:58
vharidviroel, yw15:58
vharithat's a wrap for bugs15:58
dviroeltks, moving on15:58
dviroel#topic Open Discussion15:58
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dviroelwe have 2 min for it15:58
dviroel:)15:59
dviroelok, thanks everyone for attending15:59
vharidviroel++15:59
dviroellets try to focus on reviewing code this week15:59
andrebeltramidviroel++15:59
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dviroelsee you all on #openstack-manila15:59
dviroel#endmeeting16:00
carlossdviroel ++16:00
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tbarrondviroel++ ty!16:00
dviroelyw :)16:00
vkmcdviroel++16:00
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