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| ricolin | as there's no much work done since last meeting, let's not over take time to host new meeting for multi-arch SIG | 07:02 |
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| ricolin | feel free to join channel #openstack-multi-arch and raise any discussion | 07:02 |
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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 09:01:50 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
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| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:03 |
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| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:09 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 09:09:48 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-09-29-09.01.html | 09:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-09-29-09.01.txt | 09:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2020/blazar.2020-09-29-09.01.log.html | 09:09 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 15:00:21 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda | 15:00 |
| miniroy | so ocata no mas | 15:02 |
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| lamt | o/ | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:04 |
| sangeet | o/ | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | Not much on the agenda today so lets get started | 15:05 |
| lamt | didn't see IRC kicked me out of this channel and forgot to rejoin | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #topic OpenDev PTG | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev PTG (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-wallaby-ptg agenda | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | Just a reminder that the OpenDev PTG is in roughly a month | 15:05 |
| miniroy | \o | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | and to add topics there you wish to discuss | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | We have a 2 hour time slot on the 26th | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | #topic Open Discussion | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:07 | |
| gagehugo | Does anyone have anything they want to discuss this week? Or reviews they need? | 15:07 |
| miniroy | who normally attend this PTG? How is it run? | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | Usually it's an in-person thing, but since it's 2020, they've been virtual now | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | Anyone can attend, the meeting room will be public | 15:08 |
| miniroy | I see | 15:08 |
| sangeet | Is it IRC as well? | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | It will be either meetpad or zoom | 15:10 |
| sangeet | ok | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | All the PTG sessions will be those type of calls | 15:10 |
| miniroy | so basically to talk about things that typically don't get enough attention/eyeballs/attendance during regular weekly then? | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | Usually it's more discussions around the direction of the project and in-depth discussions about features | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | more in-depth than irc provides anyway | 15:12 |
| miniroy | That's fair, thanks | 15:12 |
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| gagehugo | You typically have more attendance as well | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | thanks everyone, have a good rest of the week | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 15:17:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-09-29-15.00.html | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-09-29-15.00.txt | 15:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-09-29-15.00.log.html | 15:17 |
| stevthedev | o/ Sorry I was late | 15:19 |
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| knikolla | #startmeeting keystone | 16:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 16:58:44 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:58 |
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| vishakha | o/ | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 17:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 17:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 17:00 |
| knikolla | hi all :) | 17:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:01 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: we can start with your topic | 17:02 |
| knikolla | #topic LDAP paging leaking memory | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LDAP paging leaking memory (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:02 | |
| lbragstad | knikolla sure | 17:02 |
| knikolla | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1896125 | 17:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1896125 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "LDAP paging leaks memory" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad) | 17:02 |
| lbragstad | ok | 17:02 |
| lbragstad | this might get long-winded | 17:02 |
| lbragstad | so, apology in advance | 17:03 |
| lbragstad | i've been splunking in keystone's LDAP for the last two weeks | 17:03 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: no worries, glad we have some technical subjects to discuss every once in a while :) | 17:03 |
| lbragstad | before i get into my thoughts, has anyone read or familiarized themselves with https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1896125 ? | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1896125 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "LDAP paging leaks memory" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad) | 17:03 |
| cmurphy | just finished reading it | 17:04 |
| knikolla | i think so, yes | 17:04 |
| lbragstad | in tracking that issue down, i found a bunch of things in the ldap implementation that i can't justify because i don't understand the reasoning behind them | 17:05 |
| lbragstad | and i can only make assumptions | 17:05 |
| lbragstad | the implementation itself seems quite heavy and indirect, increasing the complexity | 17:06 |
| lbragstad | and i think some of that complexity attributed to a non-pythonic design leading to the memory leak | 17:07 |
| knikolla | it is a mess | 17:08 |
| lbragstad | i have a list of code smells that i'd like to address, but it would require a non-trivial refactor | 17:08 |
| lbragstad | i've been thinking about what the redesign would look like for the last 4 days, and it's still not clear, so i think even coming up with a design would be non-trivial (at least for me) | 17:09 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: i was looking at more substantial work that we can target for wallaby, and this seems like a good candidate. i'd be happy to help out if you need additional hands. | 17:09 |
| lbragstad | ok - cool | 17:09 |
| lbragstad | i'd probably need to get sign off for it, since it's a lot of work | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | and it's not something i'm going to be able to swing on random nights | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | but - as a stop gap, i proposed a fix for the memory leak | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | and it just kinda goes with the flow of the current implementation | 17:10 |
| knikolla | ++ makes sense | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754488/ | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | without talking to the original author, this is my best guess at what they were trying to accomplish | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | i was also concerned about changing the interface between handlers | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | but - that argument kept pulling me into redesigning things outside the scope of the memory leak issue | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | my question is - how do people feel about the current proposal until we can (if we decide to do so) refactor the backend | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | full disclosure - i am looking to backport this | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | it affects releases all the way back to queens | 17:13 |
| knikolla | i haven't done an extensive review, but it seems pretty surgical so i am okay with it | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | backporting a bugfix is easier than backporting a refactor | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | it does use a new object instead of MsgId - so that i can hide how the context managers are handled | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | agreed | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | otherwise - it would look something like this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754488/1/keystone/identity/backends/ldap/common.py | 17:15 |
| knikolla | ++, the stopgap can be backported, but i think maybe not the refactor. | 17:15 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i don't want to backport a refactor | 17:15 |
| knikolla | so the two step approach makes sense | 17:15 |
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| lbragstad | ok - so folks are at least initially ok with this going into stable releases | 17:16 |
| lbragstad | obviously, you're allowed to change your mind after a more thorough review | 17:16 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: can i turn it around - why wouldn't it be okay for stable? | 17:17 |
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| lbragstad | well - it relies on a new object or an interface change between handlers | 17:17 |
| lbragstad | we treat them as internal bits.. but it's hard to say if anyone else is using that stuff | 17:17 |
| lbragstad | by internal, only the PooledLDAPHandler knows or cares about MsgId | 17:18 |
| lbragstad | the other implementations of LDAPHandlers don't know or care about it | 17:18 |
| lbragstad | and that made me think it was relatively safe to change | 17:18 |
| cmurphy | i think i'm okay with that, because this is all within the backend code, not changing the identity driver interface | 17:19 |
| lbragstad | ++ agreed | 17:19 |
| knikolla | ++ i don't see why someone would import common code from the ldap backend, to outside of it. | 17:19 |
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| lbragstad | anyone else have questions about the approach? | 17:21 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - i tried to provide a jdennis-esque commit message to help get what i found out of my head https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754488/3//COMMIT_MSG | 17:22 |
| cmurphy | :) | 17:22 |
| lbragstad | side note: the ldap backend is an absolutely trip to go through... | 17:23 |
| knikolla | thanks a lot for that. it made understanding the reasoning trivial. | 17:23 |
| knikolla | haha, it is indeed. | 17:23 |
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| knikolla | thanks lbragstad | 17:25 |
| knikolla | #topic Open Discussion | 17:25 |
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| cmurphy | i have a couple of easy reviews https://review.opendev.org/753857 https://review.opendev.org/753458 | 17:26 |
| knikolla | anything else anyone? | 17:31 |
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| knikolla | thanks all. | 17:39 |
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| knikolla | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 17:39:49 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-09-29-16.58.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-09-29-16.58.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-09-29-16.58.log.html | 17:39 |
| lbragstad | thanks knikolla | 17:40 |
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