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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder414:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 14:00:33 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder4'14:00
whoami-rajat___cinder4 ? :D14:00
rosmaitanooooo!!!!14:00
enriquetasohaha14:00
geguileocool name cinder4!!14:00
rosmaita#endmeeting14:00
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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 14:01:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
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enriquetaso\o/14:01
jungleboyjo/14:01
rajinirhi14:01
e0nehi14:01
enriquetasohi14:01
sfernandHi14:01
eharneyhi14:01
pots\o14:01
whoami-rajat___Hi14:01
walshh_hi14:01
geguileohi! o/14:01
smcginniso/14:01
jungleboyjpots !14:01
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings14:02
rosmaitagood turnout14:02
rosmaitaa lot on the agenda today, but it's mostly announcements14:02
TusharTgitehi14:02
rosmaita#topic announcements14:02
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rosmaitaok, next week starts wallaby!14:03
rosmaitaso we will have a new agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings14:03
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rosmaitaplease update your links14:03
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rosmaitaalso, the stable releases happened last week14:03
rosmaitathis is a reminder about the upgrade-to-ussuri bug that was fixed:14:04
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/017722.html14:04
rosmaitaok, next item is that we are going to have a cinder type-checking hackfest14:04
rosmaitahere's my proposal14:05
rosmaitawe celebrate the Victoria release by holding it 1300-1600 UTC Wednesday 14 October and skipping the cinder weekly meeting14:05
rosmaitaif that's ok with everyone, i won't do a poll14:05
enriquetaso++14:05
rosmaitaso it's a 3 hour block right around the cinder meeting time14:05
whoami-rajat___+114:06
lseki_+114:06
rosmaitai do have a question, though14:06
rosmaitado we want to do it in a video conference, or just on IRC?14:06
eharneyscreen sharing may be handy14:07
rosmaitaok, let's plan to at least start in video14:07
smcginnishttps://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YQfGEJjE0D0/Wn_t96fSqYI/AAAAAAAAMgQ/olcY9HDTbc4vhkdfoTbB6HrGr0CVls6vgCLcBGAs/s1600/why-not-both-animated-gif-7.gif14:08
TusharTgite+114:08
jungleboyj:-)14:08
rosmaitanext question ... we usually use bluejeans, but i happen to know that hasn't been working for eharney recently14:08
rosmaitasince you'd most likely do the screen sharing, what technology do you suggest eharney?14:09
smcginnisThere's the OpenDev Jitsi if we want to try that again.14:09
rosmaitamaybe we should try that14:09
rosmaitawe don't need to record this14:10
eharneytrying jitsi might be good, i can make bluejeans work again if i have to (i assume)14:10
jungleboyjeharney:  How are you working at RH without BlueJeans working?  ;-)14:11
rosmaitawe are flexible!14:11
eharneyusing my phone like a caveman14:11
jungleboyj:-)14:11
rosmaitathat's true, we are only flexible about the meetings that eharney himself runs14:11
rosmaitaeverything else is bluejeans14:11
rosmaitasorry about the delay here, i am trying to connect to meetpad14:12
rosmaitaok, let's go for meetpad/opendev jitsi ... i will send out connection info on the ML14:13
rosmaitaand also put it in the agenda etherpad14:13
rosmaitanext item is that the TC election is happening now14:14
rosmaitavote before 2020-10-13 23:45 UTC14:14
rosmaitayou should have an email with a customized link14:14
rosmaitaso i can't give you one here14:14
jungleboyj++14:14
rosmaitabut if you haven't seen the email, search in your spam folder14:14
* eharney is still looking for his email to vote14:14
rosmaitasubject: Poll: OpenStack Wallaby Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll14:14
rosmaitafrom: Jeremy Stanley (CIVS poll supervisor) <civs@cs.cornell.edu>14:15
rosmaitaand if you don't see anything, i don't think fungi will mind if you ping him directly14:15
rosmaitamy email is dated yesterday evening NY time14:16
rosmaitaok, now comes a list of upcoming events14:16
rosmaitaso, next week:14:16
rosmaitavictoria release and type-checking hackfest14:16
rosmaitaweek after that is summit/forum14:17
rosmaitaanyone here doing a summit presentation, please put a link on the agenda when you have a few minutes14:17
rosmaitawe have 2 forum sessions where it would be good for as many cinder people who can to attend14:17
rosmaitacinder forum session: monday 1230 UTC: https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24748/cinder-user-messages14:18
rosmaitacinder forum session: wednesday 1500 UTC: https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24749/cinder-third-party-ci-whats-in-it-for-you14:18
rosmaitaand don't forget to register for the summit if you haven't yet14:18
rosmaitaok, the week after the summit is the Wallaby PTG14:18
rosmaitathat's the week of 26 october14:18
rosmaitaput topics on the planning etherpad:14:19
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-cinder-planning14:19
rosmaitaand block off the cinder times on your calendar:14:19
rosmaitatuesday-friday at 1300-1600 UTC14:19
rosmaitaand that reminds me, did we want to do a "happy hour"?14:20
e0ne+114:20
jungleboyj+114:20
lseki_+114:20
rosmaitaok, looks like there's a groundswell of support14:21
whoami-rajat___+1 (i think we thought of doing at start of PTG this time)14:21
rosmaitawhoami-rajat___: right you are14:21
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whoami-rajat___for better introduction14:21
rosmaitaso is tuesday at 1500 UTC good for everyone?14:22
e0ne+114:22
rosmaitathat would be tuesday 27 october14:22
enriquetaso+114:22
sfernand+114:23
lseki_+114:23
TusharTgite+114:23
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jungleboyjI can make that work.14:23
enriquetasolseki_++14:24
rosmaitaok, i will propose that on the ML and if conflicts arise we can work it out in the planning etherpad14:24
rosmaitaso that's alll the events over the next 3 weeks14:24
rosmaitafor The Future:14:24
rosmaita30 november: Wallaby Milestone 114:24
rosmaita14 december: Cinder Spec Freeze14:25
rosmaitaM-1 seems alarmingly close, if you ask me14:25
rosmaitaok, that's all the announcements14:25
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rosmaitajust a reminder: anyone with a summit preso, please put it on the agenda etherpad14:26
rosmaita#topic RC-214:26
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rosmaitawe will be doing a second release candidate14:26
rosmaitamust be done tomorrow14:26
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-release-critical-patches14:26
rosmaitabasically there are two patches whose backport needs reviewing14:27
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756358/14:27
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756357/14:27
rosmaitathe gates were really slow the past few days, plus one of the tempest storage jobs was unstable14:28
rosmaitaso the situation with those patches is that they don't have a +1 from Zuul14:28
jungleboyjLooks like smcginnis got them already?14:28
rosmaitaok, nevermind14:29
smcginnisFeel free to take a look if you have time though.14:29
rosmaitathanks smcginnis14:29
potsthanks smcginnis and rosmaita for the help with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756357/14:29
rosmaitawell, if the gates cooperate, we should be ready for RC-2 tomorrow14:30
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* jungleboyj makes a sacrifice to the gate gods.14:30
smcginnis113 in check queue. I remember when deadline days would be well over 300+.14:31
rosmaitacheck back in a few hours!14:32
smcginnisHaha, right. ;)14:32
e0nesmcginnis: it's a usual number for this time of the day14:32
rosmaitathe patches in the check seem to sit longer than usual, or maybe it's a "watched pot never boils" kind of thing14:33
rosmaitaok, last scheduled topic14:33
rosmaita#topic HP Primera backend situation14:34
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rosmaitathis was raised by https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752934/14:34
raghavendrathi14:34
rosmaitahello14:34
rosmaitaso about 1 year ago, hpe added support for the Primera backend14:34
rosmaitajust for iscsi, i think?14:34
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rosmaitaand this patch adds it for FC14:35
fungirosmaita: indeed, i don't mind direct irc pings or e-mails14:35
raghavendratlast year, it was only for FC. now its for iSCSI14:35
rosmaitaok, sorry, i had it backwards14:35
smcginnisOur docs aren't super clear, but we do state "For example, if your company has two volume drivers in Cinder and they both use ISCSI and FibreChannel, you would need to have a CI that tests against four backends and reports the results for each backend, for every Cinder upstream patch"14:35
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smcginnisWe should clarify that to also be clear that even if it is the same driver, all supported backends that that driver supports also need to be running tests.14:36
rosmaitayou have identified the issue14:36
raghavendrathhmm. currently CI runs on 3PAR backend. not running on Primera14:37
rosmaitai thought that last year when the first patch merged, there was a primera CI test?14:37
raghavendrathowever we do perform manual testing on primera14:37
smcginnisIt needs to have automatic CI testing.14:37
raghavendratactually CI changed 8 months ago14:37
raghavendratmigration from zuul v2 to v3 (or something similar)14:38
rosmaitaok, i thought it might be something like that14:38
raghavendratmy colleague worked on CI migration14:38
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raghavendratregarding CI, i will provide updates on patch. any other query ?14:40
rosmaitais hpe committed to getting CI for both 3PAR and Primera for both iscsi and FC?14:41
raghavendratsorry. i am not CI expert. i need to check with my colleague.14:42
rosmaitaok14:43
rosmaitafor now, we probably don't want to merge that change14:43
raghavendratok.14:44
rosmaitalet's give you some time to get the CI together, and we can revisit in a few weeks14:44
lseki_raghavendrat: I downloaded and extracted the .tar.xz, and it's missing the cinder.conf file14:44
lseki_it's a nice to have, although it's possible to see which back ends are enabled looking at c-vol log14:44
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raghavendratsure. thanks14:45
rosmaitawell, a major issue is that it slows down reviewing if the info isn't easily available14:45
rosmaitaso raghavendrat it would be good for you to convey that message to your colleage14:46
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rosmaitaok, thank you14:46
rosmaita#topic  open discussion14:47
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raghavendratsorry, some network issue.14:50
rosmaitanp14:50
rosmaitalooks like no topics for discussion?14:50
TusharTgitehi14:50
rosmaitahello14:50
TusharTgitei'm planning to do a feature in the wallaby cycle so for that i have some question14:51
rosmaitaok14:52
TusharTgitethe is a limitation in volume multi attach . Retyping an in-use volume from a multiattach-capable type to a non-multiattach-capable type, or vice-versa, is not supported.14:52
TusharTgiteso it is possible to work on this14:52
smcginnisI seem to remember there being a very good reason not to allow that for in-use volumes.14:54
TusharTgiteif anyone can suggest some other thing apart from this if its not possible to do that will be helpfull for me14:54
whoami-rajat___I'm not an expert on this but this might have a lot of complications when the in-use volume is actually mutliattached to multiple instances or a read/write operation is going on simultaneously14:54
smcginnisSo I guess a spec that goes through issues and how it would be addressed would be useful.14:55
lseki_hmm I can't imagine what's the expected behavior when a multi-attached volume is retyped to a non-multiattach volume type14:55
smcginnisIt may have had something to do with nova needing to know at attach time if a volume can be multiattach. So if it's in-use, that might not be changed.14:55
rosmaitawould be good to have a discussion at the PTG if you are interested in pursuing this14:55
TusharTgiteok, because in Victoria cycle I've only do doc patches so I'm looking for a feature item in upcoming cycle.14:57
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smcginnisThe best features to implement are ones that users are actually asking for. I don't have a list or anything, but if there is a specific need for something identified, that makes it much more likely to get attention and get changes in.14:58
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rosmaitaeharney has proposed a spec for "reset state robustification"14:59
rosmaitathat might be good to work on14:59
rosmaitahttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/682456/14:59
smcginnis++14:59
eharneyyes14:59
smcginnis<1 minute left14:59
rosmaitaTusharTgite: take a look at that patch and see if you're interested14:59
jungleboyjThe multi-attach would be an interesting discussion.14:59
rosmaitawe can discuss at the PTG if you need more details15:00
jungleboyjLots of landmines there though.15:00
rosmaitaok, out of time15:00
rosmaitathanks everyone!15:00
whoami-rajat___Thanks!15:00
TusharTgiteok i'll look into that patch15:00
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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jungleboyjThanks.15:00
rosmaitaTusharTgite: and if you are still interested the multiattach issue, could be worth talking about at the PTG15:01
e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 15:01:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:01
vishalmanchandahi15:01
e0nehi15:01
rdopierahi15:03
amotokihi15:04
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e0nelet's start15:05
e0ne#topic Notices15:05
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e0neTC election started15:07
e0neyou can find a mail from Jeremy Stanley <civs@cs.cornell.edu> to get a link for the poll15:07
e0nesubject: Poll: OpenStack Wallaby Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll15:07
e0neevery link is unique, so it was sent personally each contributor15:08
e0neOpenStack Victoria will be released next week https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html #link15:09
e0nenothing special for horizon, just for you info.15:10
fungifeel free to let me know if you have any questions too15:10
amotokie0ne: will you cut another horizon release this week to include the latest translation?15:10
e0neamotoki: do we need to do it this week?15:11
e0neIMO, it's better to do it early next week (Mon or Tue)15:11
amotokie0ne: we usually did it, so I asked it.15:11
amotokiI haven't checked when was our last release.15:11
amotokidid it happen last week?15:12
e0neit was done 12 days ago15:12
e0netomorrow is Hard StringFreeze, that's why my proposal is to wait a bit more for translations15:13
amotokibut this week is for the last release.15:14
amotokinext week is for the release team and it is not recommended to cut a release next week.15:14
amotokiAccording to the schedule, HardStringFreeze was the week of Sep 2515:15
amotokithis week is "Final RCs and intermediary releases"15:16
e0neamotoki: I mixed up everything:(15:16
e0neamotoki: you're right, let's cut a new release tomorrow15:16
amotoki+115:17
amotokithe version would be 18.6.115:18
e0neit would be good to have this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756452/ merged too, but it's not merged in master yet15:18
e0nebut it's not a release blocker for sure15:19
e0nedo we have anything else Victoria-specific?15:21
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amotokinothing from me15:23
vishalmanchandanothing from my side.15:23
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e0neok, let's move to the next topic15:24
e0ne#topic Open Discussion15:24
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e0nedoes anybody want talk about something?15:24
vishalmanchandaI have a topic to discuss15:25
vishalmanchandaI was just going through our feature-gap etherpad and selecting which feature I can target for next cycle.15:26
e0nevishalmanchanda: go ahaed15:26
vishalmanchandaI have shortlisted a few like quotas per volume type https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660567( I will review it)15:26
vishalmanchanda2. multi-backend support or glance(Experimental ATM in glance)15:27
vishalmanchanda3. floating IP port forwarding(neutron)15:27
vishalmanchanda4. backups management for admin(easy and good to have it from operator POV)15:27
vishalmanchandaI want to know your opinion.15:28
vishalmanchandaIs it worth?15:28
vishalmanchandahttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap15:29
e0neI'll be happy with any new feature15:29
vishalmanchandaIf anyone have some other good feature that good to have in horizon I also want to hear about them as well.15:30
amotokiI am happy with any new features but I have no opinion on them at the moment because I haven't identified how many common topics which are more important than them we have.15:30
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e0neamotoki: +115:32
vishalmanchandahmm.15:32
amotokigenerally speaking, user-facing features are preferred.15:33
e0ne+215:33
amotokiadmin/operators tend to script or automate their tasks rather than GUI.15:33
e0nethat's the whole idea of horizon :)15:33
vishalmanchandayeah.15:34
amotokibefore discussing which one/two should be selected, don't we need to check and refersh the etherpad?15:35
amotokiI am not sure all listed there match the current status.15:35
vishalmanchandayeah because many of them already completed15:36
amotokipersonally we should close feature gaps in Angular Launch Instance form15:36
amotokiit is not a good idea to manitain two types of the launch instance form for long.15:36
e0ne #action team to check https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap and update it if needed15:37
e0ne#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap15:37
vishalmanchandaamotoki: Ok I will check if I can pick any of  feature from Angular Launch Instance form.15:40
e0nevishalmanchanda: thanks15:40
amotokivishalmanchanda: I believe tmazur can help closing them too.15:40
tmazurI can help, yes15:41
vishalmanchandaamotoki: yeah because I haven't explore that part of code so much.15:41
vishalmanchandaamotoki: Also last time when I checked it's low priority for horizon.15:41
vishalmanchandatmazur: thanks:)15:41
amotokivishalmanchanda: it would be a good chance to explore such areas.15:41
amotokivishalmanchanda: regarding the priority, Angular Laucnh instance form is our default so it should be prioritized.15:42
amotokivishalmanchanda: what we discussed is about the priorities of new migrations to Angular.15:43
amotokivishalmanchanda: hope it clarifies the situation15:43
vishalmanchandaamotoki: +1.15:44
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vishalmanchandathat's all from my side.15:45
e0neI've got one more topic to dicsuss15:45
e0neand I'm sure 15 minutes is not enough for it15:45
e0nebut I would like to talk about mypy in horizon15:46
e0ne#link http://mypy-lang.org/15:46
e0nesince we don't support python2 anymore, we. can go forward with it15:46
e0neI don't want to propose dozens of patches with it15:47
e0nebut I think it would be useful for our internal and public,plugin-related, APIs15:47
amotokigenerally speaking, it would be useful15:49
e0nemy idea is do it step-by-step with other code changes15:49
e0neat least, we need some infrastructure for it: tox env, config, job15:50
e0neif nobody argues on it, I'll propose patches soon15:50
e0neand we can discus them in gerrit and/or PTG15:51
tmazurlet's discuss it at PTG maybe?15:51
vishalmanchandaI can see other project also using it like nova.15:51
amotokie0ne: what is the difference between mypy and type hints in python native https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html15:51
amotoki?15:51
tmazuramotoki: +115:52
e0neamotoki: frankly speaking eking, we need  type hits15:52
e0nemypy was introduced before type hints were merged into the python core15:52
e0nebut people still uses 'mypy' naming more widly15:53
e0neat least people I know15:53
amotokitype hints is just a hint and python runtime does not enforce it.15:53
e0neyep15:54
amotokidoes mypy provide static check?15:54
e0neit's used on CI and durine development15:54
amotokiif so it is an additional merit.15:54
e0neyes, nothing changes in a runtime15:55
e0ne#link https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0484/15:56
e0ne"The proposal is strongly inspired by mypy [mypy]."15:56
e0nemypy woks for python 2, but I really don't care on it15:56
e0neand I do understand that backports will be more complicated15:56
amotokiwe will have two releases with python3 only, so it might be a good timing to start this kind of discussions.15:58
amotokiI mean Ussuri and Victoria.15:59
e0nethat's why I didn't propose to do it in Victoria15:59
amotoki:)15:59
amotokiI have one thing to share before closing the meeting.15:59
amotokiI have one thing to share before closing the meeting. I added "Feature Removals" in Wallaby to our etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-release-priorities  Feel free to add any if you have/notice.15:59
e0neamotoki: good idea! it will help us with releases and release notes16:00
amotokiI would like to have such changes in the first release for Wallaby.16:00
e0ne+116:00
e0newe're out of time16:02
e0nethanks for your contributions!16:02
e0newe can continue our discussion in #openstack-horizon16:02
e0ne#endmeeting16:02
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sangeetPlease review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756352 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756375 .. these are to upgrade kubernetes to 1.18.9 version20:45
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