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rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder4 | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 14:00:33 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder4)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder4' | 14:00 |
whoami-rajat___ | cinder4 ? :D | 14:00 |
rosmaita | nooooo!!!! | 14:00 |
enriquetaso | haha | 14:00 |
geguileo | cool name cinder4!! | 14:00 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 14:00:51 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder4/2020/cinder4.2020-10-07-14.00.html | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder4/2020/cinder4.2020-10-07-14.00.txt | 14:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder4/2020/cinder4.2020-10-07-14.00.log.html | 14:00 |
rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 14:01:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:01 |
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enriquetaso | \o/ | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
rajinir | hi | 14:01 |
e0ne | hi | 14:01 |
enriquetaso | hi | 14:01 |
sfernand | Hi | 14:01 |
eharney | hi | 14:01 |
pots | \o | 14:01 |
whoami-rajat___ | Hi | 14:01 |
walshh_ | hi | 14:01 |
geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:01 |
smcginnis | o/ | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | pots ! | 14:01 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings | 14:02 |
rosmaita | good turnout | 14:02 |
rosmaita | a lot on the agenda today, but it's mostly announcements | 14:02 |
TusharTgite | hi | 14:02 |
rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
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rosmaita | ok, next week starts wallaby! | 14:03 |
rosmaita | so we will have a new agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings | 14:03 |
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rosmaita | please update your links | 14:03 |
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rosmaita | also, the stable releases happened last week | 14:03 |
rosmaita | this is a reminder about the upgrade-to-ussuri bug that was fixed: | 14:04 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/017722.html | 14:04 |
rosmaita | ok, next item is that we are going to have a cinder type-checking hackfest | 14:04 |
rosmaita | here's my proposal | 14:05 |
rosmaita | we celebrate the Victoria release by holding it 1300-1600 UTC Wednesday 14 October and skipping the cinder weekly meeting | 14:05 |
rosmaita | if that's ok with everyone, i won't do a poll | 14:05 |
enriquetaso | ++ | 14:05 |
rosmaita | so it's a 3 hour block right around the cinder meeting time | 14:05 |
whoami-rajat___ | +1 | 14:06 |
lseki_ | +1 | 14:06 |
rosmaita | i do have a question, though | 14:06 |
rosmaita | do we want to do it in a video conference, or just on IRC? | 14:06 |
eharney | screen sharing may be handy | 14:07 |
rosmaita | ok, let's plan to at least start in video | 14:07 |
smcginnis | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YQfGEJjE0D0/Wn_t96fSqYI/AAAAAAAAMgQ/olcY9HDTbc4vhkdfoTbB6HrGr0CVls6vgCLcBGAs/s1600/why-not-both-animated-gif-7.gif | 14:08 |
TusharTgite | +1 | 14:08 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 14:08 |
rosmaita | next question ... we usually use bluejeans, but i happen to know that hasn't been working for eharney recently | 14:08 |
rosmaita | since you'd most likely do the screen sharing, what technology do you suggest eharney? | 14:09 |
smcginnis | There's the OpenDev Jitsi if we want to try that again. | 14:09 |
rosmaita | maybe we should try that | 14:09 |
rosmaita | we don't need to record this | 14:10 |
eharney | trying jitsi might be good, i can make bluejeans work again if i have to (i assume) | 14:10 |
jungleboyj | eharney: How are you working at RH without BlueJeans working? ;-) | 14:11 |
rosmaita | we are flexible! | 14:11 |
eharney | using my phone like a caveman | 14:11 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 14:11 |
rosmaita | that's true, we are only flexible about the meetings that eharney himself runs | 14:11 |
rosmaita | everything else is bluejeans | 14:11 |
rosmaita | sorry about the delay here, i am trying to connect to meetpad | 14:12 |
rosmaita | ok, let's go for meetpad/opendev jitsi ... i will send out connection info on the ML | 14:13 |
rosmaita | and also put it in the agenda etherpad | 14:13 |
rosmaita | next item is that the TC election is happening now | 14:14 |
rosmaita | vote before 2020-10-13 23:45 UTC | 14:14 |
rosmaita | you should have an email with a customized link | 14:14 |
rosmaita | so i can't give you one here | 14:14 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 14:14 |
rosmaita | but if you haven't seen the email, search in your spam folder | 14:14 |
* eharney is still looking for his email to vote | 14:14 | |
rosmaita | subject: Poll: OpenStack Wallaby Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll | 14:14 |
rosmaita | from: Jeremy Stanley (CIVS poll supervisor) <civs@cs.cornell.edu> | 14:15 |
rosmaita | and if you don't see anything, i don't think fungi will mind if you ping him directly | 14:15 |
rosmaita | my email is dated yesterday evening NY time | 14:16 |
rosmaita | ok, now comes a list of upcoming events | 14:16 |
rosmaita | so, next week: | 14:16 |
rosmaita | victoria release and type-checking hackfest | 14:16 |
rosmaita | week after that is summit/forum | 14:17 |
rosmaita | anyone here doing a summit presentation, please put a link on the agenda when you have a few minutes | 14:17 |
rosmaita | we have 2 forum sessions where it would be good for as many cinder people who can to attend | 14:17 |
rosmaita | cinder forum session: monday 1230 UTC: https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24748/cinder-user-messages | 14:18 |
rosmaita | cinder forum session: wednesday 1500 UTC: https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24749/cinder-third-party-ci-whats-in-it-for-you | 14:18 |
rosmaita | and don't forget to register for the summit if you haven't yet | 14:18 |
rosmaita | ok, the week after the summit is the Wallaby PTG | 14:18 |
rosmaita | that's the week of 26 october | 14:18 |
rosmaita | put topics on the planning etherpad: | 14:19 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-cinder-planning | 14:19 |
rosmaita | and block off the cinder times on your calendar: | 14:19 |
rosmaita | tuesday-friday at 1300-1600 UTC | 14:19 |
rosmaita | and that reminds me, did we want to do a "happy hour"? | 14:20 |
e0ne | +1 | 14:20 |
jungleboyj | +1 | 14:20 |
lseki_ | +1 | 14:20 |
rosmaita | ok, looks like there's a groundswell of support | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat___ | +1 (i think we thought of doing at start of PTG this time) | 14:21 |
rosmaita | whoami-rajat___: right you are | 14:21 |
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whoami-rajat___ | for better introduction | 14:21 |
rosmaita | so is tuesday at 1500 UTC good for everyone? | 14:22 |
e0ne | +1 | 14:22 |
rosmaita | that would be tuesday 27 october | 14:22 |
enriquetaso | +1 | 14:22 |
sfernand | +1 | 14:23 |
lseki_ | +1 | 14:23 |
TusharTgite | +1 | 14:23 |
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jungleboyj | I can make that work. | 14:23 |
enriquetaso | lseki_++ | 14:24 |
rosmaita | ok, i will propose that on the ML and if conflicts arise we can work it out in the planning etherpad | 14:24 |
rosmaita | so that's alll the events over the next 3 weeks | 14:24 |
rosmaita | for The Future: | 14:24 |
rosmaita | 30 november: Wallaby Milestone 1 | 14:24 |
rosmaita | 14 december: Cinder Spec Freeze | 14:25 |
rosmaita | M-1 seems alarmingly close, if you ask me | 14:25 |
rosmaita | ok, that's all the announcements | 14:25 |
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rosmaita | just a reminder: anyone with a summit preso, please put it on the agenda etherpad | 14:26 |
rosmaita | #topic RC-2 | 14:26 |
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rosmaita | we will be doing a second release candidate | 14:26 |
rosmaita | must be done tomorrow | 14:26 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-release-critical-patches | 14:26 |
rosmaita | basically there are two patches whose backport needs reviewing | 14:27 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756358/ | 14:27 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756357/ | 14:27 |
rosmaita | the gates were really slow the past few days, plus one of the tempest storage jobs was unstable | 14:28 |
rosmaita | so the situation with those patches is that they don't have a +1 from Zuul | 14:28 |
jungleboyj | Looks like smcginnis got them already? | 14:28 |
rosmaita | ok, nevermind | 14:29 |
smcginnis | Feel free to take a look if you have time though. | 14:29 |
rosmaita | thanks smcginnis | 14:29 |
pots | thanks smcginnis and rosmaita for the help with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756357/ | 14:29 |
rosmaita | well, if the gates cooperate, we should be ready for RC-2 tomorrow | 14:30 |
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* jungleboyj makes a sacrifice to the gate gods. | 14:30 | |
smcginnis | 113 in check queue. I remember when deadline days would be well over 300+. | 14:31 |
rosmaita | check back in a few hours! | 14:32 |
smcginnis | Haha, right. ;) | 14:32 |
e0ne | smcginnis: it's a usual number for this time of the day | 14:32 |
rosmaita | the patches in the check seem to sit longer than usual, or maybe it's a "watched pot never boils" kind of thing | 14:33 |
rosmaita | ok, last scheduled topic | 14:33 |
rosmaita | #topic HP Primera backend situation | 14:34 |
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rosmaita | this was raised by https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752934/ | 14:34 |
raghavendrat | hi | 14:34 |
rosmaita | hello | 14:34 |
rosmaita | so about 1 year ago, hpe added support for the Primera backend | 14:34 |
rosmaita | just for iscsi, i think? | 14:34 |
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rosmaita | and this patch adds it for FC | 14:35 |
fungi | rosmaita: indeed, i don't mind direct irc pings or e-mails | 14:35 |
raghavendrat | last year, it was only for FC. now its for iSCSI | 14:35 |
rosmaita | ok, sorry, i had it backwards | 14:35 |
smcginnis | Our docs aren't super clear, but we do state "For example, if your company has two volume drivers in Cinder and they both use ISCSI and FibreChannel, you would need to have a CI that tests against four backends and reports the results for each backend, for every Cinder upstream patch" | 14:35 |
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smcginnis | We should clarify that to also be clear that even if it is the same driver, all supported backends that that driver supports also need to be running tests. | 14:36 |
rosmaita | you have identified the issue | 14:36 |
raghavendrat | hhmm. currently CI runs on 3PAR backend. not running on Primera | 14:37 |
rosmaita | i thought that last year when the first patch merged, there was a primera CI test? | 14:37 |
raghavendrat | however we do perform manual testing on primera | 14:37 |
smcginnis | It needs to have automatic CI testing. | 14:37 |
raghavendrat | actually CI changed 8 months ago | 14:37 |
raghavendrat | migration from zuul v2 to v3 (or something similar) | 14:38 |
rosmaita | ok, i thought it might be something like that | 14:38 |
raghavendrat | my colleague worked on CI migration | 14:38 |
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raghavendrat | regarding CI, i will provide updates on patch. any other query ? | 14:40 |
rosmaita | is hpe committed to getting CI for both 3PAR and Primera for both iscsi and FC? | 14:41 |
raghavendrat | sorry. i am not CI expert. i need to check with my colleague. | 14:42 |
rosmaita | ok | 14:43 |
rosmaita | for now, we probably don't want to merge that change | 14:43 |
raghavendrat | ok. | 14:44 |
rosmaita | let's give you some time to get the CI together, and we can revisit in a few weeks | 14:44 |
lseki_ | raghavendrat: I downloaded and extracted the .tar.xz, and it's missing the cinder.conf file | 14:44 |
lseki_ | it's a nice to have, although it's possible to see which back ends are enabled looking at c-vol log | 14:44 |
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raghavendrat | sure. thanks | 14:45 |
rosmaita | well, a major issue is that it slows down reviewing if the info isn't easily available | 14:45 |
rosmaita | so raghavendrat it would be good for you to convey that message to your colleage | 14:46 |
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rosmaita | ok, thank you | 14:46 |
rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:47 |
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raghavendrat | sorry, some network issue. | 14:50 |
rosmaita | np | 14:50 |
rosmaita | looks like no topics for discussion? | 14:50 |
TusharTgite | hi | 14:50 |
rosmaita | hello | 14:50 |
TusharTgite | i'm planning to do a feature in the wallaby cycle so for that i have some question | 14:51 |
rosmaita | ok | 14:52 |
TusharTgite | the is a limitation in volume multi attach . Retyping an in-use volume from a multiattach-capable type to a non-multiattach-capable type, or vice-versa, is not supported. | 14:52 |
TusharTgite | so it is possible to work on this | 14:52 |
smcginnis | I seem to remember there being a very good reason not to allow that for in-use volumes. | 14:54 |
TusharTgite | if anyone can suggest some other thing apart from this if its not possible to do that will be helpfull for me | 14:54 |
whoami-rajat___ | I'm not an expert on this but this might have a lot of complications when the in-use volume is actually mutliattached to multiple instances or a read/write operation is going on simultaneously | 14:54 |
smcginnis | So I guess a spec that goes through issues and how it would be addressed would be useful. | 14:55 |
lseki_ | hmm I can't imagine what's the expected behavior when a multi-attached volume is retyped to a non-multiattach volume type | 14:55 |
smcginnis | It may have had something to do with nova needing to know at attach time if a volume can be multiattach. So if it's in-use, that might not be changed. | 14:55 |
rosmaita | would be good to have a discussion at the PTG if you are interested in pursuing this | 14:55 |
TusharTgite | ok, because in Victoria cycle I've only do doc patches so I'm looking for a feature item in upcoming cycle. | 14:57 |
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smcginnis | The best features to implement are ones that users are actually asking for. I don't have a list or anything, but if there is a specific need for something identified, that makes it much more likely to get attention and get changes in. | 14:58 |
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rosmaita | eharney has proposed a spec for "reset state robustification" | 14:59 |
rosmaita | that might be good to work on | 14:59 |
rosmaita | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682456/ | 14:59 |
smcginnis | ++ | 14:59 |
eharney | yes | 14:59 |
smcginnis | <1 minute left | 14:59 |
rosmaita | TusharTgite: take a look at that patch and see if you're interested | 14:59 |
jungleboyj | The multi-attach would be an interesting discussion. | 14:59 |
rosmaita | we can discuss at the PTG if you need more details | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | Lots of landmines there though. | 15:00 |
rosmaita | ok, out of time | 15:00 |
rosmaita | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
whoami-rajat___ | Thanks! | 15:00 |
TusharTgite | ok i'll look into that patch | 15:00 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 15:00:20 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-10-07-14.01.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-10-07-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-10-07-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | Thanks. | 15:00 |
rosmaita | TusharTgite: and if you are still interested the multiattach issue, could be worth talking about at the PTG | 15:01 |
e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 15:01:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:01 |
vishalmanchanda | hi | 15:01 |
e0ne | hi | 15:01 |
rdopiera | hi | 15:03 |
amotoki | hi | 15:04 |
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e0ne | let's start | 15:05 |
e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:05 | |
e0ne | TC election started | 15:07 |
e0ne | you can find a mail from Jeremy Stanley <civs@cs.cornell.edu> to get a link for the poll | 15:07 |
e0ne | subject: Poll: OpenStack Wallaby Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll | 15:07 |
e0ne | every link is unique, so it was sent personally each contributor | 15:08 |
e0ne | OpenStack Victoria will be released next week https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html #link | 15:09 |
e0ne | nothing special for horizon, just for you info. | 15:10 |
fungi | feel free to let me know if you have any questions too | 15:10 |
amotoki | e0ne: will you cut another horizon release this week to include the latest translation? | 15:10 |
e0ne | amotoki: do we need to do it this week? | 15:11 |
e0ne | IMO, it's better to do it early next week (Mon or Tue) | 15:11 |
amotoki | e0ne: we usually did it, so I asked it. | 15:11 |
amotoki | I haven't checked when was our last release. | 15:11 |
amotoki | did it happen last week? | 15:12 |
e0ne | it was done 12 days ago | 15:12 |
e0ne | tomorrow is Hard StringFreeze, that's why my proposal is to wait a bit more for translations | 15:13 |
amotoki | but this week is for the last release. | 15:14 |
amotoki | next week is for the release team and it is not recommended to cut a release next week. | 15:14 |
amotoki | According to the schedule, HardStringFreeze was the week of Sep 25 | 15:15 |
amotoki | this week is "Final RCs and intermediary releases" | 15:16 |
e0ne | amotoki: I mixed up everything:( | 15:16 |
e0ne | amotoki: you're right, let's cut a new release tomorrow | 15:16 |
amotoki | +1 | 15:17 |
amotoki | the version would be 18.6.1 | 15:18 |
e0ne | it would be good to have this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756452/ merged too, but it's not merged in master yet | 15:18 |
e0ne | but it's not a release blocker for sure | 15:19 |
e0ne | do we have anything else Victoria-specific? | 15:21 |
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amotoki | nothing from me | 15:23 |
vishalmanchanda | nothing from my side. | 15:23 |
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e0ne | ok, let's move to the next topic | 15:24 |
e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:24 |
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e0ne | does anybody want talk about something? | 15:24 |
vishalmanchanda | I have a topic to discuss | 15:25 |
vishalmanchanda | I was just going through our feature-gap etherpad and selecting which feature I can target for next cycle. | 15:26 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: go ahaed | 15:26 |
vishalmanchanda | I have shortlisted a few like quotas per volume type https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660567( I will review it) | 15:26 |
vishalmanchanda | 2. multi-backend support or glance(Experimental ATM in glance) | 15:27 |
vishalmanchanda | 3. floating IP port forwarding(neutron) | 15:27 |
vishalmanchanda | 4. backups management for admin(easy and good to have it from operator POV) | 15:27 |
vishalmanchanda | I want to know your opinion. | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | Is it worth? | 15:28 |
vishalmanchanda | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap | 15:29 |
e0ne | I'll be happy with any new feature | 15:29 |
vishalmanchanda | If anyone have some other good feature that good to have in horizon I also want to hear about them as well. | 15:30 |
amotoki | I am happy with any new features but I have no opinion on them at the moment because I haven't identified how many common topics which are more important than them we have. | 15:30 |
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e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:32 |
vishalmanchanda | hmm. | 15:32 |
amotoki | generally speaking, user-facing features are preferred. | 15:33 |
e0ne | +2 | 15:33 |
amotoki | admin/operators tend to script or automate their tasks rather than GUI. | 15:33 |
e0ne | that's the whole idea of horizon :) | 15:33 |
vishalmanchanda | yeah. | 15:34 |
amotoki | before discussing which one/two should be selected, don't we need to check and refersh the etherpad? | 15:35 |
amotoki | I am not sure all listed there match the current status. | 15:35 |
vishalmanchanda | yeah because many of them already completed | 15:36 |
amotoki | personally we should close feature gaps in Angular Launch Instance form | 15:36 |
amotoki | it is not a good idea to manitain two types of the launch instance form for long. | 15:36 |
e0ne | #action team to check https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap and update it if needed | 15:37 |
e0ne | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-feature-gap | 15:37 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: Ok I will check if I can pick any of feature from Angular Launch Instance form. | 15:40 |
e0ne | vishalmanchanda: thanks | 15:40 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: I believe tmazur can help closing them too. | 15:40 |
tmazur | I can help, yes | 15:41 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: yeah because I haven't explore that part of code so much. | 15:41 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: Also last time when I checked it's low priority for horizon. | 15:41 |
vishalmanchanda | tmazur: thanks:) | 15:41 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: it would be a good chance to explore such areas. | 15:41 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: regarding the priority, Angular Laucnh instance form is our default so it should be prioritized. | 15:42 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: what we discussed is about the priorities of new migrations to Angular. | 15:43 |
amotoki | vishalmanchanda: hope it clarifies the situation | 15:43 |
vishalmanchanda | amotoki: +1. | 15:44 |
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vishalmanchanda | that's all from my side. | 15:45 |
e0ne | I've got one more topic to dicsuss | 15:45 |
e0ne | and I'm sure 15 minutes is not enough for it | 15:45 |
e0ne | but I would like to talk about mypy in horizon | 15:46 |
e0ne | #link http://mypy-lang.org/ | 15:46 |
e0ne | since we don't support python2 anymore, we. can go forward with it | 15:46 |
e0ne | I don't want to propose dozens of patches with it | 15:47 |
e0ne | but I think it would be useful for our internal and public,plugin-related, APIs | 15:47 |
amotoki | generally speaking, it would be useful | 15:49 |
e0ne | my idea is do it step-by-step with other code changes | 15:49 |
e0ne | at least, we need some infrastructure for it: tox env, config, job | 15:50 |
e0ne | if nobody argues on it, I'll propose patches soon | 15:50 |
e0ne | and we can discus them in gerrit and/or PTG | 15:51 |
tmazur | let's discuss it at PTG maybe? | 15:51 |
vishalmanchanda | I can see other project also using it like nova. | 15:51 |
amotoki | e0ne: what is the difference between mypy and type hints in python native https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html | 15:51 |
amotoki | ? | 15:51 |
tmazur | amotoki: +1 | 15:52 |
e0ne | amotoki: frankly speaking eking, we need type hits | 15:52 |
e0ne | mypy was introduced before type hints were merged into the python core | 15:52 |
e0ne | but people still uses 'mypy' naming more widly | 15:53 |
e0ne | at least people I know | 15:53 |
amotoki | type hints is just a hint and python runtime does not enforce it. | 15:53 |
e0ne | yep | 15:54 |
amotoki | does mypy provide static check? | 15:54 |
e0ne | it's used on CI and durine development | 15:54 |
amotoki | if so it is an additional merit. | 15:54 |
e0ne | yes, nothing changes in a runtime | 15:55 |
e0ne | #link https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0484/ | 15:56 |
e0ne | "The proposal is strongly inspired by mypy [mypy]." | 15:56 |
e0ne | mypy woks for python 2, but I really don't care on it | 15:56 |
e0ne | and I do understand that backports will be more complicated | 15:56 |
amotoki | we will have two releases with python3 only, so it might be a good timing to start this kind of discussions. | 15:58 |
amotoki | I mean Ussuri and Victoria. | 15:59 |
e0ne | that's why I didn't propose to do it in Victoria | 15:59 |
amotoki | :) | 15:59 |
amotoki | I have one thing to share before closing the meeting. | 15:59 |
amotoki | I have one thing to share before closing the meeting. I added "Feature Removals" in Wallaby to our etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-release-priorities Feel free to add any if you have/notice. | 15:59 |
e0ne | amotoki: good idea! it will help us with releases and release notes | 16:00 |
amotoki | I would like to have such changes in the first release for Wallaby. | 16:00 |
e0ne | +1 | 16:00 |
e0ne | we're out of time | 16:02 |
e0ne | thanks for your contributions! | 16:02 |
e0ne | we can continue our discussion in #openstack-horizon | 16:02 |
e0ne | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
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vishalmanchanda | bye all! | 16:02 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 16:02:37 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-10-07-15.01.txt | 16:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2020/horizon.2020-10-07-15.01.log.html | 16:02 |
amotoki | o/ | 16:03 |
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sangeet | Please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756352 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756375 .. these are to upgrade kubernetes to 1.18.9 version | 20:45 |
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