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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 15:00:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc dviroel lseki tbarron andrebeltrami felipe_rodrigues | 15:00 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:00 |
| maaritamm | o/ | 15:00 |
| andrebeltrami | o/ | 15:00 |
| kiwi_36 | o/ | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| vhari | o/ | 15:01 |
| disap | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hey there everyone, welcome back - i hope you enjoyed the downtime if you had some last week | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | if not, i hope the end of 2020 brings you some :) | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | lets get started. The meeting agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| gouthamr | let me begin by formally congratulating maaritamm for joining the python-manilaclient-core team | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | thank you for all the hard work you've put into that project maaritamm - we are excited that you're willing to join us and maintain it :) | 15:04 |
| vkmc | *\o/* maaritamm | 15:04 |
| maaritamm | thanks gouthamr :) | 15:04 |
| * gouthamr has never made his stick figures do things vkmc does | 15:04 | |
| dviroel | maaritamm++ | 15:05 |
| vkmc | it's a whole skill I've been working on | 15:05 |
| maaritamm | thanks vkmc \o/ | 15:05 |
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| vhari | maaritamm++ | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | :D alright, a calendar check point occurs today | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html (Wallaby Release Schedule) | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | we're at milestone-1 of this release | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | which is a bug targetting deadline for us.. we'll come back to that in a bit | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | we're also going to make the first wallaby release of the python-manilaclient, hopefully by eod | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/764735 (Release python-manilaclient for wallaby-1 milestone) | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | we're three weeks away from manila's specifications freeze | 15:08 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | hi there tbarron | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | if you're intending on writing a spec, please do so at the earliest so we have enough time to iterate | 15:08 |
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| dviroel | spec freeze christmas edition | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | home alone 4 with manila specs | 15:09 |
| vhari | :) | 15:09 |
| dviroel | XD | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | we have a couple of specs uploaded already that need review attention | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fmanila-specs+status:open | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | when you have some time, please take a look and provide feedback so we can close out on these | 15:10 |
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| gouthamr | that's all i had in terms of announcements, some more news will follow in a formal topic | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | anyone else got any? | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | #topic Outreachy Internships (Dec 2020 - Mar 2021) | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outreachy Internships (Dec 2020 - Mar 2021) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:12 | |
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| gouthamr | while we were away, Outreachy announced the results of their internship cohort for Dec 2020-Mar 2021 | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | and both our internship proposals were accepted! | 15:13 |
| dviroel | \o/ | 15:14 |
| carloss | nice! | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | huge props to vkmc, who continues to raise the bar on mentorship and investment | 15:14 |
| vhari | awesome! | 15:14 |
| maaritamm | Yay! Outreachy <3 | 15:14 |
| vhari | vkmc++ | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | and with that, i'd love to welcome our newest zorillas: disap and kiwi_36 | 15:14 |
| maaritamm | vkmc ++ | 15:15 |
| disap | Hi everyone ! | 15:15 |
| tbarron | vkmc++ | 15:15 |
| tbarron | disap: welcome! | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | disap kiwi_36: would you say who you are, what you do etc :) | 15:15 |
| maaritamm | welcome disap & kiwi_36 \o/ | 15:15 |
| carloss | welcome disap kiwi_36 :) | 15:15 |
| tbarron | kiwi_36: hi! | 15:15 |
| dviroel | welcome disap kiwi_36 | 15:16 |
| disap | Thank you | 15:16 |
| kiwi_36 | Hello awesome zorillas \o/.Thanks for the warm welcome | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | didn't mean to put you on the spot like that :D | 15:17 |
| kiwi_36 | I am Paul Ali , from Kenya . I will be working on unified limits support in Manila. I like creating stuff . It is an honour to be working on Openstack with all of you. | 15:18 |
| esantos | welcome disap and kiwi 36 o/ | 15:18 |
| disap | I'm Dina Saparbaeva, from Kyrgyzstan | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | kiwi_36: nice, you'll be a pioneer in that arena, and we're excited to work with you on that | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | disap: welcome :) sorry this meeting is so late in your day | 15:20 |
| kiwi_36 | Thanks gouthamr vkmc maaritamm for everything.I am open to learning as much as possible from all of you. | 15:20 |
| disap | Thank you Goutham, it's fine. Not so late =D | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | great... thanks disap, kiwi_36 | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | the internships began this week, and will finish close to the end of the wallaby release cycle | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | if you have any questions at all, disap and kiwi_36 - feel free to chime in on #openstack-manila | 15:23 |
| vkmc | kiwi_36++ and extra maaritamm++ for helping him on the application period :D | 15:23 |
| vkmc | and disap++ so thrilled to have you working with us in manila ui :D | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | maaritamm++ keep being awesome :) | 15:25 |
| disap | thank you @vkmc thrilled to work with you and all OpenStack team :) | 15:25 |
| maaritamm | always happy to help! feel free to ping me if there is something I can help out :) | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | we have a total of 5 new contributors working on various fronts all of this cycle | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | i want to take a moment to appreciate the help that the team continues to provide | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | zorillas ftw | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | lets move on with the agenda... | 15:30 |
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| gouthamr | #topic bugs (vhari) | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:30 | |
| vhari | hey zorillas | 15:31 |
| vhari | :) | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | vhari: o/ | 15:31 |
| vhari | starting with new bugs to triage | 15:31 |
| vhari | #Link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1904746 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1904746 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "share server is failing to delete using kerberos with NetApp driver" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Felipe Rodrigues (felipefutty) | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | interesting | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: i saw some other bugs against netapp/kerberos | 15:33 |
| dviroel | felipe_rodrigues already has a fix for that too | 15:34 |
| felipe_rodrigues | yeah | 15:34 |
| felipe_rodrigues | i will submit them soon | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | is this feature working, and affecting only new consumers, what's the story? | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | by new consumers, i meant newer versions of ONTAP | 15:34 |
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| dviroel | not sure if this is happening only with newer versions | 15:35 |
| dviroel | my guess is that isn't working for a long time | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | #TIL kerborized LIFs don't get deleted automatically | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ack, lets set the same prio as the related bugs | 15:36 |
| felipe_rodrigues | at least in the tested ontap version, it must delete manually | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: do you have a link to the other bugs? | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | (or bug) | 15:36 |
| dviroel | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1901189 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1901189 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp kerberos-realm-create api changed" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Felipe Rodrigues (felipefutty) | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | thanks dviroel | 15:37 |
| felipe_rodrigues | deleting the kerborized LIF leads to delete the entity in the kerberos server... it needs the password, so it must be manually... | 15:38 |
| tbarron | it seems that carthaca is saying that DOT behavior changed at 8.3.0+ ? | 15:39 |
| tbarron | and manila needs to adjust | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: oh, there's no API you can hit? | 15:39 |
| felipe_rodrigues | i dont think so | 15:40 |
| dviroel | don't we just need to completely delete the kerberos server config in order to delete the LIF? | 15:40 |
| felipe_rodrigues | yeah, we need to delete the kerbero resources... | 15:42 |
| felipe_rodrigues | there are 2 bugs: 1. changing the ONTAP behavior; 2. cleaning the kerberos resources | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | okay, lets continue this conversation on the bugs. I'll retarget lp 1901189 to wallaby-2 | 15:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1901189 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp kerberos-realm-create api changed" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901189 - Assigned to Felipe Rodrigues (felipefutty) | 15:43 |
| vhari | ack, revisiting #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1817316 for dviroel | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1817316 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "security service password is stored in plaintext" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:44 |
| vhari | dviroel, take it away :) | 15:44 |
| dviroel | Yeah, esantos is working on this bug | 15:44 |
| dviroel | That was discussed in denver ptg | 15:45 |
| dviroel | There are 2 fixes that we might want to have there | 15:45 |
| dviroel | The first one is to stop showing sec. service passwords | 15:46 |
| dviroel | And the second one, to encrypt the password in the db | 15:46 |
| tbarron | isn't there also the possiblity of not storing it at all? https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1817316/comments/3 | 15:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1817316 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "security service password is stored in plaintext" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:48 |
| dviroel | tbarron: we were thinking on that too | 15:49 |
| dviroel | but we didn't agree on a solution for that until now | 15:49 |
| tbarron | dviroel: yeah, if that's feasible it might be safest and easiest both. Dunno if we have to store it for some reason though. | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | mostly if drivers want it later | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | i'm unsure if they're using it though - perhaps a "just in case we need it" design | 15:50 |
| felipe_rodrigues | there are some drawbacks stopping storing , like less usability.. should we ask every share create when using s.s.? | 15:51 |
| tbarron | ^^ +1 if feasible | 15:51 |
| dviroel | Yeah, take as an example, when we need to delete Kerberos server, on share server deletion, we nees the password to do that | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: yeah, presumably the storage system has someway to remember the authentication - but, it's possible drivers are replaying this information to the backends | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ah, yeah - new and concrete use case | 15:52 |
| dviroel | felipe_rodrigues might confirm that for us | 15:52 |
| felipe_rodrigues | ontap , right? | 15:53 |
| dviroel | felipe_rodrigues: yeap | 15:53 |
| dviroel | felipe_rodrigues: that we need to provide the password on order to delete the kerb config | 15:54 |
| dviroel | anyway, we will continue studying these solutions, and might need a meeting to discuss in details | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: sure thing, we can jump on a design call once you have some ideas to share | 15:55 |
| dviroel | +1 | 15:55 |
| felipe_rodrigues | +1 | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: else, a short spec if that's easier would help too | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | thanks for bringing this issue back up | 15:56 |
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| dviroel | np, thks | 15:56 |
| dviroel | thanks felipe_rodrigues for bringing this back for us | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | vhari: we have 3 minutes left, do we have any other bugs to discuss? | 15:57 |
| vhari | gouthamr, got bugs but no time ! | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | :D | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | vhari: thanks for keeping us honest, lets take any other pressing ones to #openstack-manila if we can't defer triage to next week | 15:58 |
| vhari | gouthamr, yw, will pick up the rest next week | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | vhari++ | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:58 | |
| gouthamr | all of two minutes :) | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | alright everyone thank you all for attending and for the lively discussion | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | please stay safe! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | see you next week, and on #openstack-manila in the meanwhile | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-12-03-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-12-03-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 16:02:19 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
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| priteau | #topic Roll call | 16:03 |
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| priteau | Quiet today it seems | 16:14 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 16:14 |
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