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| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 24 14:00:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic cinder roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:00 |
| enriquetaso | hi | 14:00 |
| eharney | hi | 14:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:01 |
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| walshh_ | hi | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | hello everyone | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | let's get started | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | RC-1 for wallaby will be released tomorrow | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | and at that point the stable/wallaby branch will be cut | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | master will become xena development | 14:03 |
| enriquetaso | \o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | any release-critical bugs will have to merge to master and then be backported to stable/wallaby to be in RC-2 | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | so, any non-release-critical stuff must be merged by early tomorrow | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | so, people need to review like crazy today, and people with patches need to revise and resubmit quickly | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i sent out an email yesterday about the major priorities | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | or at least i think i did | 14:06 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: :) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/021256.html | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | major stuff there are the follow-ups to features | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | and geguileo has a stack of quotas fixes for your reviewing pleasure | 14:07 |
| geguileo | most of them are trivial, though there's at least one that is a bit painful | 14:07 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita: not sure how important it is but volume show doesn't work for non-admins (for mv>3.31) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/778373 | 14:07 |
| * jungleboyj will make review time today | 14:08 | |
| geguileo | whoami-rajat: whaaaaat? | 14:08 |
| e0ne | whoami-rajat: seems like a critical thing | 14:08 |
| geguileo | e0ne: +1 | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | i didn't know you could show a volume by name | 14:09 |
| geguileo | oooooooh, reading the comment, that's not a Cinder issue, it's the client | 14:09 |
| tosky | cinderclient one? Does it need more functional tests there? | 14:09 |
| geguileo | cinder should fail on that request | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | and it does!!! problem solved!!! | 14:10 |
| geguileo | if the client asks for all_tenants info and it doesn't have access, it should fail | 14:10 |
| geguileo | imo | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | geguileo: yeah but client doesn't know if the user is admin or not, we fixed similar issues before for revert to snapshot and transfer show by name | 14:10 |
| geguileo | whoami-rajat: I hope I didn't review those patches, because I think the approach is wrong | 14:11 |
| geguileo | we should not be passing client problems into the REST API | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | it's a relatively new bug, so let's discuss at the bug squad meeting | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | geguileo: i think you provided the fix for revert to snapshot | 14:11 |
| enriquetaso | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1917574 | 14:11 |
| openstack | enriquetaso: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1917574 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1917574). The error has been logged | 14:11 |
| * geguileo dies inside | 14:11 | |
| geguileo | rosmaita: +1 | 14:12 |
| whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, whoami-rajat brings up a good point about how we will be determining release-critical bugs | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | i guess i should continue that thought | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i guess an etherpad? | 14:14 |
| whoami-rajat | +1 for etherpad | 14:14 |
| jungleboyj | +1 | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i am very inarticulate this morning | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | ok, etherpad it is | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-release-critical-bug-nominations | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | so, if you are working on something you think may be release critical, add it ^^ and i will decide & raise priority accordingly | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | reviewers, you can work from the dashboard | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | #link http://tiny.cc/CinderPriorities | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, announcements continued | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | next week is last week of the month, so time for a video meeting | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | connection info will be on the agenda and i will try to remember to send out a reminder email | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | and, we now have two more "official" meetings | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | sofia is leading the bug squad, right after this meeting | 14:19 |
| enriquetaso | \ø/ | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Cinder_Bug_Squad_Meeting | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | and we decided last week to hold the festival of reviews the third friday of each month | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Cinder_Festival_of_XS_Reviews | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | if you go to those links, you can find a handy ICS file to add them to your calendar | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all from me ... anyone else have an announcement to share with the team? | 14:21 |
| jungleboyj | Nice. | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving on | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | #topic lower constraints job | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "lower constraints job (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:22 | |
| rosmaita | the TC has decided that the lower-constraints job is optional | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | and that even if you do run it in master, it is *really* optional in the stable branches | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | so, there are a few issues we should consider as a team, but we will do that at the PTG | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | so we'll keep it as is for the wallaby release (it's working!), because it will be removed from stable/wallaby anyway | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | and we can decide later how to handle it in the development branch | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | but on that note, i have a patch up to tell cinder to use wallaby os-brick | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | and that patch adjusts the requirements and lower-constraints to match os-brick | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | so that does need to merge soon (like today?) | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/779646 | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | btw, other than that, i will not be adjusting requirements or lower-constraints | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i looked last night, and the change in february caused by pip 20+ brought us pretty close to reality | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | but take a look, and if you have questions, please leave them on the review | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | unless someone has a question now? | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i know, the excitement of lower constraints has everyone speechless | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #topic cgroups in cinder | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cgroups in cinder (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:28 | |
| rosmaita | ok, this one is from zigo who said he couldn't be here | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | so he left a big message in the agenda | 14:28 |
| eharney | well, the proposal to move to cgroups v2 makes sense, and we should do it | 14:28 |
| enriquetaso | is it related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1920912 ? | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1920912 in Cinder "add of volume to a group which was created from group snapshot of another consistency group fails and group goes into error state" [Undecided,New] | 14:29 |
| eharney | i haven't yet looked into how much work that involves | 14:29 |
| enriquetaso | oh, OK it's not | 14:29 |
| eharney | no | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i noticed by the way that we don't have cgroup-tools or whatever it's called in our bindep file | 14:29 |
| enriquetaso | sorry about that | 14:29 |
| eharney | cgroups is a linux process/resource management feature | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | seems like cgroups v2 has been around a while, i guess there's support in all the other distros? | 14:30 |
| eharney | yeah fedora did it in 2019 or so | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | ok, key issue at the moment is whether this is wallaby release critical | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i am thinking no | 14:32 |
| eharney | unless i'm mistaken the cgroups commands aren't used unless you enable throttling in cinder.conf (should probably confirm this) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | eharney: that is correct | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | (i was looking at that yesterday) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i think zigo's suggestion of mentioning this in a release note is probably a good one | 14:33 |
| eharney | and i assume we could backport this, so it's probably not release critical | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | that was my thought too | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will write up a release note and people can comment on it, and we can talk more at the PTG | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | but from what i was looking at yesterday v1 and v2 are like completely incompatible | 14:34 |
| eharney | yes | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, in the meantime, anyone who wants to get up to speed on cgroups, please do! | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | zigo says he won't have time to work on it himself | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | but thanks to him for bringing this to our attention | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | #topic stable branch release update | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch release update (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:35 | |
| rosmaita | whoami-rajat: you have the floor | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi, so we are remaining with train release and we still have unmerged patches | 14:36 |
| whoami-rajat | although a lot of patches were merged last week so thanks to everyone who reviewed | 14:36 |
| whoami-rajat | we currently have 3 patches, 2 from netapp and 1 from SVF | 14:36 |
| whoami-rajat | the SVF patch author hasn't replied or updated on my comment since 15th march so not sure what to do about it | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/stable-releases-review-tracker-22-02-2021 | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita: I've a question for you, can we propose the release without the SVF patches? they're included in victoria and ussuri release | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | yes | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | great, i will put up a release after the 2 netapp patches merge which might soon since sfernand updates patches quickly | 14:39 |
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| jungleboyj | Sounds good. | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | that's all from my side | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | what's the deal with SVF? that train patch has a dependency patch that has not been proposed to train? | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | yes | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | if we wait for it then we might release train after wallaby... | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | and it looks like you mentioned that over a week ago | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | yep | 14:41 |
| jungleboyj | Strange that they haven't responded. They were very active for a while. | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | yes, and also extremely annoying asking for reviews | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | (did i say that out loud?) | 14:42 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: I didn't hear anything. ;-) | 14:42 |
| jungleboyj | *Sigh* That used to be part of my team. Don't have anyone to mentor them anymore I guess. | 14:42 |
| sfernand | sorry folks I will update all netapp patches right after this meeting | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | how about we say aim for releasing train next week | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | tuesday maybe | 14:43 |
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| whoami-rajat | works for me | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | that will give SVF team time to respond, and sfernand you may need to work on the wallaby feature bug patches ... keep an eye on those | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks whoami-rajat | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:44 | |
| sfernand | ack | 14:45 |
| eharney | a few folks are already tracking this, but https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/781788 seems to help with our lio-barbican gate failures, so reviews there would be helpful | 14:46 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Oooh, good news. | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | yes, it would be a good idea to get that patch merged | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | and the one that depends on it | 14:48 |
| eharney | i need to go figure out which third party CIs are interesting for the second patch (remove_export_snapshot) and look at their results | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | oh, ok | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | the first patch seems pretty safe, though | 14:50 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah. Can't make things worse. :-) | 14:51 |
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| rosmaita | anything else for open discussion? | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita add cgroup v2 topic to PTG etherpad | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | actually, that reminds me | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | don't forget to register for the PTG | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | Oh yeah. | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | and add topics to the etherpad if you have them | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | I have had a tab open for that since last week. | 14:56 |
| eharney | any hopes of getting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/766751 at this point? | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | that has been sitting a long time | 14:57 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like a good idea to me. | 14:59 |
| jungleboyj | I am all for making failures more obvious. | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i agree | 14:59 |
| eharney | yeah, when this happens, it makes a mess and isn't terribly clear to an admin looking at the logs | 14:59 |
| geguileo | yeah, that's one that's tricky to see in the logs for non developers | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, we are out of time | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | thanks everyone! | 14:59 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks! | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 24 15:00:15 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-03-24-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-03-24-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2021/cinder.2021-03-24-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| e0ne | т#startmeeting horizon | 15:03 |
| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 24 15:03:05 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:03 |
| e0ne | hi everybody | 15:03 |
| vishalmanchanda | hi. | 15:03 |
| tmazur | o/ | 15:03 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 15:04 |
| amotoki | hi | 15:05 |
| e0ne | let's start | 15:05 |
| e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:05 | |
| e0ne | tomorrow we'll reach Wallaby RC1 milestone | 15:06 |
| e0ne | #link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html | 15:06 |
| e0ne | probably, we'll cut a horizon release and create stable/wallaby branch | 15:07 |
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| e0ne | horizon uses other release model, it's not required for us to do it tomorrow | 15:10 |
| e0ne | that's all updates from me | 15:12 |
| e0ne | oh.. almost forgot to mention lower-requirements job update | 15:12 |
| e0ne | TC decided that it's optional now | 15:13 |
| amotoki | so, what's our decision? | 15:14 |
| e0ne | so we can drop it in a next release | 15:14 |
| e0ne | I'm fine with it until it works :) | 15:14 |
| amotoki | if we drop l-c, how can we ensure lower requirements in (test-)requirements.txt? | 15:14 |
| amotoki | that's my only question. | 15:15 |
| * e0ne remembers breakage with new pip20 | 15:15 | |
| amotoki | the resolver enhanment in pip20 was a big change, so it is not surprising though. | 15:15 |
| amotoki | I am okay if you can ensure lower requirements in (test-)requirements.txt. If so I am fine with l-c job drop. | 15:16 |
| e0ne | does somebody uses l-c in production? AFAK, most people prefer upper-constraints | 15:18 |
| amotoki | so what does our min ver in requirements.txt mean? | 15:19 |
| amotoki | once l-c is dropped, I am not sure who can care min vers. | 15:19 |
| e0ne | fair enough | 15:20 |
| vishalmanchanda | IMO we can keep lower-constraints job as it is. | 15:20 |
| e0ne | vishalmanchanda: +1 | 15:20 |
| vishalmanchanda | It is not so difficult to fix it if it fails atleast for horizon. | 15:20 |
| amotoki | in neutron, we agreed and have dropped l-c in stable branches as we rarely change requirements. | 15:21 |
| amotoki | thet's one possible compromise. | 15:21 |
| e0ne | the same for cinder, but it will be a ptg topic | 15:21 |
| amotoki | neutron still keeps l-c in the master branch. | 15:21 |
| vishalmanchanda | We can follow the same approach in horizon as well. | 15:22 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:24 |
| e0ne | looks like we've got an agreement on it | 15:29 |
| e0ne | let's move to the next topic | 15:30 |
| e0ne | #link PTG planning | 15:30 |
| e0ne | we need to decide which timeslots work for us until tomorrow | 15:30 |
| e0ne | #link https://ethercalc.net/oz7q0gds9zfi | 15:30 |
| e0ne | here is a poll with some proposed slots | 15:31 |
| e0ne | #link https://doodle.com/poll/3yh2g6asbg9acaqt | 15:31 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I hope, they don't conflict with neutron a lot | 15:31 |
| amotoki | IIRC neutron will have sessions on 13-16UTC every day except Wed. | 15:33 |
| amotoki | I did not notice the doodle poll till now. Was it announced? | 15:35 |
| e0ne | actually, not | 15:36 |
| e0ne | vishalmanchanda asked me about it before meeting | 15:36 |
| e0ne | I'll keep it open until tomorrow | 15:37 |
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| e0ne | and will hope that our timeslots will be available | 15:37 |
| amotoki | Only 14-15UTC slot looks available to me considering neutron and OSC/SCK sessions :) | 15:38 |
| e0ne | :( | 15:38 |
| amotoki | 14-15UTC Wed | 15:38 |
| e0ne | neutron and cinder have a lot timeslots | 15:40 |
| vishalmanchanda | We can add more options to the poll. | 15:40 |
| vishalmanchanda | if that works for everyone. | 15:40 |
| amotoki | I will be at horizon slot depending on topics for conflicing slots. | 15:41 |
| amotoki | the poll have 05-07UTC slots on Tue, but unfortunately I have internal weekly meeting in these slots. | 15:42 |
| e0ne | :( | 15:45 |
| e0ne | amotoki: as I see poll results looks all slots work for everybody except you:( | 15:47 |
| amotoki | e0ne: I think so. | 15:47 |
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| amotoki | so, you can select any slots for horizon. I will join horizon sessions depending on topics. | 15:48 |
| e0ne | I understand you because cinder has a lot timeslots too | 15:48 |
| vishalmanchanda | Ok let's book the most voted slot in PTG calendar https://ethercalc.net/oz7q0gds9zfi | 15:51 |
| vishalmanchanda | because tomorrow is deadline for that http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/021239.html | 15:51 |
| vishalmanchanda | I think 4-5 hours are enough for Horizon PTG discussion. | 15:52 |
| vishalmanchanda | We can increase it depending on the topics if required. | 15:52 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:53 |
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| vishalmanchanda | amotoki can join us depending on the topics in which he interested. | 15:54 |
| e0ne | let's get a list of topic first and create a schedule | 15:55 |
| vishalmanchanda | Could you create a etherpad where we can see how many topics we got for discussion. | 15:57 |
| vishalmanchanda | e0ne: ^^ | 15:57 |
| e0ne | will do it and send a mail right after the meeting | 15:57 |
| vishalmanchanda | e0ne: thanks:) | 15:57 |
| vishalmanchanda | Guys we are out of time! | 16:00 |
| e0ne | thanks for your participation! | 16:03 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 24 16:03:44 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-03-24-15.03.html | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-03-24-15.03.txt | 16:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-03-24-15.03.log.html | 16:03 |
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