Tuesday, 2021-05-11

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ricolin#startmeeting multi_arch07:03
openstackMeeting started Tue May 11 07:03:40 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:03
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ricolin#topic roll call07:04
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ricolino/07:04
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ricolinAs report here, I already tested arm64 on my personal ARM64 environment and it works fine07:12
ricolinAlso Community CI environment looks also fine as the volume backup and restore test running time back to 100-120 secs07:13
ricolinMy best guess is the CI environment suffered from Storage IO issue07:14
ricolinunless there's updates I'm not aware of07:14
ricolincurrently we need to figure out what tests we would like to keep07:15
ricolinand what to drop07:15
ricolin#endmeeting07:15
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gagehugo#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 11 15:00:26 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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stevthedevHello there, general ghugo15:00
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lamt\o15:01
sangeet0/15:01
jinyuanliu\o15:01
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda15:01
reddy1\o15:01
gagehugowe will start in a few15:02
miniroyo//15:02
gagehugo#topic OSH Announcement15:04
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gagehugoI'd like to announce that we are adding sangeet and jinyuanliu to the OSH core team, congratulations to you both15:05
stevthedev\o/15:05
miniroywoot woot15:05
sangeetThank you15:06
jinyuanliuthank you15:06
gagehugothank you both for all the work you've done, we hope to see it continue :)15:07
gagehugo#topic pod localtime15:07
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gagehugojinyuanliu: I think this is your topic15:08
jinyuanliuyes15:08
jinyuanliuhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/78913515:08
jinyuanliuI believe that more places will change the time zone according to their geographic location.15:09
jinyuanliuFor example, in China,15:09
jinyuanliuwe generally use CST. I believe that other regions have similar problems, which will cause inconsistencies in the container with the host time,15:09
jinyuanliuand some problems will occur.Especially the time of the log is wrong, which is not conducive to viewing。15:09
jinyuanliuIt seems that there are currently several ways to set the POD time.15:09
jinyuanliuTZ can be set by env, but this requires the installation of tzdata pkg.15:10
jinyuanliu I have tested it and it is invalid to set TZ without this package.15:10
jinyuanliuWe can install pkg of the images through opensatck-images, but some of the images we directly pull from GitHub seem to be difficult to handle.15:10
jinyuanliu RabbitMQ, for example, does not have tzdata installed.15:10
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jinyuanliuand15:10
jinyuanliuPodPreset is also a way, as samuei said,PodPreset(alpha feature) has been deprecated ,   see: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/pull/9409015:10
jinyuanliuMountPath seems to be the best15:10
jinyuanliuWhat do you think?Is this necessary?15:11
sangeetI am sure all host should have the same time, I do not see any issues with mounting host time to the pods15:12
gagehugoWon't this break anyone currently using UTC?15:12
sangeetIf  the hosts have UTC then the pods will have UTC as well when mounting the host time15:13
miniroyI am more worried about things like centralized logging or where some place may have some aggregate monitoring setup for different geographic regions15:14
lamtcan we make that optional?15:14
miniroyfor a localize datacenter, this maybe fine15:14
lamtinstead of always mounting it15:14
gagehugoI'd be ok if this was toggle-able15:14
miniroyyeah, I think make it configurable and optional maybe better15:14
lamtif someone wants they can use it15:14
sangeetI am good with making it optional15:14
lamtbut we won't forcefully mount it in the chart15:15
sangeetwhat do we want the default behaviour to be?15:15
gagehugodefault should be host time IMO15:15
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gagehugohow it is now15:15
sangeetI agree15:15
gagehugothen add a local-time or local_time config option in values.yaml15:16
gagehugoI think that would solve most issues if anyone wants to use local time over UTC15:16
lamtyeah let's leave the default as is and if you want to test it - use the override15:16
miniroy+215:17
gagehugokeystone tokens may break too across geographic regions if we change all the times as well15:17
jinyuanliuI agree15:17
gagehugosounds good15:19
gagehugojinyuanliu: you have a path forward then?15:20
jinyuanliuYes i will update a path15:20
gagehugocool15:21
gagehugo#topic open discussion/reviews15:21
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gagehugoAnyone have anything they want to discuss or anything to get reviewed?15:21
gagehugo#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/78994815:23
gagehugo#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/78994915:23
gagehugoI'll post some then :D15:23
sangeethttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/+/78806115:23
sangeetlamt .. renewBefore field is set by default in all regular certificates but not in ingress certificates. So may not be a good idea on relying on this field.15:24
lamtI need to double check - I still don't think deleting the secret is needed15:24
miniroywith the addition of jinyuanliu and sangeet, we have finally achieved "follow the sun" support  :)15:25
sangeetyes .. the certs are rotated after renewalTime and secrets updated, but how do we mount new secrets15:26
lamtdoesn't restarting the pod work with the new secrets?15:27
sangeetAnd this is a cron job, the certs may have just rotated and cron would exit without doing anything15:27
sangeetI mean certs roatetd before the cron started15:28
lamtI haven't touch cert-manager for a while so I need to spend time double checking15:29
lamtbut having a cron job that deletes things independent of the cert-manager's management of certs/secrets makes me slightly uncomfortable, but if the other cores are okay with it15:30
gagehugoThanks everyone, have a good rest of the week15:36
gagehugo#endmeeting15:36
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