| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 22 15:00:38 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| felipe_rodrigues | o/ | 15:00 |
| caiquemello | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiooliveira | o/ | 15:00 |
| haixin | o/ | 15:00 |
| simondodsley | o/ | 15:00 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc dviroel carloss tbarron felipe_rodrigues ecsantos vhari | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | ^ sorry for the double ping | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| kafilat | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hello everyone, thank you for joining.. extracting myself out of another meeting | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | here's our agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | schedule announcements, the new driver submission deadline is next week | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | "By the end of the week all new backend drivers for Manila must be substantially complete, with unit tests, and passing 3rd party CI. Drivers do not have to actually merge until feature freeze." | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | we've already merged one driver, and from what i see on the channel, and from the PTG, we *may* have some more that haven't hit gerrit yet | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | although, given we only have a week - it's possible the driver authors will hold off until the Yoga cycle | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | no other announcements for today | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | does anyone else have any? | 15:05 |
| carloss | I do | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | go ahead caiquemello | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | grr | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | carloss :) | 15:05 |
| dviroel | lol | 15:05 |
| carloss | lol | 15:05 |
| carloss | I'd like to introduce a new Zorilla! | 15:06 |
| * gouthamr oh boy its an infestation | 15:06 | |
| carloss | rfluisa joined our team and we will be seeing contributions from her :D | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | rfluisa: o/ welcome to the community! | 15:06 |
| carloss | welcome rfluisa :) | 15:06 |
| rfluisa | o/ | 15:06 |
| fabiooliveira | \o/ | 15:06 |
| rfluisa | Thanks!! :) | 15:06 |
| ecsantos | welcome rfluisa o/ | 15:06 |
| dviroel | rfluisa: hey o/, welcome | 15:07 |
| felipe_rodrigues | welcome! | 15:07 |
| haixin | welcome | 15:07 |
| simondodsley | hi | 15:07 |
| tbarron | welcome rfluisa! just saw a patch announced on #openstack-manila by Luisa. Is that y ou? | 15:07 |
| tbarron | you? | 15:07 |
| rfluisa | That's me! | 15:07 |
| ashrodri | welcome! | 15:07 |
| carloss | off to a good start :D | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | entering the community in style :) great work rfluisa | 15:07 |
| tbarron | rfluisa ftw! | 15:08 |
| ashrodri | rfluisa +1 | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | great :) any other announcements? | 15:08 |
| carloss | that's all I had gouthamr... thanks! | 15:09 |
| caiquemello | welcome!!! | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | thank you carloss - glad to see your team growing! | 15:09 |
| carloss | me too :) | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #topic AIs from Last Week | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | so we had a discussion about transitioning stable/rocky and stable/queens branches in manila, python-manilaclient and manila-ui to EOL | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023702.html | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22queens-eol%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | we're just waiting to see if anyone expresses objections on the ML | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | feel free to +1 those changes - barring any objections, these should get merged soon | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | we also discussed our draft schedule for the Yoga PTG | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023703.html ([manila][ptg] Yoga cycle Project Teams Gathering information) | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-ptg-manila-planning (Yoga PTG Planning etherpad) | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | ^ this etherpad is to gather ideas, interests and form discussion topics | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | please feel free to add your intent to attend, and any topics you're planning | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | speaking of last week, we also had a successful GHC OSD \o/ | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | vkmc kafilat archanaserver ashrodri vhari maaritamm diablo_rojo ildikov | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | ^ was a fun zorilla convention as well :) | 15:16 |
| ashrodri | it was a great experience! excited to participate again in the fall :D | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | we had fewer contributors this round; and we implemented a lot of feedback from the last round and learned a bit more.. | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | ashrodri++ totally | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | great job, and thank you mentors - i was especially happy to see archanaserver and kafilat join us as mentors! | 15:19 |
| ashrodri | archanaserver++ kafilat++ | 15:20 |
| archanaserver | yes it was a amazing experience indeed, thank you to openstack community :) | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | alright, the other item to follow up from last week was our devstack external connectivity issues | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023631.html ([devstack][neutron][manila] Instances having trouble getting to external network with OVN) | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | we don't have any responses from neutron/ovn folks yet on that thread | 15:22 |
| simondodsley | Yes - this is still an issue for 3rd Party CIs - can we ping the Neutron PTL directly? | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | simondodsley: yes - that was my next step, slaweq was ooto until this week; will ping him after this meeting | 15:23 |
| simondodsley | +1 | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | alright, lets move on.. | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | #topic Yoga Goals | 15:24 |
| * gouthamr like a new year, new me resolution | 15:24 | |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023659.html | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | ricolin started a discussion ^ concerning pain points with openstack services; and contemplating a goal to eliminate one in each project | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination (Pain Point Elimination etherpad) | 15:26 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | \o ricolin | 15:27 |
| ricolin | Thanks for raising this topic | 15:27 |
| ricolin | I'm working on collecting known pain point from teams | 15:27 |
| ricolin | and see if we can make this as a Yoga goal | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | +1 so the AI here is for manila operators, contributors to identify what they think is painful about manila today | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | while we're collating ideas on a single etherpad, each team will select and work on their own project's pain point | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | from what i understand.. | 15:29 |
| ricolin | exactly | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | awesome, thank you for proposing this ricolin.. | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | lets take this as a AI and add things to that list; and please forward this request to operators you know that may not be watching the ML | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | we have had some feedback from earlier operator forums on a very similar question, when tbarron asked | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | so i'll dig those up and and them there | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | any questions, while we have ricolin's attention? :) | 15:32 |
| ricolin | feel free to ping me anytime gouthamr :) | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | awesome, thanks ricolin! | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | #topic Reviews needing attention | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-xena-review-focus | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | we've some good discussion going on on the Affinity/Anti-Affinity hints specification | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/775198 (Add Share Affinity/Anti-Affinity Scheduler Filters) | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | please share your feedback there, we're brainstorming the persistence of the hints in the database and how the share workflows will be affected by them | 15:36 |
| haixin | i have see this spec, I actually don't think this feature is any better than share Type | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | haixin: beyond the reasons mentioned in the use-cases section? | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | haixin: the biggest reason i see there is having users provide hints dynamically as shares are created - something share types wouldn't be able to help with | 15:39 |
| haixin | My point is that with share types arranged to be named and corresponding to their respective backends, users can easily distinguish between backends | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | i see; yeah that's one alternative - however, cloud operators could be treating share types as service classes rather than creating one per-backend | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | haixin: please take a look and add your review to teh spec | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/776875 (Early validate for CIFS without security service) | 15:42 |
| haixin | ok,i will | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | thanks haixin | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | can i have other reviewers for this CIFS early validation change? | 15:43 |
| carloss | I need to circle back on this | 15:43 |
| carloss | Will do so :) | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | thanks carloss | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | alright, the rest on that etherpad are still pending, but have reviewers signed up | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | does anyone have any other reviews we need to talk about? | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | if not right now, feel free to add any to the etherpad to gather wider attention | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bug Triage (vhari) | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | vhari is in another meeting, i'll take this one | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1936648 | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | ^ pretty cool bug; did a user hit this felipe_rodrigues, or did you hit this yourself when testing? | 15:47 |
| felipe_rodrigues | i hit it, while developing other features | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | it's possible other backends that implement revert-to-snapshot may have this issue | 15:48 |
| felipe_rodrigues | i think so.. if they are renaming | 15:48 |
| felipe_rodrigues | they could save the previous name in the provider_location field | 15:49 |
| felipe_rodrigues | instead of renaming it for the driver snapshot template name | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | isn't the provider location the actual name on the backend so drivers can locate it | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | s/it/the snapshot | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | if the field isn't used like that, sure | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | felipe_rodrigues: i'm okay tagging this medium, do you have a fix in the works? is this xena-3 material? | 15:51 |
| felipe_rodrigues | the plan is starting working on the fix after the feature freeze.. from now, i am fully busy to deliver it.. | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | ack, i'll target to rc1; but i'm interested in the fix, and how it should apply generically across drivers | 15:52 |
| felipe_rodrigues | ok | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | it may be a call out in the driver docstrings and new bugs against specific drivers | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1936689 | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | ashrodri: thanks for reporting this bug | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | definitely a good ux improvement | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | and can be extended to share types | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | do you plan on working on this bug? | 15:55 |
| ashrodri | yeah i do | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | okay, feel free to claim it - i'll target this one to rc1 too, but its okay if we can close sooner or later | 15:57 |
| ashrodri | sounds good! | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | thanks ashrodri | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1936667 | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | this one has a fix: | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/801079 | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | seems simple enough | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | will target this low, m-3 -> although that's just to triage this :) | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | alright, lets wrap up here for the day | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | if you'd like to chat about anything else, please hop over to #openstack-manila | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | thank you all for attending - see you next week! | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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