carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 15:00:35 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
gouthamr | o/ | 15:00 |
andrebeltrami[m] | o/ | 15:00 |
carthaca | Hi | 15:00 |
caiquemello[m] | hello! | 15:00 |
lucasmoliveira059 | o/ | 15:00 |
vhari | hi | 15:00 |
haixin | o/ | 15:01 |
nahimsouza[m] | o/ | 15:01 |
fabiooliveira | o/ | 15:01 |
carloss | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc dviroel carloss tbarron felipe_rodrigues ecsantos fabiooliveira | 15:01 |
vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
ashrodri | o/ | 15:01 |
ecsantos[m] | o/ | 15:01 |
dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
carloss | hello zorillas! o/ | 15:02 |
carloss | good quorum :) | 15:02 |
carloss | so let's get started! | 15:02 |
carloss | Today's agenda: | 15:02 |
carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
carloss | well, this may be short | 15:03 |
carloss | I don't have any announcements today, but wanted to open the floor for those who might have one :) | 15:03 |
gouthamr | i have one :) | 15:04 |
carloss | please got ahead gouthamr :) | 15:05 |
* gouthamr was trying to find if there's a ML post | 15:05 | |
gouthamr | #link https://openinfra.dev/live/#:~:text=All%20Previous%20Episodes-,Upcoming,-OpenInfra%20Live%20Episodes | 15:05 |
gouthamr | ^ our work during the Yoga release will be featured at an OpenInfraLive episode next week | 15:05 |
dviroel | \o/ | 15:06 |
vkmc | \o/ | 15:06 |
gouthamr | so save the date, and stream it if you're available :) | 15:06 |
carloss | yayy :D | 15:06 |
vhari | \o/ | 15:06 |
fabiooliveira | \o/ | 15:06 |
gouthamr | thats all :) | 15:07 |
carloss | awesome gouthamr! thanks for sharing | 15:07 |
carloss | it's a good opportunity to see what's new on the other projects as well | 15:08 |
carloss | on to the next topic... | 15:08 |
carloss | #topic Zorilla cycle PTG Planning | 15:08 |
carloss | I kind of mentioned this in the last week as well | 15:09 |
carloss | the PTG is in approximately 1 and 1/5 weeks from now | 15:09 |
* gouthamr wow just two weeks away | 15:09 | |
gouthamr | less than two :D | 15:09 |
carloss | we already have the planning etherpad for the Zorilla PTG | 15:10 |
vkmc | :D | 15:10 |
carloss | time flies gouthamr :D | 15:10 |
carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/zorilla-ptg-manila-planning | 15:10 |
carloss | I've done some modifications to this and as I mentioned, there has been some voluntelling there :p | 15:10 |
carloss | so if you see your name in a topic and you didn't add it | 15:11 |
carloss | there's a huge chance it was me | 15:11 |
carloss | if you do need some help to prepare for it, please reach us out and we'll be glad to help | 15:11 |
carloss | we already have a few topics proposed there but I'm expecting the list to grow up to tomorrow | 15:12 |
carloss | so I'd like to ask you to please add your topics if you haven't done it | 15:12 |
carloss | next week we'll start planning the time slots accordingly and sharing the official PTG etherpad with their assigned time | 15:13 |
gouthamr | ecsantos[m]: hoping to see a session with your CI setup expertise/experience | 15:13 |
carloss | gouthamr++ | 15:14 |
sfernand | ++ | 15:14 |
ecsantos[m] | Oh my, the pressure :D | 15:14 |
carloss | you'll do great ecsantos[m] :) | 15:15 |
ecsantos[m] | Thanks carloss, I do hope so :) | 15:15 |
carloss | still on PTG, the retrospective etherpad is already created | 15:15 |
andrebeltrami[m] | we'll add two sessions soon | 15:15 |
carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-yoga-retrospective | 15:15 |
gouthamr | andrebeltrami[m]++ | 15:15 |
carloss | andrebeltrami[m]++ | 15:15 |
* gouthamr likes the matrix nicks on here | 15:16 | |
carloss | so if you do want to cover something during the retro, please add it to the etherpad | 15:16 |
carloss | as usual, we will hold the retro in the first hour of the PTG :) | 15:16 |
carloss | last but not least, the PTG slots are available here: | 15:17 |
carloss | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/7yxdas7suqnd | 15:17 |
carloss | alright... someone would like to add/ask something about the PTG? | 15:18 |
gouthamr | carloss: i think this one's live as well | 15:18 |
gouthamr | https://ptg.opendev.org/ptg.html | 15:18 |
* gouthamr cross-checks with reserved slots | 15:19 | |
carloss | oh, yes! thanks gouthamr :D | 15:19 |
gouthamr | yeah - our slots have transferred correctly | 15:19 |
carloss | great | 15:21 |
carloss | alright, next up is | 15:21 |
carloss | #topic Bug Triage | 15:21 |
carloss | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new | 15:21 |
carloss | vhari, floor is yours :) | 15:21 |
vhari | ty carloss :) | 15:21 |
vhari | let's dive in with couple of new bugs | 15:22 |
vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1966176 | 15:22 |
vhari | looking for minor triage | 15:22 |
carloss | thanks for the report carthaca | 15:24 |
gouthamr | netapp devs, does this sound familiar at all? | 15:24 |
dviroel | crickets | 15:26 |
gouthamr | carthaca: iiuc, no deterministic way to reproduce this? | 15:27 |
sfernand | hey folks sorry | 15:27 |
* fabiooliveira taking a look on it | 15:27 | |
andrebeltrami[m] | we'll need to investigate this one | 15:27 |
sfernand | not to me gouthamr | 15:27 |
carthaca | I think it is in the middle of deleting when the share-service is being restarted | 15:28 |
gouthamr | oh | 15:28 |
sfernand | but that can be assigned to us | 15:28 |
sfernand | and we will add to our backlog.. it is getting a bit bigger but we are focused to close a few per sprint | 15:28 |
carthaca | We have periodic tests running and the affected shares are usually from those | 15:29 |
gouthamr | carthaca sfernand: thanks; so while an access rule update is being processed, kill the share manager and start it up and delete the share.. | 15:29 |
gouthamr | i think the rename was to allow for atomic updates to exports | 15:30 |
gouthamr | "# Make temp policy names so this non-atomic workflow remains resilient | 15:31 |
gouthamr | # across process interruptions." | 15:31 |
carthaca | I just found another datapoint looking at my error mails: first record I have is from June 2018, so it is anything but new. | 15:31 |
gouthamr | ^ good intentions :) | 15:31 |
carthaca | We are only restarting more often currently :D | 15:31 |
sfernand | yep this is the procedure for qos settings, access rules, snapshots | 15:31 |
gouthamr | think this is a medium if there's no way to recover from manika | 15:32 |
gouthamr | manila* | 15:32 |
carloss | ++ for medium | 15:33 |
carloss | sfernand: who should we assign this bug to? :) | 15:33 |
sfernand | please assign to nahimsouza[m] | 15:34 |
carloss | ack, thanks! | 15:34 |
sfernand | I'm already working on two manila issues (delete with clone split and old snapmirror snapshots not being deleted automatically) | 15:34 |
carthaca | thanks! | 15:34 |
vhari | all set .. moving to | 15:35 |
vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1965561 | 15:35 |
vhari | sfernand++ | 15:35 |
sfernand | another issue with replicas, oh my | 15:36 |
sfernand | looking | 15:37 |
carthaca | this feature is still quite new and customers are slowly starting to use it | 15:37 |
sfernand | good to know! | 15:38 |
sfernand | I would say that impacts connectivity to the share and also can | 15:39 |
sfernand | can't be fixed from manila | 15:39 |
sfernand | right? | 15:39 |
carthaca | It depends on the error - at first it is only a validation in the api layer, so a manila share-replica-reset-state could get you out of that. | 15:41 |
sfernand | humm you are correct | 15:41 |
carloss | when we create the share replica, we already forward the list of access rules to the share driver | 15:42 |
carthaca | but it may go into error right again if something is wrong with one of the backends - which is kind of a expected situation: replication is setup so that at least one backend is working and serving the shares. some being down should not stop actions on the replica that is still working | 15:43 |
carloss | drivers will be responsible for applying the access rules for it | 15:43 |
carloss | but when we promote, we also do that... but I don't know if there's a way to ensure that drivers will try to update the access rules again | 15:43 |
gouthamr | carthaca: can i know what API version the access-allow/deny commands were performed with? | 15:44 |
carthaca | with the latest supported in xena | 15:44 |
gouthamr | oh | 15:44 |
gouthamr | https://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/commit/785016eb742206d89aae2898fc4af77e19c581fa/manila/api/v2/shares.py#L470 | 15:44 |
carthaca | that would be 2.65 | 15:45 |
* gouthamr will try to reproduce this bug | 15:46 | |
gouthamr | the code linked above should allow you to perform access rules ops even if one of the instances is in "error" state | 15:46 |
carloss | gouthamr++ | 15:47 |
* gouthamr scratches his head why that wouldn't work | 15:47 | |
carthaca | https://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/commit/785016eb742206d89aae2898fc4af77e19c581fa/manila/share/api.py#L2106-L2111 | 15:47 |
gouthamr | ah thanks | 15:48 |
gouthamr | okay, vhari - assign this bug to me, i'll take a look if we can improve this or i'll respond with suggestions | 15:49 |
vhari | gouthamr, ack.. | 15:49 |
carloss | apparently it's kind of ignoring the validation on https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/api/v1/shares.py#L470-L471 | 15:49 |
carthaca | gouthamr: thank you for having a look | 15:50 |
gouthamr | you're welcome! | 15:50 |
gouthamr | thanks for reporting the issue.. | 15:50 |
vhari | carloss, that's a wrap for bugs | 15:51 |
carloss | great, thanks vhari! | 15:51 |
carloss | alright | 15:51 |
carloss | #topic Open Discussion | 15:51 |
gouthamr | o/ CFP for forum topics is now open | 15:52 |
gouthamr | https://cfp.openstack.org/app/berlin-2022 | 15:52 |
gouthamr | we've used past forums to chat with operators about deployment issues, use cases, integration with container orchestrators, etc | 15:53 |
carloss | awesome! | 15:54 |
gouthamr | if anyone has an idea about what we could do this time, please submit a proposal :) | 15:54 |
carloss | we had a good discussion on backups in the last PTG... it possibly would be a great forum proposal as well | 15:54 |
carloss | gouthamr++, thanks for bringing it up | 15:56 |
carloss | alright folks... I think we can wrap up here :) | 15:56 |
carloss | thank you for joining! let's get a few minutes back to our days :) | 15:56 |
carloss | see you on #openstack-manila | 15:56 |
carloss | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 15:57:07 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2022/manila.2022-03-24-15.00.html | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2022/manila.2022-03-24-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2022/manila.2022-03-24-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
gouthamr | thanks carloss ! | 15:57 |
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