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| caiqilong | hi, is the cinder weekly meeting started here? | 13:59 |
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| whoami-rajat | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 14:00:12 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| simondodsley | o/ | 14:00 |
| harsh | o/ | 14:00 |
| felipe_rodrigues | o/ | 14:00 |
| helenadantas[m] | o/ | 14:00 |
| eharney | o/ | 14:00 |
| thiagoalvoravel | o/ | 14:00 |
| caiqilong | o/ | 14:00 |
| MatheusAndrade[m] | o/ | 14:01 |
| luizsantos[m] | o/ | 14:01 |
| caiquemello[m] | 0/ | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-meetings | 14:01 |
| toheeb | o/ | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | hello everyone | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | let's get started | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic announcements | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | first, EM EOL Branches | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | it's a followup from last week | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | i sent out a mail to ML regarding EOL vs EM discussion | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-June/034311.html | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | that may be an incorrect link? | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | since the discussion got side tracked from cinder EOLing EM branches to the feasibility of the EM model | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | oh | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034335.html | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | sorry copied the wrong link | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks rosmaita | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | so this mail is another reminder to get back on track and get feedback from vendors, operators etc on cinder team's decision | 14:07 |
| whoami-rajat | let's get back to it next week when we will hopefully have some responses | 14:08 |
| whoami-rajat | next, Milestone-2 | 14:08 |
| whoami-rajat | this has multiple sub announcements | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-June/034311.html | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | 1. Library releases for M-2 | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | release team will propose patches for libraries, probably os-brick, python-brick-cinderclient-ext etc for M-2 | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | PTL (me) and release liaision (jbernard) needs to look out for patches | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | 2. Deliverable files for 2023.2 Bobcat | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/bobcat | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | I checked the directory and we have files for all relevant cinder projects | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | cinder: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | cinderlib: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | cinder-tempest-plugin: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | os-brick: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | python-cinderclient: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | python-brick-cinderclient-ext: YES | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | let me know if i missed anything | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | but looks like we are good on this as well | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | 3. Volume and target Driver freeze | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-2023-2-bobcat-drivers | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | we have another driver this cycle which was mentioned on the ML | 14:12 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034321.html | 14:12 |
| whoami-rajat | the problem right now it's failing the zuul check as well as third party CI | 14:12 |
| whoami-rajat | forgot to mention, it's the TOYOU NetStor driver | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | the author has asked for reviews and an extension | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | the deadline is tomorrow so I'm not really sure | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | currently I am planning to provide 1 week extension to all drivers because of lack of reviews | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | it would be better if we have some volunteers, let's say 2 people, that commit to reviewing a driver | 14:14 |
| caiqilong | thanks, we will propose a new patch to fix the previous fails later. | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | I have added a Reviewers section to the etherpad | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-2023-2-bobcat-drivers | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | caiqilong, thanks! | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | I have also added my name as a reviewer for all 3 drivers | 14:18 |
| whoami-rajat | @cores, please add your name against a driver if you are willing to review it | 14:19 |
| whoami-rajat | i see rosmaita added his name for Touyou driver, thanks! | 14:19 |
| whoami-rajat | anyway, it can be done after the meeting | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i can try Yadro FC also, but would also be good to have someone better with FC take a look | 14:20 |
| whoami-rajat | ++ i think any other core member should volunteer for it | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | basically, any current driver maintainer who has an FC driver would be good (even if not core) | 14:20 |
| eharney | IIRC, we were waiting on a CI solution for the Lustre driver? | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | yes, i was thinking more in terms of merging the driver, but non-cores, feel free to review any driver! | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | eharney, yes, AFAIK it isn't sorted out yet but will check again | 14:21 |
| harsh | will try on the FC driver :) | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks harsh ! | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | i don't see any Lustre CI being reported on the driver | 14:24 |
| whoami-rajat | but i see a discussion towards the end comment that the author will work on it | 14:24 |
| whoami-rajat | the bad thing is that comment is from April 19th | 14:25 |
| whoami-rajat | let's target the Yadro FC Driver and TOYOU NetStor drivers for now | 14:25 |
| whoami-rajat | i will send out a mail to ML about the extension of deadline by 1 week | 14:26 |
| whoami-rajat | that's all i had for announcements | 14:27 |
| whoami-rajat | let's move to topics | 14:27 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic [Cinder-Backup] Spec to introduce a backup_status field for volumes and a split-up of the backup status away from the volume_status. | 14:27 |
| whoami-rajat | crohmann, are you around? | 14:28 |
| whoami-rajat | looks like he is not | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | I think what we wanted to ask is, if there are any takers for this feature work | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | he has committed to helping out with implementation but can't work on it as primary authors | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | so reiterating it again, are there any takers for this feature work? | 14:30 |
| whoami-rajat | s/authors/author | 14:30 |
| crohmann | whoami-rajat: I am ... but only partially. | 14:32 |
| whoami-rajat | ack | 14:32 |
| whoami-rajat | looks like there aren't any takers in current meeting but we can revisit this again | 14:33 |
| crohmann | too bad. What happens with this merged spec if there is nobody taking it? | 14:34 |
| whoami-rajat | if someone would like to implement it, they have time till M-3 | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | else we can repropose the spec to next cycle | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | s/to/in | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | let's revisit this again | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | and let's move to next topic | 14:37 |
| crohmann | ok. That's really unfortunate. I thought this would be more of a project goal to implement this | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | we need developer bandwidth to implement it which looks like we don't have as of now | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | because of the same issue, one spec is postponed to next cycle | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | ok, next topic | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic [Cinder-Backup] Performance issues with chunked driver | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | it's again by crohmann | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | since there is a nice summary on the etherpad | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | I will paste the same info here | 14:40 |
| zaitcev | "the etherpad"? | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | the meeting etherpad | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-meetings | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | Jon Bernard from RedHat offered to look into the performance issues with chunkeddriver | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | Unfortunatly we only exchanged a few emails so far. | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | But I just watched the talk from Enrico Bocchi and Luis Fernandez Alvarez from Cern about their endevours with Cinder-Backup | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-UgftgAy0 | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | Apparently they came to the same conclusion, that object storage backends are currently way to slow and not usable | 14:42 |
| whoami-rajat | I certainly will try to contact them both if they would join any efforts to speed up the chunkeddriver. | 14:42 |
| whoami-rajat | I just wanted to emphasize that this issue affects more people, even large installations such as at Cern, and forces them away from using object storage as cinder-backup backend. | 14:42 |
| whoami-rajat | I think Jon is not around at this time | 14:43 |
| zaitcev | OK. I'm not going to cross Jon on the performance then, or at least I'll ask how he's doing. | 14:47 |
| zaitcev | I'll take a look at Christian's review | 14:47 |
| whoami-rajat | cool | 14:47 |
| crohmann | I did not want to point him out in any way ... I simply wanted to say, this really is an issue ... for big installations. | 14:47 |
| crohmann | thx a ton zaitcev | 14:47 |
| whoami-rajat | i think the idea is to get this addressed | 14:47 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks crohmann for the update, maybe we can revisit if we have any progress on this | 14:51 |
| whoami-rajat | any other thing to discuss on this? | 14:51 |
| whoami-rajat | guess not | 14:52 |
| whoami-rajat | let's move to open discussion | 14:52 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic open discussion | 14:52 |
| whoami-rajat | please take a look at the review request section | 14:55 |
| whoami-rajat | some patches already have a +2 and requires a second vote | 14:56 |
| whoami-rajat | Sofia is not around today so we will not have Bug squad meeting | 14:57 |
| whoami-rajat | we are out of time | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks everyone for attending! | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jul 5 15:00:44 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-07-05-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-07-05-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-07-05-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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