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whoami-rajat | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
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opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Mar 6 14:00:36 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
whoami-rajat | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
Luzi | o/ | 14:00 |
jbernard | o/ | 14:01 |
tosky | o/ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
simondodsley | o/ | 14:01 |
happystacker | o/ | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings | 14:02 |
akawai | o/ | 14:02 |
whoami-rajat | hello everyone | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | let's get started | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | #topic announcements | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | Results of TC and PTL elections | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/OLLRWKP2FSSG5YK5F6M4TOEIHXSLCJ2X/ | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/#2024.2-ptl-candidates | 14:03 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/#2024.2-tc-candidates | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | the TC and PTL results are out | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | we already know who the next cinder PTL is so no surprises there | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | but if you would like to check who is leading other projects | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | and our newly added TC members | 14:04 |
whoami-rajat | please check the links above | 14:04 |
rosmaita | i think there's going to be a TC election, so that one's not finalized yet | 14:05 |
jayaanand | hi | 14:05 |
whoami-rajat | oh | 14:05 |
whoami-rajat | i didn't understand this statement in the email | 14:06 |
whoami-rajat | Now begins the campaigning period where candidates and electorate | 14:06 |
whoami-rajat | may debate their statements. | 14:06 |
rosmaita | yeah, that's for the TC | 14:06 |
whoami-rajat | so we have 7 people on the TC list but TC only has 6 members right? | 14:06 |
rosmaita | 9 members total, not sure if we replace 4 or 5 this cycle | 14:07 |
rosmaita | you serve for 1 year on the tc, but some people are elected in fall, some in spring | 14:07 |
rosmaita | the idea is that way, there's some continuity | 14:08 |
whoami-rajat | okay, i should gather more info on how the TC works before commenting, but glad we have rosmaita to let us know | 14:09 |
rosmaita | :D | 14:09 |
whoami-rajat | so that was about the elections | 14:09 |
whoami-rajat | next, Transition victoria -> xena to unmaintained | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/XHN5T4HQHUQYCRVUUCBPMEIMCDOMTXQC/ | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/910409 | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | initially we moved yoga from stable to EOM to test out the process | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | and now we are moving victoria to xena in EOM | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | the idea is to remove the stable branches | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | and create new unmaintained branches | 14:10 |
whoami-rajat | The release team has a patch for each project | 14:11 |
whoami-rajat | for cinder i verified hashes for all projects from victoria to xena but wanted to let cinder team take a look as well | 14:11 |
whoami-rajat | since it's a big change | 14:11 |
whoami-rajat | but as i can see they have merged the patch with my approval ... | 14:11 |
simondodsley | makes you feel good as the outgoing PTL, eh... | 14:12 |
whoami-rajat | :D | 14:12 |
whoami-rajat | anyway, so now we will have unmaintained branches from victoria -> yoga and all patches needs to be proposed there | 14:13 |
whoami-rajat | there will be a difference in case of SLURP releases but that won't be until next to next release so we can worry about it later | 14:15 |
rosmaita | i noticed that the auto-generated patches to master for the releasenotes have been posted ... they pull from unmaintained/vwx ... i think we want to use the -eom tags instead? | 14:15 |
whoami-rajat | rosmaita, yes | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | at least thats what we decided for yoga | 14:16 |
rosmaita | i can modify those | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | was there a discussion about it in TC? | 14:16 |
rosmaita | no, i didn't bring it up, it's up to the projects to decide | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | that cinder will be taking a different route than other projects on this? | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | okay, if that's the case | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | we are good | 14:16 |
rosmaita | well, glance is taking the same route :) | 14:16 |
whoami-rajat | I was worried if something changes and cinder is the only one broken | 14:17 |
rosmaita | anyway, don' | 14:17 |
rosmaita | t merge them, i'll get the revisions up later today | 14:17 |
whoami-rajat | sure, thanks! | 14:17 |
whoami-rajat | ok, next, Upcoming Deadlines & Dates | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5LVI4E425B3XCXD227NCZOFDWV7BSJLK/ | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | Cycle Highlights Due: March 7th, 2024 (R-4 week) | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | RC1 deadline: week of March 11, 2024 (R-3 week) | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | Final RC deadline: week of March 25, 2024 (R-1 week) | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | Final 2024.1/Caracal release: April 3, 2024 | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | Dalmatian PTG: April 8-12, 2024 | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | we have cycle highlights deadline this week | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | but i was planning to get the FFE features in | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | before proposing that patch | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | I've added a topic for it | 14:18 |
whoami-rajat | anyone would like to announce anything else? | 14:19 |
whoami-rajat | okay, let's move to topics then | 14:20 |
whoami-rajat | #topic FFE features | 14:20 |
whoami-rajat | 1. [NetApp] LUN space-allocation support for iSCSI | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/893106 | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | i went through it and it looks good | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | netapp ci is also passing | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | rosmaita, had some comments on it | 14:21 |
whoami-rajat | if those are addressed, i think we are good on this | 14:22 |
rosmaita | i'll look right after the meeting | 14:22 |
jayaanand | rosmaita comments are addressed | 14:22 |
whoami-rajat | great, thanks | 14:22 |
jayaanand | thank you | 14:22 |
whoami-rajat | thanks jayaanand | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | moving on | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | 2. Dell EMC: PowerMax - Configurable SRDF snapshots | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/910320 | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | anyone from dell team here? | 14:23 |
happystacker | yes | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | so this is waiting on the powermax CI | 14:23 |
whoami-rajat | is there an ETA on when it will be able to report? | 14:24 |
happystacker | need to ping the lab team again | 14:24 |
happystacker | there was an array upgrade in progress | 14:24 |
whoami-rajat | okay, please let them know we are in the feature freeze exception and this needs to merge today or tomorrow else it will be moved to next cycle | 14:24 |
happystacker | understood | 14:24 |
whoami-rajat | also if dell team can confirm that this feature works in their lab, i think that is also a valid reason to merge it | 14:25 |
whoami-rajat | at least that's what we've done in the past, rosmaita can confirm ^ | 14:25 |
happystacker | I'll let them know | 14:25 |
rosmaita | yes, i think that's acceptable as long as no one objects | 14:26 |
rosmaita | so if anyone has objections, now is the time to state them! | 14:26 |
whoami-rajat | looks like there are no objections | 14:27 |
whoami-rajat | so happystacker please try getting at least one of the two done and we can go ahead and merge the patch | 14:27 |
jungleboyj | In the past for these types of situations if they can add output from a successful run in their lab we would temporarily accept that. | 14:27 |
happystacker | that would be great! thanks team | 14:27 |
happystacker | ok thks whoami-rajat | 14:27 |
whoami-rajat | as jungleboyj said, running tempest locally and adding output as a comment on the patch is acceptable | 14:28 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 14:28 |
bryanneumann | Thank you whoami-rajat & rosmaita for all of the reviews. | 14:28 |
whoami-rajat | np | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat | 3. [HPE XP] Support HA | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/892608 | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat | i was reviewing this and i mostly agree with rosmaita's comments | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat | the safe get part makes sense | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat | and also fixing the issues with child drivers could be a separate patch if there are too many of similar issues | 14:30 |
whoami-rajat | and it doesn't affect the current feature | 14:30 |
whoami-rajat | the hitachi team mentioned that they are working on addressing the comments | 14:31 |
whoami-rajat | so probably we can expect an update today or tomorrow? | 14:31 |
akawai | whoami-rajat: I see. we'll try. | 14:32 |
whoami-rajat | okay, just to mention again, we are in feature freeze exception and all patches should be merged by tomorrow since we need to mention them in cycle highlights and cut branch for 2024.1 | 14:33 |
whoami-rajat | after which all patches will go into 2024.2 | 14:33 |
akawai | I see. | 14:33 |
whoami-rajat | so i feel we are good on this | 14:34 |
whoami-rajat | moving on | 14:35 |
rosmaita | akawai: please ping me in #openstack-cinder when you post a revision | 14:35 |
akawai | rosmaia: I see. | 14:36 |
whoami-rajat | 4. Dell PowerFlex driver: Add Cinder active-active support | 14:37 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/899795 | 14:37 |
whoami-rajat | so not an A/A expert but compared the code to pure driver (that has A/A) supported and it looked good | 14:37 |
whoami-rajat | the changes are very minimal | 14:37 |
whoami-rajat | the CI is passing | 14:38 |
whoami-rajat | so i didn't find any issues | 14:38 |
whoami-rajat | requires a second reviewer on it though | 14:38 |
yian | thank you whoami-rajat | 14:38 |
whoami-rajat | if geguileo has some time, maybe he can verify the A/A part, but anyone is welcome to review | 14:39 |
happystacker | thank you | 14:39 |
whoami-rajat | since we have less time, we still need a second reviewer though ... | 14:40 |
rosmaita | i will review | 14:41 |
jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: I can look now. I am not an expert but have looked at some of the other patches. | 14:42 |
jungleboyj | Between rosmaita and I it should be good. | 14:42 |
rosmaita | sounds good | 14:42 |
whoami-rajat | oh great, thanks for volunteering! | 14:42 |
yian | thanks! | 14:42 |
happystacker | excellent, thank you | 14:42 |
rosmaita | i just want to grab another A/A patch and make sure the correct functions are implemented & tested | 14:43 |
rosmaita | happystacker: i assume you looked at an already merged dell patch? | 14:43 |
happystacker | yes | 14:43 |
whoami-rajat | Pure is a good example, that's what i looked at | 14:43 |
happystacker | that's what we looked at as well | 14:43 |
simondodsley | :D | 14:43 |
whoami-rajat | :D | 14:43 |
rosmaita | simondodsley: ^^ hooray! | 14:43 |
simondodsley | I'm just looking at the patch as well | 14:43 |
whoami-rajat | Pure is setting an example for A/A implementation | 14:44 |
rosmaita | this patch is getting a lot of looks! | 14:44 |
happystacker | ;-) | 14:44 |
whoami-rajat | okay, this looks sorted out | 14:45 |
whoami-rajat | last one | 14:46 |
whoami-rajat | 5. Ceph: Add option to keep only last n snapshots per backup | 14:46 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/810457 | 14:46 |
whoami-rajat | zaitcev, had a comment to which Chrsitian has replied | 14:46 |
whoami-rajat | i haven't taken a look and honestly the ceph backup driver scares me | 14:47 |
whoami-rajat | so i can't guarantee if we will be able to get it in before validating with some ceph experts | 14:47 |
zaitcev | I'll take another look. | 14:47 |
zaitcev | But I think core members should take a look without regard to my question anyway. | 14:48 |
zaitcev | Eric and Gorka at the minimum. | 14:48 |
jungleboyj | ++ Yeah, for Ceph backup we really need one of those two. | 14:50 |
whoami-rajat | I would be happy to delegate the review responsibility, but let's see if we are able to get it in | 14:50 |
whoami-rajat | there was also a request from Fujitsu but i feel we already have a lot to be reviewed so unfortunately we will target it in next cycle | 14:52 |
whoami-rajat | other than that, I think we are covered on features | 14:52 |
rosmaita | maybe we can prioritize fujitsu for immediately after RC-time | 14:53 |
rosmaita | get it in really early into Dalmatian | 14:53 |
whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:53 |
whoami-rajat | we have Fujitsu and Hitachi that have a long list of patches | 14:53 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-2024.1-caracal-features | 14:53 |
whoami-rajat | so better to target them early next cycle | 14:53 |
rosmaita | well, if we are short on ptg topics, maybe we can have a fujitsu/hitachi review festival during ptg week | 14:54 |
whoami-rajat | maybe jbernard would like to be reminded about it :D | 14:55 |
jbernard | whoami-rajat: thanks :) | 14:55 |
whoami-rajat | I have no issues with the idea | 14:55 |
whoami-rajat | okay quickly i will go through the next topic | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | #topic Deprecate python-cinderclient-brick-ext | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | I was going through the history of changes in this project and found out the last functional change was 3 years ago | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | #link https://github.com/openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext/commit/26495b75bb2ace278214d5961eefbd21014811b9 | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | Recently all patches proposed to this project are maintainance related and I was wondering if we want to maintain this project or just deprecate it and recommend using older versions? | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | Do we have contributors that actively want to work on it or keep releases ongoing for other reasons? | 14:57 |
whoami-rajat | (good thing i wrote all this before) | 14:58 |
rosmaita | the only person i know who really uses it is hemna | 14:58 |
whoami-rajat | okay, but there is no active development on it for a long time so there is maintenance overhead | 14:59 |
whoami-rajat | if hemna- is good with older versions | 14:59 |
whoami-rajat | then we can probably deprecate it | 15:00 |
whoami-rajat | we are out of time, we can get back to it next week or during PTG | 15:01 |
whoami-rajat | thanks everyone for attending | 15:01 |
whoami-rajat | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Mar 6 15:01:39 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-03-06-14.00.html | 15:01 |
opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-03-06-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-03-06-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
jungleboyj | Thank you! | 15:03 |
happystacker | :-) | 15:04 |
bryanneumann | Thanks for the suggestion jungleboyj about attaching Tempest results. | 15:06 |
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