Thursday, 2024-06-13

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carloss#startmeeting manila15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Thu Jun 13 15:00:18 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
carlosscourtesy ping: dviroel vhari gouthamr carthaca msaravan pulluri ashrodri15:00
dviroelo/15:00
kpdevhi15:01
ashrodrio/15:01
carthacahi15:01
gouthamro/15:01
vharihi15:02
haixino/15:02
jayaanandhi15:02
ccokeke[m]Hello 15:02
gireeshhi15:02
msaravanHi 15:03
carlosshello everyone!15:04
carlossgood quorum, let's get started15:04
carlossour meeting agenda for today:15:04
carloss#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:04
carloss#topic Announcements15:05
carlossSchedule and Deadlines15:05
carloss#link https://releases.openstack.org/dalmatian/schedule.html15:05
carlosswe're 2 weeks away from spec freeze and 4 weeks away from our bugsquash15:06
carlossfor spec freeze, I think we are in the right path and some details of the two specs being proposed are being hashed out15:08
carlossthank you everyone that managed to share their thoughts on the specs15:09
kpdevi would like to have more thoughts on spec15:09
kpdevearlier reviewers mentioned that metadata update should be considered as superset of share properties. And should be applicable for all possible share operations e.g. shrink, extend etc.15:10
kpdevso if set property x in share type extra spec and then similar property in share metadata, the share metadata value would overwrite property x from share type (which is applicale for all shares of that type)15:11
kpdevhow best can we achieve this ?15:11
gouthamr( have to read this through; I haven’t looked at these comments yet)15:13
kpdevthat would be helpful15:13
carlossI think that we need to think of something in the lines of: do we want the share type capability to be modified for a specific share?15:14
gouthamrit could get very confusing to users if share type extra specs and metadata are both visible and are both mutable15:14
ashrodriis overriding share type spec with share metadata a user capbility, or admin?15:15
kpdevfew are admin only and rest for all users.15:16
gouthamrnot all share type extra specs are tenant visible - and those that are visible, and mutable are copied over to the share currently - for example: create_share_from_snapshot_support - the idea is that if the share type is modified, and the value of such a spec is changed, it doesn’t affect existing shares 15:16
gouthamrusers know the behavior within an existing share because there’s a corresponding “property” (not in the metadata table, but an immutable metadata of sorts) on the share itself15:17
gouthamrso id think we need a similar mechanism if we’re starting to throw in more such concepts through (user modifiable) metadata15:18
gouthamrI wonder, kpdev - is your use case entirely around modifying what’s in share type extra specs today ? have you considered a “retype” sort of workflow instead of this approach?15:19
kpdevmy spec was just forward metadata update to backend driver and perform action if possible 15:19
gouthamrwe don’t have retype - but, cinder does and there were requests to add that feature in the pst15:20
kpdevbut recent reviews are inclined to use metadata not only in update but also for all possible share operations.15:20
gouthamrI see; thanks for the call out… I will take a look and comment15:21
kpdevand also use that metadata as properties uniqeu to that share, which means it will override the properties of share that comes from share_type of that share15:21
carlossgouthamr: thanks :)15:23
carlosslet's continue the discussion in the spec15:23
gouthamr^ i can't think of the overlapping properties... 15:23
gouthamr> let's continue the discussion in the spec15:26
gouthamr +115:26
carloss#topic Review focus15:26
carloss#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-dalmatian-review-focus15:26
carlossI have cleared up  some things in our review focus etherpad15:26
carlossand I need to populate it with some more fixes15:28
carlossthis for example:15:28
carloss#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/912777 (Fix for our pylint job)15:28
carlossour pylint job has been broken for a while and I'm trying to fix it15:28
carlosshaixin kpdev ashrodri: can I have your eyes on this change?15:29
ashrodriyes15:29
carlossthank you!15:29
haixinsure15:29
carlossthanks15:30
carlossjust added two other fixes from kpdev to the list15:31
carlossmsaravan gireesh jayaanand: can we have your eyes on15:32
carloss#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/920382 (NetApp - Fix share revert to snapshot)15:32
carloss?15:32
gireeshsure15:32
msaravanYes, kpdev pinged us.. we'll work on it today/tomorrow. 15:32
carlossthank you! :)15:33
msaravanWas occupied with lot of customer queries/solution.. last week.. good thing is, they all wanted Manila..and they love our tenancy model - DHSS=True for datacenter. 15:33
carlossmsaravan: good stuff, DHSS=True is indeed very nice :D 15:35
carlossis there another change you would like to bring up during this meeting?15:36
carlossgoing once..15:37
carlossgoing twice..15:37
carloss#topic Bug Triage15:38
carlossvhari: o/ floor is yours15:38
vharihi 15:38
carloss#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug triage etherpad)15:38
vharilets dive in 15:38
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/206923015:38
vhariglobal id will help API tracing b'n manila and other services 15:40
vhariso this is an ask, long pending 15:40
gouthamr+115:40
vhariseems easy to implement? 15:40
gouthamrmedium prio i think15:40
carloss#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-ptg-manila-sap#L72 (Discussion of the topic at the PTG)15:41
vhariack15:41
vhariplenty of examples ^^15:41
carlossyeah, we are starting to get more attention to this15:41
carloss++ on medium prio15:41
vharilhf? 15:42
gireeshcan we add https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/2069125 bug also in list 15:42
gireeshone of the customer is hitting this issue 15:42
gireeshwe need to correct few field for this bug 15:42
gireeshI am working on this 15:42
carlossvhari: yes, sounds like lhf15:44
gouthamrthe global request id thing?15:45
gouthamrprobably not a LHF in our terms 15:45
vharigouthamr, ack 15:45
vhariis anyone interested in taking this? :)15:47
carlossgireesh: yep, we can add it to the list :D15:47
gireeshsure15:48
vhariif no other thoughts .. next up 15:48
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/206927015:48
vharigireesh++ I added the bug to the list 15:49
carlossvhari: sorry, previous bug might be a good challenge for someone looking for some fun... ashrodri would you be willing to take a look at it?15:49
gireeshthanks vhari 15:50
vharinp, carloss I updated bug notes15:50
carlossthanks15:50
ashrodriill take a look, thanks vhari15:50
vhariashrodri++ awesome15:50
carlossashrodri ++ :D15:50
vharihave a few minutes to char about ^^ 206927015:51
vharilooking for minro triage atm15:51
carlossmight be a bit of an ignorance of mine, but would 2069270 apply to manila as well?15:52
vharior NetApp only?15:53
carlossI was thinking likely cinder-only15:54
carlossI remember at least when we were managing volumes, we checked if they had luns15:54
carlossand if there were, we'd block the operation15:55
carloss#link https://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/commit/d773353502cd8932c31581cfbc3b80846067fe68/manila/share/drivers/netapp/dataontap/cluster_mode/lib_base.py#L209415:55
carlossnetapp volumes (aka shares in Manila :p)15:55
carlossgouthamr: I might be completely wrong here ^15:56
* gouthamr is looking15:56
vharigireesh I moved #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2069270 to next week list 15:57
gireeshsure 15:57
vhariif you would like earlier discussions, pls bring it up in #openstack-manila15:57
vharigireesh, ty for sharing the bug15:58
gireeshur welcome 15:58
gouthamrcarloss: sorry was in another meeting15:58
carlossgireesh++ :)15:58
gouthamrcarloss: yeah that bug doesn't look relevant to manila15:58
carlossgouthamr: np15:59
gouthamrbut, gireesh would probably know better :) 15:59
gouthamrbasically it says we should name LUNs according to a different standard; the netapp driver in manila doesn't create any LUNs - all good15:59
carlossyep15:59
carlossalright, so we are at the top of the hour16:00
gireeshi need to go through to this bug, I think saravana was looking into this bug 16:01
carlosssure, thank you! please update the bug accordingly16:01
carlossand validate if the issue is indeed manila related16:01
carlossgireesh: as vhari said, if you'd like to discuss the bug you brought up earlier, please bring it up in #openstack-manila16:02
carlosslet's wrap up16:02
carlossthank you for participating16:02
gireeshsure16:02
carlosslet's get back to #openstack-manila16:02
carloss#endmeeting16:02
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