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| jbernard | #startmeeting cinder | 14:03 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Apr 23 14:03:08 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jbernard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:03 |
| jbernard | #topic roll call | 14:03 |
| jbernard | o/ | 14:03 |
| jbernard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-flamingo-meetings | 14:03 |
| whoami-rajat | hey | 14:03 |
| Sai | o/ | 14:03 |
| Ashish_ | Hi | 14:03 |
| sfernand | hi | 14:03 |
| simondodsley | o/ | 14:03 |
| gireesh | o/ | 14:06 |
| jbernard | welcome everyone | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:06 |
| vdhakad | Hi | 14:07 |
| keerthivasansuresh | o/ | 14:07 |
| hvlcchao1 | hi | 14:07 |
| jbernard | our agenda is spase today, so the say the least ;) | 14:07 |
| jbernard | s/spase/sparse | 14:07 |
| jbernard | we are in R-23 right now | 14:08 |
| jbernard | this means 23 weeks until flamingo's release | 14:08 |
| jbernard | #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html | 14:08 |
| jbernard | which means there is plenty of time to get patches and reviews done! :) | 14:09 |
| simondodsley | you hope :) | 14:09 |
| jbernard | other than that, it is very quiet with the exception of the mechanical switches in my keyboard | 14:09 |
| jbernard | so we can have open discussion now if it's needed | 14:10 |
| jbernard | i dont' have anything pressing to communicate | 14:10 |
| jbernard | #topic open discussion | 14:10 |
| vdhakad | Is this a good time to get this patch merged, now that we have F branch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/925450 | 14:10 |
| simondodsley | there are still outstanding patches that need to be done for caracal so they can backport to bobcat | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | don't forget about bobcat | 14:10 |
| jbernard | ahh, great | 14:11 |
| jbernard | vdhakad: genearlly yes, it looks like you have some minor feedback | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-stable-bobcat-eol | 14:12 |
| jbernard | simondodsley: what are the outstanding ones? | 14:12 |
| simondodsley | listed at the top of https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-stable-bobcat-eol | 14:12 |
| jbernard | ok, i see | 14:12 |
| vdhakad | jbernard yeah, Simon left a comment regarding documentation. I’ll address it as part of a subsequent specifically patch for documentation | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | don't we require a deprecation period for driver opts? i see 'storwize_volume_group' directly removed | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i was saying "April 30" like it's a long way away, but it's basically next week | 14:14 |
| jbernard | rosmaita: ill work on this today | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:15 |
| jbernard | whoami-rajat: im not aware of it applying to opts, but i could very well be missing it | 14:16 |
| jbernard | whoami-rajat: we have a period for removal (https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/drivers-all-about.html) | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | IMO the deprecation period should be valid for all config opts, if a deployment is using any config option and when they upgrade, the option doesn't work without any prior deprecation warning, it doesn't give them any time to react to the change | 14:18 |
| whoami-rajat | what do you think jbernard rosmaita ? ^ | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i agree with whoami-rajat | 14:19 |
| jbernard | it makes sense, don't we have that written somewhere? | 14:20 |
| vdhakad | This conf option was introduced in Antelope release, but all the patches of the functionality weren’t merged due to disruption in team. Specifically the patch that updates documentation for the feature also wasn’t merged. We don’t believe any user is able to use the functionality. | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i think it's just the normal deprecation process for openstack | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | vdhakad: so what you are saying is, currently the option exists, but it's a no-op? | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | hmm, that's interesting | 14:22 |
| vdhakad | We do not believe any of our users is using the ‘storwize-volume-group’ config along with the volume group support, because the functionality never merged fully. So upgrade shouldn’t be a problem. | 14:23 |
| whoami-rajat | i do see a lot of code using that option but maybe that code path is never triggered | 14:23 |
| simondodsley | we should definatley document the deprecation process for opts, but in this case, if the opt has not been previously documented and doesn't work anyway, then I think skipping the deprecation period in this case might be ok | 14:23 |
| vdhakad | whoami-rajat: yup | 14:23 |
| whoami-rajat | yeah, in this specific case, it looks reasonable | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | though i do agree with Simon's comment that this should be mentioned in the release note | 14:25 |
| whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i know it will show up in the docs eventually, but i think it's better to have it in the same patch | 14:26 |
| vdhakad | Cool, I’ll update the release notes | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i think we put stuff like that in the "upgrade" section ... "IBM svf: the '<name>' option, which was never fully operational, has been removed in this release" | 14:28 |
| vdhakad | rosmaita: oh! okay. Thanks for the help! | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | np, take a look through the existing release notes for an example | 14:30 |
| Ashish_ | I was wondering if we currently support SSH host certificates for authentication. If not, is there any plan to add support for them in the near future? From what I can tell, it seems that the version of Paramiko we’re using may not support this feature, but I might be mistaken. Just wanted to double-check in case I’m overlooking something. | 14:31 |
| jbernard | i have added it to the review reqeust list, just so i dont loose track | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | Ashish_: i don't think we do ... i don't think cinder itself uses ssh at all, it's something that some of the drivers might do | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | we have ssh_utls but i think that's just so that the drivers who need it can reuse the same code | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | (though, i am happy to be corrected) | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | (well, not "happy" ... "willing", maybe) | 14:35 |
| Ashish_ | rosmaita: I’m working on the IBM SVC driver. We’re at a point where when a partition IP floats from a site to another, the cinder backend loses connectivity due to a mismatch with the host keys. We’re looking at host certificates as an alternative. | 14:36 |
| Ashish_ | But I think overriding the ssh_utils to customise it for our driver might make more sense | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | Ashish_: i was just going to suggest that you do your work in ssh_utils! | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i don't think that we are necessarily tied to paramiko if there is a better library for this | 14:38 |
| Ashish_ | rosmaita : Ah! Makes sense. So appending the host certificates support to ssh_utils would make our job easier, I’ll take a look into this. Thank you! | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | sounds good | 14:42 |
| jbernard | ok, i think we might be at the end, anything else? | 14:44 |
| jbernard | thank you everyone | 14:46 |
| jbernard | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Apr 23 14:46:08 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2025/cinder.2025-04-23-14.03.html | 14:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2025/cinder.2025-04-23-14.03.txt | 14:46 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2025/cinder.2025-04-23-14.03.log.html | 14:46 |
| Sai | Had something to announce !! Sorry jon was typing. | 14:46 |
| jbernard | Sai: sorry! | 14:46 |
| jbernard | Sai: what's up? | 14:46 |
| Sai | We have new team member from NetApp | 14:47 |
| Sai | Please join me in welcoming our newest team member pragya from NetApp. | 14:47 |
| Sai | She brings a wealth of expertise in Python and is ready to contribute to the openStack-cinder community. Welcome and all the very best Pragya !! | 14:47 |
| Sai | > Sai: sorry! | 14:47 |
| Sai | No worries, was just this! Thanks. | 14:47 |
| pragya | Thanks Sai! Hello everyone. | 14:47 |
| jbernard | pragya: welcome! | 14:48 |
| pragya | Thanks Jon! | 14:49 |
| Sai | Thank you Jon!! That's all. Good day everyone! | 14:49 |
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