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| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Aug 21 15:00:26 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: gouthamr msaravan Sai ashrodri gireesh | 15:00 |
| Sai | o/ | 15:00 |
| zgoggin | o/ | 15:01 |
| kpdev | hi | 15:01 |
| gireesh | hi | 15:02 |
| carloss | o/ hey folks | 15:04 |
| * carloss was waiting a couple of meetings for giving the chance for more attendees to join | 15:04 | |
| carloss | let's get started | 15:04 |
| carloss | hello everyone and welcome | 15:04 |
| carloss | first, thanks gouthamr for running last week's meeting during my absence | 15:05 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Hello | 15:05 |
| carloss | gouthamr++ | 15:05 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_ o/ | 15:05 |
| carloss | let's cover the first topic of this meeting: | 15:06 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:06 |
| carloss | let's look through our schedule and the upcoming deadlines | 15:06 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html (Flamingo Schedule) | 15:06 |
| carloss | next week we have the feature freeze and the client freeze | 15:07 |
| carloss | No featureful patch should be landed after the feature freeze | 15:07 |
| carloss | if we need exceptions, we can talk about it | 15:07 |
| * gouthamr makes a tardy entry | 15:08 | |
| * carloss waves at gouthamr | 15:09 | |
| carloss | I think we're in a good shape to merge client features until the end of the next week | 15:09 |
| carloss | and don't let the client slip to the next version | 15:09 |
| carloss | we'll get through the features in a bit | 15:10 |
| carloss | our second bugsquash of the cycle is also approaching quickly. It will happen in the week after the feature freeze | 15:10 |
| carloss | the week of Sep 01 - Sep 05 | 15:11 |
| carloss | we can have an extended contribution window and I was wondering if keeping the theme we did on previous bugsquashes close to this deadline would be okay with everyone | 15:12 |
| carloss | i.e. in progress bugs | 15:12 |
| carloss | getting us the chance to tackle a couple more bugs before we tag the first RC of the cycle | 15:12 |
| carloss | we can also use that opportunity to talk about stale bugs and decide together what to do with them | 15:13 |
| carloss | how does that sound? | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | would add any targeted for m-3 but would slip | 15:14 |
| carloss | ++ | 15:15 |
| carloss | great, I'll follow-up with more details in #openstack-manila | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | vhari and I can drive this, but it’s a short week in the US, so myself, ashrodri and vhari will not be around on Sep 1st.. so perhaps we can have a meeting on Sep 2nd at 1400 UTC and close out the bugsquash with this meeting next Thursday - wdyt? | 15:17 |
| carloss | gouthamr: sure thing | 15:17 |
| carloss | I won't be around that week and the next one (part of my last announcement) | 15:17 |
| carloss | but kick-off call Sep 2nd sounds in line with what we've done in the past | 15:18 |
| carloss | any other thoughts on this? Sai gireesh kpdev zgoggin Anoop_Shukla_ | 15:18 |
| zgoggin | Carloss: works for me! | 15:19 |
| Sai | Works for me. | 15:20 |
| kpdev | +1 | 15:20 |
| carloss | ack, thank you | 15:20 |
| carloss | so that's a plan | 15:21 |
| carloss | thanks for the suggestion gouthamr | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | sorry, I said next meeting, but meant Sep 4th | 15:21 |
| carloss | and for running the bugsquash as well | 15:21 |
| carloss | gouthamr++ | 15:21 |
| carloss | > sorry, I said next meeting, but meant Sep 4th | 15:21 |
| carloss | ++ | 15:21 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | +1 | 15:22 |
| gireesh | ++ | 15:22 |
| carloss | thanks for the feedback | 15:22 |
| carloss | let's switch topics | 15:22 |
| carloss | #topic Contd: Bridging the gap between community and contributing orgs: survey and metric analyses (fungi) | 15:22 |
| carloss | o/ fungi thanks for bringing this up | 15:23 |
| fungi | yw | 15:23 |
| * carloss followed up with the logs last week | 15:23 | |
| carloss | floor is yours :) | 15:23 |
| fungi | well, mainly just wondering if anyone has questions or observations related to what i covered last meeting | 15:23 |
| fungi | i'm happy to answer them now or whenever they occur to you | 15:24 |
| fungi | we're already in the process of updating the surveys with some additional questions about how teams express their development and review prioritization, in preparation for a new round of responses for the flamingo cycle | 15:24 |
| fungi | a lot of the feedback we've seen so far in various teams is that it's often not obvious to contributors why their changes don't get reviewed, so hoping we can come up with ideas for how to better set expectations around what each team is focusing their limited valuable time on | 15:25 |
| fungi | a lot of the negative experiences contributors have seem to boil down to miscommunication or a lack of communication setting mismatched expectations for them | 15:26 |
| fungi | some teams are doing a better job of expressing what they're working on and prioritizing, so we're hoping that we can take some of those positive examples and share them across openstack as a whole | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | (also an interesting communication on #openstack-tc from a couple of days ago along the lines of review practices and languishing feature proposals that don’t have committed/knowledgable maintainers reviewing them) | 15:28 |
| fungi | anyway, that's just me rambling, was there anything specific anyone wanted to dig into from last week? | 15:28 |
| fungi | if not, i don't really have anything else for now | 15:29 |
| carloss | that's very insightful information fungi, thanks for bringing it up | 15:30 |
| carloss | I have one question at the moment, regarding the review priorities | 15:30 |
| fungi | sure! | 15:30 |
| carloss | did the teams that enable the review-priority flag in gerrit have any feedback and/or some data to demonstrate whether it helped them prioritizing things? | 15:31 |
| carloss | that is something I've been curious about for some time and I think it'd be difficult to measure | 15:31 |
| fungi | not an answer really, but that's one of the questions i had and am hoping to get answers to with the new round of survey updates | 15:31 |
| fungi | i talked to the kolla team about it a little in their meeting yesterday | 15:32 |
| fungi | they do seem to be using that as part of their prioritization tracking, and i think the plan is to add some info about it to their contributor documentation | 15:32 |
| fungi | but we didn't really get into how it helps them, or exactly how they make use of it | 15:33 |
| fungi | i'm hoping their documentation updates will make that apparent | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | i see a couple of AIs for us: taking the contributor and maintainer surveys: | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | Contributor Survey: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openstack_contributor_satisfaction_survey | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | Maintainer Survey: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openstack_maintainer_satisfaction_survey | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | and, follow up with the feedback across teams, and discuss at the PTG | 15:33 |
| fungi | yeah, and if you schedule a ptg slot to talk about it please give me a heads up and i'll be happy to join in | 15:34 |
| carloss | fungi: ack, makes sense | 15:34 |
| carloss | and yes, a discussion at the PTG would be great | 15:34 |
| fungi | there's also going to be a forum session about it in paris, i think, for anyone who's planning to go | 15:35 |
| carloss | ++, that will be an interesting discussion | 15:36 |
| carloss | so I'd say: please make your feedback count and add your response to these surveys gouthamr linked if you haven't done it yet | 15:36 |
| carloss | ^ just reiterating to everyone | 15:36 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:37 |
| carloss | any more questions for fungi? | 15:37 |
| carloss | taking silence as no | 15:38 |
| carloss | thanks for bringing this up fungi | 15:39 |
| carloss | I'll schedule some time at the PTG and let you know | 15:39 |
| fungi | my pleasure | 15:39 |
| carloss | alright, let's talk review focus for the week :) | 15:40 |
| carloss | #topic Review Focus | 15:40 |
| carloss | we're almost at feature freeze week as I said and I see the featureful changes are getting some reviews | 15:41 |
| carloss | I revisited the share encryption core change earlier today and I think we're getting there | 15:41 |
| carloss | kpdev: thanks for keeping up with the review comments and for the patience on the reviews | 15:41 |
| carloss | and also thanks Sai for doing the same for the NetApp ONTAP driver change and testing the integration of this feature | 15:41 |
| carloss | I think we will be able to merge this feature in the upcoming days | 15:43 |
| kpdev | welcome, and thanks for detailed review. | 15:43 |
| carloss | kpdev: anytime | 15:43 |
| carloss | as for share backups: | 15:44 |
| carloss | zgoggin: thanks for working on the updates and the feedback provided in the change as well | 15:45 |
| carloss | I am about to complete a a review for this change | 15:45 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-manilaclient/+/950414 (Add option to override API endpoint) | 15:46 |
| carloss | I think this change can also make it to this release | 15:46 |
| carloss | thanks to all the reviewers that shared their thoughts | 15:47 |
| carloss | we had a couple of changes merging already | 15:47 |
| carloss | good progress :) | 15:47 |
| carloss | if you need more time to work on feedback or are facing issues, please let us know | 15:47 |
| carloss | we can discuss feature freeze exceptions if needed next week | 15:48 |
| carloss | does that make sense? | 15:48 |
| zgoggin | Thanks very much Carloss, I'm still working on a recipie for the tempest tests so will let you know perhaps in the main channel when ready. kpdev: I will hopefully have some time to look at your PRs as promised last week tomorrow. gouthamr: I spent some time this week trying to refactor the data managers backup methods into the base backup driver class but encountered some issues due to interdependency. I will write a | 15:49 |
| zgoggin | comment in the PR shortly. | 15:49 |
| carloss | zgoggin++ | 15:50 |
| carloss | thank you for looking into the reviews too :) | 15:50 |
| carloss | that's all I had for review focus | 15:51 |
| carloss | is there any other change you'd like to bring up today? | 15:51 |
| carloss | alright, we have some minutes for some bug triage | 15:52 |
| carloss | #topic Bug Triage | 15:52 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug triage etherpad) | 15:53 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2120650 A snapshot can be retrieved from any project when its ID is known | 15:54 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2120921 A share export location can be retrieved from any project when its ID is known | 15:54 |
| carloss | the related fixes were also submitted to gerrit | 15:54 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957431 (fix for snapshots) | 15:54 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957856 (fix for export locations) | 15:54 |
| carloss | kpdev gouthamr: can I have your eyes on these changes? | 15:54 |
| carloss | both bugs are already triaged | 15:55 |
| carloss | and last but not least on new bugs: | 15:55 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2121141 ([NetApp-ZAPI] CIFS share creation failing with "Failed to set aes encryption." error) | 15:55 |
| carloss | Sai: thanks for the bug report | 15:55 |
| Sai | Thank you Carloss! | 15:56 |
| carloss | fix looks good and was speed merged :) | 15:56 |
| Sai | Thank you kpdev,carloss,gireesh for quickly reviewing and approving the change! | 15:56 |
| Sai | > fix looks good and was speed merged :) | 15:57 |
| Sai | ++ | 15:57 |
| carloss | that wraps up the list of bugs I gathered for today | 15:57 |
| Sai | carloss: Need reviews for this as well. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957045 | 15:58 |
| carloss | alright, let's wrap up this meeting | 15:58 |
| carloss | Sai: sure | 15:58 |
| Sai | Thank you!! | 15:58 |
| carloss | thanks for addressing the review comments | 15:58 |
| carloss | will circle back | 15:58 |
| carloss | thank you for participating everyone | 15:58 |
| carloss | let's get back to #openstack-manila | 15:58 |
| carloss | have a great rest of your day! | 15:58 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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