Thursday, 2025-12-04

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila 15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Thu Dec  4 15:00:40 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
gouthamrcourtesy ping: dviroel vhari gouthamr carthaca Sai ashrodri gireesh Kumar_T Anoop_Shukla15:00
vharihi15:01
* gouthamr heh, pinged himself, needs coffee15:01
gouthamro/ 15:02
nileshthathagarhi15:02
Kumar_To/15:03
kpdevhi15:03
vhari:)15:04
gouthamrhello folks, ty for joining, lets get started15:05
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:05
gouthamrfirst off, about where we are in the release schedule:15:07
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/gazpacho/schedule.html (Gazpacho release schedule)915:07
gouthamrour spec freeze as planned is on Dec 18th 202515:08
gouthamrAll Manila specs targeted to 2026.1 Gazpacho must be approved by the end of the week. Spec authors are encouraged to schedule collaborative review discussions through the Manila Weekly IRC meetings.15:08
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila-specs+status:open 15:09
kpdevQoS spec was already discussed during PTG. Do you there is need of another collab ?15:09
gouthamr^ these are the ones currently uploaded, if they seem to be in order, i.e., passing CI and the author has received and acted upon review comments, and there're no big blockers identified, they will be merged around that deadline15:10
Anoop_Shuklakpdev: I have added a couple of questions on QoS. Please take a look once.15:10
gouthamrkpdev: up to you, not mandated.. if you see some unresolvable issue, you could discuss it here during this meeting, or on #openstack-manila as an alternative15:11
kpdevgouthamr: ack 15:11
kpdevAnoop: yes those comments answered few hours ago.15:12
Anoop_ShuklaOk..will take a look15:12
Anoop_ShuklaDoes Metadata changes for replica create need any specs?15:13
gouthamralthough the list of open reviews is long, we are only working on a few of these:15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/962706 (QoS Types)15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/968600 (Mount point name customization with Manage)15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/932637 (Subnet force deletion) 15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/953826 (VirtIOFS Testing)15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/959548 (remove v1 API)15:14
gouthamr#link 15:14
gouthamr#undo15:14
opendevmeetRemoving item from minutes: #link 15:14
kpdevAnoop: the spec for metadata already exist. You can reuse the same blueprint.15:14
gouthamrAnoop_Shukla: iirc, we discussed that, if your updates are covered by this spec, you're good15:15
gouthamr#link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/manila-specs/specs/yoga/metadata-for-share-resources.html (Metadata for all user facing resources)15:15
Anoop_ShuklaCool. Thanks.15:15
gouthamrif you're working on any other specification, please upload it to review asap so we can meet this deadline 15:16
gouthamrwe'll have very little activity during the end of the year15:17
gouthamra lot of tech companies observe year-end shutdowns, so please account for this.. if you see no reviews, it's possible folks are away from their computers and so expect delays 15:18
gouthamra week into the year (Jan 08th 2026) is milestone-2 of this release15:19
gouthamrso time seems to be flying15:19
kpdevwe better consider spec review on priority and close PRs by deadline of Dec 18th15:19
gouthamryeah, please do spare some cycles.. 15:20
gouthamrthe only other announcement i had today is some good news! Our Outreachy Internship project got funded, and we were able to get an intern working with us starting next week up until March 202615:21
Sai> Anoop_Shukla: iirc, we discussed that, if your updates are covered by this spec, you're good15:21
SaiThe updates will be covered as part of the existing spec as it is similar to older metadata controllers. Just wanted to confirm. Thanks! 15:21
gouthamrunable to deep link here, but15:22
gouthamr#link https://www.outreachy.org/alums/2025-12/ (Outreachy 2025-26) 15:22
SaiThank you kpdev/gouthamr !! 15:23
gouthamrwe'll have the intern join one of these meetings shortly and introduce themselves... would appreciate your help in making this a successful internship15:23
gouthamryou're welcome Sai 15:23
gouthamrthat's all the announcements i had today, does anyone else have any?15:23
hong-p[m]hi we discussed last ptg about manage created_at field, I created bp and CR. Should I create spec too?15:24
gouthamrhong-p[m]: nope, looks like the change is only touching the NetApp driver15:25
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/969546 (NetApp: Update created_at during manage operations) 15:26
gouthamrspecs would be useful if the API is changing, or there's a broader impact on the project, or the UX 15:27
gouthamrty for asking!15:27
hong-p[m]ok thanks!15:27
gouthamr#topic Review Focus15:28
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-gazpacho-review-focus (Gazpacho review focus)15:28
gouthamr^ some of the M-1 patches have merged, that pad needs an update15:29
gouthamron some of the driver changes there, i'd really like the maintainers to review the changes please.. 15:30
gouthamrexample: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/950393 15:31
gouthamrthis has been around a while, but, need some NetApp maintainers to add their + or -1s15:31
gouthamrany other changes to bring up today?15:33
gouthamr#topic Bug Triage (vhari)15:34
gouthamro/ vhari, the floor is yours.. 15:35
vharity gouthamr 15:35
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/213320315:35
vhariwe have a few bugs from skipped calls to catch up on as well 15:35
vharifor now pls focus on minor triage as usual15:36
gouthamrah, this seems interesting.. 15:38
gouthamri think its a medium bug, the helper is shared across back end drivers15:39
gouthamrit appears the reporter has a solution, but would like someone else to propose it?15:39
vhariack, ++15:39
gouthamrwe can ask, perhaps vhari - if that is the case, i can work with our outreachy intern to take this up as a good first task15:40
vhariwill post comment in bug for feedback 15:41
gouthamrty15:41
hong-p[m]Could you please add this on gazpacho release review list? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/96954615:41
gouthamrsure can hong-p[m] , but, please feel free to edit https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-gazpacho-review-focus youself too15:42
vharihong-p[m], noted .. moving on with bugs if no other comments :)15:42
vharinext up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2131653  15:43
gouthamrah, that CSI field is mutable, i wonder if 0.0.0.0 works instead, VolodymyrBoiko[m] ^15:44
gouthamrthink it can be a medium, because of the annoyance here:15:44
gouthamr* when deleting the share, rules get stuck being removed15:44
gouthamr* force delete seems to make no difference.15:44
gouthamrsigh, seems like a couple of bugs15:45
vhari++ will follow up with questions and comments in the bug15:45
Anoop_ShuklaBut isn't giving access with 0.0.0.0/0 a security issue?15:45
gouthamrmedium because i'm certain this is isolated to the VAST driver.. 15:46
gouthamrvhari: would you please tag fnn45 as the assignee? 15:46
vharigouthamr, will do 15:46
gouthamrAnoop_Shukla: it is, the CSI driver allows overrides, but by default requests 0.0.0.0/0 15:46
Anoop_ShuklaOkay.15:47
vharinext up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+bug/174931615:47
gouthamrAnoop_Shukla: because its unsure what should be the default.. can't be looking to resolve the IP addresses of kubernetes worker nodes/pods 15:48
Anoop_ShuklaHmm understand. But if customer is not aware of defaults used, the share can now be mounted anywhere and data can be accessed.15:49
gouthamrvhari: strange old bug, but, we can sanity check and close it if its not occurring on the latest branch15:50
Kumar_Thttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/198912615:50
Kumar_TIs this still relevant?15:50
gouthamrvhari: can you please assign this to rosekimondo ? 15:51
vharigouthamr, will do 15:51
gouthamrKumar_T: i dropped the milestone since i don't see a fix committed15:52
gouthamra proposed fix https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/856539 was abandoned15:52
gouthamrthe comments here may still be relevant: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/856539/comment/57fc5c3b_678a0f93/ 15:53
kpdevyes, this issue is solved using other fix , so we decided to abandon mentioned PR15:53
Kumar_T@kpd15:53
gouthamrso are you asking if the bug can be closed?15:53
Kumar_T@kpdev could you please add the details and close then?15:54
Anoop_Shuklakpdev: Was the fix merged back?15:55
Anoop_ShuklaSince we were planning to triage this from our end15:56
kpdevLet me check with Chuan what was actual fix we had. 15:57
vharifolks that's all the time we have for bugs today, will continue on next call .. ty all for pitching in 15:57
gouthamrthank you vhari 15:58
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:58
Kumar_TAs per documentation share server migration is not allowed when share had replicas15:58
Kumar_Thttps://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/contributor/share_server_migration.html15:59
Kumar_TThis has been blocked in share migration case in api.py15:59
Kumar_TBut missed in share server migration case15:59
Kumar_TJust want to confirm on same15:59
Kumar_Thttps://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/branch/master/manila/share/api.py#L193016:00
gouthamrhttps://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/cc54a3d95c84bb5fd3acea464650991b0d0d524e/manila/share/api.py#L3209-L321616:01
gouthamr^ seems like this check should work? 16:01
Kumar_TYes.16:02
Kumar_TWhen we tried it reached to driver code and attempted to migrate and succeeded as well16:02
gouthamrand the share server didn't have "share_replicas_migration_support"? 16:02
gouthamr(set to True)16:03
gouthamrhttps://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/branch/master/manila/share/drivers/netapp/dataontap/cluster_mode/drv_multi_svm.py#L4816:03
gouthamrhttps://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/branch/master/manila/share/drivers/netapp/dataontap/cluster_mode/lib_base.py#L59416:03
gouthamrwe're a bit over the hour, lets continue this on #openstack-manila 16:05
gouthamrthank you all for joining16:05
gouthamrsee you here in a week, and in #openstack-manila in the meantime16:05
gouthamr#endmeeting16:05
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