| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Apr 16 15:00:16 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| vhari | hi | 15:00 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: dviroel gouthamr carthaca Sai ashrodri gireesh Kumar_T | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| Anoop_Shukla | o/ | 15:01 |
| nathan_akin[m] | o/ | 15:01 |
| carthaca | Hi | 15:02 |
| Silvia-Wachira | o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:02 |
| kpdev | hi | 15:04 |
| carloss | good quorum, let's get started | 15:04 |
| carloss | hello everyone o/ | 15:04 |
| nathan_akin[m] | Helloo | 15:04 |
| carloss | our meeting agenda for today: | 15:05 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:05 |
| carloss | let's get started with our first topic: | 15:05 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| carloss | Schedule and Deadlines | 15:05 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html (Hibiscus Schedule) | 15:05 |
| Sai | o/ | 15:06 |
| carloss | the OpenInfra PTG is next week, and we'll talk about it soon | 15:06 |
| carloss | we're ~1 month away from the hibiscus 1 milestone | 15:07 |
| carloss | we don't have the Manila deadlines as part of the official schedule *yet* | 15:07 |
| carloss | so at this moment we should be looking at any bugs we want to get merged in time for hibiscus 1 | 15:08 |
| carloss | and traditionally our spec freeze is between m1 and m2. I am not expecting to change that | 15:08 |
| carloss | not sure if we'll need many specs this cycle, but next week's PTG should give us a good idea | 15:09 |
| carloss | second item in announcements, now related to PTG | 15:09 |
| carloss | PTG etherpad | 15:09 |
| carloss | #link #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/hibiscus-ptg-manila (Hibiscus PTG etherpad) | 15:09 |
| carloss | #undo | 15:09 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/hibiscus-ptg-manila | 15:09 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/hibiscus-ptg-manila (Hibiscus PTG etherpad) | 15:10 |
| carloss | I have updated the official PTG etherpad and added the time slots for the discussions | 15:10 |
| carloss | both days seem pretty busy | 15:11 |
| carloss | but I also made sure we'll have some breaks through the days so you can go stretch and hydrate :) | 15:11 |
| carloss | that said, please check the official PTG etherpad with the time slots and do let me know if you need some adjustments | 15:12 |
| carloss | I accommodated all requests of days/time so far | 15:12 |
| carloss | you'll also notice that both days are packed and we don't have a retrospective. I was chatting to gouthamr earlier this week and thought we would not need the slot on the Tuesday, but I'll likely need to take that back | 15:13 |
| * carloss is trying to make our meeting hours more efficient and really close to what we need | 15:14 | |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:14 |
| carloss | so for collab sessions or sessions that are nice to attend in a general purpose, we have: | 15:15 |
| carloss | Monday, Apr 20th | 15:15 |
| carloss | Collab session with Nova on VirtioFS: 15:00 UTC | 15:15 |
| carloss | OS-TC: 16:00 - 18:00 UTC | 15:15 |
| carloss | Tuesday, Apr 21st | 15:15 |
| carloss | PQC: 13:00-15:00 UTC | 15:15 |
| carloss | Eventlet 16:00 UTC | 15:15 |
| carloss | Friday, Apr 24th | 15:15 |
| carloss | OS-TC: 15:00-18:00 UTC | 15:16 |
| carloss | Tuesday 15:00 UTC: retrospective | 15:16 |
| carloss | Wednesday and Thursday: 14:00 - 17:00 UTC - both days of all things Manila in our very own room | 15:16 |
| carloss | and Friday 1 hour for a happy hour :) | 15:16 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | The PTG sessions will be on google meet? | 15:17 |
| carloss | all of this info is in the PTG etherpad, I tried also highlighting the important sessions to the team at the top this time | 15:17 |
| dviroel | happy hour is the most important one ;) | 15:17 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_: mostly meetpad | 15:17 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | okay | 15:17 |
| carloss | dviroel: 100% :D | 15:17 |
| carloss | our recommendation on meetpad is: avoid using VPNs in case you had meetpad issues in the past | 15:18 |
| carloss | and please do share feedback with us | 15:18 |
| carloss | we can forward that to the right people | 15:18 |
| carloss | that's all I had for the PTG announcement. Do you have any questions/requests on our PTG sessions? | 15:18 |
| carloss | please look at all topics and share feedback with me in #openstack-manila if you have something you'd like to share, so we can coordinate | 15:19 |
| carloss | taking silence as no | 15:21 |
| carloss | Core team updates | 15:21 |
| carloss | thank you very much for the feedback on the core additions | 15:21 |
| carloss | I followed up on the email thread in the mailing list earlier today | 15:22 |
| carloss | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/OXYHYA6UAIC5R4PC47URJ2NW2IGIFWT4/ (Core team updates) | 15:22 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_ carthaca: it is official, you're both part of the Manila core team | 15:22 |
| kpdev | congrats guys. | 15:23 |
| carloss | congratulations to you both, please check gerrit changes. You should see the CR -2, +2, w-1 and w+1 buttons from now on | 15:23 |
| carloss | we trust you will use this powers wisely | 15:24 |
| Sai | Congratulations both of you!! Anoop_Shukla_ carthaca | 15:24 |
| carloss | thank you for all your commitment to this project! | 15:24 |
| Anoop_Shukla | Thank all :) Will try to do my best with the new hat. | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | congratulations Anoop_Shukla_ and carthaca! thank you for the work you do! :) | 15:25 |
| carloss | speaking of using powers wisely, this is a must read: https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/contributor/manila-review-policy.html | 15:25 |
| carloss | these policies are very important to the project, so please make sure you understand and apply them in your workflows from now on | 15:27 |
| carloss | In the past, we took a more gradual approach on merging changes - which I think still applies - so please don't merge changes until you feel you're comfortable enough. Don't hesitate to ping us if you need any help | 15:27 |
| carloss | so in case you're in a same affiliation review situation - please hold and ask help from another core | 15:29 |
| carloss | s/ please hold and ask help from another core/ please hold and ask help from another core to merge it | 15:29 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:29 |
| nathan_akin[m] | Congratulations | 15:29 |
| hong-p[m] | congratulations! | 15:29 |
| carloss | anything else you'd like to share with us today? | 15:29 |
| carloss | I took a crazy amount of time to go through announcements today :D | 15:30 |
| carloss | all good things though | 15:30 |
| carloss | #topic Review Focus | 15:30 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-hibiscus-review-focus (Hibiscus review focus) | 15:31 |
| carloss | there are some changes in manila-tempest-plugin that could use some eyes: | 15:31 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-hibiscus-review-focus#L48 | 15:31 |
| carloss | ^ myself included | 15:31 |
| carloss | Sai: could you please fix the failing tests on: | 15:32 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-tempest-plugin/+/975489 | 15:32 |
| carloss | so we can review it? | 15:32 |
| Sai | Yes carloss, I will do it. Thank you!! | 15:32 |
| carloss | thank you! | 15:33 |
| carloss | there are some bug fixes targeting hibiscus-1 as well that could use some eyes | 15:33 |
| carloss | I just w+1 one of them | 15:34 |
| carloss | we also have two additional Dell features that could use some eyes | 15:34 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/957200 (Dell PowerScale: Added support of revert to snapshot) | 15:35 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/976101 (Dell QoS support) | 15:35 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_: could you please circle back to these | 15:35 |
| carloss | ? | 15:35 |
| * gouthamr needs to get back on these changes | 15:35 | |
| carloss | I'll review as well | 15:36 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Sure @carloss | 15:36 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_ gouthamr awesome, much appreciated :D | 15:36 |
| carloss | that's all changes I wanted to bring up as part of this meeting. Is there another change you'd like to bring up today? | 15:37 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | @Sai: would you want to share the DNS approaches we have finalized for review? | 15:38 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_: I think we also have that bug on triage list, so maybe we can jump to bug triage and discuss the bug? | 15:38 |
| carloss | #topic Bug Triage | 15:38 |
| carloss | s/maybe we can/let's | 15:39 |
| carloss | :) | 15:39 |
| carloss | vhari: o/ | 15:39 |
| vhari | ty carloss | 15:39 |
| vhari | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new | 15:39 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new | 15:39 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2147659 | 15:39 |
| vhari | let's review for minor triage today | 15:40 |
| carloss | sure | 15:41 |
| carloss | Sai: o/ thanks for the bug report | 15:41 |
| carloss | any additional thoughts you'd like to add? | 15:41 |
| Sai | <Anoop_Shukla_ carloss I have documented a couple approaches here for DNS issue: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/DNS_Configuration_for_SVM_in_DHSS_True_Mode | 15:41 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | So the issue is that ONTAP SVM needs DNS name service and hostname entries to resolve the barbican endpoint. | 15:42 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | At the time of DHSS=true, we will need to add it to the workflow | 15:43 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Sai has come up with some approaches to solve this problem. May be we can take a look at what might work for us to fix this issue.. | 15:44 |
| vhari | ty Anoop_Shukla_ is there something we need to discuss in this session? | 15:46 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Since the document is detailed, we can take a look at it offline and continue our conversation either on IRC and later in PTG | 15:47 |
| vhari | ack, we will continue to review comments and new approaches | 15:47 |
| carloss | Sai: thanks for documenting both approaches | 15:47 |
| vhari | next up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2148531 | 15:48 |
| carloss | Sai: both approaches do need admin intervention though, on something that we don't know how often will change. Is there an approach that doesn't need intervention from someone? | 15:48 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Do we have opinions on how likely are the DNS name service IPs and hostname mappings going to change and in what likely period? Also, isn’t changing the IPs internally going to be a breaking operation on RHOSO side as well? | 15:50 |
| carloss | > Do we have opinions on how likely are the DNS name service IPs and hostname mappings going to change and in what likely period? | 15:52 |
| carloss | it's hard to predict how often, but I think the concern is that in high available scenarios, it might change and would be nice to do not expect admin interventions every time it does, specially considering the low predictability constraints | 15:52 |
| carloss | > Also, isn’t changing the IPs internally going to be a breaking operation on RHOSO side as well | 15:53 |
| carloss | should be a breaking operation for most deployments, yes | 15:53 |
| carloss | > #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2148531 | 15:53 |
| carloss | thanks Nilesh for the bug report. I think the Dell folks might pick this up (they already assigned the bug to them) | 15:53 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Ok..since this is an share server level operation, I am not sure if it makes to take detals at share level as metadata. | 15:54 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Because this operation at share level can affect other shares in the same svm | 15:54 |
| vhari | that's all the time we have for bugs .. ty everyone for pitching in | 15:55 |
| vhari | let's continue on manila channel .. back to you carloss | 15:56 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_: yeah... | 15:56 |
| carloss | Sai Anoop_Shukla_ we do appreciate you sharing the design approaches you thought about in advance, so we can go through them | 15:56 |
| carloss | this will definitely make our discussion next week more productive | 15:57 |
| carloss | thanks for the bug report and for putting this together | 15:57 |
| carloss | vhari: thank you | 15:58 |
| carloss | we can also continue this in #openstack-manila | 15:58 |
| vhari | yw carloss :) | 15:58 |
| carloss | alright, let's wrap up the meeting | 15:58 |
| carloss | thank you for participating | 15:58 |
| carloss | let's get back to #openstack-manila | 15:58 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 15:58:57 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-04-16-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-04-16-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
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