| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 15:00:15 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: dviroel vhari gouthamr carthaca Sai ashrodri gireesh Kumar_T Anoop_Shukla dari-c Silvia-Wachira | 15:00 |
| Kumar_T | o/ | 15:01 |
| kpdev | hi | 15:01 |
| vhari | hi | 15:02 |
| gireesh | hi | 15:03 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | O/ | 15:04 |
| Silvia-Wachira | o/ | 15:04 |
| carloss | good quorum, let's get started | 15:04 |
| carloss | hello everyone :D | 15:04 |
| carloss | our meeting agenda: | 15:04 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings (Meeting agenda) | 15:04 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| carloss | Schedule and Deadlines | 15:05 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html (Hibiscus Schedule) | 15:05 |
| carloss | we're at R-10, meaning this is the week post bugsquash and the week before our feature proposal freeze | 15:05 |
| carloss | feature proposal freeze and new driver deadline* | 15:06 |
| * gouthamr sneaks in | 15:06 | |
| * carloss waves at gouthamr o/ | 15:06 | |
| carloss | what does feature proposal freeze and new driver deadline mean? | 15:06 |
| carloss | for feature proposal freeze: All new Manila features must be proposed and substantially completed, with unit, functional and integration tests by the end of the week. Collaborative review sessions will happen in the mid cycle, in order to speed up the review process. | 15:07 |
| carloss | new driver deadline: By the end of the week all new backend drivers for Manila must be substantially complete, with unit tests, and passing 3rd party CI. Drivers do not have to actually merge until feature freeze. | 15:07 |
| carloss | these two deadlines are happening next week | 15:07 |
| carloss | and over the previous weekly meeting we agreed to host our mid cycle two weeks earlier, considering the amount of details we have to hash out and that meeting earlier can mean more time to accommodate reviewr's feedback | 15:08 |
| carloss | so if you have not proposed a feature you have been working to gerrit yet, please do so. If you need exceptions for the next week's freature proposal freeze and new driver deadline, please ping me in #openstack-manila | 15:09 |
| carloss | about mid cycle: I think we'll need like 4 hours of discussions... I'm trying to be very precise with time, we might need more though | 15:10 |
| carloss | please add your topics to this etherpad: | 15:12 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Which etherpad? | 15:13 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/hibiscus-mid-cycle-manila | 15:13 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Okay cool! | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | big topic: foregoing access control - affects two drivers proposed this cycle: WEKAFS and DDN Lustre.. and possibly the HPE driver srinesh told us about | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | i don't know about timing this though; how do we want the driver proposals to work while we design this? | 15:14 |
| carloss | yes! big one indeed, and likely the reason why we wanted to move the mid cycle earlier :) | 15:14 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Deny by design? | 15:15 |
| itaiweismanweka | for WEKAFS: access control is at the Weka cluster level, so manila rules are no-ops. not deny by design - the cluster just handles it. worth discussing at mid-cycle | 15:16 |
| carloss | > Deny by design? | 15:17 |
| carloss | yeah, that would be the default behavior currently if possible... we'll need to chat about the new requirements of the new drivers though, and I'm assuming we might have more drivers impacted by this in the future | 15:17 |
| carloss | itaiweismanweka: yep - I've added a topic to the mid-cycle | 15:17 |
| itaiweismanweka | thanks carloss, looking forward to it | 15:18 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla gireesh share server replication are also good topics to have, I assume you're planning to add it to the etherpad as well | 15:19 |
| carloss | please add the topics though, there might be other features you'd like to bring up as part of the mid cycle | 15:19 |
| gireesh | yes, will add the share server replication | 15:20 |
| itaiweismanweka | carloss: just to clarify , does the access control question need to be resolved before the driver deadline, or can 989998 get reviewed against the current state and we iterate post-deadline? | 15:20 |
| carloss | itaiweismanweka: nope, I think the WEKA driver is in a good shape for the deadline tbh... it has CI, has tests | 15:21 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | carloss: yes..we will discuss the share server replication | 15:21 |
| carloss | the discussion will help us on what to do | 15:21 |
| itaiweismanweka | great, thanks carloss! | 15:21 |
| carloss | alright, I think we can use a two hour meeting on Thursday (14:00 to 16:00 UTC) | 15:22 |
| carloss | and I'm trying to think about the second slot | 15:22 |
| carloss | would Monday be a better choice than Tuesday for everyone? | 15:23 |
| vhari | +1 | 15:23 |
| carloss | alright, let's try Monday 14:00-16:00 UTC | 15:25 |
| carloss | if you'd like to suggest a different time slot, please let me know | 15:25 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:25 |
| carloss | any other announcements to share with us today? | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | on Thursday, it can begin at 1300 UTC if it helps folks | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | (on monday too, but, don't expect my creative juices to flow) | 15:26 |
| carloss | gouthamr: yeah, I was trying to avoid a 6am meeting for you :p | 15:26 |
| carloss | we can also try 3 hours straight on Thursday only and be done with the mid cycle within a single day | 15:27 |
| carloss | 13:00 - 16:00 | 15:27 |
| carloss | or 13:00 - 15:00 | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | either works for me, but, two day split is probably good to have.. will allow folks to prep/participate better | 15:28 |
| Kumar_T | +1 for single day | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | or not | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:28 |
| carloss | :) | 15:29 |
| carloss | alright, I'll communicate the exact time in #openstack-manila | 15:29 |
| carloss | let's jump into the other topics of the meeting | 15:30 |
| carloss | I'll ping folks and figure out what's the best time | 15:31 |
| carloss | #topic Hibiscus Bug Squash and Bug triage | 15:31 |
| srinesh | Can I include the inherit snapshot access rule capability and HPE driver snapshot support to the mid-cycle | 15:31 |
| carloss | srinesh: yes, totally! | 15:31 |
| carloss | in fact, I very much encourage you to do so, that's good attention to have in the change | 15:31 |
| carloss | thanks vhari for putting the bug list together | 15:32 |
| srinesh | sure, will include it | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | srinesh: yes, i've been missing your irc pings for one.. and have your patches on my todo list for a while. please do take up a midcycle slot, would help | 15:32 |
| srinesh | sure! | 15:33 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug triage etherpad) | 15:33 |
| carloss | so as a result of the last week's bugsquash, we were able to make a dent at the bug numbers! | 15:34 |
| carloss | Total Bugs Tracked: 90, Bugs merged/resolved: 16, Bugs in progress, blocked, or awaiting author/review updates: 74 | 15:35 |
| carloss | that's 16 bugs closed | 15:35 |
| carloss | and good progress on other changes | 15:35 |
| carloss | let's keep the momentum for this week though - I see some changes could still use some final push | 15:36 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-hibiscus-m1-bugsquash (Hibiscus bugsquash etherpad) | 15:36 |
| carloss | and also some extra being added | 15:36 |
| carloss | that's when we jump to bug triaging this week | 15:36 |
| carloss | I wanted to start with: | 15:37 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2161287 (Manila Resource-Lock List Trusts a Foreign project_id Filter) | 15:37 |
| carloss | this came out as a security bug report and you can see the discussion | 15:37 |
| carloss | in summary: we are allowing a user to query resource locks from a given project *if* they know the project UUID | 15:38 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/998388 (Prevent unauthorized resource locks search) | 15:38 |
| carloss | I've worked on the fix and I'd appreciate some eyes on it | 15:38 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_ gireesh kpdev gouthamr: could you please take a look? | 15:39 |
| carloss | we'll need an OSSN, as noted by gouthamr in the bug itself | 15:39 |
| carloss | and we'll work on it | 15:39 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Sure! | 15:39 |
| carloss | thank you | 15:41 |
| gireesh | sure | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | carloss: feel free to line up backport patches.. we can start working on the OSSN | 15:42 |
| carloss | gouthamr: sure, will do... even though the fix is "simple" I was hoping to get some feedback before I propose the backports, so I don't need to rework the backports to address comments | 15:43 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2156862 (NetApp driver: promoting replica of share with mount point name fails) | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | carloss: on it | 15:44 |
| carloss | tyvm :D | 15:44 |
| carloss | 2156862 sounds like a scenario we didn't test and it's very easy to run into | 15:45 |
| carloss | kpdev, are you or carthaca planning to pick up this issue? | 15:45 |
| carloss | or is it part of NetAppers plans? | 15:45 |
| Anoop_Shukla | Need to check | 15:47 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_: ack, can I assign this to you and ask you to please update the assignee accordingly? | 15:48 |
| carloss | would be nice to have some confirmation | 15:48 |
| carloss | imho, this is a medium prio bug | 15:48 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | sure | 15:48 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | But since Maurice has opened it up - any plans from SAP team to fix this? | 15:49 |
| carloss | kpdev ^ :) | 15:49 |
| carloss | maybe Kiran can help us answer it | 15:49 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | May be already done in downstream and waiting for upstream merge :) | 15:49 |
| carloss | yep | 15:49 |
| carloss | next up | 15:51 |
| carloss | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2158032 (NetApp: guard for cleanup previous snapmirrors relationships) | 15:51 |
| carloss | this feels like an RFE to help not failing or failing earlier | 15:52 |
| carloss | the report makes sense | 15:52 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | yes | 15:54 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | Validation seems to be missing | 15:54 |
| carloss | so I'll set it to low importance because it feels like an RFE | 15:55 |
| carloss | anyone willing to work on this bug? | 15:55 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | You can assign it to either of me, Kumar or Gireesh | 15:56 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | We will take a look | 15:56 |
| carloss | ack, thank you! | 15:56 |
| carloss | done | 15:57 |
| carloss | we have one more topic (the weka driver) | 15:57 |
| carloss | itaiweismanweka: sorry we only got a couple of minutes, thanks for adding it to the agenda | 15:58 |
| carloss | I'll try doing a first pass on reviews prior to the mid cycle | 15:58 |
| carloss | alright, let's wrap up the meeting | 16:00 |
| carloss | please add your topics to the mid cycle etherpad | 16:00 |
| carloss | I'll share more details today and send an email to the mailing list about the Mid Cycle | 16:00 |
| carloss | thank you for participating | 16:01 |
| carloss | let's get back to #openstack-manila | 16:01 |
| carloss | have a great day | 16:01 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:01:31 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-07-23-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-07-23-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-07-23-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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