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| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 15:00:20 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:00 |
| vhari | hi | 15:01 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: dviroel carthaca Sai gireesh Kumar_T Anoop_Shukla dari-c Silvia-Wachira | 15:01 |
| Kumar_T | Hi | 15:01 |
| sakumbha | o/ | 15:01 |
| Sai | o/ | 15:01 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:02 |
| sailaja | hi | 15:02 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting (Meeting agenda) | 15:02 |
| carloss | o/ hello everyone | 15:04 |
| carloss | I'm finally back after ~10 days of PTO | 15:04 |
| carloss | thank you folks for holding the fort in my absence | 15:05 |
| carloss | and thanks gouthamr for running the meetings | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:06 |
| carloss | alright, let's get started with our agenda | 15:06 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:06 |
| carloss | Schedule and Deadlines | 15:06 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html (Hibiscus Schedule) | 15:06 |
| carloss | we're still looking at the hibiscus scedule, even though our rc1 shipped | 15:07 |
| carloss | we should hold on merging changes at this point, unless they are critical fixes | 15:07 |
| carloss | that make us re-evaluate the release candidate | 15:07 |
| carloss | we're ~15 days away from the official 2026.2 Hibiscus release | 15:08 |
| carloss | and we're roughly 1 month away from the 2027.1 Indri PTG | 15:09 |
| kpdev_ | hi | 15:10 |
| carloss | which we already have an etherpad for planning topics | 15:10 |
| carloss | o/ kpdev_ | 15:10 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/indri-ptg-manila-planning (2027.1 Indri PTG planning etherpad) | 15:10 |
| carloss | please add topics | 15:10 |
| carloss | I've also created the retrospective etherpad: | 15:12 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/indri-ptg-manila-retrospective (Hibiscus cycle retrospective) | 15:12 |
| carloss | let's try taking a different approach for the upcoming retrospective and add all topics prior to the meeting | 15:13 |
| carloss | in the hope of having more time for discussions | 15:13 |
| carloss | as for the current release, this is our list of cycle highlights: | 15:14 |
| carloss | #ink https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/1003757 (Hibiscus cycle highlights) | 15:14 |
| carloss | plenty to be proud of, I tried noting major changes we completed as part of this list | 15:15 |
| carloss | we do have a "feature freeze" topic under announcements, but we'll get to that in a bit | 15:15 |
| carloss | are there any other announcements you'd like to share with us today? | 15:16 |
| carloss | alright, let's talk a bit about not specifically feature freeze but the topics that likely need some discussion after some consideration | 15:18 |
| carloss | first would be | 15:18 |
| carloss | Status of the features and CIs | 15:18 |
| carloss | why am I bringing this up? | 15:19 |
| carloss | recently we saw an issue being brought up that impacts one of the main principles of the drivers | 15:20 |
| carloss | the whole point of bringing this up is: this should and could've been avoided by more extensive testing on our end, more specifically scenario tests | 15:20 |
| carloss | and we realized two things: | 15:20 |
| carloss | 1. we're missing some basic scenario tests | 15:20 |
| carloss | 2. we should do our best to run scenario tests | 15:20 |
| carloss | but running scenario tests has always been a bottleneck for resource reasons, specially because the manila service image used to be very beefy | 15:21 |
| carloss | which is now changing thanks to a great effort from gouthamr to tackle one of our long wanted RFEs: make the manila service image something lightweight | 15:22 |
| carloss | this is something I'm bringing up as part of this meeting mostly in a sense of awareness and to gather some thoughts | 15:23 |
| carloss | we must have these definitions clear and also make the expectations clear on CI testing and the benefits we gain from it | 15:23 |
| carloss | so I'm adding this as a topic to the retrospective as well, and hoping we all take some time to digest it and think about it before our discussion in the upcoming ptg | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | that’s a good idea; we’ve just hoped that CI systems always enable the scenario tests to catch finer behavior that wouldn’t be in the territory of lightweight api tests, so this isn’t a new expectation.. | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:25 |
| carloss | awesome | 15:27 |
| carloss | the next topic is | 15:27 |
| carloss | Share Server Replication Feature status | 15:27 |
| carloss | not sure we have all interested and involved parties here, but the main reason I am bringing this up is to also note the intention to have the discussion about our processes around some of these huge features in the upcoming cycles | 15:28 |
| carloss | it's a great feature for customers, it's undeniable | 15:30 |
| carloss | and we should get it in as soon as we can - but at the same time we must look at this also in an angle of project maintainers and ensure we're doing the best for the long run | 15:31 |
| carloss | and also that we're not burning out our contributors while doing so | 15:31 |
| carloss | that said, I think we can also take the time to think about it in the next weeks | 15:32 |
| carloss | and please add topics to the retrospective etherpad | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | +1, realistically I’d want us to wait until the final RC deadline to merge large patches - am okay waiting longer if folks want more time to review/discuss things | 15:33 |
| carloss | ++ | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | I’d also appreciate one or more dedicated code walkthroughs if we can schedule it, prior to PTG? | 15:34 |
| kpdev_ | the Netapp driver part of feature has approvals earlier, we need more reviews on core PR for getting whole thing merged | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | gireesh: Kumar_T sanketh kpdev - wdyt? | 15:35 |
| Kumar_T | Most of the comments were addressed on core patch already, there are couple of comments awaiting for your response. | 15:36 |
| Kumar_T | would be helpful if you can review once | 15:37 |
| carloss | i need to revisit the changes again too - I also agree that we might benefit from another call to hash out details prior to or during ptg | 15:37 |
| Kumar_T | Driver related patches needs approval, all comments are addressed. | 15:38 |
| carloss | I'll follow-up on the patch, and let's see if we can meet in case needed | 15:39 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:40 |
| Kumar_T | Thanks carloss. | 15:40 |
| carloss | let's jump to | 15:41 |
| carloss | #topic Review Focus | 15:41 |
| carloss | as we mentioned, we're avoiding to merge big features/patches before the final RC | 15:41 |
| carloss | is there a major issue you encountered while testing features in the recent weeks? | 15:41 |
| carloss | at this time, we're only talking release critical | 15:42 |
| carloss | taking silence as no | 15:44 |
| carloss | #topic Bug Triage | 15:44 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new | 15:44 |
| carloss | vhari: o/ | 15:44 |
| vhari | ty carloss | 15:44 |
| carloss | floor ir yours | 15:44 |
| carloss | s/ir/is | 15:44 |
| * gouthamr I think today’s the deadline to tag manila-tempest-plugin | 15:44 | |
| vhari | first off, thanks to everyone who contributed to the bugsquash | 15:44 |
| carloss | gouthamr: hmm, well noted... will +1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/1005552 | 15:45 |
| carloss | will update the hash though, we virtiofs cold migration tests also landed | 15:45 |
| vhari | so here are the post event stats "Total Bugs Tracked": 65, "Bugs merged/resolved": 6, "Bugs in progress, blocked, or awaiting author/review updates": 55, "deferred to 2027.1": 4 | 15:46 |
| vhari | also posted to the etherpad | 15:46 |
| carloss | always nice to have some bugs merged | 15:47 |
| carloss | vhari: thank you for putting the numbers together | 15:47 |
| vhari | carloss, yw, indeed | 15:47 |
| carloss | there was something that did not help much, which was the bugsquash dates colliding with feature freeze exceptions | 15:47 |
| carloss | meaning people had their attention split | 15:48 |
| carloss | and we didn't get enough review quorum to make an even bigger impact | 15:48 |
| carloss | that's also worth noting on the retrospective | 15:48 |
| vhari | ack, if anyone is interested, post event contributions are welcomed : ) | 15:49 |
| carloss | +1 | 15:49 |
| vhari | so there were no new bugs this week to chat | 15:50 |
| vhari | does anyone have a bug to discuss here? | 15:50 |
| kpdev_ | yes I have created PR https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1005578 and waiting for review on approach, and then will add releasenotes during review | 15:50 |
| kpdev_ | bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2167240 | 15:50 |
| vhari | ty kpdev_ for the heads up | 15:51 |
| carloss | thanks for the bug fix, I'm going to take a look at it | 15:51 |
| carloss | as it is not release critical at this point, we can merge it after the final RC and backport it | 15:52 |
| vhari | +1 | 15:52 |
| vhari | if no other issues .. back to you carloss :) | 15:52 |
| carloss | thank you very much, vhari | 15:53 |
| vhari | yw as always | 15:53 |
| carloss | #topic Open Discussion | 15:54 |
| carloss | again, please add your topics to the PTG planning etherpad | 15:55 |
| carloss | I'll get the timeslots ready as soon as I can | 15:56 |
| carloss | and I can share them with you | 15:56 |
| carloss | but please expect the same format as the previous PTGs | 15:56 |
| carloss | alright, let's wrap up this meeting | 15:57 |
| SilviaWachira[m] | Is there a criteria for adding topics? | 15:57 |
| carloss | SilviaWachira[m]: not quite :) | 15:58 |
| SilviaWachira[m] | ok | 15:58 |
| carloss | just anything that benefits/impacts the manila team or shares updates | 15:58 |
| carloss | and can use the manila team's attention | 15:58 |
| carloss | you might have great topics, e.g. openstackclient migration :) | 15:58 |
| SilviaWachira[m] | I will look into that for sure | 15:59 |
| carloss | awesome | 15:59 |
| carloss | SilviaWachira[m]++ | 15:59 |
| carloss | thank you for participating everyone | 15:59 |
| carloss | have a great day and rest of your week! | 16:00 |
| carloss | see you in #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 16:20 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 16:20:46 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:20 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-09-17-15.00.html | 16:20 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-09-17-15.00.txt | 16:20 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2026/manila.2026-09-17-15.00.log.html | 16:20 |
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