| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 15:00:20 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:00 |
| carloss | we're still hanging out on | 15:01 |
| carloss | #link https://meet.google.com/wnk-iqny-yco (Manila share server replication collab review session) | 15:01 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | O/ | 15:02 |
| vhari | hi | 15:06 |
| sakumbha | o/ | 15:06 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:09 |
| carloss | alright, switching focus to this meeting now :) | 15:09 |
| carloss | hello everyone and welcome | 15:09 |
| carloss | our meeting agenda for today: | 15:09 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting (Meeting agenda) | 15:09 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: Sai gireesh Kumar_T Silvia-Wachira | 15:10 |
| gireesh | o/ | 15:10 |
| carloss | the recording of the collab review session will be posted in the #openstack-manila YouTube channel | 15:10 |
| carloss | oops | 15:10 |
| carloss | and in #openstack-manila | 15:10 |
| carloss | when we have the video uploaded | 15:10 |
| carloss | that said, let's get started | 15:10 |
| SilviaWachira[m] | o/ | 15:10 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:11 |
| carloss | Schedule and Deadlines | 15:11 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html (Hibiscus Schedule) | 15:11 |
| carloss | penultimate week sharing this schedule | 15:12 |
| carloss | until we move to the Indri schedule | 15:12 |
| carloss | we're still holding back on big changes as we wait for the final RC | 15:12 |
| carloss | and observing critical bugs | 15:12 |
| carloss | if they show up | 15:12 |
| carloss | the second announcement is | 15:13 |
| carloss | PTG planning etherpad | 15:13 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/indri-ptg-manila-planning | 15:14 |
| carloss | we're already gathering topics for the PTG | 15:14 |
| carloss | so please add any topics you'd like to bring up at the PTG week to this etherpad | 15:14 |
| carloss | I've scheduled some time slots for our discussions: | 15:14 |
| carloss | #link https://ptg.opendev.org/ (PTG bot) | 15:15 |
| carloss | the meat of our discussions will happen on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday | 15:15 |
| carloss | why not Monday and Tuesday? | 15:15 |
| carloss | there's a community-wide push to make collab sessions in the beginning of the weeks, so that teams can focus on their topics later in the week | 15:16 |
| carloss | I pinged Uggla for a collab session with the Nova team | 15:16 |
| carloss | we did not celebrate this recently, but | 15:16 |
| carloss | gouthamr did an amazing job to land his first feature in Nova (Cold Migration for VirtioFS) | 15:16 |
| carloss | excellent work | 15:16 |
| carloss | and lucky us he's not planning to stop there | 15:17 |
| carloss | so we'll need some time in the nova room to discuss hot attachment | 15:17 |
| carloss | all great enhancements for manila | 15:17 |
| carloss | and nova, of course | 15:17 |
| carloss | and that brings us to the last announcement I had | 15:18 |
| carloss | PTG retrospective etherpad | 15:18 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/indri-ptg-manila-retrospective | 15:18 |
| carloss | unlike previous PTGs, we will no longer leave time for adding topics at the beginning of our retrospective | 15:19 |
| carloss | meaning we should go add any topics we find relevant before the session | 15:19 |
| carloss | so I would really appreciate if you could help us populate what went well in the Hibiscus release and what we can do to improve in Indri | 15:19 |
| carloss | this release has great material and definitely will produce nice discussions | 15:20 |
| carloss | this is an attempt to save time and cover more topics into the PTG | 15:20 |
| carloss | I have another "announcement" that i will keep to the end of the meeting in open discussion | 15:20 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:21 |
| carloss | is there an announcement you'd like to share with the community today? | 15:21 |
| carloss | #topic Review Focus | 15:23 |
| carloss | we're at a time of this release that the client has shipped and we're waiting the final RC | 15:23 |
| carloss | and the situation is the one I mentioned earlier: we're holding on major changes atm | 15:25 |
| carloss | and looking at possible release blockers | 15:25 |
| carloss | so far, so good | 15:25 |
| carloss | but that doesn't prevent us from making progress as we're doing in the share server replication feature collab review session | 15:26 |
| carloss | kpdev: is looking for feedback on | 15:27 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1005578 | 15:27 |
| carloss | I'm slowly getting to it | 15:27 |
| carloss | thank you for the patience | 15:27 |
| carloss | Anoop_Shukla_ could you also please take a look? | 15:27 |
| kpdev | yeah, addressed the comments from Goutham. Need another round of review and also on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1003950 | 15:28 |
| carloss | ack | 15:28 |
| carloss | will do | 15:29 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:30 |
| carloss | anything else you'd like to bring up as part of review focus? | 15:30 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | ACk | 15:30 |
| carloss | ty | 15:31 |
| carloss | #topic Bug Triage (vhari) | 15:31 |
| carloss | link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) | 15:31 |
| vhari | ty carloss | 15:31 |
| * gouthamr will get back to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1005578 | 15:31 | |
| vhari | lets dive in with #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2167839 | 15:32 |
| vhari | looking for minor triage for now | 15:33 |
| carloss | kpdev: thanks for the report | 15:33 |
| carloss | is this part of your plans? or something that needs NetApp folks to dive into? | 15:33 |
| kpdev | yes, we have fix | 15:34 |
| carloss | and what is the side effect of this issue? | 15:34 |
| kpdev | I will upload PR | 15:34 |
| carloss | oh | 15:34 |
| carloss | kpdev: ack | 15:34 |
| carloss | thank you | 15:34 |
| carloss | does this prevent share/share server creation? | 15:34 |
| carloss | if so, likely a medium prio bug | 15:35 |
| kpdev | this is PR https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1006504 | 15:35 |
| kpdev | why its not reflected on bug | 15:35 |
| carloss | it's missing a Closes-Bug: #<> | 15:35 |
| carloss | in the commit message | 15:35 |
| carloss | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1006504/2//COMMIT_MSG | 15:35 |
| kpdev | thanks, done | 15:36 |
| carloss | thank you | 15:36 |
| carloss | not sure it will fix the issue at the moment - the integration with launchpad was a bit broken for some time | 15:36 |
| carloss | so it was only picking up the tag from the message in case the PS was submitted for the first time | 15:37 |
| carloss | iirc | 15:37 |
| vhari | ty carloss kpdev | 15:37 |
| carloss | np - just updated some fields too | 15:37 |
| carloss | and linked it in the comments | 15:37 |
| vhari | next up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2164609 .. revisiting as it's a H and proposed fix has a merge conflict | 15:38 |
| vhari | do we need any additional considerations for this bug? | 15:38 |
| carloss | hmm, interesting | 15:39 |
| carloss | I think we mostly need reviews | 15:39 |
| carloss | apart from the rebase | 15:39 |
| carloss | kpdev Anoop_Shukla_ can you please take a look? I'll do it as well | 15:39 |
| vhari | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/1001620 | 15:40 |
| Anoop_Shukla_ | It has merge conflicts.. | 15:40 |
| carloss | yep | 15:40 |
| carloss | gouthamr: could you please rebase the change? | 15:40 |
| vhari | will post a comment in the bug .. | 15:42 |
| carloss | tyty | 15:42 |
| vhari | with that said .. that's a wrap for bugs | 15:42 |
| carloss | vhari: great, thank you :) | 15:43 |
| vhari | ty for all the good discussions | 15:43 |
| vhari | yw, back to you carloss :) | 15:43 |
| carloss | ty for putting the list together and triaging with us | 15:43 |
| carloss | #topic Open Discussion | 15:43 |
| carloss | so | 15:44 |
| carloss | two things I'd like to bring up | 15:44 |
| carloss | first being | 15:44 |
| carloss | an incentive for project teams to document their path to core | 15:45 |
| carloss | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/KPLX44YX6VEAJT4SZ3T7CJ3K2U6HJUTZ/ | 15:45 |
| carloss | in summary: it would be nice if we documented what is required to become (and maintain) your core reviewer status | 15:46 |
| carloss | after looking at our documentation, maybe we can add some paragraphs to | 15:47 |
| carloss | #link https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/contributor/contributing.html | 15:47 |
| carloss | or edit it to hold a link to a different page | 15:47 |
| carloss | but this is important to do | 15:47 |
| carloss | imho this team is in a good state for welcoming and inviting collaboration from maintainers, leading to a recent increase in the core reviewers headcount | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | i think we have some prior art, but definitely a lot of unwritten/tribal knowledge in terms of practices | 15:48 |
| carloss | ++ | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | the underlying theme is earning trust by reviewing, gaining mastery of the code base, thinking about the benefit of the project (with an ability to set aside $employer's concern if necessary) and reflecting the values of the community that includes the current core team | 15:50 |
| carloss | gouthamr: well said :) | 15:50 |
| carloss | a bunch of it will overlap with other teams | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | each of those are loaded, and the core team here has an informal mentorship path for close to a decade now.. so "mastery of the codebase" can be acquired on the job, but existing core members would mentor folks in the other areas | 15:51 |
| carloss | yep - motivation and willingness are important driving factors on grooming new core reviewers | 15:52 |
| carloss | I can take the TODO on that documentation | 15:53 |
| carloss | and possibly bring it up at the PTG | 15:53 |
| carloss | how does that sound? | 15:53 |
| carloss | the other thing I'd like to bring up (if I still didn't lose you) | 15:54 |
| carloss | is something I'll keep bringing up for the next couple of weeks | 15:54 |
| carloss | we're being asked to fill the contributor/maintainer surveys | 15:55 |
| carloss | and I'd love to continue the trend that this team set for the past two cycles | 15:55 |
| carloss | to be the team more engaged in the responses | 15:55 |
| carloss | so I'll quote Ildiko: | 15:55 |
| carloss | If you participated in the release __as a project maintainer, please fill out the maintainer survey__: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openstack_maintainer_experience_survey | 15:55 |
| carloss | If you participated in the release __as a (non-maintainer) project contributor, please fill out the contributor survey__: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openstack_contributor_experience_survey | 15:55 |
| carloss | your feedback is really valuable | 15:56 |
| carloss | and that was also condensed in another email that Ildiko sent to the mailing list: | 15:56 |
| carloss | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/KLUURVAJWNJCNBOVYNX5CXZ3C2F4Y3ZU/ | 15:56 |
| carloss | so please take some time to fill the responses - I'll nag you again next week with the links :P | 15:57 |
| carloss | and I really appreciate you showing up and responding | 15:57 |
| carloss | that's all I had for $topic | 15:57 |
| carloss | anything else you'd like to bring up today? | 15:57 |
| carloss | taking silence as no... | 15:58 |
| carloss | let's wrap up this meeting | 15:58 |
| carloss | thank you for participating | 15:58 |
| carloss | let's get back to #openstack-manila | 15:58 |
| carloss | have a great day! | 15:58 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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