Tuesday, 2016-04-12

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vilobhmm11#startmeeting quotas-wg17:33
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 12 17:33:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vilobhmm11. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:33
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:33
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quotas-wg)"17:33
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'quotas_wg'17:33
vilobhmm11hi guys17:33
vilobhmm11sorry i got stuck in traffic today and couldn't make it on time17:34
vilobhmm11mc_nair, DuncanT, ninag : ping17:34
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harlowjavilobhmm11 yo yo17:46
vilobhmm11harlowja : ping17:46
harlowjalet me know if want to chat about the cross-project quota thingy for this library17:47
harlowjathat i'm somehow the host of, lol17:47
vilobhmm11harlowja : sure , wanted to discuss about the need for reservation17:47
harlowjaaka, https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9492?goback=117:47
harlowjai have a feeling that i might not be the best person to talk about that17:47
harlowjabuttttt vilobhmm11 u might be ;)17:47
vilobhmm11harlowja : sure will do17:48
vilobhmm11i can talk about it17:48
vilobhmm11as i mentioned yesterday too; but it would be nice if you are around :)17:48
harlowja:)17:49
harlowjaya17:49
vilobhmm11harlowja : ^^17:49
vilobhmm11harlowja : about the quota engine17:49
harlowja?17:50
vilobhmm11as per the spec it will take the project name and list of models as input17:50
raildoQijing, ^17:50
Qijingyes17:50
vilobhmm11can we just give the projects name and be able to get/construct the models17:50
vilobhmm11i don;t think so; hence thought will need to pass in the models list as well17:51
vilobhmm11harlowja : do you think passing models info is an unecessary peice of information ?17:51
vilobhmm11harlowja : ^^17:52
harlowjahmmm17:52
harlowjai'd say make it possible, but don't require it17:52
harlowjaif people want to pass in there own model with X other things, sure, make it possible to do that17:52
harlowjabut i wouldn't require it17:52
vilobhmm11harlowja : also regarding the existing state of transactions (when related to quota ops) in nova17:53
vilobhmm11or cinder17:53
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vilobhmm11harlowja : There often isn't a single DB transaction that creates or17:54
vilobhmm11updates or deletes something in Nova. API calls typically traverse 3 or17:54
vilobhmm11more separate compute and controller node services, saving state17:54
vilobhmm11transitions to a resource record sometimes *dozens* of times over the17:54
vilobhmm11course of the API call -- many of which are entirely asynchronous.17:54
harlowjayup17:55
harlowjaits sucky17:55
harlowjaso u have to have imho a concept of a seq_id then17:55
harlowjaand this seq_id u pass around17:55
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harlowjaor remove those traversals if u can17:55
vilobhmm11but in our case as well the quota engine relies on this infra ; quota engine needs to pass in some additional info to make it better17:56
vilobhmm11harlowja : sure17:57
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vilobhmm11harlowja : but this seq-id needs to be kept track by the library right ?17:58
vilobhmm11removing them is not that strightforward17:58
vilobhmm11aw we are running out of time…will talk in some other channel17:59
vilobhmm11#endmeeting17:59
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 12 17:59:21 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-04-12-17.33.html17:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-04-12-17.33.txt17:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-04-12-17.33.log.html17:59
harlowjavilobhmm11  k17:59
harlowjavilobhmm11  does the quota-wg have its own IRC channel yet?17:59
harlowjaopenstack-quota or something :-p17:59
vilobhmm11harlowja : not yet18:00
harlowjak, well i'm in #openstack-quota now18:00
harlowjalol18:00
vilobhmm11but its a good idea to have one :P18:00
harlowjaup to u18:00
harlowjaget all the quota people in one place18:00
harlowjamight be useful18:00
vilobhmm11sure :) thanks harlowja!18:01
harlowjanp18:01
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fungireminder: no cross project specs meeting this week http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092035.html21:04
fungithingee: your subject was vague and tagless this time!21:04
thingeefungi: dang it21:05
thingeelet me resend that21:05
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fungii read it, but didn't notice the subject was like that until i went back looking for it in the archives just now21:06
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