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| ildikov | #startmeeting cinder-nova-api-changes | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 27 17:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder-nova-api-changes)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder_nova_api_changes' | 17:00 |
| ildikov | scottda ildikov DuncanT ameade cFouts johnthetubaguy jaypipes takashin alaski e0ne jgriffith tbarron andrearosa hemna erlon mriedem gouthamr ebalduf patrickeast smcginnis diablo_rojo gsilvis | 17:00 |
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| scottda | hi | 17:00 |
| DuncanT | hi | 17:00 |
| ildikov | hi :) | 17:00 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 17:01 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:01 |
| ildikov | it seems hemna is on vacation, so I guess we can start | 17:02 |
| ildikov | I did not really modify the agenda on the etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes | 17:02 |
| ildikov | as we still have the refactor and the testing as the two major items | 17:02 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: do you have any updates? | 17:02 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: just sorting through some things on the tempest code. I'd really appreciate some feedback on the cinder side, and merge if we're moving forward | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: of course, asking for help with unit tests :) | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: and versioning mess | 17:03 |
| scottda | jgriffith: O | 17:03 |
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| ildikov | jgriffith: unit test in Nova or Cinder or both? :) | 17:03 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | cinder to start | 17:04 |
| scottda | I'll add some code for microversioning to your patches. | 17:04 |
| scottda | Assuming that's the "versioning mess" | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | ie if folks want to speed things up do follow ups | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | on the Cinder side | 17:04 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: ok, we can sync up after the meeting on that so we don't overwrite each other's changes | 17:04 |
| ildikov | scottda: yeah, that's the one and I think you're the best to teach all of us here on how to do that properly, so thanks much in advance | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: BTW, you appear to be correct about the cross project changes | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: for some reason I thought that just *worked* now | 17:05 |
| scottda | ildikov: I'll work on the Cinder side. Eventually we need to figure out the Nova code to use Cinder microversions. This will be the first time for that. | 17:05 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: the client code you mean? | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: yes | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | although... maybe there's something else still wrong. Running tempest full locally again | 17:06 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: Devstack did not seem to use the source for clients to install | 17:07 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: right, I believe the default is pip only | 17:07 |
| jgriffith | anywho... | 17:07 |
| smcginnis | Do you need to use SOURCE_FROM_GIT or whatever that config is? | 17:07 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah, but I can't tell gate to do that :) | 17:08 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: that's what I do locally | 17:08 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah, that does make it a bit tricky then! | 17:08 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: just making sure I didn't miss something, but when I ran locally it all looked "ok" | 17:08 |
| jgriffith | granted I only ran "volumes" | 17:09 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: right, I know I saw that somewhere, thanks for reminding :) | 17:09 |
| smcginnis | So we need a client released with the changes before we can actual implement the support for it. | 17:09 |
| mriedem | you should be able to test the client changes + the nova changes | 17:09 |
| mriedem | with some throw away patch | 17:09 |
| mriedem | which would probably be a devstack change | 17:09 |
| mriedem | GIT_BRANCH for cinderclient would be the ref of the cinderclient change probably | 17:10 |
| mriedem | and the devstack change would depend on the nova change, which depends on the cinderclient change | 17:10 |
| mriedem | the devstack DNM would actually depend on nova and cinder changes both | 17:10 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: yeah, so like create a job specifically for this effort? | 17:10 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Oh, that's so crazy it might actually work. :) | 17:10 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: not a job, just a throw away default config | 17:10 |
| mriedem | smcginnis: we do it frequently | 17:10 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: lol :) | 17:10 |
| scottda | jgriffith: Just change SOURCE_FROM_GIT=blah in devstack | 17:10 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: hmm... ok, I'll have to pick your brain (or someones) on how to set that up | 17:11 |
| smcginnis | Makes sense. | 17:11 |
| mriedem | scottda was doing something similar the other day | 17:11 |
| scottda | Yeah, thanks mriedem that worked great | 17:11 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: scottda ok, perfect | 17:11 |
| ildikov | cool, this will make life a bit easier from early testing perspective, thanks | 17:13 |
| ildikov | jgriffith and/or scottda will you set this up? | 17:14 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: I'll work with scottda after the meeting if he's got time? | 17:15 |
| scottda | yes, I've time | 17:15 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: cool, tnx | 17:15 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: do you have more work items for the Cinder side things we would need to find assignees for? | 17:16 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: I can have a look today, micro-versions and unit tests are the two items on my list | 17:17 |
| ildikov | yeah, let me quickly action those | 17:17 |
| ildikov | #action ildikov to work on unit tests for the Cinder side changes | 17:18 |
| ildikov | #action scottda to put together microversioning for the Cinder side changes | 17:18 |
| scottda | cool | 17:18 |
| ildikov | #action jgriffith scottda to upload a temporary fix for having the client code used by Devstack on the gate | 17:19 |
| ildikov | ok, I think we have the bigger items covered and we can look into a few more after meeting/during the week | 17:20 |
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| ildikov | jgriffith: anything more for the refactor? | 17:20 |
| ildikov | ok, we can move to the testing side | 17:23 |
| ildikov | scottda: any updates? | 17:23 |
| scottda | I got a review from mriedem on the tempest tests... | 17:24 |
| scottda | thanks for that. | 17:24 |
| scottda | I've replied and posted a new PS | 17:24 |
| scottda | othewise, I've something broken in my job naming...I'll have a look at that next | 17:24 |
| scottda | This is a dependency: | 17:25 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325895/ | 17:25 |
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| scottda | That could use a review, if anyone is up for it. | 17:25 |
| mriedem | scottda: mtreinish's comments weren't addressed | 17:25 |
| mriedem | i.e. why are we parsing this rather than just passing it through to tempest.conf | 17:26 |
| mriedem | you could probably also point out in the review that you're dependent on it | 17:26 |
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| scottda | mriedem: OK. I hoped the author of the patch would answer that. | 17:26 |
| mriedem | and have a change up to project-config for a multi-backend job | 17:26 |
| scottda | I thought I did say that in the review... | 17:26 |
| mriedem | scottda: if you depend on it, i wouldn't count on others :) | 17:26 |
| scottda | OK, well, I'll put it in my queue to deal with that. | 17:27 |
| scottda | mriedem: I've this in project-config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330678/ | 17:28 |
| ildikov | scottda: you metioned it, maybe it wasn't direct enough :) | 17:29 |
| scottda | ildikov: I guess so. | 17:29 |
| scottda | So, I'll circle around on all those patches and get some changes up to address comments, etc. | 17:30 |
| mriedem | scottda: more -1 on the project-config change :) | 17:30 |
| mriedem | easy stuff | 17:31 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I cannot blink as fast as you can comment on and -1 patches :) | 17:32 |
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| scottda | haha mriedem is fast indeed | 17:33 |
| ildikov | scottda: mriedem: IIRC you had a quite long chat around these Tempest and related patches last time. Is there anything remaining we would need to sort out? | 17:33 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone back to review the tempest change yet | 17:33 |
| scottda | yeah, I need feedback from mriedem first.... | 17:34 |
| ildikov | ok, then let's continue that chat in the review | 17:36 |
| ildikov | #action mriedem to check on scottda's tempest change, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326681 | 17:37 |
| ildikov | scottda: anything else to this topic? | 17:37 |
| scottda | no, I'm good | 17:37 |
| ildikov | scottda: cool, thanks for the updates | 17:38 |
| ildikov | as the multi-attach work pretty much depends on the Cinder refactor I made only small changes to code for now | 17:38 |
| ildikov | like removing some checks in the block_device code etc. | 17:39 |
| ildikov | we will only enable multi-attach in Nova for the new code path that uses the new API calls in Cinder | 17:40 |
| ildikov | I will also look into the version check code that will be needed on the Nova side as it can be implemented now and then updated later | 17:40 |
| ildikov | mriedem: if/when we can get the gate fixed and see the whole flow hopefully working, will there be any reasonable chance to get some review attention this in Nova? | 17:41 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone back over john's changes in nova since last week | 17:42 |
| mriedem | we're crunching for non-priority FF this thursday so i think people are pushing on things that are closer to making that date | 17:43 |
| mriedem | i know i have been | 17:43 |
| ildikov | mriedem: the patch is pretty small now, if the base direction looks good to you, then we can work on the micro-version code and ask you to check when the Nova changes is adapted to that | 17:43 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:44 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I know, but I would not want to actually block the refactor work for that long if there's a chance | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | so is the question if we're going to land the new cinder api + client + nova changes to use it by thursday? | 17:45 |
| mriedem | because i don't think ^ is going to happen | 17:46 |
| ildikov | it does not seem realistic until this Thursday | 17:46 |
| mriedem | honestly i think a win for newton is getting the new cinder APIs available and tested | 17:47 |
| mriedem | and then building on using those in nova in ocata | 17:47 |
| mriedem | with the nova dev happening in newton | 17:47 |
| mriedem | so we can flush out bugs | 17:47 |
| mriedem | cinder APis in newton i mean, assuming those can get in by newton FF on 9/2 | 17:48 |
| mriedem | i don't know what cinder does about schedules | 17:48 |
| ildikov | we still needs some eyes on the Nova side changes as I'm doing my best, but I'm not an expert yet | 17:48 |
| mriedem | yeah i realize | 17:49 |
| mriedem | i will try to this week, just lots of other people hammering me for things to get in by thursday | 17:49 |
| ildikov | thanks for confirming :) | 17:49 |
| ildikov | can you check on things after this week as well? | 17:50 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:51 |
| ildikov | I just would like to clarify how we can continue after the freeze | 17:51 |
| mriedem | it would be good to have some decent idea of the path forward by the nova midcycle | 17:52 |
| ildikov | I don't want to argue or anything | 17:52 |
| ildikov | yeah, I just wanted ask when you have it | 17:52 |
| ildikov | ? | 17:52 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Oh yeah, we should probably try to schedule a cinder-nova midcycle link again. | 17:52 |
| mriedem | at the midcycle i'd basically like to say, this is the plan, these are the steps to get us there, and this is what's going ot happen in newton | 17:52 |
| mriedem | 7/19-7/21 | 17:52 |
| ildikov | mriedem: +1 | 17:52 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: mriedem: we have the two mid-cycles at the same time again, right? | 17:53 |
| scottda | ildikov: Yes | 17:53 |
| ildikov | scottda: tnx :) | 17:53 |
| mriedem | yeah cinder is in ft collins | 17:53 |
| mriedem | nova is in hillsboro | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: ildikov I'm fine with focusing on merging cinder side FWIW | 17:54 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: yeap, it would be great if that can happen in Newton | 17:54 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: cinder just has a longer lead time since you have until 9/2 i think | 17:55 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: +1 | 17:55 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I would like to still start to sort things out on the Nova side as well, so we don't waste too much time on discussions in Ocata | 17:55 |
| mriedem | right i think we definitely want to see the nova parts working in the POC in newton | 17:55 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: don't get me wrong, I'll still submit, even if it sits and just gets rebased for a few months :) | 17:55 |
| mriedem | and tested | 17:55 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: I like the Hangouts idea for the mid-cycle as well | 17:55 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: +1 | 17:56 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I'm experienced in that, so you can count me in ;) | 17:56 |
| jgriffith | ildikov: :) | 17:56 |
| ildikov | mriedem: +1 | 17:56 |
| ildikov | #action Cinder team + ildikov to figure out the plan with steps and tasks for Newton until the mid-cycle | 17:57 |
| ildikov | #action mriedem + johnthetubaguy to help out on the Nova side if needed | 17:58 |
| scottda | BTW, I'm on vacation next week. | 17:58 |
| ildikov | #action ildikov + smcginnis to set up a Hangouts call for the mid-cycle | 17:58 |
| ildikov | scottda: ok, thanks for the info! | 17:58 |
| ildikov | scottda: I'll ping you on Friday for a few updates, if that works | 17:59 |
| scottda | ildikov: Sure. Not too late in the MountainDaylight TZ, please :) | 17:59 |
| ildikov | scottda: deal :) | 18:00 |
| ildikov | is there anything else for today? | 18:00 |
| ildikov | ok, if no, then thanks everyone! | 18:01 |
| scottda | bye | 18:01 |
| ildikov | have a nice day/afternoon :) | 18:01 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 27 18:01:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-06-27-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-06-27-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-06-27-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 18:01 |
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