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| tongli | #startmeeting interop_challenge | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 12 14:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tongli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' | 14:00 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 14:00 |
| tongli | good morning everyone. | 14:00 |
| gema | o/ | 14:00 |
| DrorG | morning | 14:01 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 14:01 |
| skazi_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| rohit404 | 0/ | 14:01 |
| tongli | brad can not make to today's meeting, I will have started the meeting for us today. | 14:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 14:01 |
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| tongli | @tamara, good morning, thanks so much for joining in today. | 14:02 |
| Tamara_ | morning! | 14:02 |
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| eeiden | o/ | 14:02 |
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| tongli | @tamara, brad can not make to today's meeting. | 14:02 |
| tongli | @lsell, Lauren, good morning. | 14:03 |
| tongli | @lsell, thanks for joining. | 14:03 |
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| lsell | good morning! of course, happy to join | 14:03 |
| jkomg | o/ | 14:03 |
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| rarcea | o/ | 14:04 |
| tongli | ok. let's get started. first is to review the action items from last meeting. | 14:04 |
| tongli | please see the page here | 14:04 |
| tongli | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-10-05-14.01.html | 14:04 |
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| Jason____ | @tongli | 14:05 |
| tongli | last week, we basically ask to update the wiki page and confirming the participation of the on-stage live demo. | 14:05 |
| luzC | o/ | 14:06 |
| tongli | we have sent many emails and a lot of companies have committed to be on stage and placed the demoer's name in the last column. | 14:06 |
| Jason____ | @tongli, we have updated the results at wiki | 14:07 |
| Jason____ | pls check it | 14:07 |
| tongli | please see the list here. | 14:07 |
| Jason____ | any problems , let me know pls | 14:07 |
| tongli | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#How_to_Join | 14:07 |
| Jason____ | @tongli, BTW , I have two questions need confirm with you | 14:08 |
| tongli | @Jason____, I saw that. it looks fine. | 14:08 |
| tongli | @Jason____, let's go through the agenda today first, then we can have free discussion. | 14:08 |
| Jason____ | thanks, but , could you mind check the email from me just now | 14:08 |
| tongli | today's etherpad is here. | 14:08 |
| Jason____ | thanks | 14:08 |
| tongli | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-10-12 | 14:09 |
| tongli | so I am very glad that we have Lauren and Tamara here with us today. | 14:09 |
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| tongli | let's move on to the next items on the agenda. | 14:09 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, @lsell, can you start talking about the on stage demo, and how it will be done? | 14:10 |
| lsell | Sure, I'm happy to talk through it at a high level | 14:10 |
| Jason____ | same questions, what's the workload will be run on demo? | 14:11 |
| Jason____ | LAMPstack or Dockerswarm , or both | 14:11 |
| lsell | Basically, we plan to have all 16? interop challenge participants on stage at the same time building the app on their own public or private clouds | 14:11 |
| tongli | @Json____, hold your question and let Lauren finish. | 14:11 |
| lsell | just LAMP | 14:12 |
| lsell | for the on-stage demo | 14:12 |
| Jason____ | OK, do we need to prepare the problem by ourselves ? | 14:12 |
| lsell | Brad Topol and Jonathan Bryce will kick off the segment, explaining how the challenge came about, who is involved, the significance, what we've learned, etc. | 14:12 |
| lsell | we have about 12 minutes for the entire segment, so it's going to be quick like all keynotes :) | 14:12 |
| garloff | And the camera will go from one participant to another ... ? | 14:13 |
| lsell | the demo participants will have started their builds before brad and jonathan's intro since it seems to take most folks 8-12 minutes | 14:13 |
| lsell | Yes, so after the intro, Jonathan and Brad will walk around and engage with the different participants | 14:13 |
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| lsell | Each participants laptop will be able to be shown on the big screen, so we'll check in with participants at different milestones and let them describe what's happening | 14:14 |
| tongli | on the signal from Johnathan, all the testers kick off the test. | 14:14 |
| lsell | it will be kind of a game show format, walking around and having a quick dialogue with the participants | 14:14 |
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| Jason____ | Do we need to make the workload ready by ourselves or brad? | 14:14 |
| tongli | @Jason____, Johnathan will give everybody a signal to kick off the test. | 14:15 |
| Jason____ | OK | 14:15 |
| tongli | every tester on stage will kick off the test at the same time. | 14:15 |
| lsell | one thing we want to be careful about is not making it feel like a race. we definitely want to make sure a few folks finish before the end of the segment so we can showcase the wordpress landing page, but it shouldn't be obvious if some of the participants are unable to finish within the time | 14:16 |
| lsell | what am i leaving out @tongli? | 14:16 |
| tongli | @lsell, good point. it is not a race. | 14:16 |
| gema | yep critical since we cannot know the load of any of those clouds nor we are controlling that | 14:17 |
| gema | and servers are all different | 14:17 |
| tongli | @lsell, it is clear to me. @all fire away your question to Lauren if you have any | 14:18 |
| DrorG | Do we want to standardize the internal network name (as it must be manually pre-created) ? | 14:18 |
| tongli | @gema, that is exactly right. | 14:18 |
| tongli | it is not a race, it is about interop, we want to see the results not care how long it takes. | 14:18 |
| Tamara_ | I can answer any logistics questions you have --rehearsal times, etc. | 14:18 |
| lsell | each participant will be visible on stage and will have their organizations' loo on the front of their laptop, and i think it will be a really powerful show of community / collaboration | 14:18 |
| tongli | network can be a big factor. | 14:18 |
| gema | lsell: is it ok to run the workload from a VM on the cloud? | 14:19 |
| Jason____ | How we can connect the private cloud by internet ? | 14:19 |
| gema | my arch linux doesn't play very well with the ansible xD | 14:19 |
| tongli | any other questions on how the show will go? | 14:19 |
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| Jason____ | network is the potential problme | 14:19 |
| Rockyg | ++ one reason why rehearsal there will be critical for success | 14:20 |
| tongli | @Jason____, you will use your own laptop so I assume that you can connect to your private cloud, right? | 14:20 |
| garloff | Will the folks on stage have an own WLAN that works even if the Conf-WIFI is bogged down? | 14:20 |
| fredli | tongli: | 14:20 |
| fredli | yes | 14:20 |
| Jason____ | I am not sure | 14:20 |
| lsell | yes, we absolutely want to everyone to test running the workload using the stage network at least twice | 14:20 |
| fredli | Huawei will use our own laptop | 14:20 |
| lsell | yes, there will be a dedicated network for demos | 14:20 |
| fredli | I can confirm. Jason____ | 14:20 |
| Jason____ | yes , we will use our laptop | 14:20 |
| gema | lsell: but this is a separate network from the conference one, right? i.e. when everyone is in the room with their devices that won't affect us | 14:21 |
| lsell | @tamara_ will it be a hardline for each computer or the dedicated wifi? | 14:21 |
| Tamara_ | @tongli - good point about network - -we would like to connect everyone (or most people) via ethernet if possible. You will have an opportunity to run the demo at rehearsal | 14:21 |
| tongli | @garloff, good question, not sure if we can get demo network. @lsell, do we have dedicated network for demos? | 14:21 |
| Daniela_ | is it possible to test network/wifi this before the demo | 14:21 |
| lsell | yes, separate from the conference network | 14:21 |
| Tamara_ | we have a demo network for stage | 14:21 |
| lsell | and yes we will be testing with the demo network we're using for the show | 14:21 |
| gema | Tamara_: great, thanks | 14:21 |
| tongli | @lsell, great. I like that a lot. | 14:21 |
| tongli | @lsell, you wanna talk about that testers will be on stage behind a curtain first to get everything ready. | 14:22 |
| tongli | ? | 14:22 |
| lsell | yes, that is our plan, and a good idea from tonsil :) | 14:22 |
| tongli | so that testers will have enough of time to prepare. | 14:22 |
| lsell | if we can get everyone set up beforehand, we won't have any issues with computers going to sleep, etc. | 14:23 |
| lsell | but @tamara_ is working through logistics to make sure the curtain will work | 14:23 |
| garloff | ... or running out of power ... :-O | 14:23 |
| Jason____ | I suggest we can have meeing before keynote to make the preparement | 14:23 |
| lsell | if not, we'll have all the computers ready and lined up on stage, and then all of the participants will file out when the segment starts | 14:23 |
| lsell | Jason, we will have two required rehearsals prior to the keynote | 14:23 |
| Jason____ | to make sure everybody know the rules | 14:23 |
| vkmc | Jason____, there are two rehearsals afaik | 14:23 |
| tongli | @lsell, @tamara_, thanks. that will make the show a lot smoother. | 14:23 |
| Tamara_ | We will need everyone backstage prior to keynote; will confirm exact time at your onstage rehearsal tuesday | 14:24 |
| Tamara_ | but plan no later than 8:30. It may be earlier if we feel we need more time/or want to run again prior to keynote start | 14:24 |
| tongli | ok, if no more question about how the show will be performed, can we move on to next about logistics? | 14:24 |
| lsell | Please add your information to this etherpad regarding rehearsals to help Tamara_, since she will be will be wrangling quite a few folks for this demo | 14:25 |
| gema | tongli: my question as to whether we can run the workload from a VM somewhere | 14:25 |
| lsell | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-participant-info | 14:25 |
| gema | is unanswered | 14:25 |
| gema | (or I missed the answer) | 14:25 |
| tongli | @gema, I do that myself. I use VBox VM to run the tests. | 14:25 |
| rohit404 | gema: i'm hoping to do the same...should be ok IMO | 14:25 |
| tongli | I do not run it directly on my mac. | 14:25 |
| tongli | so that gives you some options. | 14:25 |
| gema | tongli, rohit404: cool | 14:25 |
| Jason____ | @tongli, could you mind send me email to tell me the time and location for the two rehearsals | 14:25 |
| gema | thanks | 14:25 |
| tongli | since it will run on your own laptop, you do wahtever you like. | 14:26 |
| Tamara_ | I will send logistics email to all with details | 14:26 |
| tongli | we just want to see the script is rolling and the results. | 14:26 |
| Jason____ | I will ask our engineers to make the preparment | 14:26 |
| Tamara_ | location, time, etc. | 14:26 |
| gema | tongli: great | 14:26 |
| Tamara_ | Please provide your info by this Friday Oct 14th on Etherpad and my team will follow up with all logistics details | 14:27 |
| Jason____ | @Tamara, could you mind copy one for me , jason.shi@huawei.com | 14:27 |
| Jason____ | thanks | 14:27 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, you like to talk about the next item in the agenda? | 14:27 |
| Tamara_ | yes, happy to | 14:28 |
| tongli | which is "On stage requirements" | 14:28 |
| Tamara_ | Please bring the following to rehearsal as well as the keynote: Laptop with power supply If laptop does not have HDMI out, bring adapter (i.e. Mini DP to HDMI) USB to Ethernet if your laptop does not have an ethernet port Prior to 1st rehearsal, disable all notifications, screen savers, etc. Settings: 1980x1020 | 14:29 |
| Tamara_ | You have 2 options for the first rehearsal Sunday or Monday | 14:29 |
| tongli | good point about the screen resolution, I think we suppose to use the mirror display. | 14:29 |
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| Jason____ | @Tamara , where is the rehearsal? | 14:30 |
| tongli | so whatever shows on your screen will show on the big screen. not the extended display. | 14:30 |
| garloff | But then, @tongli, 1920x1080 will not work for most ... | 14:30 |
| Tamara_ | At that time, we will connect your laptop to our av system & make sure we can see your machine on screen | 14:30 |
| tongli | @Jason___, that will be talked about later in the agenda. | 14:30 |
| Jason____ | we will join the rehearsal on Monday, I thing | 14:30 |
| Jason____ | ok | 14:30 |
| Jason____ | @tongli, thanks | 14:30 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, you mean 1980x1080 not 1980x1020, right? | 14:31 |
| Tamara_ | If 1920x1080 will not work, please add the resolution that will work in the etherpad so we can prepare | 14:31 |
| Tamara_ | @tongli - yes! sorry! | 14:32 |
| Daniela_ | I will arrive on Monday, so this would be preferred | 14:32 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, not a problem, just want to make sure. in care you indeed want to use 1980x1020. I have seen some wired resolutions. | 14:32 |
| Tamara_ | The rehearsal is in the Forum at CCIB | 14:33 |
| garloff | @Tamara_ if people using mirroring, then the resolution will be the native resolution of the panel peoples' laptops have, no? So we would need to go to a common lowest denominator like 1280x720 or so :-( | 14:33 |
| Tamara_ | On the keynote stage. We will send very detailed directions | 14:34 |
| DrorG | @Tamara 1920x1080 is more common I believe | 14:34 |
| gema | Tamara_: any particular dresscode? | 14:34 |
| Jason____ | @Tamara , what's the detial forum ? | 14:34 |
| gema | Jason____: that is where the conference is | 14:35 |
| Tamara_ | @garloff - we can adjust the Picture in Picture size on screen. If everyone can let me know the native resolution in etherpad, that will help us plan | 14:35 |
| lsell | yes, the rehearsal will be in the keynote room, which is the large auditorium at the CCIB | 14:35 |
| Jason____ | @Isell, thanks, How about the time? | 14:36 |
| Tamara_ | @jason - it's in the etherpad for easy reference | 14:37 |
| Tamara_ | 1) Tech Check on Sunday, October 23 between 10:45am-11:45am local time OR Monday October 24 between 3:45pm - 5pm local time. | 14:37 |
| lsell | yes, please refer to the etherpad and add your details there | 14:37 |
| Tamara_ | 2) Tuesday rehearsal 4:45pm arrival for 5:15-5:45pm on stage | 14:37 |
| Jason____ | @Tamara, thanks very much | 14:37 |
| tongli | hi, guys add your resolution in the etherpad. | 14:37 |
| tongli | if different from 1980x1080 | 14:38 |
| tongli | sorry 1920x1080 | 14:38 |
| fredli | OK, we will update the etherpad tomorrow | 14:38 |
| Tamara_ | This is going to be a really exciting segment & we are excited to have you. As Tongli noted, it is important for you to attend both rehearsals in order to participate in keynote demo. | 14:39 |
| lsell | great. anything else we can answer today? | 14:39 |
| lsell | we really appreciate all of your work | 14:39 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, you wanna talk about the desktop background pictures etc? | 14:39 |
| tongli | not something kind strange or make people feel uncomfortable. | 14:40 |
| Daniela_ | dress code? | 14:40 |
| Jason____ | @Isell, we are booked the Monday reherasal on Monday | 14:40 |
| Tamara_ | Sure. If you can disable notifications, screen savers, etc., prior to rehearsal, that will help. And remember that everyone will see your desktop! | 14:40 |
| tongli | yeah, dress code? jeans + polo shirt? | 14:41 |
| * rohit404 all should wear similar interop t-shirts or would that be too monotonous for the stage ? | 14:41 | |
| tongli | @rohit404, interop t-shirt? someone make some please. | 14:41 |
| Jason____ | Could we get T-shirts as well ? | 14:42 |
| tongli | I would think each one will wear their company shirt. | 14:42 |
| tongli | should not matter that much, right? @lsell @Tamara_ | 14:42 |
| Jason____ | we have company shirt , but the logo is seens smaller at stage | 14:43 |
| lsell | yeah i think if everyone wore the same shirt, it would be too monotonous | 14:43 |
| lsell | i would recommend a company shirt or just your own clothes | 14:43 |
| Tamara_ | @jason we will provide a laptop cling with your company logo | 14:43 |
| tongli | guys, this is exciting, any other questions for @lsell and @Tamara_? | 14:43 |
| Tamara_ | wear something you fell comfortable/confident in | 14:43 |
| Tamara_ | *feel* | 14:44 |
| lsell | yes, all of the logos will be visible and consistent across all of the laptops | 14:44 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, +2 | 14:44 |
| fredli | Tamara_: +1 | 14:44 |
| garloff | OpenStack gear from the last summits :-) | 14:45 |
| lsell | yes! | 14:45 |
| luzC | +1 | 14:45 |
| Daniela_ | @Tamara: the first rehearsal will be on Monday at 3:45pm. Right?? | 14:46 |
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| Tamara_ | yes, that is an option. if anyone can come on sunday, please do. | 14:47 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, my flight has booked long ago, can not change it. | 14:48 |
| Tamara_ | you can arrive anytime between 3:45-4:45...we need about 15 min. with you to connect equipment, etc. & then we would like you to run the program & report the run time in the stage environment | 14:49 |
| Tamara_ | that will give us a good reality check | 14:49 |
| Tamara_ | @tongli - no worries! Sunday is an option, not a requirement. | 14:49 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, so on Monday it will be from 3:45 to 4:45pm, if so, I will put that time on etherpad. | 14:50 |
| Rockyg | You might want to see what setup times are with everyone trying to run at once, too. | 14:50 |
| gema | Tamara_: how do you make it into that room on that day? | 14:50 |
| gema | Tamara_: I remember the security people being quite unforgiving on past events :D | 14:50 |
| Tamara_ | I will send exact details via email but part of the reason we need participants names by friday is so we can get the proper credential that allows you early access to keynote room | 14:51 |
| Rockyg | good point | 14:51 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, I have put the time there on etherpad, if there is any change, please do update. | 14:51 |
| gema | Tamara_: alright, thanks | 14:51 |
| Tamara_ | Please note--only you will have access; if you have an urgent request to bring someone with you to rehearsal, please email me tamara@fntech.com | 14:52 |
| tongli | ok. I put the action item there , so that if one wants the access to the rehearsal, then your name and contact info must be in the etherpad. | 14:52 |
| Tamara_ | @tongli - perfect, thanks | 14:52 |
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| tongli | #action, everyone who does the test please put your name, company and contact in the etherpad so that OS foundation can give you access to the building on Monday. | 14:53 |
| gema | tongli: which etherpad, we have two ongoing now | 14:54 |
| Jason___ | same question | 14:54 |
| tongli | what? | 14:54 |
| Jason___ | which etherpad | 14:55 |
| tongli | @gema, we have to going on, no. | 14:55 |
| Tamara_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-participant-info | 14:55 |
| gema | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-participant-info <- this one? | 14:55 |
| tongli | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-10-12 | 14:55 |
| gema | great, thanks | 14:55 |
| fredli | Jason___: I know | 14:55 |
| fredli | don't worry | 14:55 |
| Jason___ | @fredli ok | 14:55 |
| tongli | ok. I was thinking the normal meeting etherpad. | 14:55 |
| tongli | well, ok. use the one @tamara_ sent. | 14:56 |
| fredli | thanks, @Tamara_ , @tongli | 14:56 |
| Jason___ | @fredli, pls leave both me and engineer information in the eherpad after IRC | 14:57 |
| fredli | sure | 14:57 |
| Tamara_ | @tongli -I have both so will collect the info either way :-) | 14:58 |
| tongli | ok. | 14:58 |
| tongli | #action, please put your tester information here | 15:00 |
| tongli | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-participant-info | 15:00 |
| tongli | guys, I think we run out of the time. | 15:01 |
| garloff | @tongli Do you prefer /me entering it right away or wait until we have ev'thing runnning successfully? | 15:01 |
| tongli | I will ask Johanna to send out the email about this action and please do make sure you all have the info there. | 15:01 |
| tongli | @Tamara_, @lsell, thanks so much. | 15:02 |
| Jason___ | thanks | 15:02 |
| tongli | I think I need to end this meeting before someone kicks us out. | 15:02 |
| lsell | thank you! | 15:02 |
| Tamara_ | thank you! | 15:02 |
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| Rockyg | thanks! | 15:02 |
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| fredli | thanks | 15:03 |
| tongli | thanks guys. | 15:03 |
| tongli | #endmeeting | 15:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 12 15:03:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-10-12-14.00.html | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-10-12-14.00.txt | 15:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-10-12-14.00.log.html | 15:03 |
| Jason___ | @tongli, I have questions for you | 15:03 |
| tongli | @Jason___, ok. | 15:03 |
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