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lbragstad | #startmeeting policy | 16:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 1 16:02:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
lbragstad | ping raildo, ktychkova, dolphm, dstanek, rderose, htruta, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan, ayoung, stevemar, ravelar, morgan | 16:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
lbragstad | ping johnthetubaguy if you're around! | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy' | 16:02 |
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rderose | o/ | 16:03 |
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ruan_20 | o/ | 16:04 |
lbragstad | o/ | 16:04 |
lbragstad | hi ruan_20 - sorry for not pinging, I never know which irc nick you'll have each week | 16:04 |
lbragstad | ruan_20 right now I just ping with ruan | 16:04 |
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gagehugo | o/ | 16:05 |
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lbragstad | we'll give it another minute here for folks to show up | 16:06 |
lbragstad | #topic announcements | 16:07 |
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lbragstad | agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting | 16:07 |
lbragstad | we have a really light agenda this week (similar to last week) | 16:07 |
lbragstad | because i know most of us are tied up with finishing up the release | 16:08 |
lbragstad | I'm hoping that we can start planning things out for the PTG soon | 16:08 |
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lbragstad | specifically the policy work | 16:08 |
ruan_20 | in this case, is it possible to make a summery? | 16:08 |
ayoung | ruan_20, you are still pursuing the Fortress approach, right? | 16:09 |
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ruan_20 | Yes | 16:09 |
lbragstad | I'd like to make sure folks weigh in the policy stuff here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg so that we ensure we have a dedicated and meaningful session on in in ATL | 16:10 |
lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg | 16:10 |
ayoung | ruan_20, so I won't be at the PTG, but we are trying to find out who will to discuss it | 16:10 |
lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:10 |
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ayoung | lbragstad, I need coding help | 16:11 |
ayoung | top priority is the Bug 968696 work | 16:12 |
openstack | bug 968696 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) ""admin"-ness not properly scoped" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968696 - Assigned to Adam Young (ayoung) | 16:12 |
lbragstad | ayoung are you working on fortress integration? | 16:12 |
ayoung | I'm not going to be able to get to it myself, looking to hand it off | 16:12 |
breton | oh wow, fortress | 16:12 |
ayoung | lbragstad, no. FOrtress is outside my world | 16:12 |
lbragstad | ayoung oh | 16:12 |
dstanek | my favorite bug! | 16:12 |
ayoung | dstanek, mine too | 16:12 |
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ayoung | we need work on tempest, I think, in order to close that out | 16:13 |
lbragstad | ayoung noted - i know we merged your spec and I think it was bumped to pike | 16:13 |
ayoung | basically, the tempest tests put a bunch of admin stuff under the dynamically created domains and projects, and those break with the stricter rules | 16:13 |
ayoung | lbragstad, not even talking RBAC here, just base "scoping admin" work | 16:14 |
ayoung | lbragstad, for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384148/ | 16:14 |
ayoung | that one passes unit tests, but fails Tempest | 16:15 |
lbragstad | oh - this is evaluating is_admin_project | 16:15 |
ayoung | lbragstad, yes | 16:15 |
lbragstad | or making nova evaluate it | 16:15 |
ayoung | lbragstad, I think fixing things in Tempest will get the tests to pass for all the other projects, Keystone included | 16:16 |
ayoung | see open reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/968696 | 16:16 |
ayoung | Keystone needs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387161/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387710/ before the patch, too | 16:17 |
ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257636/ is failing tempest for the same reasons | 16:17 |
ayoung | lbragstad, I think knikolla is going to take the RBAC work, but this stuff here, this is fundamental. It needs a full court press, and needs to be finished | 16:18 |
ayoung | jamielennnox did the heavy lifting. But this is the last mile. | 16:19 |
ayoung | And I can't get the time to work on it anymore | 16:19 |
lbragstad | ok - but this is something that can be done in parallel with knikolla's RBAC work? | 16:20 |
ayoung | lbragstad, yes | 16:20 |
lbragstad | looks like there are only 4 patches left | 16:21 |
ayoung | well, I expect that there will be a bunch of Tempest patches when we are done | 16:21 |
lbragstad | not including the patches needed to tempest | 16:21 |
ayoung | and, once these are in, need to make sure the other projects are all good. | 16:21 |
lbragstad | ok - I'd like to work on getting policy into code soon too, which is another thing we can do in parallel, but maybe the folks working on all the policy efforts can hop back and forth? | 16:23 |
ayoung | the final state will be one for cinder, one for glance one for Neutron, | 16:23 |
ayoung | neutron has not been written yet | 16:23 |
ayoung | perhaps swift | 16:23 |
ayoung | and then all of the other projects in the big tent need to play nice, too | 16:23 |
lbragstad | ayoung that's where I want to lean on documentation | 16:24 |
lbragstad | we *need* to have docs around this kind of stuff | 16:24 |
ayoung | yep, but we need code first | 16:24 |
ayoung | at least for nova and Keystone | 16:24 |
ayoung | otherwise, it is meaningless | 16:24 |
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lbragstad | instead of going around and policing everyone to make sure they do it right, we need to provide them with the information and guidance so that we don't need to police them | 16:24 |
lbragstad | regardless - i'd expect anyone picking up this work to be in touch with other folks working on policy | 16:26 |
lbragstad | does anyone have *specific* things they want to work on/talk about at the PTG? | 16:29 |
lbragstad | or things they want others to bring to the PTG for them? | 16:29 |
lbragstad | s/specific/specific policy/ | 16:30 |
lbragstad | ok - does anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about/ | 16:33 |
lbragstad | alright - well I'll give everyone some time back. remember to fill out the pike ptg etherpad if you have specifics you want discussed in ATL, we'll be starting the planning phase soon | 16:35 |
lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 16:35 |
lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 1 16:35:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-02-01-16.02.html | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-02-01-16.02.txt | 16:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-02-01-16.02.log.html | 16:35 |
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johnthetubaguy | lbragstad: not sure how I managed to get the invite wrong already | 16:59 |
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