Wednesday, 2017-02-01

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lbragstad#startmeeting policy16:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb  1 16:02:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
lbragstadping raildo, ktychkova, dolphm, dstanek, rderose, htruta, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan, ayoung, stevemar, ravelar, morgan16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
lbragstadping johnthetubaguy if you're around!16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'policy'16:02
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rderoseo/16:03
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ruan_20o/16:04
lbragstado/16:04
lbragstadhi ruan_20 - sorry for not pinging, I never know which irc nick you'll have each week16:04
lbragstadruan_20 right now I just ping with ruan16:04
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lbragstadwe'll give it another minute here for folks to show up16:06
lbragstad#topic announcements16:07
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lbragstadagenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting16:07
lbragstadwe have a really light agenda this week (similar to last week)16:07
lbragstadbecause i know most of us are tied up with finishing up the release16:08
lbragstadI'm hoping that we can start planning things out for the PTG soon16:08
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lbragstadspecifically the policy work16:08
ruan_20in this case, is it possible to make a summery?16:08
ayoungruan_20, you are still pursuing the Fortress approach, right?16:09
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ruan_20Yes16:09
lbragstadI'd like to make sure folks weigh in the policy stuff here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg so that we ensure we have a dedicated and meaningful session on in in ATL16:10
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg16:10
ayoungruan_20, so I won't be at the PTG, but we are trying to find out who will to discuss it16:10
lbragstad#topic open discussion16:10
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ayounglbragstad, I need coding help16:11
ayoungtop priority is the Bug 968696 work16:12
openstackbug 968696 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) ""admin"-ness not properly scoped" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968696 - Assigned to Adam Young (ayoung)16:12
lbragstadayoung are you working on fortress integration?16:12
ayoungI'm not going to be able to get to it myself, looking to hand it off16:12
bretonoh wow, fortress16:12
ayounglbragstad, no.  FOrtress is outside my world16:12
lbragstadayoung oh16:12
dstanekmy favorite bug!16:12
ayoungdstanek, mine too16:12
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ayoungwe need work on tempest, I think, in order to close that out16:13
lbragstadayoung noted - i know we merged your spec and I think it was bumped to pike16:13
ayoungbasically, the tempest tests put a bunch of admin stuff under the dynamically created domains and projects, and those break with the stricter rules16:13
ayounglbragstad,  not even talking RBAC here, just base "scoping admin" work16:14
ayounglbragstad, for example  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384148/16:14
ayoungthat one passes unit tests, but fails Tempest16:15
lbragstadoh - this is evaluating is_admin_project16:15
ayounglbragstad, yes16:15
lbragstador making nova evaluate it16:15
ayounglbragstad, I think fixing things in Tempest will get the tests to pass for all the other projects, Keystone included16:16
ayoungsee open reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/96869616:16
ayoungKeystone needs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387161/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387710/  before the patch, too16:17
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/257636/  is failing tempest for the same reasons16:17
ayounglbragstad, I think knikolla is going to take the RBAC work, but this stuff here, this is fundamental.  It needs a full court press, and needs to be finished16:18
ayoungjamielennnox did the heavy lifting.  But this is the last mile.16:19
ayoungAnd I can't get the time to work on it anymore16:19
lbragstadok - but this is something that can be done in parallel with knikolla's RBAC work?16:20
ayounglbragstad, yes16:20
lbragstadlooks like there are only 4 patches left16:21
ayoungwell, I expect that there will be a bunch of Tempest patches when we are done16:21
lbragstadnot including the patches needed to tempest16:21
ayoungand, once these are in, need to make sure the other projects are all good.16:21
lbragstadok - I'd like to work on getting policy into code soon too, which is another thing we can do in parallel, but maybe the folks working on all the policy efforts can hop back and forth?16:23
ayoungthe final state will be one for cinder, one for glance one for Neutron,16:23
ayoungneutron has not been written yet16:23
ayoungperhaps swift16:23
ayoungand then all of the other projects in the big tent need to play nice, too16:23
lbragstadayoung that's where I want to lean on documentation16:24
lbragstadwe *need* to have docs around this kind of stuff16:24
ayoungyep, but we need code first16:24
ayoungat least for nova and Keystone16:24
ayoungotherwise, it is meaningless16:24
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lbragstadinstead of going around and policing everyone to make sure they do it right, we need to provide them with the information and guidance so that we don't need to police them16:24
lbragstadregardless - i'd expect anyone picking up this work to be in touch with other folks working on policy16:26
lbragstaddoes anyone have *specific* things they want to work on/talk about at the PTG?16:29
lbragstador things they want others to bring to the PTG for them?16:29
lbragstads/specific/specific policy/16:30
lbragstadok - does anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about/16:33
lbragstadalright - well I'll give everyone some time back. remember to fill out the pike ptg etherpad if you have specifics you want discussed in ATL, we'll be starting the planning phase soon16:35
lbragstadthanks for coming!16:35
lbragstad#endmeeting16:35
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb  1 16:35:31 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:35
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johnthetubaguylbragstad: not sure how I managed to get the invite wrong already16:59
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