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| lbragstad | #startmeeting policy | 16:00 |
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| lbragstad | ping raildo, ktychkova, rderose, htruta, hrybacki, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan, ayoung, morgan, raj_singh, johnthetubaguy, knikolla, nhelgeson | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 16:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy' | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 16:00 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 16:00 | |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #topic policy docs in keystone | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "policy docs in keystone (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:02 | |
| edmondsw | o/ (sort of) | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | as mentioned in the keystone meeting yesterday - there is an effort to pick up the policy docs works | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | there isn't much left to document | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | it's really just addressing the remaining comments and getting those patches across the finish line | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | then the policy-docs spec will be implemented | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: hrybacki and myself are working on addressing the comments, any reviews would be greatly appreciated | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #topic policy specs and goals | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "policy specs and goals (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:04 | |
| samueldmq | hi all | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | we have a bunch of policy goals and specs in flight | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | it would be nice to merge the ones we agree with or provide feedback on them | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460344/ | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | ^ general policy goals document | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | ^ roadmap for providing security via policy improvements (which I could probably update) | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460344/ | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | ^ global role assignments in keystone | 16:06 |
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| samueldmq | those are all pretty neat imo, it would be great to get feedback from other projects too | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | we've been getting feedback, slow but sure | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117949.html | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | yeah - project feedback on those would be good | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | maybe we can make a point to get on the meeting agenda for other projects to raise awareness? | 16:08 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: that'd be great | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | i think the cinder meeting is taking place rightn ow | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | yep | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | ok - if we end this one early - i'll swing by and ask | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | otherwise i'll propose it for the agenda next week | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | I've also proposed a queens goal for moving policy into code and documenting it | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469954/ | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | since several folks here are familiar with that concept, any reviews there (keeping me honest) would be great | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to swing to get cross-project involvement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/ | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #undo | 16:12 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action lbragstad to swing to get cross-project involvement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/ | 16:12 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: that is for Queens correct? | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to get cross-project involvement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/ | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: yes | 16:13 |
| samueldmq | nice, seems a good target, would be really hard if we were targeting Pike | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: which would impact keystone, but it would hopefully set us up for other policy improvements if we decide to start introducing better roles by default | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | which johnthetubaguy had some specs proposed to do | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | #undo | 16:14 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action lbragstad to get cross-project involvement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/ | 16:14 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: would be great to have a wiki page | 16:14 |
| samueldmq | stating where each spec sits in the roadmap | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to get cross-project involvement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460344/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462733/ | 16:14 |
| * lbragstad has too many tabs open | 16:14 | |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: yeah | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | have people been keeping up with the admin-ness (global roles) discussion? | 16:15 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: what discussion? in the ML? or just considering the options (global roles vs admin project) and reviewing | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: yeah - the ML thread specifically | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117419.html | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | how do people feel about the options and feedback we've gotten from operators? | 16:17 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: I prefer #2, the new global role concept | 16:19 |
| samueldmq | looks like people are inclined to that one too | 16:20 |
| gagehugo | I think #2 seemed to be more accepted of the choices from what the response emails sounded like | 16:20 |
| gagehugo | samueldmq yeah | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | that seems to be the consensus on the thread | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | ok - so i'll propose that spec backlog instead of ongoing, since the work hasn't started yet | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | i'll carve out some time to start working on the implementation | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | and propose it early | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | my goal would be to try and have it in a place where we can merge the work as soon as queens opens for development | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | if anyone is interested in helping with that effort, let me know or leave a comment on the contributors section of the review | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to propose global roles to backlog in preparation for queens | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | i think that's about all i had for specs and goals | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:24 | |
| lbragstad | floor is open in case anyone has anything they'd like to discuss | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | alrighty - well looks like we can get some time back | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 7 16:27:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-06-07-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-06-07-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-06-07-16.00.log.html | 16:27 |
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