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| lbragstad | ping raildo, ktychkova, rderose, htruta, hrybacki, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan_he, ayoung, morgan, raj_singh, johnthetubaguy, knikolla, nhelgeson | 15:59 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting policy | 16:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 9 16:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:00 | |
| lamt | o/ | 16:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy' | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| ruan_he | o/ | 16:00 |
| nhelgeson | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting | 16:00 |
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| lbragstad | we'll give it a minute for others to show up | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | haven't had a policy meeting in a couple weeks | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #topic external pdp hooks | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "external pdp hooks (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:02 | |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491565/ | 16:02 |
| ruan_he | we'd like to propose a hook in keystone to redirect authorization requests to an external PDP instead of the native one by oslo.policy | 16:03 |
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| lbragstad | ruan_he: is the hook suppose to be in keystone or oslo.policy? | 16:04 |
| ruan_he | it's similar to the previous Fortress one, but now it's more generic for any external PDP | 16:04 |
| edmondsw | ruan_he keystone isn't used for authorization when you talk to nova, cinder, etc... so how does this work with that? | 16:04 |
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| ruan_he | the hook will be in oslo.policy | 16:05 |
| edmondsw | ah | 16:05 |
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| lbragstad | so we should probably be proposing this specification to oslo | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | since it seems more relevant there | 16:05 |
| edmondsw | and say oslo.policy, not keystone | 16:06 |
| ruan_he | well, my understanding is that all the topics about policy.json, policy.ymal are here | 16:06 |
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| lbragstad | yeah - this is the policy meeting, but the specification is targeted to keystone-specs | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: are you planning on attending the ptg? | 16:07 |
| ruan_he | if this topic will be discussed in ptg, I can try to attend the meeting | 16:07 |
| ruan_he | where should I put this spec? | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: i was going to suggest that if you want to push this forward with the oslo group - you should add it to the list of topics here | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | oslo has its own specification repository | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://github.com/openstack/oslo-specs | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | which follows a similar process to the one used in keystone-specs | 16:09 |
| ruan_he | I think that it's a cross-topic, because for authorization, roles are defined in keystone and policy.json file is used in oslo.policy | 16:09 |
| edmondsw | oslo conversations are always cross-project :) | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | that's true | 16:10 |
| edmondsw | ruan_he this is definitely the right meeting to discuss it in, don't get us wrong | 16:10 |
| edmondsw | it's the spec that's in the wrong place | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | the functionality has to come from oslo.policy i think | 16:10 |
| ruan_he | ok, I'll re-submit the spec to oslo | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | looping in the oslo folks would be a good idea, too | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | i'm certain they'd have some valuable input here | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | cc dims gcb ^ | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: i'll add the topic to #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens | 16:12 |
| dims | lbragstad : ack | 16:12 |
| dims | lbragstad : good idea | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: if you want to repropose the specification you have to the oslo-specs repository | 16:12 |
| ruan_he | just like an external IdP, we would like to support external PDP for authorization | 16:13 |
| ruan_he | ok, I'll do that | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | ok - done | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: anything else you wanted to share on this topic? | 16:15 |
| ruan_he | that's all | 16:15 |
| ruan_he | just a question | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: sure | 16:16 |
| ruan_he | I've read the Fortress spec, are there some guys working on that? | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | ruan_he: ktychkova was working on it previously, but i'm not sure if she still is or not | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | she had a PoC up earlier in the year | 16:18 |
| ruan_he | ok, thanks | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | no problem | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | #topic update on global roles | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update on global roles (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:18 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481781/ | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | i've had that up for a while | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | and i need to start breaking it apart and pushing it forward | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | which i should be able to start doing next week for sure once the dust settles from rc1 | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: you mentioned some interest in that work | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: is that still the case/ | 16:19 |
| knikolla | yep | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: cool - let's sync on friday and see how we can tackle that work with two people | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | (or more if anyone else is interested) | 16:20 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: sounds great. | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:21 | |
| lbragstad | anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? | 16:21 |
| gagehugo | do we have a room at the PTG for policy? | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | not yet - i believe diablo_rojo_phon was working on lining something up | 16:22 |
| gagehugo | alright cool | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | i sent a note to the mailing list about getting people together to go through moving policy into code | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | but so far that's been crickets | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | (maybe helping the other projects will be easier that i was expecting) | 16:23 |
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| lbragstad | i would expect that session to be something we cover on monday or tuesday | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | or have a room dedicated to policy stuff | 16:24 |
| gagehugo | ok | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | and since that fits the cross-project bill, I would expect to do that sometime monday or tuesday | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | outside of what's already on the etherpad - does anyone have suggestions for policy topics during the PTG? | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | alright - looks like we'll get some time back | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 9 16:26:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-08-09-16.00.html | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-08-09-16.00.txt | 16:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-08-09-16.00.log.html | 16:26 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad: just saw the ping :) Erin is finalizing the rooms end of this week and we will have the schedule out early next week | 17:09 |
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