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| lbragstad | #startmeeting policy | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 16:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | ping raildo, ktychkova, rderose, htruta, hrybacki, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan_he, ayoung, kmalloc, raj_singh, johnthetubaguy, knikolla, nhelgeson | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | we'll give it a minute for folks to trickle in | 16:01 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: have you recovered from the jet lag yet? | 16:03 |
| edmondsw | \o | 16:03 |
| knikolla | Not yet, I’m naturally terrible at sleep schedules | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | lol | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i've had a couple late nights catching up on things since being home so i can't tell if it's jet lag or just exhaustion in general | 16:04 |
| hrybacki | you've got a few things on your plate right now lbragstad haha | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | :) | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | looks like there are only a few of us | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | we can either continue here or hop into a hangout if folks want to recap policy discussions from the summit | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | if people think that'd be a useful | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | i hrybacki wasn't there | 16:06 |
| * hrybacki would be lying if he said he wasn't multitasking | 16:06 | |
| lbragstad | i know* | 16:06 |
| hrybacki | but that might be a good recap | 16:06 |
| hrybacki | I was reading your post earlier lbragstad | 16:06 |
| hrybacki | glad to hear operators were digging in. Sounds like there was general buy in to the roadmap? | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | yeah - there were no strong objections | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | i felt it was a good discussion | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | it generated dialog, which i thought was a good sign | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: knikolla might have different opinions though | 16:07 |
| edmondsw | I was pleased with the level of interest | 16:07 |
| edmondsw | we'll see how things go with implementation... | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | i thought the fact that people were naturally asking questions was proof that they were understand it and walking through the steps of the roadmap | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | in other news - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509909/ | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509909/ merged | 16:08 |
| edmondsw | what roadmap we have... we talked about a lot of things that need to happen but aren't on a roadmap yet | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: yes - which is another thing to bring up | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | how do we want to capture that information? | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | in *another* trello board? | 16:09 |
| hrybacki | in whatever fashion but as soon as posible. Was that session recorded by chance? | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | or do we wait until we migrate to storyboard and use an epic? | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: unfortunately not - that was a forum session, which typically aren't recorded | 16:09 |
| edmondsw | I'll defer to you on where to capture it, so long as it is captured | 16:09 |
| hrybacki | perhaps folks can dump info into an etherpad to start? | 16:10 |
| edmondsw | there was plenty of stuff that's not on our roadmap that came up during our recorded session as well, though | 16:10 |
| * hrybacki is concerned with mental 'bit rot' | 16:10 | |
| lbragstad | yeah... | 16:10 |
| hrybacki | that's good! Better now than before we pigeon hole ourselves | 16:10 |
| edmondsw | e.g. the need to go through and remove hardcoded checks for admin role | 16:10 |
| * hrybacki nods | 16:11 | |
| lbragstad | consistency for http_check | 16:11 |
| edmondsw | I was working on that some on the plane... and it's gonna be harder than I was hoping | 16:11 |
| edmondsw | (the admin hardcoding I mean) | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-keystone-policy-roadmap | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | we can create a new section there i suppose | 16:12 |
| edmondsw | jamielennox mentioned that he has a patch up for tempest to stop assuming admin can do things outside his project... we should find and drive that | 16:12 |
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| edmondsw | in case anyone is wondering, we're typing in the etherpad... | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:18 |
| * hrybacki is watching | 16:20 | |
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| lbragstad | edmondsw: what else did we put in the "other policy work" camp? | 16:23 |
| edmondsw | trying to think... already getting fuzzy | 16:24 |
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| lbragstad | i think that's about all i have or that i can remember at the moment | 16:44 |
| edmondsw | me too | 16:44 |
| edmondsw | I think this service-token discussion is one that we need to have with a wider audience at the next PTG | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:44 | |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:44 |
| hrybacki | quite the info dump y'all | 16:45 |
| edmondsw | I think at the last PTG someone had some different ideas on this, but I can't remember what that was now | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | yeah - ideally each of those need to be looked at and organized | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | (does this fit with admin-ness per 968696, or does it correlate to a separate policy theme that should belong in a new roadmap) | 16:46 |
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| edmondsw | I think the only one of those that really goes with 968696 is Jamie's patch | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | also - assuming those will result in a roadmap or roadmaps might be getting the cart in front of the horse | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | maybe they are just things to work on that don't necessarily need a roadmap | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | i think the roadmap made sense for the admin-ness 968696 issue because it's such a massive amount of work that spans several releases | 16:48 |
| edmondsw | I was thinking a "custom rbac" roadmap would be useful, and these would all go into that (other than jamie's) | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | that's true | 16:50 |
| edmondsw | just because as a bunch of one-offs it'll be hard not to let things slip through our fingers | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | a few of these can be worked i parallel too | 16:50 |
| edmondsw | yep | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | 9 minutes left | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have anything else? | 16:51 |
| hrybacki | noep | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | do we want to continue with the aws iam things next week? | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | or start tinkering with google? | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | from an identity management perspective? | 16:52 |
| hrybacki | day before thanksgiving, think folks may be travelling? | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | ahh - yes | 16:52 |
| hrybacki | pick it up the following week? | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | sure | 16:53 |
| hrybacki | +1 | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | do we want to continue the research effort of looking into other systems? | 16:53 |
| hrybacki | I think we should yes | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | we should update the mailing list on the status of things | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | i can make a point to send a note sometime today | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | also - i'll be out tomorrow and friday | 16:54 |
| hrybacki | good luck with things lbragstad | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | i might not be close to a computer, but i should be available via twitter if anyone needs me | 16:55 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: thanks! | 16:55 |
| lbragstad | looks like we can wrap things up | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming - thanks for the information dump edmondsw | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 16:56:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-11-15-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-11-15-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-11-15-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
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