Thursday, 2018-02-01

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ildikov#startmeeting cinder-nova-api-changes16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  1 16:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder-nova-api-changes)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder_nova_api_changes'16:00
ildikovjohnthetubaguy jaypipes e0ne jgriffith hemna mriedem patrickeast smcginnis diablo_rojo xyang xyang1 raj_singh lyarwood jungleboyj stvnoyes16:00
mriedemo/16:00
jungleboyj@!16:00
_pewp_jungleboyj (=゚ω゚)ノ16:00
ildikovhi :)16:01
ildikovnot sure how many more people we will get today, so let's start16:02
smcginniso/16:02
ildikovour status is basically here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multi-attach-volume+(status:open+OR+status:merged)16:02
ildikovmany tempest tests are on the gate right now16:02
ildikovthanks to mriedem to pushing it through16:02
ildikovmriedem: I guess we want to land the gate job patches and the Devstack change too?16:03
jungleboyjYay.16:04
mriedemildikov: need mtreinish to review the devstack patch probably16:04
mriedemand yes landing the actual CI job to make sure we don't regress would be nice16:05
mriedemi haven't been harassing people about that yet though16:05
ildikovdo you want me to?16:05
ildikovI just wasn't 100% sure about our confidence level, but prolly would be good to have it before RC116:06
mriedemi don't consider it urgent right now16:06
mriedemso no16:06
mriedemi'll bug people after rc116:06
ildikovok, then I will quietly sit on my butt for now16:06
mriedemso end of meeting yeah?16:07
mriedem:)16:07
mriedemi would like to get to a point where we don't have a weekly meeting16:07
ildikovsmcginnis has a bugfix up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539710/16:07
ildikovjungleboyj: jgriffith: ^^16:07
ildikovmultiattach flag in volume create + policy16:07
mriedemah so same as the attach fix,16:08
mriedembut volume create16:08
ildikovmriedem: I'm so sad to hear that16:08
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jungleboyjildikov:  Ok, Looking.16:08
smcginnisThat just adds policy checking to the flag path to be consistent.16:08
ildikovmriedem: it's to have setting the flag going through the same policy check as the volume_type case16:08
mriedemyeah, i guess i was thinking of this one https://github.com/openstack/cinder/commit/a32e24ff3e2c3083b42dd3654355f8c101363147#diff-33011bbeb0dd51161827701307e6d03316:09
ildikovmriedem: yeah, it's kind of a follow up on that one16:09
smcginnismriedem: Yeah, a follow on from a comment later on that one.16:09
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jungleboyjApproved.16:10
ildikovbeyond this we have PTG planning and I guess we can figure out the next steps there16:10
jungleboyjYeah, we need to figure out when we are doing CP meeting?16:11
mtreinishmriedem: do you have a link to what I need to review?16:11
smcginnisjungleboyj, mriedem: Is there another nova-cinder session planned already?16:11
jungleboyjThursday morning as usual?16:11
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Of course there will be.  It is tradition.16:11
smcginnis;)16:11
mriedemmtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266633/16:11
smcginnisProbably need to rope in melwitt as well for planning.16:12
mriedemshe's not PTL yet16:12
smcginnisyet16:12
mriedemand no there is nothing explicit in the schedule16:12
mriedemyou never know, ryan gossling could show up and run at the last minute16:12
jungleboyjHe he he.16:12
smcginnishah16:12
mriedemand he's f'ing DREAMY16:12
* mriedem was watching the new blade runner last night16:12
ildikovmriedem: +1 :)16:13
* jungleboyj was watching Frankie and Grace where they sit on his face.16:13
mriedemand jay ruins it as usual16:13
jungleboyjIt is just a chair though.16:13
smcginnisOK, good meeting, see you all next time..16:13
mriedemso...i haven't looked at ptg schedule yet16:13
ildikovlol16:13
jungleboyjSorry, I haven't slept much this week.16:13
ildikovyeah, I hoped we can run with some traditional slot16:13
mriedemlooks like http://ptg.openstack.org/ needs some updating16:14
ildikovI also reached out to the Scientific SIG folks as they had a plan to use it16:14
mriedemhttps://ethercalc.openstack.org/Rocky-PTG-Discussion-Rooms ?16:14
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mriedemanyone have the latest schedule / rooms?16:14
smcginnishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=137485530716:14
smcginnisThat's the only/latest I've seen.16:14
ildikovalso have notes from the old E// days regarding how people would wish to use this thing16:15
mriedempenciling in thursday morning sounds ok to me16:15
mriedemi'll update the nova etherpad16:15
jungleboyjI would say lets just plan to meet Thursday morning.16:15
jungleboyjUse which ever team has the better room.16:15
ildikovThursday morning it is16:15
jungleboyjI can coordinate with mriedem  and melwitt16:15
ildikovwill let people know16:16
jungleboyjThat gives each team time to prep on Wednesday.16:16
ildikovyep, agreed16:16
jungleboyjIf ryan gosling is running for Nova who is going to swoop in for Cinder?16:17
ildikovok, that's done, the topic is already added to the Nova etherpad16:17
jungleboyjAdding it to CInder.16:17
ildikovwe can create a separate etherpad for it if we wish, I'm easy16:17
ildikovmtreinish: tnx :)16:18
ildikovso patches are taken care of, so is the PTG16:18
ildikovis there anything on the documentation side of this that should get done?16:19
ildikovI know we added release notes and the support-matrix in Nova and warnings here and there16:19
smcginnisWe should probably have some more admin guide information.16:19
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:20
ildikovsmcginnis: good point16:20
mriedemthe cinder api-ref has also been updated a bit for things like retype16:20
mriedembut yeah overall admin guide would be good16:20
ildikovI can look into the admin guide next week16:20
mriedemhow to create a multiattach volume type, RO / RW issues, retype issues, backend support, etc16:21
mriedempolicy rules16:21
mriedemwhere do we want that to live?16:21
mriedemprobably cinder16:21
mriedemor both, and reference each other16:21
ildikovthe most part in Cinder16:21
ildikovand add some relevant details and reference to Nova16:22
ildikovwould be my choice16:22
mriedemok, i could start an outline16:22
jungleboyjmriedem:  I don't like duplicating documentation.16:22
mriedemand you could fill it all in16:22
mriedemjungleboyj: me neither16:22
ildikovmriedem: sounds good16:22
jungleboyjWe should have it in one place or the other and have a reference.16:22
mriedemwe'll put it in cinder, most of the details are there,16:23
mriedemit can link to the compute feature support matrix for which drivers support it16:23
jungleboyjmriedem: ++16:23
ildikovok, can do that16:23
ildikovwe can always revisit if there's any problematic Nova feature, like the shelve stuff and add some notes there16:24
ildikovok, cool16:24
ildikovmriedem: ping me when the outline is ready and then I'll take care of the rest from there16:25
mriedemwill do16:25
ildikovmriedem: thank you16:25
ildikovas for documentation, I will write up a SuperUser article and get it published when the release is out16:26
smcginnis++16:26
ildikovlet me know if any of you would want to participate16:26
smcginnisildikov: I'm not volunteering for anything. ;)16:26
mriedemi might be interested in that16:26
ildikovsmcginnis: you better not ;)16:26
ildikovsmcginnis: mriedem: will put the draft in a Google doc and share it with you16:27
jungleboyjildikov:  Let me know if you need anything.16:27
jungleboyjThat is a great iday though.16:27
jungleboyj*idea16:28
ildikovjungleboyj: a Stargate and a time machine; thank you :)16:28
ildikovand last, but not least we will also propose a session for the Vancouver Summit on this16:29
jungleboyjildikov:  I would settle for a teleporter.16:29
jungleboyjildikov:  ++16:29
ildikovI would like to have a panel that we start with a technical presentation part16:29
jungleboyjNice.16:29
mriedemtbd16:30
ildikovand then look into the community efforts and how we might be able to do things better in the future16:30
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mriedemwhat i was planning on submitting,16:31
mriedemwas more technical in nature, with some history and retrospective, but not overwhelmingly so16:31
ildikovand hope to have mriedem, jgriffith and stvnoyes up on stage16:31
mriedemi personally don't care for panel sessions16:31
mriedem"so jim, what do you think?" "oh i don't know, it's fine"16:32
ildikovmriedem: well, I think the cross-project discussion is interesting for others as well and I haven't checked, but I guess we have a limit on number of presenters16:32
mriedemi'll be working on an abstract probably tomorrow for what i was going to submit16:32
mriedemi haven't checked either, but i think i've seen 416:32
* jungleboyj is laughing16:32
mriedemand stvnoyes is checking if he'll even be in vancouver16:32
mriedemanywho, we don't really need to get into this here16:33
mriedemend meeting?16:33
smcginnisI think they capped presenters to 3, but that might be different for panels.16:33
ildikovmriedem: we can chat about the proposal later, just wanted to share the idea16:33
ildikovone more question16:33
ildikovdo we want meetings until the PTG?16:34
mriedemno16:34
jungleboyjNo.  :-)16:34
mriedemif we need to talk, we know where we are16:34
ildikovgood16:34
ildikovthen let's revisit at the PTG whether we need to resurrect the meetings or not16:35
smcginnis++16:35
ildikovit was my pleasure to work on this with you gentlemen!16:35
jungleboyjSounds good.  Thank you so much everyone!16:35
ildikovlet's keep in touch on the channels on the few action items we have for now16:35
ildikovthank you everyone!!!16:36
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ildikov#endmeeting16:37
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"16:37
openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb  1 16:37:24 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:37
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2018/cinder_nova_api_changes.2018-02-01-16.00.html16:37
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smcginnisThank you ildikov16:37
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