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| eday | party time? | 21:01 |
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| * eday pokes jaypipes | 21:01 | |
| jaypipes | eday: waiting a couple minutes.. | 21:01 |
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| soren | o/ | 21:02 |
| jaypipes | soren: yes? | 21:02 |
| jaypipes | alrighty, let's get started... | 21:02 |
| jaypipes | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 28 21:03:09 2010 UTC. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:03 |
| jaypipes | #topic python version | 21:03 |
| soren | jaypipes: I was just waving. | 21:03 |
| jaypipes | any objections to making 2.6 the standard? | 21:03 |
| creiht | yes | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | myself, I think it's a reasonable requirement. | 21:04 |
| vishy | nope | 21:04 |
| creiht | :) | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | creiht: pls elaborate. | 21:04 |
| creiht | If one of the major desires for openstack is getting people on board, then I believe that for now python 2.5 support should be considered | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | creiht: other than debian, what platform does not support 2.6 | 21:05 |
| creiht | There are still a lot of people running distros that are limited 2.5 | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | creiht: which ones? | 21:05 |
| anotherjesse | In the past there have been parts that broke in 2.5 with nova - trying to remember if it is still the case | 21:05 |
| creiht | Centos | 21:05 |
| creiht | RHEL | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | creiht: that is incorrect. | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | creiht: it's in EPEL. | 21:05 |
| creiht | the gap from 2.5 to 2.6 is small I believe for what it buys us | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | creiht: other than context managers, what are we talking? | 21:06 |
| creiht | The redhat places that I have been at before didn't use EPEL | 21:06 |
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| anotherjesse | we used to use multi-processing which caused issues in 2.5 | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | actually, that ? is for all, not just creiht :) | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | ah, yes. | 21:06 |
| anotherjesse | but there might have been other issues as well | 21:06 |
| creiht | jaypipes: 2.5 has context managers | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | nosetests uses multiprocessing module as well. | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | creiht: right, I asked what other than context managers.. :) | 21:06 |
| soren | We have a bunch of dependencies that aren't in *any* distro other than Ubuntu. | 21:07 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: b/c that can be fixed with a simple import from __future__, right? | 21:07 |
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| creiht | jaypipes: correct | 21:07 |
| soren | How are we expecting people running CentOS to deal with those? | 21:07 |
| jaypipes | soren: pls be specific, for the meeting notes, if not for people's benefit ;) | 21:07 |
| soren | gflags, eventlet 0.9.12, greenlets, pyredis (for now), sqlalchemy 0.6.3, ... | 21:08 |
| soren | Probably more that I don't know about. RHEL is ancient. It's probably missing all sorts of stuff. | 21:08 |
| creiht | I would argue that it is easier to get some other packages installed, since python is used for things like package management | 21:08 |
| creiht | it is more difficult to upgrade | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | soren: AFAIK, all those except for gflags is in pypi, no? | 21:09 |
| soren | python 2.5 and 2.6 can peacefully coexist. | 21:09 |
| soren | jaypipes: No clue. | 21:09 |
| soren | You don't have to remove 2.5 to get 2.6. | 21:09 |
| creiht | soren: in theory yes, but ops people do not like that | 21:09 |
| soren | What /do/ they like? :) | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | the only package that is a pain IMHO is M2Crypto since you need dev headers to compile it... | 21:09 |
| soren | jaypipes: Same for eventlet. | 21:10 |
| soren | jaypipes: I believe. | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | soren: ok. | 21:10 |
| creiht | All I'm saying is that it is my opinion that it will be easier to get adoption if we support python 2.5 | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | OK, this information is good, but it's kind of besides the point about 2.5 vs 2.6, no? | 21:10 |
| Daviey | Surely a consistent coding requirements(.txt) is required... | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | Daviey: ? | 21:11 |
| creiht | besides, the gap in functionality between 2.5 and 2.6 is fairly small | 21:11 |
| Daviey | Can the merge masters really be expected to test against all kinda variables like inconsistent deps? | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | creiht: the big one is multiprocessing module. | 21:11 |
| creiht | which is available as an external module for 2.5 | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | creiht: also good to know :) | 21:11 |
| creiht | granted possibly with a couple of caveats | 21:11 |
| * Daviey would suggest 2.6 makes sense... if something breaks for 2.5 "patches welcome". | 21:11 | |
| dabo | creiht: But 2.6 has a forward path to 3.x; 2.5 doesn't | 21:12 |
| jaypipes | good point. | 21:12 |
| soren | Does anyone have any overview of what in Swift or Nova currently does not work with py2.5? | 21:12 |
| xtoddx | daviey: that is idempotent with supporting 2.5 | 21:12 |
| creiht | I'm not saying we always have to support 2.5, I'm saying just for now | 21:12 |
| soren | I mean.. How much work would it be to make it supported (ignoring the maintenance burden for a little bit). | 21:13 |
| creiht | it is going to be a long time before everything will be in place to support 3 | 21:13 |
| jaypipes | soren: Nova would have to have the pool stuff reworked to include external multiprocessing module and use import from __future__ for context managers. | 21:13 |
| creiht | soren: I think the only thing left for swift is changing the default ssl to use OpenSSL | 21:13 |
| creiht | dabo: 2.7 is really where the path forward to 3.0 is | 21:13 |
| soren | Ok, so let's pretend we decide to support 2.5, too. | 21:13 |
| creiht | 2.6 really doesn't buy you much on the road to 3.0 | 21:13 |
| soren | This is supposedly to get poeple running old distros to run OpenStack. | 21:14 |
| creiht | or even try it | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | OK, so the options are 1) patch nova/swift to be 2.5 compatible, 2) use 2.6 as the required version. Please vote #1 or #2 | 21:14 |
| dabo | creiht: sure, since 2.7 is current, but 2.6 was the first release to add that capability | 21:14 |
| zul | #2 | 21:14 |
| jk0 | #2 | 21:14 |
| soren | Does that mean that we effectively support these ancient distros? | 21:14 |
| creiht | #1 | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | #2 | 21:15 |
| Daviey | #2 | 21:15 |
| anotherjesse | #2 | 21:15 |
| dabo | #2 | 21:15 |
| creiht | no... we just support python 2.5, which goes a long way to help packaging people support ancient distros | 21:15 |
| soren | This may mean that we need to have all sorts of special magic in place to ensure our use of system tools. | 21:15 |
| jc_smith | Other than local dev tinkering, I would think greenfield deployments would be with the latests distros | 21:15 |
| vishy | #2 | 21:15 |
| creiht | *may* | 21:15 |
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| eday | soren: it would be interesting to see if the hypervisors would even work on the old distros for what openstack needs | 21:15 |
| soren | creiht: That's the thing. Are we accepting this burden, too? | 21:15 |
| creiht | I would say no | 21:15 |
| soren | creiht: I think that's important. Just supporting py2.5 seems like a half day of work, but if it actually means "support ancient linux distros", it's much more than that. | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I understand your concern, I do. But I believe we have agreement on this. | 21:16 |
| Daviey | O_o... So you can use openstack - but can't use libvirt for example. | 21:16 |
| ttx | at that point in the project history, I'd advise looking forward rather than back | 21:16 |
| soren | Oh, yeah. good one. nove requires libvirt > 0.7.5. | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | creiht: unless there is an option #3 you can think of? | 21:16 |
| soren | and > 0.8.1 for the firewall stuff. | 21:16 |
| jc_smith | for hypervisors, you usually want the latest greatest kvm/xen and not older distros anyways | 21:16 |
| creiht | the main difference is, that it is a lot more difficult to get someone to upgrade python on an older distro, then it is other packages | 21:17 |
| * creiht gives up | 21:17 | |
| MrKohonen | Support for libvirt in old hypervisors is an issue | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | creiht: don't give up, please. | 21:17 |
| alekibango | #2 | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | creiht: the discussion is just that. trying to get all sides, and if you feel strongly, I want to talk it through. | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | creiht: what is the likelihood that someone will be deploying Nova on a distro that does not have 2.6? | 21:18 |
| creiht | I dunno | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | creiht: what is RS' internal systems? | 21:18 |
| creiht | but I would say it is high, that they want to play with it on a system that does not have 2.6 | 21:18 |
| xtoddx | option #3: distro survery on openstack.org? | 21:18 |
| xtoddx | and mailing list? | 21:18 |
| Daviey | creiht, hmm.. using virtualenv should help with that BTW. | 21:18 |
| creiht | jaypipes: for swift we use ubuntu and 2.6 | 21:18 |
| jc_smith | would it make sense swift be 2.5 and nova 2.6? Since the dependencies are much different | 21:19 |
| creiht | Daviey: that is true, but I am talking from an ops perspective, who tend to not like virtualenv | 21:19 |
| _0x44 | jaypipes: In ozone the app servers have python 2.5.2 | 21:19 |
| _0x44 | chris@193134-app1:~$ python --version | 21:19 |
| _0x44 | Python 2.5.2 | 21:19 |
| pvo | our version of python on xenserver 5.5 is 2.5.2 | 21:19 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: yes, a possibility. however, as creiht is pointing out, it may be best to ask the distros/sysadmins themselves? | 21:19 |
| * creiht has fought many of these battles before | 21:19 | |
| jaypipes | creiht: understood. | 21:19 |
| Daviey | creiht, agreed. | 21:19 |
| creiht | As a dev, I would love to stay with 2.6 | 21:19 |
| creiht | it makes it a lot easier | 21:19 |
| anotherjesse | creiht: could py 2.5 support come in a point release? | 21:19 |
| alekibango | how much work it might be to make #1 ? | 21:19 |
| creiht | but I'm making this point purely from the ops perspective | 21:20 |
| jaypipes | _0x44: well, since ozone is built on Ruby I don't really give that much weight ;) | 21:20 |
| creiht | anotherjesse: sure | 21:20 |
| creiht | I'm not trying to say we have to have it first thing, just that it would be nice to have that as a goal | 21:20 |
| _0x44 | jaypipes: ozone is built on Ruby, but going to start migrating onto openstack post austin | 21:20 |
| alekibango | when is another RHEL/CENTOS release? will it contain 2.6 ? | 21:20 |
| soren | I'm not *opposed* to 2.5 working. If people want to put in the effort, that's great, but I'm against making it a release critical issue if there's something that doesn't play well with python 2.5. | 21:20 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: I'm not quite sure... I'd need mtaylor to set up a Tarmac target with 2.5 on it, at the very least, and then get fixing breakages. | 21:20 |
| anotherjesse | creiht: we spent a lot of time fighting python2.5 before we ran away due to issues with multi-processing / threading / signals | 21:20 |
| creiht | alekibango: next RHEL has been real soon now for like forever | 21:20 |
| pvo | _0x44: but the host OS won't necessarily upgrade | 21:20 |
| * alekibango agrees with soren | 21:20 | |
| alekibango | its a bug, but not release critical one | 21:21 |
| soren | I will happily accept patches that make stuff work with python 2.5. | 21:21 |
| jaypipes | _0x44: right, all I was saying is that the version of Python on those hosts, up to this point, hasn't been a big disucssion point, I'm assuming :) | 21:21 |
| creiht | I don't want to make a big issue about it | 21:21 |
| pvo | jaypipes: valid point. I don't knwo what xen 5.6.1 or 6.0 will include. | 21:21 |
| pvo | I haven't looked yet | 21:21 |
| soren | Conversely, I will not reject a patch if it doesn't work with python 2.5. | 21:22 |
| creiht | I didn't think it would turn into this big of a deal | 21:22 |
| _0x44 | jaypipes: Good point, I'll shutup. | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | OK, so, here is a summary decision: "For Austin, we go with 2.6 as requirement. At a later time, if the demand is there, we can do a release targeting back-deployment on 2.5". If agreed, please put #agreed. | 21:22 |
| Daviey | #agreed | 21:23 |
| dabo | #agreed | 21:23 |
| creiht | #ifwehaveto | 21:23 |
| anotherjesse | #agreed | 21:23 |
| creiht | :) | 21:23 |
| zul | #agreed | 21:23 |
| chmouel | #agreed | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | creiht: :) | 21:23 |
| sirp1 | #agreed | 21:23 |
| soren | #agreed | 21:23 |
| devcamcar | #agreed | 21:23 |
| _0x44 | #agreed | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | alrighty then, let's move on. | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | #topic arch board nominations | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | nominate away... | 21:23 |
| alekibango | #agreed | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | alright, send nominations to jonathan.bryce@rackspace.com | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | moving on... | 21:24 |
| soren | Er.. | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | #topic blueprint statuses | 21:24 |
| soren | Wait, what? | 21:24 |
| creiht | heh | 21:24 |
| soren | "arch board"? | 21:24 |
| soren | -v | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | soren: Architecture Board | 21:24 |
| soren | What the heck is that? | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | soren: rick sent an email about it.. | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | soren: one sec, grabbing link. | 21:24 |
| eday | http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance | 21:25 |
| pvo | soren: #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | from rick: | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | We are looking for nominations for the Architecture board. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | [http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance] | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | To nominate yourself or others send an email to jonathan@openstack.org | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | by September 30th. | 21:25 |
| soren | Oh, it got renamed? | 21:25 |
| soren | Ok. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | guess so :) | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | ok, so #topic blueprint statuses | 21:25 |
| xtoddx | are there already some people sitting on it, or is it totally new? | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | I'm going to run down austin blueprints and ask assignees for a brief update. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: not sure, I think dendro-afk is the one to ask about the board. | 21:26 |
| soren | xtoddx: It's being established now, as I understand it. | 21:26 |
| eday | xtoddx: I think they will be appointed at the end of Oct | 21:26 |
| ttx | xtoddx: "Chief Architect" has a seat | 21:26 |
| creiht | xtoddx: I think it is all new | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/austin | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | going from the top... | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: how goes it on image store? | 21:26 |
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| sirp1 | so far so good… working on parallax so far, running in to some issues with some library dependencies (lockfile), but should have those cleared up | 21:27 |
| sirp1 | rootkit has made good progress on teller | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: good to hear. on my own blueprints, making progress, should be done tomorrow... | 21:27 |
| sirp1 | and sounds like (jaypipes) are on the same page as we are for the nova integration piece | 21:28 |
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| sirp1 | #done unless questions | 21:28 |
| jaypipes | cool. xtoddx how's the openstack api blueprint going? any update? | 21:28 |
| xtoddx | maybe _cerberus_ should update? | 21:28 |
| jaypipes | ok | 21:28 |
| pvo | he stepped away for a second | 21:29 |
| pvo | gundlach? | 21:29 |
| eday | I can give some update there too. shared_ip_groups are probably not going to make it in due to back-end mismatches (see email to nova list) | 21:29 |
| jaypipes | no worries. gundlach and eday, want to update your stuff? | 21:29 |
| eday | core functionality is going well | 21:29 |
| jaypipes | eday: k. good to know. | 21:29 |
| xtoddx | the servers_api branch is looking good, anyone interested should review it | 21:30 |
| eday | some things like caching and delta change requests will not be done, but do not change features really | 21:30 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: which blueprint(s) is the servers_api for? | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/austin | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: is that the openstack-api one? | 21:31 |
| eday | jaypipes: it's the openstack-api, but there are bugs files for each task within it | 21:31 |
| eday | (yes, this is not correct, but how it was done) | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | eday: gotcha. ok. | 21:31 |
| xtoddx | austin-openstack-api | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | vishy: the AnsoLabs-assigned blueprints....where do we sit? | 21:32 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: ^^ | 21:32 |
| jaypipes | eday, pvo: is Chris B done with the scheduler stuff? | 21:32 |
| anotherjesse | guest-agent is mostly with xen | 21:32 |
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| jaypipes | anotherjesse: should I ask ewan for a status on that one then? | 21:33 |
| pvo | jaypipes: I think the simple scheduler is done | 21:33 |
| eday | jaypipes: the start or a scheduler is in there, but I don't think Chris is taskedwith it anymore | 21:33 |
| _cerberus_ | re: the openstack api - things are coming along, but there are a host of tasks yet to be done. http://etherpad.openstack.org/fm0PKBhE3D for reference sake | 21:33 |
| anotherjesse | jaypipes: guest agent is only implemented in the xenapi driver for compute | 21:33 |
| jaypipes | pvo, eday: ok, cool. if one of you could update that blueprint, myuch appreciated | 21:33 |
| eday | jaypipes: not sure who owns it now :) | 21:34 |
| anotherjesse | joshua mckenty did a pass - he is working on further testing -- he started with the python library but moved back to using CLI tools and shelling out since there were issue with compatability and building the library without being a major PITA | 21:34 |
| jaypipes | eday: then it should be unassigned from Chris, no? :) | 21:34 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: ok, good to hear. could I ask you or Josh to update those blueprints when you get a chance? 2 days till freeze... | 21:34 |
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| anotherjesse | rescue is mostly done (and will be proposed for merge once the openstack API is added) | 21:35 |
| anotherjesse | vishy is working on that | 21:35 |
| jaypipes | alright | 21:35 |
| anotherjesse | the web-based-serial-console is done module testing in xen and adding the openstack api | 21:35 |
| jaypipes | #action anotherjesse, josh: update blueprint statuses... | 21:35 |
| anotherjesse | resize, migration, snapshotting are designed but might not make it ... | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | #action jaypipes: track down ewan for status on xen blueprints. | 21:36 |
| anotherjesse | :( | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: no worries. the sooner we can get a definitive status, the better, so we can move them out to Bexar, ok? | 21:36 |
| anotherjesse | when working on scheduler blueprint (which shows started but it is actually already merged) we added the required functionality to implement resize, migration | 21:37 |
| anotherjesse | but it will depend on how much time the nebula release (which happens this monday) takes | 21:37 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: so is the resize blueprint actually implemented then? | 21:37 |
| anotherjesse | since we have to release first | 21:37 |
| anotherjesse | jaypipes: resize has been designed and support added to scheduler - but not actually implemented | 21:38 |
| anotherjesse | mostly missing copying the image from the old machine to the new one | 21:38 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: ok, understood. | 21:38 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: pls do update the blueprint statuses as accurately as possible. dendro-afk and I will move the blueprints that can't be completed out to Bexar, where those blueprints will serve as starting points for discussions at the next summit. | 21:38 |
| anotherjesse | we updated delievery already | 21:39 |
| anotherjesse | but will update with more info | 21:39 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: awesome, thx much :) | 21:39 |
| jaypipes | alrighty, any more updates before we discuss the next topic? | 21:39 |
| soren | yeah. | 21:39 |
| soren | If anyone cares, the austin-ec2-security-groups spec is going pretty well. I pushed a fresh version of the branch this morning which seems in good shape. vishy and anotherjesse pointed out a problem yesterday, though, that I haven't addresssed yet (no filtering between vm's in the same security group), but that shoulnd't be too big of a deal. | 21:40 |
| soren | It can get merged now, if reviewed, and then I fix that problem up afterwards. | 21:40 |
| jaypipes | soren: so is that a long way of asking for a code review? ;) | 21:40 |
| soren | It's a pretty big patch. I'd love to get it merged sooner rather than later. | 21:40 |
| soren | jaypipes: I think it is, yes :) | 21:40 |
| anotherjesse | we can review - sicne we have it in our deploy branch already | 21:40 |
| jaypipes | #action ALL: please review soren's ec2 security groups merge proposal | 21:41 |
| jaypipes | #link https://code.launchpad.net/nova/+activereviews | 21:41 |
| anotherjesse | we've already been pushing our patches to soren for the sec group stuff | 21:41 |
| anotherjesse | I have heard that the hyper-v work is going well | 21:41 |
| jaypipes | anotherjesse: cool. let's get that reviewed and merged then... :) | 21:41 |
| vishy | soren: i'm good with it, just as long as we are careful to let people know that they need bleeding-edge libvirt to make it work | 21:41 |
| anotherjesse | but I don't have an update other than that | 21:42 |
| gundlach | sorry, was late and then catching up with logs. api is "coming along" -- i've got 2 tasks left on my plate which i am pretty sure will be done by tomorrow evening | 21:42 |
| eday | jaypipes, all: and in general, we have a lot of other outstanding merge reqs we need to get in before thursday (or deny) | 21:42 |
| jaypipes | eday: indeed. | 21:42 |
| anotherjesse | also xtoddx got austin-rename-servers merged | 21:42 |
| anotherjesse | so we will update it as well | 21:42 |
| soren | vishy: True. | 21:42 |
| jaypipes | #action ALL: Many merge proposals need a second reviewer...let's get things merged! https://code.launchpad.net/nova/+activereviews | 21:43 |
| gundlach | eday, _cerberus_: if shared ip groups isn't going into Austin, is there anything eday can do to help you, _cerberus_? | 21:43 |
| eday | gundlach: I'm still stubbing out as much as I can, but yeah, we I can focus on other core bits. | 21:44 |
| xtoddx | actually, austin_rename_servers just got updated to latest trunk and is ready to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/rename/+merge/36382 | 21:44 |
| eday | gundlach: also, I'm traveling tomorrow to speak about openstack on thursday in baltimore, so my time is limited this week | 21:44 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: cool. | 21:44 |
| jaypipes | an update from /me.. I pushed off completing the nosql datastore driver until Bexar. It because way too big of a PITA and I wanted to help with Glance's stuff... | 21:45 |
| jaypipes | s/because/became | 21:45 |
| jaypipes | alright, I don't see any of the summit organizers on the channel, so we'll skip the next topic (summit). Anyone want to discuss anything else? 10 .. 9 .. 8 .. | 21:46 |
| gundlach | eday: if you have a chance, it looks like the GlanceImageService is a remaining task (once Glance is ready to be coded against) | 21:46 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: that's what I am working on. :) | 21:46 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: anything from the etherpad would be great | 21:46 |
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| gundlach | jaypipes: sorry, i should have read the logs more carefully :) | 21:47 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: no worries! | 21:47 |
| anotherjesse | jaypipes: perhaps the swift guys can give advice on eventlet and connection pooling? | 21:47 |
| dabo | The Call for Proposals for the 2011 US PyCon is open now until 2010-11-01. I think we should have some OpenStack representation | 21:47 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: i'll update the etherpad ghetto-bug-tracker we're using | 21:47 |
| dabo | http://us.pycon.org/2011/speaker/proposals/ | 21:47 |
| creiht | anotherjesse: what problem are you guys running into? | 21:47 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: cool | 21:47 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: after I merge in my current iteration of the servers_api branch, anyone is free to pick off the remaining tasks. | 21:47 |
| eday | anotherjesse: we just need to replace singletons with a pool really | 21:48 |
| anotherjesse | k | 21:48 |
| jaypipes | ok dokey, going to end the meeting... | 21:49 |
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| xtoddx | eday: are there managers other than authmanager? | 21:49 |
| jaypipes | 3 | 21:49 |
| xtoddx | or, singletons, rather | 21:49 |
| soren | Yes. | 21:49 |
| soren | In the rpc code. | 21:49 |
| soren | rpc.Connection or something. | 21:49 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: rpc.Connection | 21:50 |
| jaypipes | soren: damn, jinx. | 21:50 |
| xtoddx | ok | 21:50 |
| anotherjesse | move to #openstack? | 21:50 |
| jaypipes | yep. | 21:50 |
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| jaypipes | #endmeeting | 21:50 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 28 21:50:38 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-28-21.03.html | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-28-21.03.txt | 21:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-28-21.03.log.html | 21:50 |
| jaypipes | thx all. | 21:50 |
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| eday | xtoddx: I "fixed" the rpc consumer singleton in the api, but it's a new instance each time now, not a pool | 21:51 |
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| eday | xtoddx: but that also had to do with replacing the busy-poll with a wait call, not just eventlet | 21:51 |
| xtoddx | eday: that should be fine though, right? not much overhead in creating it is there? | 21:51 |
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| xtoddx | eady: at least that is the case for authmanager | 21:52 |
| soren | xtoddx: Your question suggests you've run into some of the problems I saw today. | 21:52 |
| soren | Let's take it in #openstack. | 21:52 |
| xtoddx | k | 21:52 |
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