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| ttx | polom polom | 20:59 |
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| eday | polom? | 20:59 |
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| ttx | polom. | 20:59 |
| * creiht bows | 21:00 | |
| Daviey | o/ | 21:00 |
| dabo | \o | 21:00 |
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| ttx | Hello everyone ! | 21:00 |
| devcamcar | greetings | 21:00 |
| jk0 | hi | 21:00 |
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| soren | o/ | 21:01 |
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| ttx | Let's get started. | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 11 21:01:18 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:01 |
| ttx | Welcome to our weekly OpenStack team meeting... | 21:01 |
| ttx | Today's agenda is at: | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic Current release stage: Implementation | 21:02 |
| ttx | #info We are 2 days away from FeatureFreeze (Jan 13) ! | 21:02 |
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| ttx | By the end of the day Thursday we'll try to have all feature branches merged. | 21:02 |
| ttx | The idea is to switch as early as we can to testing/bugfixing mode, which is difficult to do if we continue to merge new features and disruptive changes. | 21:02 |
| ttx | #info Feature branches that are not merged in time should be kept for the next development window (Cactus, opening February 4), or you can file a FeatureFreeze exception request to try to sneak in Bexar. | 21:03 |
| ttx | The exception process described at http://wiki.openstack.org/FeatureFreeze is a bit inconvenient, I propose we simplify it: | 21:03 |
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| ttx | (current) create bug justifying exception, subscribe me to it, link bug to BMP, wait for me to ACK the exception in the bug | 21:03 |
| ttx | We could get rid of the bug creation and do everything in the BMP (branch merge proposal): | 21:03 |
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| ttx | (proposed) justify the exception in a BMP comment, and add me to the reviewers, wait for me to approve the BMP | 21:04 |
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| ttx | The drawback being, if people delete the BMP, we lose the history of approval. | 21:04 |
| ttx | Which solution do you prefer ? Please vote "current" or "proposed" | 21:04 |
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| soren | Proposed is fine with me. I have e-mail trail of everything anyway. Muahhaha. | 21:05 |
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| ttx | anyone else caring either way ? | 21:05 |
| dragondm | proposed. sounds simpler. simple is good. | 21:05 |
| annegentle | proposed is ok if you can help me keep up for the release notes :) | 21:05 |
| pvo | proposed works... once its merged, does the history matter? | 21:05 |
| dabo | proposed looks much more direct | 21:05 |
| ttx | proposed is more obvious, yes. | 21:06 |
| ttx | ok, I'll change it in the wiki | 21:06 |
| ttx | #action ttx to document simplified exception procedure in wiki | 21:06 |
| ttx | Note that Bexar-targeted features, or branches that do not affect so much the existing code are much more likely to get an exception granted. | 21:06 |
| ttx | Questions ? | 21:07 |
| ttx | (I accept bribes in all kinds of currency) | 21:07 |
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| ttx | ok, moving on... | 21:08 |
| ttx | #topic Release status | 21:08 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ | 21:08 |
| ttx | All remaining "High" specs are in good shape and on track for merging, yay | 21:08 |
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| ttx | "Medium" specs that may not make it without attention: | 21:08 |
| ttx | * bexar-migration-live, ipv6-support and sheepdog-support branches need some review love, see below | 21:08 |
| ttx | * image-service-use-glance-clients is not proposed yet | 21:09 |
| ttx | jaypipes: still planning to propose a merge for that, or should we defer ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | ah, we don't have a jaypipes around. Will sync with him | 21:09 |
| sirp- | jaypipes, ttx: xs-snaps prop right now does some of that (perhaps all of it) | 21:09 |
| ttx | sirp-: a-ha. | 21:10 |
| sirp- | image service is using glance.client now | 21:10 |
| ttx | sirp-: thanks, I'll sync with jaypipes to confirm that covers everything/enough | 21:10 |
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| ttx | * snapshot-instance is not started | 21:10 |
| ttx | vishy: should we defer it to cactus ? | 21:10 |
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| ttx | Hm, I'll sync with him offline. | 21:12 |
| ttx | #topic Review/merging status | 21:12 |
| ttx | I posted a status this morning... glance and swift seem to be on track, nova needs some attention: | 21:12 |
| ttx | Unreviewed branches: | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~nii/nova/nova-deployment-tool/+merge/45335 | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/cow/+merge/45293 | 21:12 |
| ttx | Targeted features that are late in the review/fix process: | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~ntt-pf-lab/nova/ipv6-support/+merge/45228 | 21:13 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~nttdata/nova/live-migration/+merge/44940 | 21:13 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~morita-kazutaka/nova/sheepdog/+merge/45093 | 21:13 |
| ttx | Please give them all some review love ! | 21:13 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:13 |
| pvo | <3 | 21:13 |
| ttx | Anything on anyone's mind ? | 21:14 |
| pvo | ttx: what is your confidence for bexar as of today? | 21:14 |
| pvo | and is there anything that need critical attention besides the merges? | 21:14 |
| ttx | Feature-wise, I think we are already in good shape compared to the defined plan | 21:14 |
| ttx | two issues: | 21:15 |
| vishy | ttx: yes defer | 21:15 |
| ttx | - the plan might not reflect what we wanted to have | 21:15 |
| ttx | - the current state of trunk is barely testable | 21:15 |
| pvo | not sure what we can do about #1... but #2 seems fixable. | 21:16 |
| ttx | So I think we really need to switch into test/qa/bugfix gear in order to find and fix the issues before release | 21:16 |
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| pvo | ttx: we're planning a bug sprint in SAT the week of the 24th | 21:16 |
| ttx | About #1, nothing we can do right now. But we'll need to doublecheck the plan for Cactus | 21:16 |
| pvo | ttx: agreed there | 21:16 |
| ttx | So critical attention is in the merges right now, since the current state of trunk doesn't encourage me to accept late branches | 21:17 |
| ttx | so let's break it badly, but early :) | 21:19 |
| ttx | also the current state of trunk highlights the need for Jay's smoketesting on merges magic | 21:19 |
| tr3buchet | why the lack of confidence regarding trunk? (just curious) | 21:19 |
| ttx | vishy said that its state prevented them from testing merges correctly | 21:20 |
| ttx | it should be unstable, but not to the point of preventing further merging at crunch time | 21:20 |
| ttx | tr3buchet: I still think we will fix all issues, but the state it's been in seem to show we don't do enough automated tests | 21:21 |
| soren | +1 | 21:21 |
| tr3buchet | i understand | 21:22 |
| tr3buchet | makes perfect sense | 21:22 |
| dragondm | what's our coverage? | 21:22 |
| sandywalsh | +1 | 21:23 |
| ttx | 69% lines, according to Hudson ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-coverage/ | 21:23 |
| ttx | (for Nova) | 21:23 |
| dragondm | ah. we have a separate job for it. I see | 21:24 |
| dragondm | I was looking at the regulat Nova job, and not seein g it | 21:24 |
| ttx | I hope we'll be able to prioritize jaypipes's hudson-smoketesting at high prio for Cactus and get something done in that area | 21:25 |
| dragondm | good | 21:25 |
| soren | I'd love to spend more time on automated testing. | 21:25 |
| ttx | soren: I am game as well. After one cycle I should spend less time setting up my release tools | 21:26 |
| ttx | ok, let's wrap up, unless someone has anythign else to discuss ? | 21:26 |
| ttx | alrighty then | 21:27 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:27 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 11 21:27:38 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-01-11-21.01.html | 21:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-01-11-21.01.txt | 21:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-01-11-21.01.log.html | 21:27 |
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| ttx | Thanks for attending ! | 21:27 |
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| tr3buchet | welcommen! | 21:28 |
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