Tuesday, 2011-01-25

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ttx~o~21:00
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ttxLet's start, I heard there was some RS thing starting in 30 minutes21:01
ttx#startmeeting21:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 25 21:01:13 2011 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.21:01
ttxWelcome to our weekly OpenStack team meeting...21:01
ttxToday's agenda is at:21:01
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ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings21:01
ttx#topic Actions from previous meeting21:01
ttx* ttx to summarize the decision on live-migration: DONE21:01
ttxNote that NTT Data finally decided to defer to merging early in Cactus.21:01
ttx* ttx to turn his failed IRC attempt to a real vote21:02
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ttxThat was done, the poll ended one hour ago. And the winner is...21:02
ttxDiablo!21:02
ttxBy a fair margin. Results at the bottom of https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/d-release-naming21:02
pvoha21:03
ttxGood fight put up by Dublin and Dorris fans21:03
ttx#topic Current release stage: QA21:03
ttx#info We are now deep into QA stage. We need to test, find and fix and merge as many bugs as we can before GammaFreeze.21:04
ttx#info GammaFreeze is at EOD Thursday, at that point we'll restrict merging to release-critical issues only21:04
ttxRelease-critical issues are bugs that we estimate we can't release with. It's usually all "critical" bugs, and most "High" bugs.21:04
ttxThat said, sometimes we include other less-important issues that would be a problem if we released with them21:04
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ttxExample: "Use Glance instead of KRM json to Relate Images": if we don't fix that wishlist item, we need to document use of the KRM json... which we want to drop asap.21:05
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ttxTo ask for a bug to be added to the RC buglist, you should comment on the corresponding bugs and explain why we can't release without the bugfix and why it can't break something else.21:05
ttxPrefixing bug subject by "[RC]" and/or pinging me (or a member of the corresponding "Drivers" team) should do the trick.21:05
ttxQuestions ?21:06
ttxok, moving on...21:06
ttx#topic Release status21:07
ttxWe stopped merging full feature branches, so the table at http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ is final21:07
ttxI think we retrospectively created blueprints for significant stuff that was merged, let me know if we missed anything.21:07
ttxWe may still have "default behavior" changes that need FFe, but I'd like to have them in ASAP. That includes:21:07
ttx* https://code.launchpad.net/~rconradharris/nova/kernel_ramdisk_glance/+merge/4717021:07
ttx* https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/friendly-db/+merge/4679721:08
ttxPlease review them in priority.21:08
ttxI've started working on RC buglists. After a small discussion with creiht, they are now using milestones instead of series, now:21:08
ttx#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/bexar-rc21:08
ttx#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.2.021:08
ttx#action ttx to sync with jaypipes wrt. glance milestones and RC buglists21:09
jaypipesttx: I'm here...21:09
ttxjaypipes: will talk to you later, i'm a bit lost with your Glance milestones :)21:09
jaypipesttx: sorry, meeting with pvo and lauren as we speak..21:09
jaypipesttx: the milestones are necessary when you do a release...21:09
ttxjaypipes: I'll ping you about Glance status, probably tomorrow morning21:10
ttxAny question on release status ?21:10
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ttxI saw we uncovered a critical issue running on separate systems21:12
ttxbug 70755421:12
ttxI'll try to spend some cycles on that21:12
ttxok, moving on21:12
ttx#topic Review of docs.openstack.org - progress report and review request21:12
ttxUnfortunately annegentle is sick, I'm copypasting for her:21:13
ttxannegentle> I am sick and can't talk at the meeting about the ongoing work for docs.openstack.org. I did want to pass along two URLs for people who want to take a look at the plans and work-in-progress.21:13
ttxannegentle> How to for editing documentation:21:13
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation/HowTo21:13
ttxannegentle> The PDF (rough draft, still working on output and source)21:13
ttx#link http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~annegentle/openstack-devel/working/view/head:/doc/build/target/docbkx/pdf/os-book.pdf21:13
ttxannegentle> Again I apologize - I will keep everyone updated on the mailing list once the site itself is ready for review.21:13
dendrobatesget well soon anne, if you read through the logs:)21:14
ttx#topic Cactus preparation21:14
* ttx hands the mike to dendrobates21:14
dendrobatesThe themes for Cactus are stability and testing.21:14
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ttxyay21:15
dendrobatesour goal for cactus is to merge any major changes asap and spend most of the cycle fixing things up21:15
dendrobateswith that in mind, we need all proposed blueprints for cactus in by bexar release21:16
ttxdendrobates: maybe we should move FeatureFreeze a bit up in the schedule ?21:16
dendrobatesttx: good idea21:16
ttxdendrobates: we'll finalize the Cactus schedule next week.21:17
dendrobatesSo please let us know about any blueprints asap21:17
dendrobateswe will also be a bit tougher about what we accept for the release21:17
ttxdendrobates: what about the "deferred" blueprints from http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ ?21:18
dendrobatesso please do not take it personally if we defer your feature21:18
dendrobatesttx: it depends on how far they are along.  We will want to merge them asap in the cycle21:18
ttxso their assignee repropose them for Cactus at some point21:18
dendrobatesif code exists and they just missed they will almost certainly go in21:19
ttxshould repropose*21:19
dendrobatesyes21:19
ttxok21:19
pvowe're going to need to add some more BPs to fill out our feature set21:19
dendrobatesany questions?21:19
pvoI'll work with ttx and dendrobates on which ones should go in21:19
dendrobatescomments?21:20
sorenSounds good to me.21:20
* ttx likes more testing.21:21
dendrobatesok, I'm done21:21
ttx#topic Open discussion21:21
dendrobatesttx: actually I added a topic at the last minute21:21
ttxarh21:21
* ttx refreshes21:21
henrichrubinthis blueprint is pretty much complete, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/frontend-heterogenous-architecture-support, just needs testing module.21:21
ttx#topic New process for becoming core dev21:22
ttxdendrobates: floor is yours again21:22
dendrobatesthe core dev proposal was approved and we can now start adding core devs21:22
dendrobates#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess21:22
dendrobatesit's pretty simple21:23
* vishy slides in late21:23
dendrobatesjust send an email to the list asking to become a core dev21:23
dendrobatesand the existing core devs will vote lazy consensus style21:23
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dendrobatesI have a wiki page describing the responsibilities of a core dev that I will be putting up soon21:24
dendrobatesand I will send an email to the list about the process.21:24
dendrobates#end21:24
ttxdendrobates: do you plan to have a process for removing coredevs, or should they just step down considerately ?21:25
dendrobatesright now the later.21:25
ttx(like, when they don't have time to do reviews anymore)21:25
dendrobateswe so have a plan to make all team memberships expire after a year21:25
dendrobatesbut you just need to click a link to renew21:25
dendrobatesthat will clean up people that drop off the face of the earth21:26
ttxI think it's important to have -core team that is representative of active reviewers (as opposed to past active reviewers)21:26
dendrobatesagreed21:26
dendrobatesalthough inactivity does no actual harm21:26
ttxok, back to...21:27
ttx#topic Open discussion again21:27
ttxanything else ? comments questions ?21:27
devcamcarhey all, i'd like to talk about the openstack django dashboard briefly21:27
devcamcarits up, but i haven't formally announced it to the mailing list yet21:27
devcamcarbecause it still needs a bit of content loving21:27
ttxdevcamcar: screenshots!21:27
devcamcarttx: i will provide some non home page screenshots today21:28
devcamcari'm hoping to find a few people that can help provide content for the home page21:28
devcamcarboth design and copy21:28
ttxdevcamcar: tutorial on setting it up!21:28
kpeppledevcamcar: is it fully operational ? ( I get errors when clicking on the images link within a project)21:29
devcamcarit is fully operational21:29
devcamcarit is the same backend code that nasa is using for the nebula dashboard21:30
devcamcarso if you are running into specific issues find my on irc and i can help you troubleshoot21:30
* ttx notes that his list of things to test is growing at an insane rate21:30
devcamcarinstallation directions are provided in the READMEs in the lp repos21:30
devcamcarlocated at http://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard21:30
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dendrobatessoren ttx and I will be at fosdem in Brussels next week if anyone want to grab a beer or test the release with us.21:31
devcamcar(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devcamcar/openstack-dashboard/trunk/view/head:/README)21:31
ttxdendrobates: I know Daviey should be there over the weekend21:32
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ttxok, let's wrap up21:32
ttx#endmeeting21:33
openstackMeeting ended Tue Jan 25 21:33:05 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:33
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ttxThanks everyone !21:33
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