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| glenc | \o | 19:58 |
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| creiht | ☺/ | 19:59 |
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| spectorclan_ | yessum | 19:59 |
| dragondm | \o/ | 19:59 |
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| dabo | o/ | 20:00 |
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| westmaas | I think its an hour later this week :) | 20:01 |
| westmaas | what with the time change in US but not GMT | 20:01 |
| creiht | ☹ | 20:01 |
| pvo | ha | 20:01 |
| justinsb | I think we're just an hour earlier! | 20:02 |
| westmaas | I mean I'm cool with now :D | 20:02 |
| pvo | yep | 20:02 |
| pvo | 4pm | 20:02 |
| comstud | oh | 20:02 |
| comstud | doh. | 20:02 |
| westmaas | well 5pm | 20:02 |
| westmaas | :P | 20:02 |
| spectorclan_ | okay, will come back then. thanks | 20:02 |
| dabo | DST FTW! | 20:03 |
| westmaas | haha | 20:03 |
| dragondm | pfah. | 20:03 |
| glenc | Does anybody really know what time it is? | 20:04 |
| spectorclan_ | ttx said 90 minutes recently on #openstack | 20:05 |
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| _0x44 | It's currently 20:00 UTC, meetings are at 21... | 20:06 |
| * creiht blames glenc | 20:08 | |
| glenc | wait, wut? | 20:08 |
| creiht | he started it | 20:09 |
| creiht | :) | 20:09 |
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| devcamcar | holy crap, this just blew my mind | 20:20 |
| tr3buchet | i'm glad people redefine time........ | 20:28 |
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| RobertLaptop | It could be worse we could live in one of those timezones were they change 4 times a year not just twice a year | 20:30 |
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| soren | RobertLaptop: Never heard of that. Where are they? | 20:34 |
| devcamcar | wow really? where? | 20:35 |
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| RobertLaptop | I think that is true in London | 20:41 |
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| RobertLaptop | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=136 | 20:42 |
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| ttx | RobertLaptop: that's twice a year. | 20:46 |
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| RobertLaptop | http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/egypt-ends-dst-2010.html | 20:53 |
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| ttx | RobertLaptop: heh | 20:57 |
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| ttx | ~0~ | 20:59 |
| creiht | ☹/ | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:00 |
| dendrobates | o/ | 21:00 |
| spectorclan_ | 0/ | 21:00 |
| ttx | Let's get started ! | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 21:01:08 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:01 |
| ttx | Welcome to our weekly OpenStack team meeting... | 21:01 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:01 | |
| ttx | * ttx and spectorclan_ to look at providing weekly focus ML post | 21:01 |
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| ttx | I sent the first version on Monday, let me know how useful you think it is. | 21:02 |
| jaypipes | ttx: extremely. | 21:02 |
| soren | ttx: It seems to have worked wonders. | 21:02 |
| ttx | ok, i'll do it again.. and again.. and again.. | 21:02 |
| * soren replaces ttx with a cron job | 21:02 | |
| ttx | * jaypipes to raise a ML thread about review focus for nova-core | 21:02 |
| * jaypipes failed. | 21:02 | |
| ttx | jaypipes: I might beat you to it though with my BMPFreeze focus email on Thu | 21:03 |
| ttx | Hrm. I mean Friday | 21:03 |
| ttx | * ttx to update status on cynb's deferred spec list if nobody beats him to it: DONE | 21:03 |
| ttx | * ttx to sync with Tushar on cactus-flatmanager-ipv6-support status: DONE | 21:03 |
| eday | speaking of review emails, we should probably email about review days schedule. someone pinged me today it was my day, I didn't know we had started | 21:03 |
| ttx | #action jaypipes to try to send review focus email before ttx sends the BMPFreeze focus email on Friday | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | ttx: will try. | 21:04 |
| ttx | jaypipes: if not, I'll cover it then | 21:04 |
| ttx | eday: i thought soren's magic autosent emails ? | 21:05 |
| soren | It's meant to. | 21:05 |
| soren | eday: You didn't get an e-mail from me? | 21:05 |
| _0x44 | I didn't either. | 21:05 |
| ttx | #info Review days have started, in case you haven't noticed yet. | 21:06 |
| ttx | (for the minutes) | 21:06 |
| devcamcar | soren: me neither, though i had put it on my cal :) | 21:06 |
| * jk0 didn't either | 21:06 | |
| ttx | soren: fail? | 21:06 |
| eday | soren: only a q if I wanted to participate, not that it was starting w/ schedule | 21:06 |
| soren | eday: Weird. | 21:06 |
| * soren looks into that. | 21:06 | |
| soren | It's meant to send an e-mail to the reviewer of the day. | 21:07 |
| ttx | #action soren to fix his review day reminder | 21:07 |
| soren | ..and if it fails, it's meant to e-mail me. | 21:07 |
| ttx | Moving on... | 21:07 |
| ttx | #topic Current release stage: Development | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current release stage: Development" | 21:07 | |
| eday | might want to email the entire list too once in a while so folks know who to bug | 21:07 |
| soren | eday: It's on the wiki. | 21:07 |
| ttx | We are 2 days from BranchMergeProposalFreeze, which will happen late on March 17. | 21:07 |
| ttx | All your feature branches should be proposed by then. | 21:08 |
| soren | eday: http://wiki.openstack.org/Nova/ReviewDays | 21:08 |
| * soren shuts up now | 21:08 | |
| eday | soren: I saw, wasn't easy to find though :) | 21:08 |
| ttx | Be ready to answer any question the reviewers may have on your proposed branches, so that we can get them all merged in one week. | 21:08 |
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| soren | eday: I include the link in the e-mail :) | 21:08 |
| ttx | #info Feature branches that are not proposed in time should be kept for the next merge window (Diablo, opening April 14), or follow the BMPFreeze exception process to try to sneak in Cactus. | 21:08 |
| ttx | See exception process at: | 21:08 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/BranchMergeProposalFreeze | 21:08 |
| ttx | The core teams should concentrate their review efforts on the feature branches that were proposed before the freeze. | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | Gold Team, focus your fire on the review droids. | 21:09 |
| ttx | Questions on that stage ? | 21:09 |
| eday | comment: if you're not on that list, don't be disappointed. 30 active + 20wip reviews will not happen in one week | 21:10 |
| ttx | That brings us to: | 21:10 |
| ttx | #topic Cactus Release status | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cactus Release status" | 21:10 | |
| ttx | Check out: | 21:10 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ | 21:10 |
| ttx | I'm always complaining loudly when we suck, so let's cheer up for a bit | 21:11 |
| ttx | We've actually been doing a good job at early merging in Cactus, compared to Bexar. | 21:11 |
| ttx | Lots of specs are already "Implemented". | 21:11 |
| ttx | Review effort should go in priority on the planned feature branches: | 21:11 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~ntt-pf-lab/nova/flatmanager-ipv6/+merge/53064 | 21:11 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/zones3/+merge/52565 | 21:11 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-lxc/+merge/51469 | 21:12 |
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| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~citrix-openstack/nova/vmware-vsphere-support/+merge/53060 | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~citrix-openstack/nova/xenapi-netinject-prop/+merge/49798 | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~tr3buchet/nova/xs_multi_nic/+merge/53458 | 21:12 |
| ttx | https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/nova/openstack-api-version-split/+merge/53510 | 21:12 |
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| ttx | Once we clear those, it's free game. | 21:12 |
| ttx | On the completion rate, based on the current data: | 21:13 |
| ttx | Essential specs: | 21:13 |
| ttx | Glance: 3 completed, 1 proposed | 21:13 |
| ttx | Nova: 1 proposed | 21:13 |
| ttx | High specs: | 21:13 |
| ttx | Glance: 1 completed, 1 deferred | 21:13 |
| ttx | Nova: 4 completed, 2 in progress, 1 in jeopardy and 2 deferred | 21:13 |
| ttx | Other specs: | 21:13 |
| ttx | 16 implemented, 5 proposed, 6 in progress, 8 not started and 3 deferred | 21:13 |
| jaypipes | ttx: all essential Glance specs will be done... final one waiting on a fix on sqlalchemy-migrate... coming soon. | 21:13 |
| ttx | Does anyone know of any spec in that list that will not get done ? | 21:13 |
| ttx | I'm seeing a lot of "Non started" specs in particular... | 21:14 |
| ttx | I guess those should be deferred, please mark them as such if you know they can't make it | 21:14 |
| _0x44 | jaypipes: When that spec is ready for merge, can you ping me? I'm avail to review it | 21:14 |
| ttx | Anything in jeopardy that might not make it ? | 21:15 |
| ttx | Did I just lose everyone with boring stats ? | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | _0x44: sure. it's already up though: https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/glance/checksum/+merge/52569 | 21:16 |
| _0x44 | jaypipes: Oh, I can't read... you know that. | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | ttx: auth and ssl MAY be in jeopardy for glance, about a 30% chance they won't hit if I can't push through this crap with migrate by EOD tomorrow. | 21:16 |
| ttx | jaypipes: ok, we'll wait for EOD tomorrow then :) | 21:17 |
| ttx | I guess I'll chase down the other "not started" owners and update their status | 21:18 |
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| ttx | On the Nova stabilization effort: | 21:18 |
| ttx | Last week we had 16 bugs opened and 10 fixes committed | 21:18 |
| ttx | This week we had 35 bugs opened and 29 fixes committed | 21:18 |
| ttx | So we are back to normal rates :) | 21:18 |
| ttx | Last minute comments, before we switch to another topic ? | 21:19 |
| ttx | ok | 21:20 |
| ttx | #topic Election & Nomination Process | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Election & Nomination Process" | 21:20 | |
| ttx | spectorclan: hello | 21:20 |
| spectorclan_ | hello | 21:20 |
| spectorclan_ | I just want to check and see if anyone has any questions with the process that I posed today? | 21:20 |
| pvo | I have one. | 21:20 |
| spectorclan_ | yup | 21:20 |
| pvo | Can you explain this a bit more "The online election tool we are using allows for restricted access | 21:20 |
| pvo | voting based on a secure link but limits access via that link by IP | 21:20 |
| pvo | address." | 21:20 |
| spectorclan_ | Sure, it only allows 1 voter per IP address if I don | 21:21 |
| spectorclan_ | 'hold on | 21:21 |
| spectorclan_ | it only allows 1 vote per IP address if I don't give it a specific email address | 21:21 |
| spectorclan_ | thus, using the mail to all button will not allow everyone to vote | 21:21 |
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| spectorclan_ | That is how I understood it. perhaps ttx can provide more info | 21:21 |
| pvo | ok, so all of us coming from a natted ip will not have any issues? | 21:21 |
| jlmjlm | So, you only need special link from you if multiple of us are behind one NAT? | 21:21 |
| ttx | pvo: CIVS has two types of polls. Public ones were anyone with a link to the poll can vote... | 21:22 |
| pvo | those that got emails? | 21:22 |
| ttx | and the other one that works from a list of emails and sends everyone a unique link | 21:22 |
| spectorclan_ | we are using the private system that ttx mentions so I need emails | 21:22 |
| ttx | Our election uses the latter, obviously | 21:22 |
| ttx | and you can't get emails from launchpad that easily | 21:22 |
| spectorclan_ | I am running a test of the system Thursday if you want to be on it, just let me know via email | 21:23 |
| ttx | lots of people mark their address proivate, hence the recent email Stephen sent to grab emails to use for the PPB poll. | 21:23 |
| spectorclan_ | So far, I have 20 responses which is pretty good start | 21:23 |
| spectorclan_ | For the other 3 election I already have the emails | 21:24 |
| ttx | pvo: agree that sentence is confusing. Just ignore it. | 21:24 |
| spectorclan_ | other issues? | 21:24 |
| ttx | pvo: does the explanation make sense ? | 21:24 |
| pvo | I think so | 21:24 |
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| pvo | I'll ping if not... I'm double booked in 2 meetings at the moment. :/ | 21:25 |
| ttx | pvo: see http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/ for a better explanation | 21:25 |
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| pvo | ttx: thanks! | 21:26 |
| ttx | of the differences between private and public polls. | 21:26 |
| ttx | spectorclan: you done ? | 21:27 |
| spectorclan_ | yup | 21:27 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:27 | |
| ttx | anything, anyone ? | 21:27 |
| spectorclan_ | Remember that OpenStack Design Summit Registration is open | 21:27 |
| pvo | when is the call for summit talks? | 21:27 |
| spectorclan_ | Summit content will be based on Blueprints, etc. | 21:28 |
| pvo | spectorclan_: are you planning the summit? | 21:28 |
| ttx | pvo: It's already open... but i'll send an email about the process soon | 21:28 |
| spectorclan_ | Yes | 21:28 |
| ttx | pvo: see http://wiki.openstack.org/Summit | 21:28 |
| spectorclan_ | ttx and I are doing the Design Summit content with ttx and soon to be voted in PTL leading content for Design Summit | 21:29 |
| spectorclan_ | Conference part handled separately - Day 1 and Day 2 | 21:29 |
| pvo | ttx: got it. thanks. | 21:29 |
| soren | With my last couple of branches merged, trunk can now actually withstand my test suite for extended periods of time. | 21:29 |
| soren | ...so I'll be running it against trunk from now on. | 21:29 |
| pvo | soren: integration tests? | 21:30 |
| soren | Whenever there are new packages in the PPA, they get installed, and the tests just run in a tight loop until there's another update. | 21:30 |
| westmaas | soren: nice | 21:30 |
| soren | pvo: Yup. They're not very extensive, though. At all. | 21:30 |
| westmaas | where are those tests? | 21:30 |
| soren | pvo: I've been fixing a lot of small things along the way to make this stable. | 21:30 |
| pvo | soren: sweet. looking forward to checking those out | 21:31 |
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| soren | pvo: I didn't want to branch out until it was stable. Otherwise it'd be hard to tell regressions from existing instability. | 21:31 |
| soren | westmaas: They are runnign on my own hardware, if that's what you mean. | 21:31 |
| westmaas | soren: I just wanted to take a look at the tests | 21:31 |
| * soren got fed up waiting for hardware from someone else | 21:32 | |
| westmaas | wasn't sure if they were in the nova code base or somewhere separate | 21:32 |
| soren | westmaas: LEt me find the url. | 21:32 |
| westmaas | soren: awesome :) | 21:32 |
| soren | westmaas: lp:~linux2go/nova/jenkins-config | 21:32 |
| soren | westmaas: It's not pretty, but it works pretty well. I'll probably convert it to python unittests, or maybe just switch to the smoketests altogether. | 21:33 |
| jaypipes | are any anso folks here? | 21:33 |
| ttx | I heard devcamcar. | 21:33 |
| westmaas | soren: sounds good, we have some people looking at that as well, I will probably chat with you so we don't duplicate efforts | 21:33 |
| devcamcar | hi! | 21:33 |
| kpepple | soren: can you also publish your setup (not just code) ... it would be good for people to start running similar / same tests against RHEL, Xen, etc. | 21:33 |
| soren | westmaas: Again, this started out very, very small. Then I fixed all the problems I found, added a bit, fixed a bunch of things, added some more, etc. | 21:33 |
| soren | westmaas: The existing smoke tests did way too much stuff. I didn't know where to start on fixing things. | 21:34 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: hi! hey, so there's been a number of bad bugs break trunk recently that could have been prevented with having Anso's smoketests linked to Hudson... any chance we can get those soon? | 21:34 |
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| pvo | soren: westmaas: we have some integration tests we're working on too... | 21:34 |
| pvo | lets talk about it soon | 21:34 |
| soren | kpepple: What sort of stuff are you missing? | 21:34 |
| westmaas | pvo: haha yes please | 21:34 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: note, I'm not at all blaming Anso for the bugs! just itching for those smoketests to be intergrated :) | 21:34 |
| devcamcar | jaypipes: what do you mean "get those"? they are in the repo, unless there is something specific you are looking for? | 21:35 |
| soren | jaypipes: I'll integrate them into my jenkins setup tomorrow. | 21:35 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: the ones here: http://ansolabs.no-ip.org:9000/ | 21:35 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: can we hook those jobs into our Tarmac pit so that if the smoketests fail, we can prevent a merge? | 21:35 |
| devcamcar | jaypipes: ahh yes, should be just whats in trunk, just needs integration magic and sounds like soren is on it | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar, soren: k, cool :) | 21:36 |
| kpepple | soren: sorry, just looking at code. got it. | 21:36 |
| soren | I'm not sure they'll be able to prevent a merge. | 21:36 |
| soren | That'll be tricky. | 21:36 |
| soren | ..but we'll know very quickly if something breaks. | 21:36 |
| soren | It's better than what we have now, at least. | 21:36 |
| ttx | anything else before we close the bar ? | 21:37 |
| pvo | last call? | 21:37 |
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| ttx | I'll be giving an Openstack presentation next week at UKUUG Spring Conference in Leeds, for those in the area | 21:38 |
| spectorclan_ | ttx: be sure to send the slides to me for posting and take pictures | 21:38 |
| ttx | spectorclan: will do my best | 21:39 |
| ttx | If I don't get sick like last time. | 21:39 |
| ttx | ok, time to end it | 21:39 |
| spectorclan_ | start taking C vitamins | 21:39 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 21:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 21:39:40 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-15-21.01.html | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-15-21.01.txt | 21:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-15-21.01.log.html | 21:39 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone ! | 21:39 |
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