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| sandywalsh | o/ | 20:58 |
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| dendrobates | o/ | 20:59 |
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| ttx | \o | 20:59 |
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| jk0 | \o/ | 20:59 |
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| eday | jk0: calm down | 21:01 |
| eday | :) | 21:01 |
| blamar__ | (ಠ_ಠ) | 21:01 |
| jk0 | :P | 21:01 |
| ttx | ok, let's get started | 21:01 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 21:01:39 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:01 |
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| ttx | Welcome everyone to our weekly meeting... | 21:01 |
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| ttx | Today's agenda: | 21:02 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic Current release stage: QA | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current release stage: QA" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | We are 2 days away from GammaFreeze, which will happen late on April 7. | 21:02 |
| ttx | So we have two more days of unrestricted bugfixing frenzy. | 21:02 |
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| ttx | #info Once we hit GammaFreeze we are less than one week before release, so we want to avoid introducing last-minute regressions | 21:03 |
| ttx | #info We concentrate on fixing a subset of release-critical bugs ("RC bugs"), which will be added at: | 21:03 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/cactus-rc | 21:03 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/cactus-rc | 21:03 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.3-rc | 21:03 |
| ttx | If after GammaFreeze you want to propose random bugfix branches for merging, you should ask for their inclusion in the RC bugs list. | 21:03 |
| ttx | See process at http://wiki.openstack.org/GammaFreeze -- basically you need to explain why the benefit of the bugfix clearly outweighs the risk of regression that it brings | 21:04 |
| ttx | Questions ? | 21:04 |
| soren | How does that actually work? | 21:04 |
| soren | I mean.. How do I "ask for their inclusion tin the RC bugs list"? | 21:04 |
| ttx | "See process at http://wiki.openstack.org/GammaFreeze" | 21:05 |
| soren | Where do I click? :) | 21:05 |
| soren | Ah :) | 21:05 |
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| ttx | Next topic... | 21:05 |
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| ttx | #topic Cactus Release status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cactus Release status" | 21:05 | |
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| ttx | We have 8 "High" bugs for Nova, 1 for Glance and 1 for Swift | 21:06 |
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| ttx | We are still finding rather high-impact bugs every day, so I fear Cactus is still not the "highly stable" release we hoped for... | 21:06 |
| ttx | But probably the best we can do until we get stronger automated smoketests on commits | 21:06 |
| ttx | Thoughts on how stable Nova/Glance are ? | 21:06 |
| blamar__ | Unknown due to lack of sufficient testing? | 21:07 |
| jaypipes | ttx: Glance is more stable now that functional tests are run on each commit and migrations are actually being tested properly. At least, that's my impression ;) | 21:07 |
| ttx | jaypipes: we are still bitten by some bugs like bug 747855 which I find surprising | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 747855 in nova "Incoherent use of is_public creates havoc when using euca-describe-images" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747855 | 21:08 |
| jaypipes | ttx: not a Glance bug. | 21:08 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: oh, sure, was meant as an example of "high impact bugs we still find" | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | ttx: it's a Nova bug due to the image service abstraction translation of keys going to and from Glance or any other image service. | 21:09 |
| ttx | anyway, we'll make it as stable as we can :) | 21:10 |
| * jaypipes was under the impression we would get Nova smoketests automated through Hudson for Cactus? | 21:10 | |
| ttx | jaypipes: If we get them, we get them too late. | 21:10 |
| westmaas | I think Vek has some tests in a branch, not sure if they are ready to go. | 21:11 |
| Vek | I do indeed have some tests in a branch; been working on them with a local QA guy. | 21:11 |
| ttx | We have high hopes for Diablo, as we'll get a QA coordinator soon | 21:11 |
| ttx | Recent stats on the Nova stabilization effort: | 21:12 |
| Vek | they focus on the openstack API, v1.0 | 21:12 |
| soren | What is a "Vek"? | 21:12 |
| soren | Oh, it's a person! | 21:12 |
| soren | Hi! | 21:12 |
| * Vek is a Vek | 21:12 | |
| westmaas | haha | 21:12 |
| * glenc is not a Vek | 21:12 | |
| ttx | Last week we had 65 bugs opened and 27 fixes committed | 21:12 |
| ttx | This week we had 32 bugs opened and 44 fixes committed | 21:12 |
| * Vek is very glad glenc is not a Vek | 21:13 | |
| cynb | one Vek is enough | 21:13 |
| ttx | Looks like we would have needed 2 more weeks of bugfixing and two less weeks of feature development... but that would suppose everyone participates to bugfixing, which is not the case anyway. | 21:13 |
| * ttx stops his late rant and switches to next subject | 21:14 | |
| ttx | #topic Welcome to our Diablo PTLs | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome to our Diablo PTLs" | 21:14 | |
| ttx | Congrats to vishy, jaypipes and notmyname for their election as PTL ! | 21:14 |
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| ttx | I started annoying them to get the design summit process finalized... | 21:14 |
| vishy | \O/ | 21:14 |
| vishy | ^ note the big head | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot` | vishy: Error: "note" is not a valid command. | 21:14 |
| johnpur | thanks ttx for jumping on this! | 21:15 |
| ttx | Looks like we are in agreement that the process at http://wiki.openstack.org/Summit will be used for this summit, so keep on filing sessions | 21:15 |
| westmaas | is there a deadline for filing sessions? Still looking, but haven't seen it yet. | 21:16 |
| ttx | westmaas: no deadline... but might be a good idea to have one, actually | 21:17 |
| spectorclan | ttx: I will have room names and sizes by day for you tomorrow after we finalize in the morning my time | 21:17 |
| ttx | westmaas: usually people come up with new ideas the day the summit starts | 21:17 |
| ttx | spectorclan: cool, that's what I need right now | 21:17 |
| ttx | spectorclan: any way we could stay in the same rooms for the 3 days ? | 21:17 |
| spectorclan | yes, that is what we are trying to do. I see no reason why we can;t | 21:18 |
| ttx | spectorclan: ok, cool | 21:18 |
| ttx | ok, moving on to the next topic | 21:18 |
| sandywalsh | ttx, is it possible to point an existing BP at summit for inclusion? Or do they need to be new bp's? | 21:18 |
| ttx | sandywalsh: it is possible. Just "propose for sprint" ods-d | 21:18 |
| sandywalsh | thx | 21:19 |
| ttx | #topic Dedicated Doc Day | 21:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dedicated Doc Day" | 21:19 | |
| ttx | annegentle: Floor is yours... | 21:19 |
| annegentle | thanks ttx. | 21:19 |
| annegentle | Just wanted to give y'all the encouragement to drop-everything-and-doc this Wednesday. | 21:19 |
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| annegentle | I'll be on Skype at annegentle, IRC at the same, and either merging into the openstack-manuals project or poking core for merges for RST docs | 21:20 |
| annegentle | I'm happy to answer any questions about where a certain bit of doc should land, formats, templates, etc. | 21:20 |
| annegentle | Any questions? Comments? Doc to fling? | 21:21 |
| ttx | I'll definitely give some wiki pages a lifting | 21:22 |
| soren | is there a todo list? | 21:22 |
| soren | Or should we just go mad on anything and everything? | 21:22 |
| annegentle | soren: http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation/ToDo <--- great starting point | 21:23 |
| annegentle | priorities for this release were docstrings and reference info (flags for example) | 21:23 |
| annegentle | and API documentation | 21:23 |
| annegentle | I'd also appreciate reviews of the revisions on docs.openstack.org - I plan to have a new top-level page pointing to both Bexar and trunk/Cactus docs by tomorrow. | 21:24 |
| annegentle | so it can also be drop-everything-and-review-doc day if you wish | 21:24 |
| sandywalsh | annegentle, it was a good tip that you can do RST for the wiki | 21:24 |
| annegentle | sandywalsh: yes, it's a great way to write once pub twice | 21:25 |
| annegentle | that's it! Thanks all. | 21:26 |
| ttx | annegentle: I'll try to update http://wiki.openstack.org/FlagsGrouping as well | 21:26 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:26 | |
| ttx | anything, anyone ? | 21:26 |
| spectorclan | Is everyone registered for Summit? | 21:27 |
| ttx | Any issue I should know about, 9 days before Cactus release ? | 21:27 |
| spectorclan | We updated the max from 350 to 390 today so I have more slots | 21:27 |
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| ttx | spectorclan: One of the issues with the way we handled registration is that we have no clue how many people are attending conference, and how many stay for design summit. | 21:28 |
| westmaas | ttx: where is that review priority page again? | 21:28 |
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| soren | westmaas: http://wiki.openstack.org/reviewslist | 21:28 |
| spectorclan | I have that data and can send it to you shortly, just need to run the report for you | 21:28 |
| soren | westmaas: Err... No. | 21:28 |
| ttx | westmaas: what soren said | 21:28 |
| soren | westmaas: http://wiki.openstack.org/reviewslist/ | 21:28 |
| soren | There. | 21:28 |
| soren | (now with a slash at the end) | 21:28 |
| vishy | we have over 350 registered? | 21:29 |
| spectorclan | vishy: we have more like 400+ | 21:30 |
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| spectorclan | big waiting list | 21:30 |
| ttx | vishy: should be fun to try to have a productive technical discussion with ~200 people in the room | 21:30 |
| jaypipes | ttx: will be fun with even 20 people in the room. | 21:30 |
| ttx | jaypipes: ;) | 21:30 |
| spectorclan | vishy: i expect most will be for conference and not deisign summit | 21:31 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I could think of one fun discussion involving just 2 people. | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | heh | 21:31 |
| masumotok_ | Can we see the list of registered bp for diablo summit? the result of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/ods-d/+addspec is same as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/diablo? | 21:33 |
| ttx | masumotok_: we still have to review the current proposals and accept them | 21:33 |
| ttx | masumotok_: we = PTLs (+ me on the generic release discussions) | 21:33 |
| masumotok_ | so few days laster, everyone can check! :) | 21:34 |
| eday | ttx, jaypipes: I think we shold designate one room those types of discussio for entertainment purposes :) | 21:34 |
| ttx | masumotok_: some of them appear on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/ods-d already | 21:34 |
| ttx | eday: with a ring and giant gloves, like justinsb suggested | 21:34 |
| masumotok_ | tttx: good list, thanks! | 21:35 |
| eday | ttx: totally, how many OSS projects say they've made decisions based on hand-to-hand combat? | 21:35 |
| ttx | eday: I was kinda expecting you and soren end up in the mud over eventlet vs. twisted | 21:36 |
| ttx | eday: I was disappointed. | 21:36 |
| Vek | heh. | 21:36 |
| annegentle | whiffle bats? Yes I watch Attack of the Show. | 21:36 |
| dragondm | I can think of a few linux kernel process scheduler discussions that probably involved blood ... | 21:36 |
| eday | ttx: I'm a pacifist | 21:36 |
| ttx | eday: your calm is so disarming. | 21:36 |
| ttx | ok, let's wrap up | 21:37 |
| ttx | and get some more bugs fixed | 21:38 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 21:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 21:38:10 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-05-21.01.html | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-05-21.01.txt | 21:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-05-21.01.log.html | 21:38 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 21:38 |
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