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| zns | #startmeeting Keystone Team Meeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 18:01:02 2012 UTC. The chair is zns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Keystone Team Meeting)" | 18:01 | |
| zns | Hi - who's here for Keystone? | 18:01 |
| dolphm | o/ | 18:01 |
| zns | Hi Dolph! | 18:01 |
| dolphm | hola | 18:01 |
| zns | Let's wait till 12:05, if nobody joins we'll close the meeting. | 18:02 |
| zns | How's it going? | 18:02 |
| dolphm | trying to get my head around ksl | 18:03 |
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| zns | I've seen a lot of activity on it. And been looking at the code myself, but have not had much time the last couple of weeks. I'll be able to spend some time on it later this week (and in fact plan to do some Active Directory backend work if I can figure it out). | 18:05 |
| zns | Do you feel we'll be able to get the merge done by E4? | 18:05 |
| dolphm | i don't have enough experience with it yet to say, but the list of gaps is shrinking pretty quick | 18:06 |
| zns | cool. | 18:06 |
| zns | OK. Past 12:05. I'm closing the meeting. I'll come by in a bit to chat and see how I can help with KSL... | 18:06 |
| zns | #endmeeting | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 18:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 18:06:47 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-18.01.html | 18:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-18.01.txt | 18:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-18.01.log.html | 18:06 |
| heckj | o/ | 18:07 |
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| zns | heckj: hi - we closed the meeting since it was dolphm and I only. | 18:08 |
| zns | but… I'm here. | 18:08 |
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| zns | I see a lot of activity on ksl. I was saying I have not been available the past week but intend to do some work on it this week. How could I best help? Anything in particular or just pick something and code it? | 18:09 |
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| zns | I also notice you guys are working off of github still, not gerrit. Is that right? | 18:09 |
| heckj | actually, that changed last night - we got the unit tests all passing on redux, so we're over using gerrit against "redux" now | 18:10 |
| zns | cool. | 18:10 |
| heckj | I went through the hitlist of gaps and made them into bugs (tagged "redux") to track it | 18:10 |
| heckj | And we're tracking general work on etherpad.openstack.org/ksl (bug links in there too) | 18:11 |
| zns | saw that. so nothing left to track from etherpad? | 18:11 |
| heckj | We're still tracking things that should ultimately go into blueprints on the Etherpad, and general status of what folks are working on | 18:11 |
| heckj | there's plenty of low hanging fruit - including some documentation tasks, testing, and a few bugs to smooth with the current keystone command line interface (keystone-manage) | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | o/ BTW | 18:14 |
| ayoung | heckj, zns I've been beating on the LDAP code for the past week in "Redux" | 18:15 |
| heckj | ayoung - hop on the http://etherpad.openstack.org/ksl page and mark it down (near the bottom) | 18:16 |
| heckj | ayoung - I think your drive for an LDAP back-end is a little different from the setup that I made a bug for (https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/928065) - which is specifically expecting to proxy to AD and not have permissions to change passwords or ability to update the LDAP schema | 18:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 928065 in keystone "implement SQL+LDAP backend for Identity" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:17 |
| ayoung | heckj, I was going based on the Feature that is already implemented in Keystone. | 18:18 |
| ayoung | Obviosuly, someone in the community felt strongly enough about LDAP support that they wrote it the first time around | 18:18 |
| ayoung | It really isn't about the updates so much as it is about getting the Schema and the data model correct | 18:19 |
| heckj | ayoung: Not saying it's bad, just not what I heard as a specific use case. Were you using that feature the way it was set up? We can easily make a bug to track your work and get it into there - another LDAP implementation against OpenLDAP isn't a bad thing at all! | 18:19 |
| ayoung | heckj, as I said before, if we just want to proxy Auth, the PAM approach is better. | 18:20 |
| ayoung | fully ACKing all of the objections and so forth around PAM | 18:21 |
| heckj | ayoung: even if nobody else has the need that I outlined in the bug, I do - but that doesn't obviate other needs. Let's mark up a bug around your work and list it in the hitlist on the etherpad | 18:23 |
| ayoung | heckj, OK | 18:24 |
| heckj | For the record, I'm using "bugs" a bit inappropriately - much of this should really be in blueprints, but I didn't see a way to "tag" a blueprint to identify it as a part of the redux effort - so I just made everything into bugs for now | 18:25 |
| ayoung | heckj, thing is, that feature is already implemented in Keystone Heavy. Are we 100% moving to KSL prior to Essex launch? | 18:25 |
| heckj | ayoung: I sure want to | 18:25 |
| ayoung | heckj, why? | 18:26 |
| ayoung | I mean, I don't have a dog in this race...just heard a lot of "we really need to" | 18:26 |
| ayoung | Just seems like a risky call this close to launch, and I don't have a firm grasp of the benefits. | 18:27 |
| heckj | ayoung: because I view the project as significantly simpler and easier to debug and work with in a deployment context. I'm not screaming "need", but I would prefer to significantly simplified and consistent internal interfaces | 18:27 |
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| ayoung | heckj, since I only really now know the Backend code, I can't speak to that. I do know that the backend seems to be be pretty much defined by SQL Alchemy now, which I find a little surprising | 18:29 |
| ayoung | Its what is making the LDAP code so tricky, there is no place where the model is defined in non-SQL terms. | 18:29 |
| heckj | ayoung: what's surprising about it? It's the commonly used mechanism in the rest of OpenStack | 18:29 |
| ayoung | heckj, what is surprising is that SQL is not how the world tends to view Identity Management. | 18:30 |
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| ayoung | It is one, and I would say not even the dominant technolog used there. | 18:30 |
| heckj | ayoung: ah, yeah. Most of the environments I'm in already have an external system that manages identity | 18:31 |
| zns | heckj: I have come across a few people using the existing LDAP code against LDAP as it is, so my guess is we should port that. Sounds like that's what ayoung is doing... | 18:31 |
| ayoung | SInce the Identity code is written to be pluggable, I'd at least say that the domain model should be non-technology specific. | 18:31 |
| heckj | ayound: there is a need for a simple testing/prototype setup, but the system will ideally shim back to other systems (over which we have little control by my experience), not store it locally. | 18:31 |
| ayoung | heckj, yes and no. The size of an Openstack deployment likely dictates that we are going to want to push data into the IDentity store, LDAP or otherwise | 18:32 |
| heckj | zns: yeap, which is why I suggested we mark it up as a bug and get it on the hit list on etherpad/KSL | 18:32 |
| heckj | ayoung: a very valid use case | 18:34 |
| zns | we prototyped Keystone with SQL ALchemy when we started the project and that model stuck around (warts and all). yoriksar did the LDAP implementation using the model that was there. KSL should help cleanly decouple us form sql alchemy... | 18:35 |
| zns | ayoung: yes, size often dictates. But not all large deployments I am familiar with use LDAP. Some use SQL, some even X500! | 18:36 |
| ayoung | heckj, so what I'd like to see laid out is this: The domain model for IdM in plain Python. The Default Schema for SQL and LDAP checked in as files readable by people with experience in those technologies, and a clean way to map between them | 18:36 |
| ayoung | zns, right. And even SQL implementations are likely to stray from the schema we've coded inthe SQL Alchemy code | 18:36 |
| ayoung | point is, for a major deployment, we should expect the implementor to have to write binding code for their IdM system | 18:37 |
| zns | I know dolphm wrote some doc pages for the schema (but I can't find them…) | 18:38 |
| heckj | ayoung: that seems quite reasonable. For the basic implementation that uses some SQL, you get a significant benefit from having a schema that automatically upgrades on installation and update. You miss that with DDL files, but that schema should definitely be clearly laid out. | 18:38 |
| ayoung | heckj, can SQL Alchemy generate those from the code? | 18:38 |
| heckj | ayoung: I believe so, yes - although I'm no SQLAlchemy expert | 18:39 |
| ayoung | I guess we can always reverse engineer the sqlite db file and check those in | 18:39 |
| zns | Found it: http://keystone.openstack.org/backends.html | 18:39 |
| ayoung | heckj, zns, what would the most "pythonic" way to represent that? | 18:42 |
| ayoung | We really want is them to be "the super set of keys that the dictionary may contain" | 18:43 |
| ayoung | The KSL code curently does it like this | 18:43 |
| ayoung | class User(sql.ModelBase, sql.DictBase): | 18:43 |
| ayoung | __tablename__ = 'user' | 18:43 |
| ayoung | id = sql.Column(sql.String(64), primary_key=True) | 18:43 |
| ayoung | name = sql.Column(sql.String(64), unique=True | 18:43 |
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| ayoung | which gets passed to sqlalchemy.ext.declarative.declarative_base() | 18:44 |
| ayoung | I'd really rather not refactor the SQL Alchemy code in order to get the LDAP code in. | 18:45 |
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| mtaylor | hey all - who wants to talk about CI | 19:04 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 19:04:16 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:04 |
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| mtaylor | wow. yeah. it's exciting | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | well - just in case anyone who isn't zul is watching ... | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | we've got paste and planet under control and are working on meetbot from an infrastructure side | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | we've got several projects doing 2.6 and 2.7 testing via tox and by the end of this week we should have that rolled out to everyone (other than nova and swift) | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | which also means all of those build slaves will be oneiric finally (took way too long) | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | we have someone starting work on finishing the jclouds plugin for jenkins finally | 19:11 |
| mtaylor | and ksl is in gerrit and chugging along | 19:11 |
| mtaylor | I think that's about status on stuff from our end | 19:11 |
| mtaylor | next week jeblair, LinuxJedi and I will be meeting in Boston | 19:12 |
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| mtaylor | and I'm hoping to get nova and swift on the multi-python testing train as well | 19:13 |
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| deshantm | mtaylor: did you or can you post your slides for your and jeblair's Linux AU conf talk? | 19:20 |
| soren | mtaylor: What's blocking that? | 19:21 |
| heckj | oal | 19:21 |
| heckj | (er, ola) | 19:21 |
| mtaylor | deshantm: they are already online | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | deshantm: https://github.com/openstack-ci/publications/tree/master/lca | 19:22 |
| deshantm | mtaylor: thanks! | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | soren: last time I tried running nova tests from within tox something went horribly wrong - I haven't tried again recently ... I think it might have been m2crypto related, which has obviously been sorted now | 19:23 |
| mtaylor | morning heckj ! | 19:23 |
| soren | mtaylor: Oh, has it? | 19:23 |
| soren | mtaylor: It was busted for me last week. | 19:23 |
| mtaylor | soren: patch just went in I believe | 19:23 |
| soren | So where are we getting m2crypto from now? | 19:24 |
| soren | Oh... You mean we finished the m2cryptosectomy? | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | we're not | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | yeah | 19:24 |
| soren | Alright. | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | I believe, I haven't verified | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | but I saw an m2cryptosectomy patch go through | 19:24 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: should we remove CI from that bug? | 19:31 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: likely | 19:33 |
| LinuxJedi | ok | 19:33 |
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| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: I say that - we should verify that if m2crypto is no longer needed that the crap in instal_venv which sudo apt-get installs it is also removed | 19:36 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: ack | 19:37 |
| mtaylor | ok. it is | 19:40 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: #endmeeting? | 19:51 |
| * heckj nods | 19:51 | |
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| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 19:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 19:55:12 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-19.04.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-19.04.txt | 19:55 |
| mtaylor | thanks all | 19:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-19.04.log.html | 19:55 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: so, in the list of meetbot feature requests ... | 19:55 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: those links should automatically be added to an index somewhere | 19:55 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: you should reconsider the time of this meeting to try to get more people :) | 19:57 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I would totally reconsider the time of this meeting | 19:58 |
| mtaylor | we need folks in pacific time and folks in europe | 19:58 |
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| ttx | I can do 1600 UTC on Mondays or Fridays... Maybe 1630 if the meeting is not too long. | 19:59 |
| ttx | Pacific time and folks in Europe is notoriously difficult. | 19:59 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: ok, I really need to gather these on LP :) | 19:59 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: yeah. hehe | 20:00 |
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| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: maybe make a meetbot bug tag as well | 20:00 |
| mtaylor | ttx: the meeting often takes the full hour | 20:00 |
| mtaylor | ttx: 1400 is 5 hours earlier than its current time ... that's 6am us west coast | 20:01 |
| mtaylor | damn | 20:01 |
| mtaylor | I will literally never make that meeting | 20:01 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: bug tag ++ | 20:01 |
| ttx | Who said 1400? | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | hah. I have no idea | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | 8am pacific. I can do 8am I think ... lemme check conflicts | 20:03 |
| heckj | oh… god… 8am? | 20:03 |
| mtaylor | will we lose heckj? | 20:03 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: bug added, meetbot tag added, all assigned to me | 20:03 |
| mtaylor | woot | 20:03 |
| heckj | that'll be darned tough - I'm usually in transit (just about done) at that time. I'll likely be regularly late | 20:03 |
| ttx | heckj: how about 1630 ? That would make it 08:30am. | 20:04 |
| heckj | I'm usually in the office by then, so that would work | 20:04 |
| ttx | I can probably make it too, if on Mondays. | 20:04 |
| LinuxJedi | same here if Mondays | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | well, I have meeting then on mondays - I could see if we could move it | 20:05 |
| ttx | At least as long as we are not in summer time | 20:05 |
| mtaylor | summer is coming | 20:05 |
| LinuxJedi | ah yes, the US has an offset summer time | 20:05 |
| heckj | we totally fucked with anything like "normal" time. | 20:05 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: let me ping purrier and jaypipes and see if we can move our monday meeting | 20:07 |
| ttx | mtaylor: no urgency. | 20:08 |
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| termie | HEYOOO | 20:54 |
| heckj | ola | 20:54 |
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| soren | ttx: .. | 21:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:01 |
| zns | hola | 21:01 |
| soren | \o_ | 21:01 |
| ttx | oops. Was contemplating archive lag. | 21:01 |
| ttx | then I entered a meditative state. | 21:01 |
| ttx | notmyname, vishy, devcamcar: around ? | 21:01 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:01 |
| vishy | soren: you need pom-poms do do that move | 21:01 |
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| ttx | OK, let's get started, notmyname and devcamcar will probably catch up | 21:02 |
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| soren | vishy: Nah, it's me falling on an icy sidewalk. | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 21:03:00 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:03 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #topic Actions from last week | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last week" | 21:03 | |
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| ttx | * jaypipes to assign or defer glance-bittorrent-delivery | 21:04 |
| ttx | Looks like that was done | 21:04 |
| ttx | actually, everything was done, so let's talk about something else | 21:05 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:05 |
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| ttx | zns: o/ | 21:05 |
| termie | \o | 21:05 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:05 |
| zns | ttx: hi. termie also here? | 21:05 |
| zns | yes. | 21:05 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:05 |
| termie | we've got the redux branches for devstack and keystone green in gerrit | 21:05 |
| ttx | do we have a rough ETA for the merge ? | 21:06 |
| termie | ready to merge once we agree upon what we consider "blockers" for merge | 21:06 |
| ttx | Looking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=redux | 21:06 |
| ttx | termie: What needs to go in *before* we can merge ? | 21:06 |
| termie | right now i think the "ksl" team have a different opinion on that than zns | 21:06 |
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| heckj | I've got the total list of discussed elements in there, but there's not yet agreement on what's a blocker | 21:06 |
| heckj | termie: ++ | 21:06 |
| termie | so we're planning on finishing that discussion with zns today, assuming he has time | 21:06 |
| zns | termie: I do. I didn't know we had a disconnect on that. I'm available to talk through that. | 21:07 |
| ttx | How are you marking the blockers ? E4 targeting ? Or Critical/High "redux-tagged" ? | 21:07 |
| heckj | ttx: Critical & tagged with redux | 21:07 |
| ttx | heckj: ok, works for me. | 21:07 |
| termie | heckj: made a bunch of launchpad bugs and uglied up our etherpad :p | 21:07 |
| heckj | (the current bug list may need to be updated after the conversation this afternoon) | 21:07 |
| ttx | I'd really prefer to see the redux branch merged ASAP, ideally before next week... | 21:08 |
| ttx | ...so that the buglist can be clearly reviewed to only include issues still affecting ksl | 21:08 |
| termie | me also | 21:08 |
| heckj | +100 | 21:08 |
| termie | i don't think most of these things are actually blockers, so assuming we can convince zns i think we should be on track | 21:08 |
| termie | and we can be _very_ persuasive | 21:09 |
| * termie winks | 21:09 | |
| ttx | #action zns, heckj and termie to define list of blockers before redux merging | 21:09 |
| ttx | zns: who is working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-test-refactor ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | (if it still makes sense) | 21:09 |
| zns | ttx: I don't think anyone is. Doesn't make sense if we're merging soon... | 21:10 |
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| heckj | zns: retarget or kill? | 21:10 |
| zns | kill | 21:10 |
| ttx | zns: OK, we should probably remove it from targets | 21:10 |
| * heckj (does that) | 21:10 | |
| ttx | ack | 21:10 |
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| ttx | Anything else on Keystone ? | 21:10 |
| termie | keystone is dead, long live keystone! | 21:11 |
| zns | Nothing else :-) | 21:11 |
| ttx | notmyname: is the fire drill over ? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | almost | 21:11 |
| notmyname | not yet | 21:11 |
| ttx | we can do Glance first. | 21:11 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:11 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: yo | 21:12 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:12 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: around ? | 21:13 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: yup | 21:14 |
| ttx | About https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/progressbar-upload-image | 21:14 |
| ttx | jaypipes: the series goal is not set to accepted -- shall I confirm it ? | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yes, ty | 21:14 |
| ttx | jaypipes: Your medium/low E4-targeted bugs list looks under control | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | ttx: ya, nothing too exciting. | 21:15 |
| ttx | Are you reasonably happy with the current state of Glance ? Or do you think the bug list doesn't really reflect reality ? | 21:15 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: no, I'm happy with it. | 21:15 |
| ttx | jaypipes: Anything else ? | 21:15 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: nope | 21:16 |
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| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:16 |
| ttx | notmyname: ready ? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:18 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:18 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.4.6 | 21:18 |
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| ttx | Thanks for filling that up. | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | np | 21:18 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else you still wait on that would not be listed ? | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | no, I'm not aware of any other new features (ie blueprints) that should get added | 21:19 |
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| ttx | notmyname: When it's ready, push the changelog, then the new version number to master... I'll cut the milestone-proposed branch from the changelog commit. | 21:19 |
| ttx | notmyname: does that sound like a plan ? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | will do. the plan is to do that tomorrow | 21:20 |
| ttx | great | 21:20 |
| notmyname | then have it ready by EOD friday | 21:20 |
| ttx | notmyname: hmm, that's your EOD, right | 21:20 |
| notmyname | yes. I'll let you know (email?) when we're ok with it | 21:21 |
| ttx | I might need to find someone to push it, I'll be busy packing and traveling to my vacation spot by EOD friday | 21:21 |
| ttx | but that should work. | 21:21 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | I'll be in santa clara next week at cloud connect. I'm happy to talk to anyone about swift while I'm there | 21:22 |
| notmyname | that's all | 21:22 |
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| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:22 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:23 |
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| ttx | vishy: hey | 21:23 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:23 |
| ttx | Looks like more FFes have been accepted ? | 21:23 |
| vishy | hi | 21:23 |
| ttx | and you play the jaypipes and update the list at the last minute. | 21:24 |
| vishy | ttx: I'm not totally sure how to manage covering stuff that is cleanup related | 21:24 |
| vishy | ttx: sorry :) | 21:24 |
| vishy | jaypipes has been coaching me | 21:24 |
| ttx | I think it's good to track cleanups as blueprints as well. Leaves a good trace on the milestone page | 21:24 |
| ttx | most of those last features added are harmless, I suppose... | 21:25 |
| vishy | ttx: for example https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/keystone-export-rewrite | 21:25 |
| ttx | ... but remember the idea of feature freeze is to focus on testing and bugs, not on adding as many harmless features as we can :) | 21:25 |
| vishy | ttx: agreed | 21:25 |
| ttx | vishy: sounds good to me | 21:26 |
| vishy | ttx: We have three FFes that haven't submitted code yet | 21:26 |
| ttx | so this is blocked by KSL merge ? | 21:26 |
| ttx | (the two blocked ones) | 21:26 |
| vishy | ttx: yes, waiting on the merge | 21:26 |
| vishy | ttx: the second one may have to wait for folsom | 21:26 |
| vishy | ttx: depending on how the migration script is written | 21:27 |
| ttx | what you need from the merge is already in the redux branch ? | 21:27 |
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| vishy | ttx: true, so perhaps blocked isn't the best description | 21:27 |
| vishy | ttx: more like waiting | 21:27 |
| ttx | vishy: I can live with "Blocked" | 21:27 |
| vishy | ttx: the people doing the work are focusing on the ksl merge first | 21:27 |
| ttx | fast-cloning-for-xenserver, heterogeneous-tilera-architecture-support look "almost in" | 21:27 |
| ttx | libvirt-resize and remove-ajaxterm are proposed, need review | 21:28 |
| vishy | all 4 of those are really close | 21:28 |
| vishy | i expect them all in by tomorrow | 21:28 |
| ttx | zeromq-rpc-driver, nexenta-volume-driver, netapp-volume-driver have no code proposed yet | 21:28 |
| ttx | Do we have an ETA for them ? | 21:28 |
| vishy | sounds like we will se a prop for zeromq by tomorrowish | 21:28 |
| ewindisch | ttx: I just completed today | 21:28 |
| vishy | netapp had a prop in but it was missing code, so I assume next day or two there as well | 21:28 |
| vishy | nexenta I have no idea | 21:28 |
| ttx | OK, we should reach to them | 21:29 |
| vishy | i will send an email asking for status | 21:29 |
| ttx | #action vishy to reach to Oleg nexenta-volume-driver ETA | 21:30 |
| ttx | I think we should remove https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/consolidate-testing-infrastructure since there is no visible progress on it. | 21:30 |
| vishy | the last one, which I marked deferred, was the one from comstud | 21:30 |
| vishy | although, based on the last email, I'd like to at least see the code before we decide yes or no on that one | 21:30 |
| ttx | ogelbukh: ETA on nexenta-volume-driver ? | 21:30 |
| ogelbukh | going to get it to review by friday | 21:31 |
| ttx | oubiwann: OK to defer consolidate-testing-infrastructure ? | 21:31 |
| ttx | ogelbukh: sounds good | 21:31 |
| ttx | vishy: sounds like we should defer https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/openstack-api-ssl too. Haven't seen much activity there | 21:32 |
| vishy | ttx: yeah | 21:32 |
| vishy | ttx: although man, it seems like that is kinda vital for some people | 21:32 |
| vishy | ttx: so I don't know why we haven't seen a prop. I guess there is always the nginx in front route | 21:32 |
| ttx | Let's defer both, and see if that triggers something | 21:33 |
| vishy | ttx: should i retarget comstud's blueprint to e-4? | 21:33 |
| ttx | vishy: yes, I prefer to have it in scope rather than under the radar line | 21:33 |
| ttx | Maybe marked Blocked until we know if that will be accepted (with a note on the whiteboard saying why it's blocked) | 21:34 |
| ttx | What's the state of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-sweep ? | 21:34 |
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| vishy | done | 21:34 |
| vishy | haven't heard anything on that one | 21:35 |
| vishy | my comment in the whiteboard still applies | 21:35 |
| vishy | as a helper script e-4 is fine, but anything more than that is definitely Folsom | 21:36 |
| vishy | lets leave it until friday, and I will defer it if we don't hear anything | 21:36 |
| ttx | ok | 21:36 |
| ttx | vishy: Should I mark scaling-zones blocked like proposed above ? | 21:36 |
| vishy | already did it | 21:37 |
| ttx | refresh fail | 21:37 |
| ttx | vishy: status on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/optional-host-and-admin-information ? Not started ? | 21:37 |
| vishy | ttx: anthony is working on that. Discovered that it really hard for admins via dashboard because ther is no way to find out where an instance is running | 21:38 |
| vishy | I think it is Not Started right now, but it is a pretty small change. | 21:38 |
| ttx | ack | 21:38 |
| ttx | All in all it doesn't look too bad -- critical path goes through redux branch merge, so we need that in ASAP. | 21:39 |
| vishy | ttx: agreed. Our whole team is focusing on that for the next 3 days | 21:39 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:39 |
| vishy | ttx: I will be sending out an email update soon | 21:39 |
| vishy | ttx: no other notes for the meeting | 21:39 |
| ttx | Nova subteam leads: anything on your side ? | 21:40 |
| ttx | Anyone: Questions on Nova ? | 21:40 |
| deshantm | Is xenserver live migration (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-live-migration) targeted for essex? I know it depends on host aggregates | 21:40 |
| ttx | deshantm: no it's not | 21:40 |
| ttx | definitely not something I'd add during a feature-frozen period. | 21:41 |
| vishy | deshantm: definitely not essx | 21:41 |
| vishy | I mean it would be cool, it is just pushing it | 21:41 |
| vishy | f1 i think | 21:41 |
| ttx | devcamcar: around ? | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | o/ | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:42 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:42 |
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| ttx | Looking good so far ? | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | we've been churning through buts quickly | 21:43 |
| ttx | buts ? | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | most of the blue prints are very small in scope | 21:43 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Do you have an ETA for ec2-credentials-download and improve-visual-design ? | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | some of the ux table changes may not land | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | ec2 credentials is in review i believe | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | improve visual design will be closed soon | 21:43 |
| ttx | ok, so before mid-E4 | 21:44 |
| ohnoimdead | table changes are done afaik | 21:44 |
| ttx | sounds good. | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | ohnoimdead: things like https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/884473 | 21:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 884473 in horizon "UX Improvements: Overall Table Changes - Add table menu to add/remove columns" [High,Confirmed] | 21:44 |
| ttx | Your list of 50+ open E4-targeted bugs is a bit scary. | 21:44 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Do you think you can fix all of them before the end of the month ? | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | we've been averaging 40-50 fixes per milestone | 21:45 |
| devcamcar | seems doable | 21:45 |
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| devcamcar | i do need to go back over the remaining items and ensure priority is still accurate | 21:45 |
| ttx | ok | 21:45 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Anything else ? | 21:45 |
| devcamcar | goal will be for at least everything medium or higher to land | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | i see a few mediums that can be lowered | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | i'll review with the gang | 21:46 |
| ohnoimdead | devcamcar: how do you feel about punting the swift ui improvements out of e4? | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | would like to see it land but we will do what must be done | 21:47 |
| ttx | Questions for Horizon ? | 21:47 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:48 |
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| ttx | danwent, troytoman: yo | 21:48 |
| troytoman | o/ | 21:48 |
| danwent | hi | 21:48 |
| danwent | troy, you go first :) | 21:48 |
| troytoman | with melange we are just focused on bug fixing and finalizing a 1.0 api | 21:48 |
| troytoman | also working with dan went to improve quantum manager test coverage, etc | 21:49 |
| ttx | troytoman: do you plan to file for Core inclusion ? | 21:49 |
| troytoman | under discussion. know we need to make a decision soon | 21:49 |
| ttx | yes, before the end of the month in all cases. | 21:49 |
| troytoman | understood | 21:49 |
| ttx | danwent: what news ? | 21:50 |
| danwent | https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:50 |
| danwent | we're making a big push around testing. | 21:50 |
| danwent | trying to get some system/integration tests into devstack repo (debo is leading this) | 21:50 |
| danwent | and drastically improving coverage in Quantum Manager code in nvoa | 21:51 |
| danwent | nova | 21:51 |
| danwent | also will be welcoming a few new plugins to the server codebase. | 21:51 |
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| ttx | danwent: I kinda expected you'd file for Core this week ? | 21:51 |
| danwent | working with horizon team to try and clean things up for essex | 21:51 |
| danwent | I was planning on next tuesday | 21:51 |
| danwent | is there a PPB meeting? | 21:51 |
| ttx | Waiting for me to be in vacation, I see | 21:51 |
| ttx | There is a PPB meeting if there is something to discuss. | 21:52 |
| danwent | ah, sorry. can wait another week if you prefer. | 21:52 |
| danwent | but yes, we're planning on applying for inclusion in core. Plan was to do it next week, but I'm flexible. ping me if you have suggestions. | 21:52 |
| ttx | can't hurt to propose early, in case the board asks for some time to review | 21:52 |
| danwent | exactly my thinking | 21:52 |
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| ttx | and I can give my vote by email if needed. | 21:53 |
| danwent | great, thanks (i hope) :) | 21:53 |
| ttx | danwent: anything else ? | 21:53 |
| danwent | that's really all from my end. | 21:53 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? annegentle, mtaylor ? | 21:53 |
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| ttx | hmm, guess not | 21:56 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:56 |
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| ttx | Note that I won't be here next week, so I will ask another release team member to run the show | 21:57 |
| ttx | OpenStack@FOSDEM went well, I think, if you exclude the cold. | 21:57 |
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| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:58 |
| deshantm | ttx: were any slides or videos related to openstack posted anywhere? | 21:58 |
| deshantm | (for fosem) | 21:58 |
| ttx | deshantm: my presentation is at http://ubuntuone.com/7gWt56Ue24mpkgIRJbO4gT | 21:59 |
| annegentle | here, late :) We're working on releasing api.openstack.org, hopefully linking to The FreeCloud. | 21:59 |
| ttx | Will see if we can make presenters upload theirs to the devroom wiki | 21:59 |
| annegentle | The Free Cloud (freak loud!) should launch soon - hopefully next week. | 22:00 |
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| ttx | ok then. | 22:01 |
| ttx | Let's leave the room to netstackers. | 22:01 |
| annegentle | also look for a Foundation meet up at Cloud Connect - see http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation, Feb 15th at 4:30 | 22:01 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 22:01:47 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-21.03.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-21.03.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-21.03.log.html | 22:01 |
| ttx | oops | 22:01 |
| ttx | annegentle: cut you in the middle of your talk, sorry :) | 22:02 |
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| annegentle | ttx: no worries, that was the last "thing" | 22:02 |
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| annegentle | netstackers, take it away! | 22:02 |
| danwent | thanks! | 22:02 |
| danwent | hey netstack team! | 22:02 |
| mestery | Hey folks! | 22:03 |
| davlap | o/ | 22:03 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 22:03 |
| danwent | tough crowd :P | 22:03 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 22:03:28 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:03 |
| danwent | #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:03 |
| salvorlando | hello netstackers! | 22:04 |
| danwent | #info just a reminding to everyone that feature freeze/branch point for E-4 will be one week earlier than normal. Feb 21st. | 22:04 |
| danwent | we need to avoid last minute merges that take our time away from testing. | 22:04 |
| danwent | #info: curent items for E-4: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-4 | 22:05 |
| danwent | biggest thing that stands out is that v1.1 client is unassigned | 22:05 |
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| salvorlando | agreed | 22:05 |
| danwent | Salv, I know you mentioned that you might be able to do that, though at the cost of other API work. Is that still the case? | 22:06 |
| salvorlando | I'd be happy to take it, but I don't feel sure about ability of deliver... not a lot of spare dev cycles. | 22:06 |
| salvorlando | I have two outstanding work items on API. | 22:06 |
| danwent | salvorlando: can either of those items drop? | 22:06 |
| danwent | seems like having a client that can leverage 1.1 features is important. | 22:07 |
| salvorlando | maybe resource links...it does not appear to be a huge amount of requests | 22:07 |
| salvorlando | of request for it. | 22:07 |
| salvorlando | agreed. | 22:07 |
| salvorlando | I can definitely drop resource links (already dropped rate limiting) | 22:07 |
| danwent | yeah, I'm all for pruning to the most important stuff early | 22:07 |
| salvorlando | as concerns pagination for responses, I'd try to merge it. The code is already there, altough I need to rebase and repush as the review expired | 22:08 |
| danwent | yeah, i remember the code was really close. | 22:08 |
| salvorlando | we just decided to defer it to make reviews easier. | 22:08 |
| danwent | ah, ok. | 22:09 |
| danwent | so it sounds like i have a soft yes on the client work? | 22:09 |
| salvorlando | It is a soft yes... right :) | 22:09 |
| danwent | ok, thanks :) | 22:10 |
| salvorlando | will make it either a "hard yes" or a "no" in the next 36 hours... | 22:10 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. | 22:10 |
| danwent | debo-os update on merge of system test stuff into devstack? | 22:10 |
| danwent | do we know who to talk to in order to try and get it running automatically on builds? | 22:11 |
| danwent | carlp: do you still have that infrastructure available? | 22:11 |
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| danwent | hrmm… we'll try and come back to that topic when the owners aren't asleep :) | 22:12 |
| carlp | Yes | 22:12 |
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| danwent | ah, just in time | 22:12 |
| carlp | Sorry, got two things going at once :) | 22:12 |
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| carlp | Yes, the hardware is available and ready for use! | 22:12 |
| danwent | #action #debo-os contact #carlp with info on how to run quantum excercise.sh within devstack. | 22:13 |
| danwent | that would be really great to have that going and emailing us if things break | 22:13 |
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| carlp | yes, that was my plan | 22:13 |
| danwent | sweet. we should have enough to get the whole system up and running end-to-end | 22:13 |
| danwent | I have some additions to the excercise.sh script, but for now I'd just focus on getting the env setup with the initial version of the script. | 22:14 |
| danwent | anything else on system test? | 22:14 |
| danwent | Ok, next up in the linux bridge plugin, which is long overdue for merging. Salv and I have promised reviews today + tomorrow, so hopefully we can iterate quickly and have it in by end of week. | 22:15 |
| danwent | sumit, anything to add? | 22:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | great...thanks. | 22:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | no nothing to add | 22:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we did some testing | 22:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | edgar and shweta | 22:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so far so good | 22:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Shweta found another issue with creating networks for non-admin users | 22:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not linux bridge plugin specific | 22:16 |
| danwent | great. we'll have to figure out the questions of how to handle shared code, but I think merging it and getting it in for E-4 is the key thing to focus on. | 22:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can take that up later | 22:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, good point on the shared code | 22:16 |
| danwent | sumit: is this the email she sent out last night? | 22:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | saw the emails | 22:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, the one she sent yesterday night | 22:16 |
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| danwent | yeah, would be good to get an exact env. and set of commands to run. once a bug like that is reproducable, they are usually quite easy to fix. I saw a bug like that when working on the unit tests, but it was actually the result of a misconfig. Would be good to see how to repro. | 22:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok, will get back to you on that | 22:17 |
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| danwent | We also need to get reviews in on the Ryu plugin, as that too was deferred from E-3 | 22:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we just wanted to quickly check if you were also seeing it | 22:18 |
| danwent | Sumit: smart thing to do until we get better test coverage in Nova for Quantum Manager. | 22:18 |
| danwent | on that note: i sent an email about a patch to improve quantum manger test coverage. | 22:19 |
| danwent | here's the review: https://review.openstack.org/3858 | 22:19 |
| danwent | I'd encourage people to review it, and think about additional testing that could be added. | 22:19 |
| danwent | One huge gap is to improve the melange test coverage. | 22:19 |
| danwent | my patch does not address it. | 22:19 |
| danwent | (this is melange client code within Quantum Manager that calls melange, not the melange service itself) | 22:20 |
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| danwent | is debo-os here? | 22:20 |
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| danwent | #action #debo-os check with vishy to confirm that nova work on VPN means that there is a decent VPN + Quantum optioin for Essex | 22:21 |
| danwent | assuming that is the case, we'll defer further VPN parity work to Folsom (or a separate service… TBD) | 22:21 |
| danwent | anyone here working on the horizon + quantum stuff? | 22:22 |
| danwent | I saw that vishy fixed the vif API bug, which was the main thing breaking quantum + horizon. But we still need to shift horizon more to a quantum-manager style model, rather than a manual vif-plugging model. | 22:22 |
| danwent | #action #danwent poke ML to see if we need any BPs/bugs targeted for quantum + horizon work. | 22:23 |
| danwent | Last topic on my list is the authz middleware. I'm hoping someone from Nicira can take this one on in E-4, but its definitely at risk, so if its important to you, I'd speak up. | 22:23 |
| danwent | btw, got an email update from debo-os via phone | 22:24 |
| salvorlando | excuse? email update via phone?? | 22:25 |
| danwent | he's working on modularizing the excersie.sh code, so we can have multiple tests that have a shared "library" of quantum setup logic | 22:25 |
| danwent | yes, he says his phone IRC client isn't working. | 22:25 |
| danwent | we'll have to figure out an appropriate disciplinary action :) | 22:25 |
| salvorlando | :) | 22:25 |
| danwent | Ok, so E-4 is branching Feb 21st, don't forget. | 22:26 |
| * markvoelker votes that debo must bring us all donuts | 22:26 | |
| danwent | donuts via IRC?? delicious | 22:26 |
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| bhall | mmm.. donuts | 22:26 |
| danwent | and please take some time to contribute to one of the testing efforts, quantum-manager unit tests, quantum unit tests, or quantum + nova system/integration test. | 22:27 |
| danwent | as the system becomes more complex, it will be brittle is we don't have great test coverage, so we need to suck it up and write some tests :) | 22:27 |
| danwent | Ok, anything else specific to E-4? | 22:27 |
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| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:28 |
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| danwent | I have a couple things to mention | 22:28 |
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| danwent | as discussed last week, and in the main openstack meeting, we're planning on applying to become a core project for the Folsom release | 22:29 |
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| danwent | some folks from melange have also been talking about whether it makes sense to merge melange into quantum | 22:29 |
| danwent | separate code for the most part, but a shared API layer, docs, project org, meetings, etc. | 22:29 |
| danwent | probably a good thing to discuss in detail at the summit (April 16th, save the date!) | 22:30 |
| danwent | but wanted to let it stew a bit before then. | 22:30 |
| salvorlando | I think it makes sense to finally have a project called NetStack, as it was meant to be in the beginning! | 22:30 |
| danwent | :) | 22:30 |
| danwent | salvatore's an originalist. the one thing people will never agree on is naming :) probably best discussed over beer | 22:31 |
| danwent | only other topic was to mention a bay area meeting we were will be talking about quantum: http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/41485502/ | 22:32 |
| mestery | Note: Most things are best discussed over beer. :) | 22:32 |
| salvorlando | jokes apart, I'm for the merger. | 22:32 |
| danwent | this thursday | 22:32 |
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| salvorlando | mestery: or over alcoholic beverages in general | 22:32 |
| danwent | ok, any other items for open discussion before we adjorn for beverages? | 22:32 |
| danwent | btw, it was realy exciting to have so many new people participating in the bug squashing | 22:33 |
| rkukura | anyone object to dropping setup_*.py files? | 22:33 |
| danwent | 15+ people, very cool | 22:33 |
| bhall | rkukura: I'm all for it.. nuke 'em! | 22:34 |
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| GheRivero | shoot them all rkukura | 22:34 |
| danwent | rkukura: yeah, really appreciate the work you've been doing | 22:34 |
| danwent | Ok folks. several threads on the ML to follow-up on. Reviews for linux bridge + ryu plugins, and general dev for E-4. Sounds like a plan! | 22:35 |
| danwent | have a good week all | 22:35 |
| salvorlando | you too | 22:35 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 22:35:35 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-22.03.html | 22:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-22.03.txt | 22:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-07-22.03.log.html | 22:35 |
| salvorlando | bye! | 22:35 |
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| carlp | danwent: Got a few? | 22:35 |
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