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| heckj | Ola! | 16:07 |
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| heckj | Anyone here for the keystone meeting? | 16:07 |
| gyee | meeting time changed? | 16:07 |
| heckj | I thought it was a UTC time, so I figured it moved forward | 16:07 |
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| heckj | hrm, the wiki page isn't too clear, is it | 16:08 |
| gyee | on my outlook cal, the time still the same | 16:09 |
| heckj | what set up your outlook calendar? | 16:09 |
| heckj | ' | 16:09 |
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| gyee | someone forwarded me the meeting invite internally sometime ago | 16:10 |
| annegentle | heckj: yeah it should move forward | 16:10 |
| heckj | There's an "iCal" link to all the openstack meetings I just found at https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/bj05mroquq28jhud58esggqmh4@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics, but I'm not sure who's maintaining it. | 16:10 |
| annegentle | heckj: so the calendar shows 11:00 PST | 16:11 |
| annegentle | heckj: yeah those are updated | 16:11 |
| annegentle | heckj: rather, they are maintained | 16:11 |
| heckj | annegentle: thanks! | 16:11 |
| annegentle | heckj: np :) | 16:11 |
| heckj | I'm updating the wiki to assert just UTC times | 16:11 |
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| heckj | I expect today's attendance to be low with the time changes | 16:12 |
| heckj | I think another group pops in here right after us though.. hmmms | 16:12 |
| heckj | #startmeeting | 16:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 13 16:12:28 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 16:12 |
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| heckj | #topic RC1 and open discussion | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 and open discussion" | 16:13 | |
| heckj | since the time change hit, I'll leave it pretty free form today and we'll squat and see who wanders through | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | heckj: heya | 16:13 |
| heckj | gyee: any luck with the updated test options? | 16:13 |
| heckj | ola jay! | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | heckj: so, lots of issues with the new service account stuff... | 16:14 |
| heckj | jay: what are you seeing? And are there bugs? (I know you filed some...) | 16:14 |
| gyee | heckj, 3 errors and 1 failure | 16:14 |
| jaypipes | heckj: one sec, grabbing links | 16:15 |
| gyee | I'll dive into the code later today to see what's going on | 16:15 |
| heckj | coolio | 16:15 |
| jaypipes | heckj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?search=Search&field.bug_reporter=jaypipes | 16:15 |
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| heckj | ooh - two new ones I didn't see yesterday | 16:15 |
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| jaypipes | heckj: yeah :) | 16:15 |
| jaypipes | heckj: have to do with inconsistencies in service-list and endpoint-list when using catalog. | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | ( it think... :) | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | I think... | 16:16 |
| heckj | yeah, I believe it. | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | heckj: at a minimum, should not return AttributeError but instead Not Implemented | 16:16 |
| heckj | The model was (to me) confused on endpoints and service lists, but it still shouldn't traceback. | 16:17 |
| heckj | jaypipes: word | 16:17 |
| * heckj triages those now | 16:17 | |
| jaypipes | heckj: coolio. | 16:17 |
| heckj | jaypipes: was this with the templated backend only? (i.e. did you try with SQL backend)? | 16:18 |
| jaypipes | heckj: SQL backend works AFAICT | 16:19 |
| heckj | jaypipes: gotcha, thanks. | 16:19 |
| jaypipes | heckj: but devstack uses templatedcatalog by default which is why I ran into this... | 16:19 |
| heckj | Okay- throwing them into the RC1 bucket | 16:19 |
| heckj | yep | 16:19 |
| heckj | hmmm. For the record, I may have totally screwed up the meeting time here. | 16:20 |
| heckj | I think we actually should be at 18:00 UTC, and it's just after 16:00 UTC. | 16:20 |
| heckj | jaypipes: do you agree with RC1/critical assignment on those bugs? | 16:21 |
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| jaypipes | heckj: I do, yes | 16:22 |
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| heckj | crap, I did get it wrong. | 16:23 |
| heckj | jaypipes: thanks. | 16:23 |
| jaypipes | np | 16:23 |
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| heckj | Okay - since I screwed up, ending this meeting for now - I'll be back at 18:00UTC (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20120313T18) | 16:23 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 16:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 16:23:47 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-16.12.html | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-16.12.txt | 16:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-16.12.log.html | 16:23 |
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| dolphm | damn time change... | 16:58 |
| heckj | dolphm: yeah, I went the wrong way even | 16:58 |
| heckj | dolphm: I'll kick it up again at 1800UTC (in an hour) | 16:59 |
| dolphm | alright | 16:59 |
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| heckj | dolphm: if you're not deep into anything, mind if I pester you for a quick question? | 17:04 |
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| dolphm | heckj: go for it | 17:05 |
| dolphm | just polishing a change for review | 17:05 |
| heckj | was starting to update the docs related to middleware for the changes we wrapped into auth_token - was confused about a bug you'd raised. | 17:05 |
| dolphm | which one? | 17:05 |
| dolphm | i'm working https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/951933 | 17:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 951933 in keystone "diablo style responses to auth_token" [Critical,In progress] | 17:06 |
| heckj | in _build_user_headers() (auth_token), are the token['tenant']['id'] the new structure (essex) of token data, and token['tenantId'] the diablo responses? | 17:06 |
| heckj | yeah, exactly | 17:06 |
| dolphm | so, there's actually three places we can get tenant info from (my review will explain all this, but...) | 17:07 |
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| dolphm | essex: token['tenant']['id'], essex token['tenant']['name'] | 17:07 |
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| dolphm | pre-diablo: token['tenantId'] | 17:07 |
| dolphm | default tenant: user['tenantId'], user['tenantName'] | 17:08 |
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| dolphm | so jesse's comment is close to accurate | 17:09 |
| heckj | gotcha, OK. | 17:10 |
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| dolphm | there's also completely unscoped tokens with no default tenant... i'm actually not 100% sure how the middleware should handle that now (reject and require re-auth, i suppose?) | 17:12 |
| heckj | dolph: yes, we're trying to actively kill the idea of unscoped tokens. | 17:12 |
| dolphm | assuming delay_auth_decision is disabled | 17:12 |
| heckj | yeah | 17:12 |
| dolphm | i didn't see that behavior in the current auth_token then | 17:13 |
| dolphm | writing a test for it now | 17:13 |
| heckj | now that I say that out loud, I'm not sure we'll be able to get away with that immediately. | 17:14 |
| heckj | I wonder what systems are implicitly using the unscoped tokens since we allowed them in earlier. Might be something we have to clean up externally first. | 17:15 |
| dolphm | i asked rackspace auth, and they suggested making it a toggle | 17:17 |
| heckj | dolphm - related, did you see https://review.openstack.org/#patch,sidebyside,5273? | 17:29 |
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| dolphm | heckj: i did not... is that still a valid use case? | 17:37 |
| dolphm | heckj: i guess i need to see it reproduced | 17:37 |
| heckj | not entirely sure, I didn't think so - but I don't know what he was referencing. I -2'd the patch, asking for a bug describing the issue and a unit test to validate it | 17:37 |
| heckj | At a quick read, it didn't seem to be unreasonable, but to be honest I'm pretty lost on the mix of current and past editions of where we're stashing data related to tenants and tokens. | 17:38 |
| dolphm | +1 for your -2 | 17:39 |
| dolphm | heckj: just proposed a fix for my bug, and overwrote someone's recent refactor because i'm lazy and headed to lunch | 17:42 |
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| heckj | Okay - here's the real meeting time | 18:00 |
| * heckj hates the DST system | 18:00 | |
| heckj | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 13 18:00:49 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:00 |
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| heckj | #topic Keystone RC1 bugs, open issues, discussion, etc (freeform today) | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone RC1 bugs, open issues, discussion, etc (freeform today)" | 18:01 | |
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| heckj | New bugs popped up over the past day against Keystone. #Link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 18:02 |
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| heckj | er, is anyone besides me here? | 18:03 |
| chmouel | hello | 18:03 |
| heckj | heya | 18:04 |
| heckj | I'll wait for general status until some others wander in and raise their hands | 18:05 |
| heckj | chmouel: I added detail to the memcache unit test issue that I'm seeing. It's really odd - was planning on tracking it down today, since I'm pretty sure it's environmental in some form. | 18:05 |
| chmouel | I am not sure how to reproduce this one 954057 | 18:06 |
| heckj | chmouel: totally works on devstack and my linux host, fails repeatably and consistently on my laptop | 18:06 |
| chmouel | is the python-iso8690 (or something like that) is installed? | 18:06 |
| heckj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/954057 | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954057 in keystone "memcache test failing in python 2.6" [High,Confirmed] | 18:06 |
| heckj | chmouel- yep, that's installed and verified. The timing check just isn't triggering in that one unit test, and so the assertion isn't raised. | 18:07 |
| heckj | I'm not sure why though | 18:07 |
| chmouel | i think major is telling me in a private message that it seems to be timezone related | 18:07 |
| chmouel | any chance you can try that? | 18:07 |
| heckj | what do I do to twiddle the timezones related to the timestamp creation? | 18:08 |
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| chmouel | is your VM set in UTC+0 ? | 18:09 |
| heckj | I guess I'll read through the iso8601 help and see if there's something there? | 18:09 |
| chmouel | ie: what's the output of date | 18:09 |
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| heckj | just added the logging to see what it's doing, running now | 18:12 |
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| heckj | Here'e the failed logging output: | 18:13 |
| heckj | ====================================================================== | 18:13 |
| heckj | FAIL: test_expired_token (test_backend_memcache.MemcacheToken) | 18:13 |
| heckj | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 18:13 |
| heckj | Traceback (most recent call last): | 18:13 |
| heckj | File "/Users/heckj/src/keystone/tests/test_backend.py", line 299, in test_expired_token | 18:13 |
| heckj | self.token_api.get_token, token_id) | 18:13 |
| heckj | AssertionError: TokenNotFound not raised | 18:13 |
| heckj | -------------------- >> begin captured logging << -------------------- | 18:13 |
| heckj | root: DEBUG: expire time is 2012-03-13 11:02:32.110603 | 18:13 |
| heckj | root: DEBUG: data_ref is 2012-03-13 11:02:32.110603 | 18:13 |
| heckj | --------------------- >> end captured logging << --------------------- | 18:13 |
| rackerhacker | howdy guys | 18:14 |
| chmouel | if you backout my memcache tests is that still going on | 18:15 |
| chmouel | rackerhacker: hey | 18:15 |
| heckj | I found at least one issue - the SQL backend is a strict < check, not <= | 18:17 |
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| heckj | rackerhacker: you said you had some insight? | 18:22 |
| heckj | (that little > --> >= tweak didn't make a difference in the code) | 18:23 |
| rackerhacker | heckj: just that i can flip time zones and make the tests pass/fail | 18:24 |
| rackerhacker | they pass on utc, fail on everything else | 18:24 |
| rackerhacker | i tried PDT/CDT/EDT and it failed on all | 18:24 |
| heckj | ah, that's what chmouel was just saying | 18:24 |
| rackerhacker | i'm afraid my python skills aren't decent enough to figure out why | 18:25 |
| chmouel | this is weird it fails on test_backend when my change was in auth_token and should not touch that | 18:25 |
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| heckj | Putting this aside for a moment, getting to the meeting | 18:29 |
| heckj | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 18:29 |
| heckj | couple of new bugs overnight that I think are pretty relevant to an RC1 release - tracebacks related to the templatedService catalog. | 18:29 |
| heckj | I could use some help nailed those down - getting them at least returning NotImplemented or polite error messages rather than tracebacks. | 18:30 |
| heckj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/954089 | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954089 in keystone "service-list returns empty set for TemplatedCatalog backend" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:30 |
| heckj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/954087 | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954087 in keystone "endpoint-list with TemplatedCatalog backend raises AttributeError" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:30 |
| heckj | ayoung: you around? | 18:31 |
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| heckj | ayoung has a review up for LDAP documentation: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/949521 | 18:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 949521 in keystone "Document the LDAP Identity Driver" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:32 |
| heckj | And we have the "how are we using config" that's holding up two bugs (thread on the mailing list) | 18:32 |
| heckj | SOren's also reported a new bug: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/952977 | 18:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 952977 in keystone "Can't fetch EC2 credentials" [High,Confirmed] | 18:33 |
| annegentle | heckj: you asked my question, "which conf file?" :) | 18:33 |
| heckj | annegentle: excellent. | 18:34 |
| heckj | (did I answer?) | 18:34 |
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| annegentle | heckj: I can leave a comment on the bug, but young's doc doesn't say which conf file. | 18:35 |
| heckj | annegentle: ah, that one! Yeah, we'll get that in and updated with a configuration file. He means the keystone config, but it's not clear. | 18:35 |
| heckj | well quiet today - any questions or general discussion? Opinions on the whole config thingy? | 18:36 |
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| annegentle | heckj: I'm also wondering about the basic install doc, are we doing "install from source" or "install from these distros" (ubuntu/debian, rhel/fedora?) | 18:36 |
| heckj | annegentle: I'll make sure to at least get a "install from source" fully operational for you. I haven't seen the latest debian packaging that Ubuntu (zul, adam_g, etc) have been rolling. | 18:37 |
| heckj | I don't know at all what the RHEL/fedora packages are doing | 18:38 |
| heckj | annegentle: what are other openstack projects doing? | 18:38 |
| annegentle | heckj: I think that the projects all will rely heavily on distros | 18:38 |
| annegentle | heckj: packages will lag like they did with diablo | 18:39 |
| annegentle | heckj: so I need to write install docs that should "just work" but also have a list of known bugs that get into the release I guess | 18:39 |
| annegentle | heckj: with workarounds | 18:39 |
| annegentle | heckj: also, the openstack/identity-api repo probably needs a final polish prior to release | 18:39 |
| heckj | annegentle: then it makes sense to match those and have similiar installation docs. I haven't done any precise/ubuntu testing at all - I think we probably need to make a call out to folks to help us with notes on that. | 18:40 |
| annegentle | heckj: pretty sure it doesn't reflect reality. I do think api.openstack.org has a view of reality though. | 18:40 |
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| heckj | #action: joe to make a call out to the mailing list for package-based testing and notes from the success/failure | 18:40 |
| heckj | #action: heckj to make call to mailing list for assistance in closing down these remaining bugs | 18:41 |
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| heckj | Anything else folks? | 18:42 |
| annegentle | not from me, thanks for the info | 18:42 |
| heckj | okay - thanks all. Ending it here | 18:44 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 18:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 18:44:23 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-18.00.html | 18:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-18.00.txt | 18:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-18.00.log.html | 18:44 |
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| rackerhacker | heckj: so the data is fine in test_backend.py, but when it makes it over to test_backend_memcache.py, the expire time on the token shot one hour ahead | 18:53 |
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| heckj | rackerhacker: sounds like a timezone blerp to me! | 18:54 |
| heckj | I'm guessing it's the iso8601 translation | 18:55 |
| rackerhacker | i guess that's possible | 18:55 |
| rackerhacker | it's now - 1 in test_backend.py and now + 59 in test_backend_memcache.py | 18:55 |
| rackerhacker | so you're probably right | 18:55 |
| heckj | hmmm. | 18:59 |
| rackerhacker | i'm wondering if it's a problem with AuthProtocol._cache_put | 18:59 |
| ttx | For the DST-impaired: PPB meeting in one hour -- Project/Release meeting in two hours | 19:00 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | And CI now? | 19:01 |
| heckj | ttx: That's me - Anne already straightened me out. | 19:01 |
| * heckj thought so | 19:01 | |
| jeblair | theoretically, but we haven't heard from our chair | 19:01 |
| ttx | LinuxJedi: yes! | 19:01 |
| * LinuxJedi_cell kicks mtaylor | 19:01 | |
| mtaylor | whazzup | 19:02 |
| * heckj lurks | 19:02 | |
| jeblair | yay! let's start! | 19:02 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 13 19:03:18 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:03 |
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| mtaylor | how are people doing today? | 19:04 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Good thanks | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | great. i would like to give a status update on things i'm doing. | 19:04 |
| mtaylor | I would love that | 19:04 |
| jeblair | should i do that now? | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | <mtaylor> yes, jim go ahead | 19:06 |
| jeblair | mtaylor: thanks! | 19:06 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Lol :) | 19:06 |
| jeblair | so i've changed the tarball jobs to trigger on ref-updated | 19:06 |
| jeblair | and they no longer use the versions bzr repository, so we should have fewer failures due to the idiosynchrosies of that system | 19:07 |
| jeblair | this necessitated changing the ppa jobs as well | 19:07 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Woot! | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | woohoo | 19:07 |
| jeblair | that's been completed for all projects. here's a page with the listing of them: | 19:07 |
| jeblair | https://jenkins.openstack.org/user/corvus/my-views/view/tarball/ | 19:07 |
| jeblair | there's one failure there because the packaging for keystone is currently broken | 19:08 |
| jeblair | otherwise, of the jobs that have run since the change, they're working | 19:08 |
| jeblair | the other thing i'm starting on today is a re-vamp of the way we do images for the devstack gate test | 19:08 |
| jeblair | i'm fleshing out the database a bit more to better support multiple providers, and multiple images per-provider | 19:09 |
| jeblair | i'm also planning on creating a new snapshot image from scratch each day, rather than trying to keep a long running machine updated and snapshotting from that | 19:09 |
| jeblair | it turns out that strategy, which we're using now, fails a lot, and seems to cause problems with launching nodes when it does | 19:10 |
| soren | ref-updated is an event sent out by gerrit? | 19:10 |
| jeblair | soren: yes | 19:10 |
| soren | (Catching up) | 19:10 |
| soren | Ok, cool. | 19:10 |
| jeblair | it's when the tip of a branch, or tag, or several other git-ish things change | 19:11 |
| jeblair | so actually those jobs look for a ref updated for any branch, but ignore tags, etc. | 19:11 |
| jeblair | but if we wanted, we can use that to trigger jobs when a tag is set, which could come in handy | 19:11 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 19:12 |
| jeblair | so back to the devstack thing -- | 19:12 |
| mtaylor | yes | 19:12 |
| jeblair | the main reason i'm working on this now is to make sure we're prepared to run devstack gate tests on precise when it comes out | 19:12 |
| jeblair | so i want us to be able to easily build new images, and have the tests support multiple image types as needed as we change targets | 19:13 |
| jeblair | so i'm taking a general approach in solving that so we're prepared for whatever we need to do. (hopefully) | 19:14 |
| jeblair | that's about it for me. | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | excellent | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | btw - all awesome | 19:14 |
| jeblair | oh, one more thing: | 19:14 |
| jeblair | choumel added screen logging to devstack, so the gate tests now copy those over to jenkins | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | AWESOME | 19:14 |
| jeblair | that's a big win for developers being able to debug those tests. | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | yes. that makes me very happy | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi_cell: you want to talk about what you've been hacking on, or do you want me to since you're on a cell phone | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | (and/or - anybody have any questions for jeblair) | 19:16 |
| heckj | yeah for chmouel | 19:16 |
| heckj | yeah - had a quick question | 19:16 |
| heckj | (may not be jeblair specific) | 19:16 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Mtaylor: would be good if you could or give me 5 minutes | 19:16 |
| heckj | who are folks packaging downstream? Annegentle was poking me about install for keystone, and wanted to reference the packages for a common use case. I know the ubuntu folks, but didn't know who else was providing those packages to get some details around their setups/choices. | 19:17 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi_cell: cool | 19:17 |
| heckj | (or should I just poke the mailing list and see what comes out)? | 19:17 |
| mtaylor | heckj: I'm not sure other than the stuff the folks at Canonical are doing | 19:18 |
| heckj | mtaylor: kk - thanks. | 19:18 |
| heckj | I'll probably poke the list and see what comes out | 19:19 |
| mtaylor | cool. I think that's the best choice | 19:19 |
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| mtaylor | so, in my world, I've gottten more of the projects on to tox-based virtualenvs for testing | 19:19 |
| mtaylor | most notably, worked with Maru on getting his patch landed to swift to add tox support | 19:20 |
| jeblair | heckj: there are some fedora packages too | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | which is great - because we weren't running any of swift on virtualevns before | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | also, and possibly more importantly - we have a new CI team member at HP this week | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | devananda has joined us | 19:22 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Yay :) | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | and we'll be torturing him properly real soon now | 19:22 |
| * devananda waves | 19:22 | |
| LinuxJedi_cell | Welcome! | 19:22 |
| * soren tips his hat | 19:22 | |
| mtaylor | if things go well, I may have two more people coming on board by the design summit | 19:23 |
| jeblair | hi devananda | 19:23 |
| mtaylor | of course, stefano is going to kill me when I ask him for more entry tickets :) | 19:23 |
| jeblair | while we're in a lull: i want to bring this SF area meetup to everyone's attention: | 19:27 |
| jeblair | http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/55240842/ | 19:27 |
| jeblair | wikimedia folks are particularly interested in talking jenkins and gerrit | 19:27 |
| jeblair | i'm planning on attending | 19:27 |
| LinuxJedi_cell | I am one minute from home then can cover my stuff | 19:29 |
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| LinuxJedi | ok, mtaylor, ready whenever you want | 19:30 |
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| LinuxJedi | <mtaylor> LinuxJedi: cool, shoot | 19:31 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: thanks | 19:31 |
| LinuxJedi | so, yesterday I was working on making Gerrit look more like an Openstack site | 19:32 |
| LinuxJedi | those who watch planet openstack have probably seen a quick preview | 19:32 |
| LinuxJedi | there are a couple of hiccups I'm working though. But we are very close to a release | 19:32 |
| LinuxJedi | I'm also working on a Jenkins prototype which will hopefully be ready this week | 19:33 |
| LinuxJedi | also I have been working on Stackforge which is in a betaish release state | 19:33 |
| LinuxJedi | for those who don't know Stackforge is a launchpad/github/gerrit/jenkins setup much like Openstack but for projects related to openstack that don't fit in the normal umbrella | 19:34 |
| LinuxJedi | we have one project starting on there at the moment and probably another by the end of this week | 19:34 |
| LinuxJedi | I'm hoping to also create a homepage for it soon (I knocked up a quick logo for it Friday night) | 19:35 |
| LinuxJedi | EOF | 19:35 |
| jeblair | LinuxJedi: cool; any updates on the groups/db issue in gerrit 2.2.2 that was showing up on stackforge? | 19:37 |
| LinuxJedi | oh, good point, so...: | 19:37 |
| LinuxJedi | Gerrit 2.2.2 is being testing on Stackforge. This is mostly down to it being InnoDB compatible and we would really prefer our data not to go to hell | 19:37 |
| LinuxJedi | But, we found out on stackforge that listing groups takes a really long time | 19:38 |
| LinuxJedi | This is down to the group rendering code now iterating through all users for all groups when rendering that page just to get a couple of details (most data is thrown away) | 19:39 |
| LinuxJedi | I've filed a bug with gerrit and it has been accepted as a bug, but no progress there | 19:39 |
| LinuxJedi | as a workaround we can set Gerrit's caches really high and that takes the rendering time down from over a minute to about 3 seconds | 19:40 |
| LinuxJedi | EOF | 19:40 |
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| mtaylor | yay for caches! | 19:42 |
| LinuxJedi | yay for eating the entire VM's RAM with them ;) | 19:42 |
| mtaylor | heh | 19:42 |
| mtaylor | oh - I have one more piece of announcy stuff... | 19:42 |
| mtaylor | the first cut of the jenkins-jclouds plugin is up and ready for testing | 19:42 |
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| soren | Ooooh! | 19:43 |
| soren | How? | 19:43 |
| LinuxJedi | we are full of gifts this week ;) | 19:43 |
| mtaylor | https://github.com/jenkinsci/jclouds-plugin | 19:43 |
| mtaylor | we don't have it installed on any of our jenkinses yet - vijay just pused it up yesterday | 19:43 |
| mtaylor | but he can apparently launch slaves on rackspace cloud at the very least | 19:44 |
| mtaylor | and adrian cole is going to finish up nova support in jclouds this week | 19:44 |
| soren | *drool* | 19:44 |
| mtaylor | so we should be able to use it then to spin up nodes on a trunk openstack install, or trystack, or whatnot | 19:44 |
| mtaylor | so - WIN | 19:44 |
| * mtaylor could not be more excited | 19:44 | |
| LinuxJedi | awesome stuff :) | 19:45 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: I guess we should figure out how to start testing that | 19:46 |
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| jeblair | mtaylor: yes, if i work on it, i'd like to prioritize it after the devstack work -- i don't want to be caught unable to run devstack tests the way we need to. but that should be done by the end of the week (at the latest), i think. | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | if someone else has time before then to start poking on it, that's cool. | 19:47 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: ++ | 19:48 |
| * mtaylor will try to carve out some time to poke at it | 19:48 | |
| notmyname | this is the CI meeting, right? /topic says keystone meeting (I have questions for CI) | 19:50 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: yes it is CI | 19:50 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: mtaylor forgot to set topic :) | 19:51 |
| notmyname | I've got 2 core devs for swift that can't contribute (aren't seen as core by gerrit) | 19:52 |
| notmyname | any progress on that? | 19:52 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: which one of us is working on that? | 19:52 |
| * LinuxJedi fixed the only one I know of | 19:52 | |
| notmyname | not sure. ust trying to follow up (it may be all LP now) | 19:53 |
| notmyname | I didn't know if it was really fixed or a one-time fix sort of thing | 19:53 |
| notmyname | letterj and redbo | 19:53 |
| notmyname | both had the issues of merged accounts | 19:53 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: I was working on letterj and can update you there: | 19:53 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: letterj's OpenID was broken due to an account merge. A very wll known bug on Launchpad. Unfortunately Launchpad team made it worse when they tried to fix it | 19:54 |
| notmyname | yay | 19:54 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: so I have temporarily made both OpenIDs work for him. But pointed out this is a very temporary workaround. In the mean time he is working with Launchpad to fix it | 19:55 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: I don't know how far he has got after that | 19:55 |
| notmyname | ok, thanks | 19:55 |
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| * LinuxJedi thinks jeblair was working on redbo. As far as I am aware that was a different problem, but I don't have logs going back that far | 19:56 | |
| notmyname | so he just submitted code for review (as we've been chatting), and it looks like it's working for him now | 19:56 |
| LinuxJedi | awesome :) | 19:57 |
| notmyname | also, one other minor issue I'd like to ping status on | 19:57 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: shoot | 19:57 |
| LinuxJedi | oh, for those who want to know about the Launchpad account merge bug, it is at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/881019 | 19:58 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 881019 in summit "Lp login is broken after account merge" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:58 |
| notmyname | getting commit messages to be simply "+1", "+2", etc instead of the "I'd prefer you didn't submit this..." | 19:58 |
| notmyname | a minor issue (but it's my pet issue), so I wanted to see if there has been any movement on it :-) | 19:58 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: is there a bug open for it? | 19:59 |
| notmyname | no idea | 19:59 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: ^ ? | 19:59 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: we have goldfish brains so we need ways of tracking ;) | 19:59 |
| notmyname | I was talking to mtaylor about it, so I'd guess there is one somewhere | 19:59 |
| notmyname | he's generally good about that sort of thing | 19:59 |
| jeblair | we have 87 open bugs. :/ | 20:00 |
| LinuxJedi | ah, probably | 20:00 |
| notmyname | jeblair: I know the feeling. just ignore them and they go away (right?) | 20:00 |
| LinuxJedi | jeblair: yay, new achievement unlocked! | 20:00 |
| jeblair | hehe | 20:00 |
| LinuxJedi | jeblair: to be fair, several are actually for other companies/teams/projects to fix | 20:01 |
| LinuxJedi | such as the LP bug and Gerrit 2.2.2 bug | 20:01 |
| LinuxJedi | anyway, this meeting is overrunning | 20:01 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: time to close up? | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | yeah - I think so | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | sorry, my goldfish brain got distracted | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | Thanks guys! | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 20:02 |
| LinuxJedi | lol :) | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 20:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 20:02:23 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-19.03.html | 20:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-19.03.txt | 20:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-19.03.log.html | 20:02 |
| ttx | Project/Release meeting in 57 min | 20:03 |
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| ttx | Project/release Meeting starts in 7min | 20:54 |
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| ttx | o/ | 20:59 |
| Vek | \o | 20:59 |
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| heckj | o/ (look, I'm on time!) | 21:00 |
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| ttx | heckj: yay! | 21:00 |
| ttx | notmyname, bcwaldon/jaypipes, vishy, devcamcar: around ? | 21:00 |
| glenc | \o | 21:00 |
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| vishy | o/ | 21:01 |
| jaypipes | ttx: o/ | 21:01 |
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| heckj | devcamcar is sick today - if ohnoimdead isn't around, I'll cover for him | 21:01 |
| uksysadmin | lots of people in here who helped me today: o/ << high five - not a wave | 21:02 |
| ohnoimdead | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | notmyname: ping? | 21:02 |
| ttx | ok, let's start | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 13 21:03:01 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:03 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:03 |
| ttx | General progress towards RC1, for those interested: | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/rc1.html | 21:03 |
| ttx | (everyone likes graphs) | 21:03 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:03 | |
| ttx | * jaypipes to find volunteer for 934492: done | 21:04 |
| ttx | * vishy and ttx to discuss how to catch release-critical bugs | 21:04 |
| ttx | So far the RC bugs found us, so we didn't need to go a long way to catch them. | 21:04 |
| ttx | But I guess we still need to have a discussion on that. | 21:04 |
| ttx | * vishy to take leftover RC1 bugs (if any) to the ML for volunteers | 21:04 |
| ttx | All RC bugs are assigned, so we are good here. | 21:04 |
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| ttx | * ttx and mtaylor to investigate actions around branches when we "open Folsom" | 21:05 |
| ttx | Investigation was done, I think the process is now mostly defined. | 21:05 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:05 | |
| ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:05 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:05 |
| heckj | I put out a call earlier today to the ML that has a very nice response | 21:05 |
| ttx | 14 RC bugs left (was 11 last week) | 21:06 |
| heckj | We are very behind on bugs, including some new ones found just last night, but they're all now assigned and moving | 21:06 |
| ttx | yes, that was cool | 21:06 |
| ttx | heckj: some bugs look a bit stuck | 21:06 |
| heckj | I'm afraid the other projects are quite ahead of us, but we're picking up steam to get an RC1 cut out the door | 21:06 |
| ttx | bug 950364 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 950364 in keystone "the owner field in glance is tenant_name" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950364 | 21:06 |
| * ttx refreshes | 21:06 | |
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| ttx | bug 924029 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 924029 in openstack-manuals "services.xsd has incorrect service type for Glance" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924029 | 21:07 |
| ttx | bug 944372 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 944372 in keystone "docs/middleware_architecture out of sync with auth_token" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944372 | 21:07 |
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| ttx | and bug 942793 and bug 949373 look stuck on the outcome of the cfg discussion | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 942793 in keystone "keystone-all ignores all command line options" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942793 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 949373 in keystone "Default configuration values are ignored" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949373 | 21:07 |
| ttx | Can the situation be unblocked for the last two ? | 21:07 |
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| heckj | I believe so - markmc has a number of patches pending that should resolve them, and we'll move it forward with those reviews shortly. They might potentially impact the testing of keystone, so we'll walk through them carefully. | 21:08 |
| heckj | It's fundamentally about moving from a global config to a non-global - plenty on the list about that | 21:09 |
| ttx | heckj: based on the current list, what is your rough ETA for the RC ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | You have a good bugfix rate, but the issues keep on coming :) | 21:09 |
| ttx | My main concern is that in an ideal world, with Keystone being used by all the other pieces, we need it in RC state first | 21:10 |
| heckj | The flurry of patches from markmc is the biggest unknown. I'll be focusing on those this week, along with a few items assigned for me to fix as bugs themselves. I'd like to aim for friday for them all to be resolved, but I don't know what I don't know. | 21:10 |
| ttx | heckj: sounds good. | 21:10 |
| ttx | Does anyone have a bug that they think should be added to the RC list ? | 21:11 |
| heckj | Most of the bugs around keystone are *not* preventing it from being used by other projects, and those get absolutely critical immediate attention. | 21:11 |
| heckj | I've heard good anecdotal evidence that it's working well in some limited essex-4/rc testing as well | 21:11 |
| ttx | heckj: remember you can use the "essex-rc-potential" tag to mark non-release-blocking targets of opportunity, if you have any | 21:11 |
| heckj | ttx: thanks, will do | 21:11 |
| ttx | heckj: anything else ? | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: should doc bugs be consider blockers | 21:12 |
| annegentle | anotherjesse: ttx good question | 21:12 |
| heckj | not from me. Questions? | 21:12 |
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| heckj | anotherjesse: ++ | 21:12 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: yeah that's a good question. Depends on where the doc lands, I guess | 21:12 |
| * annegentle says if it's not documented it doesn't exist :) | 21:12 | |
| heckj | I'll happily pull that off the blocker list if it isn't - have been assuming it was | 21:12 |
| bcwaldon | annegentle: ++ | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: the keystone.openstack.org / nova.openstack.org docs are in the projects themselves | 21:13 |
| ttx | If the doc is included in the release deliverable, I'd say a basic level of doc is a blocker yes | 21:13 |
| anotherjesse | but we could push changes to those after an RC is cut and still update the website ... | 21:13 |
| annegentle | ttx: anotherjesse yep, I'd rather not have doc inaccuracies ship with code, but yes the web lets us fix faster | 21:13 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: so it boils down to what "basic level of doc" is :) | 21:14 |
| annegentle | ttx: I'm okay with basic level being install and configure, anotherjesse what do you think? | 21:14 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: we can certainly complement the doc after the RC in various ways, but the doc shipped with the project should be accurate and kinda useful | 21:14 |
| annegentle | keystone has good command-line help | 21:15 |
| gabrielhurley | annegentle: +1, anything required to run the code is a release blocker in my book. the rest is nice-to-have. | 21:15 |
| ttx | so at one point doc bugs should move to "essex-rc-potential" tag | 21:15 |
| anotherjesse | we can probably talk about docs in general at the end | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok | 21:15 |
| ttx | Questions about Keystone ? | 21:16 |
| anotherjesse | not really keystone specific | 21:16 |
| ttx | agreed | 21:16 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:16 | |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:16 |
| notmyname | good afternoon | 21:16 |
| ttx | notmyname: how is 1.4.8 going ? | 21:16 |
| notmyname | good. here's the plan: | 21:17 |
| notmyname | review and merge everything possible by the end of this week | 21:17 |
| notmyname | make packages for milestone-proposed next monday | 21:17 |
| notmyname | do QA | 21:17 |
| notmyname | and release 1.4.8 on thurs mar 22nd | 21:17 |
| notmyname | 1.4.8 will be our essex release | 21:17 |
| ttx | notmyname: do you have new features planned, or only bugfixes ? | 21:17 |
| ttx | notmyname: (asking because some distros have asked me) | 21:18 |
| notmyname | mostly bugfixes, but I hope to have object versioning in this week | 21:18 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok | 21:18 |
| ttx | plan looks alright to me | 21:19 |
| annegentle | notmyname: please ensure docs are updated based on features/bug fixes | 21:19 |
| notmyname | annegentle: indeed | 21:19 |
| ttx | Daviey: sounds like an FFe for object versioning if you want to ship 1.4.8 in Precise | 21:19 |
| * annegentle high fives notmyname | 21:19 | |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | no, I don't think so | 21:19 |
| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 21:20 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: go ahead | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | Looks like there's a review in gerrit that needs notmyname's approval | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | https://review.openstack.org/#change,4893 | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | chmouel noted it was a blocker for a bug in glance | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | it already has 5 +1's, so it shouldn't be difficult to review :) | 21:21 |
| notmyname | bcwaldon: it's one of the several reviews that is partially reviewed (has at least +1 or +2) and needs to get merged this week | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | notmyname: yep, as long as this week is the goal | 21:21 |
| ttx | moving to Glance, unless there is more to discuss on that | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | not from me | 21:22 |
| notmyname | I'd expect most of the outstanding reviews to land this week | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | ok, thanks! | 21:22 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:22 | |
| ttx | jaypipes: yo | 21:22 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | ttx: oy | 21:22 |
| ttx | 5 RC bugs left (was 4 last week) | 21:22 |
| ttx | jaypipes: based on the current list, what is your ETA for the RC ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | (My main concern about Glance is the low bugfix rate, but the number of bugs mitigates that) | 21:23 |
| Daviey | ttx: Sorry, was AFK.. Swift: 1.4.8 is really concerning me. I'm thinking 1.4.7 might be safer for our LTS. | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I think no more than end of this week.. | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: just approved a fix for one of them and assigned the last unclaimed bug to myself | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: 3/5 bugs are keystone related | 21:23 |
| heckj | yeah me! | 21:23 |
| ttx | jaypipes: ok | 21:23 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: and one is waiting for a second +2 (nullable name) | 21:24 |
| ttx | heckj: get used to it, we blame keystone for everything | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: you got it 5 minutes ago :) | 21:24 |
| Vek | jaypipes: bcwaldon +2'd it, but it failed on python 2.7 unit tests. | 21:24 |
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| ttx | Daviey: your call, obviously | 21:24 |
| ttx | Anyone have a bug that should be added to the Glance RC list ? | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | Vek: should be a random cache thing... should re-run that | 21:25 |
| Vek | I just hit "retrigger" | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | coolio. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | heckj: just about to push tests and a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/954089 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954089 in keystone "service-list returns empty set for TemplatedCatalog backend" [Critical,In progress] | 21:26 |
| heckj | sweet! Thank you! | 21:26 |
| ttx | jaypipes: Anything else ? | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | welcome | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | ttx: nope. the dev/cdrom bug is really low priority. that's the only one I'd kick out of RC. | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | ttx: but... the good news is that Tempest against Essex is now passing all 128 integration tests... | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | w00t. | 21:27 |
| ttx | you can tag it with the magic tag if you want it to be in scope but optional | 21:27 |
| ttx | 128? cool. | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yeah, was going to do that.. also mark it low hanging.. | 21:27 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:27 |
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| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status" | 21:28 | |
| ttx | vishy: hey | 21:28 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:28 |
| vishy | hi | 21:28 |
| ttx | wow, 3 RC bugs left (down from 17 last week) | 21:29 |
| vishy | so we are very close | 21:29 |
| vishy | in fact I have one more | 21:29 |
| vishy | all of those were reported today | 21:29 |
| vishy | we were done for a second :) | 21:29 |
| ttx | yes, I saw that | 21:29 |
| ttx | I almost released RC1, but... no. | 21:29 |
| vishy | just added this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/953831 | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953831 in nova "when creating instance root image file,nova does not check backing file is ready.file is " [High,In progress] | 21:30 |
| vishy | just was verifying that there is an actual race condition there | 21:30 |
| ttx | Bug 954086 needs an assignee | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954086 in nova "nova fails when requesting volumes using '--insecure' flag" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954086 | 21:30 |
| vishy | should have a fix proposed soon | 21:30 |
| ttx | Who works on that one ? | 21:30 |
| vishy | ttx: yes, that one seems important but I haven't found someone to take it yet | 21:30 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: ^^ can you look at that? | 21:31 |
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| bcwaldon | vishy: ten-four | 21:31 |
| ttx | All remaining bugs look in good progress. | 21:31 |
| vishy | there are also three remaining rc potential bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential | 21:31 |
| ttx | So... my main concern about Nova is potential unknown showstoppers | 21:32 |
| ttx | vishy: At some point I think we'll need to go through the ~75 Nova bugs in "New/undecided" state | 21:32 |
| ttx | and prioritize them, to make sure we didn't miss an Essex blocker | 21:32 |
| Daviey | ttx: If it works for an hr in devstack, we are solid, no? :) | 21:32 |
| ttx | Daviey: that's my metric | 21:32 |
| anotherjesse | Daviey: jaypipes has tempest running against devstack and non-devstack deploys as well ;) | 21:33 |
| Daviey | anotherjesse: That is great! | 21:33 |
| jaypipes | yup. | 21:33 |
| ttx | Does anyone have a bug that should be added to the Nova RC list ? | 21:34 |
| ttx | Test, test, test :) | 21:34 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 21:34 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: jog0 will have one momentarily :( | 21:34 |
| vishy | ttx: I've been grabbing any bugs that come through on the ml and I haven't seen any | 21:34 |
| vishy | ttx: although it has been going super fast lately, I'm barely able to keep up | 21:34 |
| ttx | the bugmail has been rather daunting recently -- great work everyone | 21:34 |
| jog0 | I also have a question: nova VSA support is broken what should be done about that for Essex? | 21:34 |
| vishy | jog0: probably just going to have to be broken | 21:35 |
| bcwaldon | three options: ship broken code, fix it, delete it | 21:35 |
| annegentle | vishy: ttx: do we consider the 8 doc bugs against openstack-manuals actually nova doc bugs? I don't think so but they are config doc items | 21:35 |
| bcwaldon | what use is broken code? | 21:35 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: I gues my concern is ripping it out without accidentally touching something else | 21:35 |
| ttx | annegentle: if they need to be fixed in nova itself, yes | 21:35 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: clearly we have to leave the db tables in for example | 21:36 |
| ttx | I'm for ripping out known-broken..; though I don't want to make Twitter explode again | 21:36 |
| bcwaldon | vishy: why should we leave db tables? | 21:36 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: because i think db migrations at this point is dangerous | 21:36 |
| ttx | vishy: +1 | 21:36 |
| annegentle | ttx: they are all configuration docs that don't exist anywhere that I know of. These docs could exist in nova but don't "have" to other than by the definition of "install and config are basic level docs" | 21:36 |
| bcwaldon | even to delete a few self-contained tables? | 21:36 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: what is the value of pulling it out to that extent | 21:37 |
| ttx | annegentle: I think they should be non-blocking nova bugs then (tagged "essex-rc-potential") | 21:37 |
| vishy | ? | 21:37 |
| annegentle | ttx: okay | 21:37 |
| bcwaldon | vishy: I dont want to ship it and have users think it works for the next 6 months | 21:37 |
| bcwaldon | vishy: but I agree we could leave underlying code and still get that | 21:38 |
| bcwaldon | vishy: by removing apis | 21:38 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: we should discuss that on the bug itself. But I agree it needs to appear at the very least in our rc-potential list | 21:38 |
| ttx | need to move on | 21:38 |
| bcwaldon | ok, we can discuss this later | 21:38 |
| vishy | bcwaldon, ttx: ok lets discuss offline | 21:38 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:38 |
| vishy | jog0: you have another bug to target? | 21:38 |
| vishy | or is that what bcwaldon was referring to? | 21:39 |
| jog0 | yes, but its small | 21:39 |
| jog0 | nova/openstack/common/cfg.py: 'nova.api.openstack.contrib.standard_extensions' | 21:39 |
| ttx | jog0: file and you should get targeted | 21:39 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:39 |
| vishy | jog0: yes link me the bug and i will target if appropriate | 21:39 |
| jog0 | it will be in shortly | 21:39 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon status" | 21:40 | |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: o/ | 21:40 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:40 |
| ohnoimdead | \o/ | 21:40 |
| ttx | 6 RC bugs left (down from 18 last week), all assigned | 21:40 |
| ttx | that number just fell :) | 21:40 |
| heckj | look, magic! | 21:40 |
| ttx | I wonder where those bugs are gone now. | 21:41 |
| ohnoimdead | yeah, we had a few we were hoping to get in but were not blockers (didn't know about essex-rc-potential | 21:41 |
| ttx | cool | 21:41 |
| ttx | I have no particular concern about Horizon, sounds well on track | 21:41 |
| ohnoimdead | gabriel is banging on his final few plus doc blueprint and will be done today | 21:41 |
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| gabrielhurley | huzzah | 21:41 |
| ohnoimdead | andy has a review out for his with comments and jake's is nearly done | 21:41 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: Anything particular in mind ? Any bug in the other projects blocking you ? | 21:41 |
| ohnoimdead | the big concern right now that has the most impact on horizon is the mysql connection bug which joe is well aware of | 21:42 |
| annegentle | ohnoimdead: I have a TryStack member writing a Dashboard how-to to back port to Diablo docs, also hoping to get an Essex tutorial on Dashboard as well. | 21:42 |
| gabrielhurley | annegentle: I'm gonna have *lots* of docs forthcoming, but not for the RC1 | 21:43 |
| ohnoimdead | annegentle: is someone on the hook for essex dash tutorial? | 21:43 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: does that mysql thing have a bug number ? | 21:43 |
| annegentle | gabrielhurley: ok, sounds good, let me know what types so I don't find other volunteers :) | 21:43 |
| gabrielhurley | annegentle: will do. | 21:43 |
| ohnoimdead | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/943031 | 21:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 943031 in quantum "After MySQL connection failure (or timeout), first request reports MySQL Server has gone away, following requests work" [High,In progress] | 21:43 |
| annegentle | ohnoimdead: yes, though I had to send him screenshots so he doesn't have a working Essex afaik | 21:44 |
| ohnoimdead | annegentle: um... :p | 21:44 |
| ttx | OK. Questions for Horizon ? | 21:44 |
| annegentle | ohnoimdead: so yeah the diablo back port is more likely :) | 21:44 |
| ohnoimdead | annegentle: gabriel and i can probably put something together after rc1 | 21:44 |
| annegentle | it's a nice example of how TryStack helps with "makin' it real" | 21:45 |
| ttx | Moving on | 21:45 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incubated projects and other Team reports" | 21:45 | |
| ttx | danwent, troytoman: yo | 21:45 |
| danwent | hi | 21:45 |
| danwent | https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:45 |
| danwent | still have a fair number of things targeted, but they are all in review except for a docs change | 21:46 |
| danwent | I think we're in good shape for our target to have an RC1 by tomorrow. | 21:46 |
| danwent | that's about it. | 21:46 |
| ttx | danwent: oh, ok. Ping me when you want it :) | 21:46 |
| danwent | great, thanks! | 21:46 |
| ttx | annegentle: More discussion on docs ? | 21:47 |
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| annegentle | ttx: two people have signed up for the remaining nova configuration doc tasks, six more needed | 21:47 |
| ttx | annegentle: what are the remaining tasks ? | 21:47 |
| annegentle | I've pulled in all 485 nova flags to http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaConfigOptions | 21:48 |
| ttx | vishy: would be good to avoid adding new flags, now :) | 21:48 |
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| annegentle | I think I have prioritized the absolutely essential but with 485 flags I know there are still gaps | 21:49 |
| vishy | ttx: agreed | 21:49 |
| ttx | annegentle: could you link to the remaining nova configuration doc tasks, so that I can add it to the meeting minutes ? | 21:49 |
| vishy | ttx: which is a bummer because i thought we might need another couple | 21:49 |
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| annegentle | also the removal of -- in front of all the "things formerly known as flags" is going to be tough to merge | 21:50 |
| annegentle | ttx: yeah was searching | 21:50 |
| ttx | vishy: you can still negociate with anne, but docteam needs to know when/if we add one | 21:50 |
| annegentle | remaining doc priorities: | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953129 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953129 in openstack-manuals "Docs need Essex overview of RBAC model and policy.json configuration" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953129 | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953137 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953137 in openstack-manuals "Need docs for Configuring the ec2 compatibility api for Compute in Essex" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953137 | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953134 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953134 in openstack-manuals "Docs need Essex info for configuring nova-api" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953134 | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953138 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953138 in openstack-manuals "Need doc update for Essex for configuring Compute's storage system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953138 | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953148 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953148 in openstack-manuals "Metadata configuration needs to be documented in Essex" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953148 | 21:51 |
| annegentle | bug 953151 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 953151 in openstack-manuals "Network configuration - Linux bridging, OVS, Multi-nic not well documented for Essex" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953151 | 21:51 |
| ttx | annegentle: those are openstack-manuals, or in-nova ? | 21:51 |
| annegentle | ttx: those are against openstack-manuals but could be also copied to nova | 21:52 |
| ttx | annegentle: ok, coordinate with vishy if you need to add them to RC1 scope | 21:52 |
| annegentle | ttx: ok will do | 21:52 |
| ttx | annegentle: anything else ? | 21:52 |
| annegentle | also looks like anotherjesse had something? | 21:52 |
| anotherjesse | annegentle: are you referring to the conversation in #dev | 21:53 |
| annegentle | anotherjesse: no your hint at the beginning of the meeting | 21:53 |
| ttx | <anotherjesse> but we could push changes to those after an RC is cut and still update the website ... | 21:53 |
| heckj | o/ (would like to know the status of tempest) | 21:53 |
| anotherjesse | annegentle: my assumption is we keep working on docs improvements even after the RC | 21:54 |
| ttx | I think once the very basics are covered, doc bugs should not block release | 21:54 |
| anotherjesse | but some of those docs live in code | 21:54 |
| annegentle | anotherjesse: absolutely | 21:54 |
| ttx | and get pushed to the websites if needed | 21:54 |
| ttx | (openstack-manuals, wiki, etc.) | 21:54 |
| anotherjesse | so would we push a new RC if there were doc updates? | 21:54 |
| annegentle | really I'm trying to target bare-minimum as highest priority I promise | 21:54 |
| annegentle | anotherjesse: probably just a best effort to keep in mind | 21:54 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: that wouldn't warrant a reroll in my book | 21:55 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: but we would include them in if we rerolled | 21:55 |
| annegentle | docs will have errors, code will have errors | 21:55 |
| ttx | i.e. "essex-rc-potential" | 21:55 |
| anotherjesse | annegentle: !!! what !!! my code is perfect | 21:55 |
| anotherjesse | except https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/954377 | 21:55 |
| ttx | mine is too. | 21:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 954377 in nova "ec2 metadata service regressed for block-device-mapping and empty kernel-id, ramdisk-id" [High,In progress] | 21:55 |
| Vek | maybe a comment in the code-shipped doc segments that "the most up-to-date documentation can be found at <url>" | 21:55 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:55 |
| anotherjesse | Vek: that might be good - add to the sphinx docs template | 21:56 |
| ttx | jaypipes: <heckj> o/ (would like to know the status of tempest) | 21:56 |
| annegentle | Vek: anotherjesse yeah that's in the Sphinx template for nova/swift/keystone at least | 21:56 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:57 | |
| heckj | jaypipes: specifically, how is it coming towards being stable enough to run as a gate... | 21:57 |
| ttx | #info The sessions proposal website for the design summit is now open ! | 21:57 |
| ttx | See http://wiki.openstack.org/Summit for details | 21:57 |
| ttx | #link http://summit.openstack.org | 21:57 |
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| ttx | heckj: looks like you'll have to ask jaypipes on another channel. | 21:59 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:59 |
| heckj | yeah, I'll catch him later - not in the critical path for anything | 21:59 |
| ttx | ok then... have a good week, everyone | 22:00 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 22:00:28 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-21.03.html | 22:00 |
| lloydde | thnx ttx! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-21.03.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-21.03.log.html | 22:00 |
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| danwent | hey netstack! | 22:00 |
| * ttx wonders why the bot resets the topic to a keystone meeting after every meeting | 22:00 | |
| rkukura | hey | 22:01 |
| * heckj wonders that too | 22:01 | |
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| davlap | hi folks! | 22:01 |
| wwkeyboard | hello | 22:01 |
| anotherjesse | keystone is always the problem/discussion right? | 22:01 |
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| uksysadmin | lol | 22:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Hi All! | 22:01 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: right, but I thought the bot wasn't smart enough to know that | 22:01 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 13 22:02:05 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:02 |
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| jlm^ | We tried to change it away from Keystone as the default topic, but kept on getting permission denied errors. | 22:02 |
| danwent | #info agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:02 |
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| danwent | Ok, our target for Essex RC1 is tomorrow | 22:02 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 22:02 |
| GheRivero | hi | 22:02 |
| danwent | overall, we're in pretty good shape code-wise | 22:03 |
| danwent | we just need a final push of reviews. | 22:03 |
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| danwent | and there are a few tricky issues we'll talk about later in the meeting | 22:04 |
| danwent | whoops… my wireless dropped for a second :) | 22:04 |
| danwent | but first, are there any issues not yet targeted for RC1? | 22:04 |
| danwent | I found one this morning by sifting through the reviews | 22:04 |
| danwent | Ok, the agenda has links to three reviews that should be pretty straight-forward | 22:05 |
| danwent | I wanted to bring up the two reviews targeted for RC1 that are not necessarily straightforward | 22:05 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#change,5293 | 22:05 |
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| danwent | is rkukura around? | 22:06 |
| danwent | this is probably the biggest outstanding change. adds rootwrap to all client agents. | 22:06 |
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| rkukura | its only slightly crooked | 22:06 |
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| edgarmagana | hi there! | 22:07 |
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| danwent | ok, i haven't had a chance to review the rootwrap stuff yet, but assuming it doesn't require mucking with dependencies, I think its good to go in RC1 | 22:08 |
| rkukura | the patch adds root_helper to the agents, and rootwrap is only involved if the deployer configures it. | 22:08 |
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| danwent | great | 22:08 |
| danwent | Ok, and the other interesting patch is: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5220 | 22:08 |
| danwent | this patch was merged as is into nova, and a few other projects (ultimately, it belongs in openstack-common) | 22:09 |
| danwent | willian noticed that it used some deprecated capabilities, but other projects apparently decided to fix that issue in folsom | 22:10 |
| danwent | is willian here? | 22:10 |
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| mnewby | the deprecation may not be an issue | 22:10 |
| danwent | mnewby: ok. i don't have a lot of context here, so my default would be to follow the decision made by nova and others | 22:11 |
| mnewby | i'm not sure what version of sqlalchemy will be the default across openstack. there was a discussion about whether it would be 0.6 or 0..7 | 22:11 |
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| danwent | mnewby: does it currently vary? | 22:11 |
| mnewby | (for essex i mean) | 22:11 |
| danwent | in terms of what is specified in pip-requires? | 22:11 |
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| mnewby | I'll check | 22:12 |
| danwent | ok, so let's just handle the rest of the discussion on the review itself, but I wanted to raise a flag on that one. | 22:12 |
| danwent | Ok, so as we get to an RC, ideally we can test quantum and the various plugins using actual distros, not just our dev setups | 22:12 |
| danwent | this is obviously important for catching any packaging related issues. | 22:13 |
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| danwent | the fedora team put together a really cool page to help with this on fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_run_Nova_with_Quantum | 22:13 |
| wwkeyboard | That's excelent! | 22:13 |
| danwent | i've pinged folks from canonical about the quantum packaging on ubuntu. I played around with it over the weekend on precise, and didn't have a lot of luck. Though it could have been that I misconfigured something | 22:14 |
| davlap | very nice! | 22:14 |
| danwent | If I hear anything back, I will make sure it gets to the list. If anyone else has success on precise, please let us know. | 22:14 |
| danwent | are there any other distros we should be targeting for testing? | 22:14 |
| danwent | on a different note, I think we're very close to having a final version of debo's excercise script that will get merged into devstack | 22:15 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#change,4665 | 22:16 |
| danwent | reviews there are greatly appreciated. | 22:16 |
| danwent | (davlaps, that was quick!) | 22:16 |
| davlap | :) | 22:16 |
| danwent | debo-os, did you say you are already running this regularly on your own setup? | 22:16 |
| debo-os | not regularly .... occasionally | 22:17 |
| danwent | ok. well hopefully we can work with the openstack-ci team to run it regularly once it is merged | 22:17 |
| debo-os | but I have a machine where I can run it as a cron job | 22:17 |
| danwent | #info reminder about the community project page: http://wiki.openstack.org/QuantumStarterBugs | 22:17 |
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| danwent | #info and the thread on the ML about what the Quantum team should focus on in Folsom. Goal is to get a good mix of whiz-bang new capabilities and good ole fashioned platform improvements. | 22:19 |
| danwent | summit sign-up website is up, but I want to make sure we get good community input on the ML, so we have a cohesive quantum track. | 22:19 |
| danwent | If you haven't replied to the ML thread, please do so in the next few days. | 22:20 |
| danwent | ok, any open discussion? | 22:20 |
| carlp | is that whlooking forward to that | 22:20 |
| danwent | ? | 22:20 |
| carlp | sorry, very laggy today | 22:20 |
| danwent | :) | 22:20 |
| carlp | I'm looking forward to usnning debo-os's code in CI :) | 22:21 |
| danwent | yeah, will be a HUGE win | 22:21 |
| debo-os | carlp: please let me know how I can help ... also its not just my code, DavidL is a co-contributor .... | 22:21 |
| danwent | Ok, sounds like that's everyone. Please remember to pick off a few reviews today if you haven't already. RC1 will drop tomorrow unless we get any nasty new bugs! | 22:21 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 22:22:12 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-22.02.html | 22:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-22.02.txt | 22:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-13-22.02.log.html | 22:22 |
| carlp | however, I need to get in touch with monty, he pulled m,y access the other day for some reason | 22:23 |
| carlp | debo-os: I'll start playing with it this weekend | 22:23 |
| danwent | carlp: that would be great | 22:23 |
| debo-os | coool! | 22:23 |
| debo-os | dan,dave,carl: thx a bunch | 22:24 |
| carlp | no, thank you! hardware and sysadmin is easy, code is hard | 22:24 |
| carlp | :) | 22:24 |
| debo-os | carlp: you think setting up hw is easy? then you should count the number of threads on the ML about devstack and setup in general :) | 22:25 |
| carlp | yeah, devstack and I had words last week. Silly horizon changing everything and ignoring the CI errors about it breaking devstack :) | 22:26 |
| carlp | when devstack works it's great, when it doesn't - you need a chicken and old priest and a young priest it seems | 22:26 |
| debo-os | ;) | 22:27 |
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| anotherjesse | carlp: ay dios mio | 22:35 |
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