Tuesday, 2012-03-20

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annegentleogelbukh: I was hoping someone else would review, but I'm ok with merging it. Can you rebase against trunk? It has moved a bit.14:48
annegentleonce I see the Patch Set 3 as rebased I'll approve14:48
annegentleogelbukh: sorry for such a delay.14:48
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ogelbukhannegentle: thanks a lot, will be there soon14:54
GheRiverohi, can someone unbanned me from #openstack and #openstack-dev? Thnx14:58
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dolphmhow'd you get banned?15:03
dolphmGheRivero: ^15:03
GheRiverosome time ago, i was testing ipv6 connectivity with sixxs, and due to continuous connections/disconnections i got banned15:04
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heckjmorning morning!18:02
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heckjWHo's here for Keystone 0/18:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 18:02:44 2012 UTC.  The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:02
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heckj#topic RC1 status18:03
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heckj#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc118:03
heckjWe're closing in on things, and having termie back from sxsw should help a bit :-)18:04
heckjBug 952977 is still outstanding - I tried helping Andrew with it a bit yesterday, but didn't make much progress against it (helping him)18:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 952977 in keystone "Can't fetch EC2 credentials" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95297718:04
heckjAndrew are you here?18:04
dolphmheckj: based on the bug description, that is impacted (and maaaybe fixed) by https://review.openstack.org/#change,535818:05
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ayoungDoes KVS support EC2?18:05
dolphmbut i'm not sure if the bug is asking for a better error message or a totally different behavior18:05
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ayoungOr is Devstack using MySQL now\18:06
termiedevstack uses sql18:06
heckjThere are a couple of other issues that will likely populate into RC1 when we get details back - using EC2 commands against a devstack instance18:06
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heckjDolphm - how's the status of your bugs in progress? Any assistance needed?18:06
dolphmheckj: just need some reviews, approvals, and a -2 cleared18:07
dolphmreview/approval needed: https://review.openstack.org/#change,535818:07
dolphmjesse is blocking https://review.openstack.org/#change,5485 which i don't think is necessary anymore18:07
termiere that bug you just linked, abotu ec2 creds, it seems like it needs a better error message18:07
termiebut that behavior is expected18:07
heckjblock isn't needed anymore - so we'll find him and get it cleared18:07
dolphmtermie: then my review fixes it18:08
anotherjessedolphm: I can unblock18:08
dolphmanotherjesse: thank you18:08
dolphmand i'm not sure what's going on here (i pinged jeblair, no response): https://review.openstack.org/#change,531418:08
dolphmand thats 6 of the remaining 8 keystone bugs :)18:08
dolphmRC blockers, anyway18:08
heckjIs anyone aware of any other bugs or issues outstanding that might be coming in for RC1 blockers?18:09
dolphmi'm not18:09
heckjtermie submitted a patch for the CONF related pieces, so those are in progress. MarkMC's conf refactoring is therefore on hold and not likely to roll in prior to Folsom at this point18:10
termieor ever18:10
termiepossibly ;)18:10
termiethat's still an email to read on my list18:10
* heckj nods18:10
heckj#topic folsom summit18:10
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heckjswitching topics -18:11
heckjgyee mentioned the other day a couple of issues to chat about at folsom18:11
heckjwith RC1 closing down a bit, I'll be focusing on getting things set up for the summit.18:11
gyeewe have 3 BPs up for discussion18:11
heckj#link http://summit.openstack.org is available to submit talks within - I'm going to try and organize a few design pieces up front, and a later session specifically around deployment issues.18:12
gyeewhich track should they go to?18:12
termiegyee: link to bps?18:12
heckjgyee: keystone track, but some of that will be impactful enough that we'll want to sync any conversation across all of openstack to make it viable (the domain setup, for instance)18:12
heckjIf you have topics you'd like to discuss, please open a BP, assign it to yourself, and let me know.18:13
gyeekeystone-domains, keystone-timed-access, and access-key-authentication18:13
ayoungBut I am not going to be able to make it to the Summit18:13
gyeewhat up with the new ecosystem track18:13
gyeethat the filibuster track? :)18:13
termiei try to only filibuster individual talks, but i guess i could try for a whole track this time18:15
ayounggyee, have you read the PKI Blueprint?  I think it might complement the accessKeys,  but we should make sure we are looking at Key Pairs the same way18:15
gyeeayoung, yeah, we need a generic CRUD for key management18:16
heckjWe also need to have some discussions related to delegate trust with tokens and what we want to make available for federation18:16
gyeeall related18:17
heckjuh, what's next… ?18:17
heckj#topic High Priority issues/topics18:17
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heckjAnything here? We've covered the RC1 stuff18:18
justinsb_I'd really like to see --byname make it in https://review.openstack.org/#change,544518:18
heckjtermie: when you're through email, would you take a look at ^^18:18
heckj#topic Open Discussion18:19
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justinsb_It's in keystoneclient - not sure if that is being RC1d at the same time>18:19
heckjjustinsb_: yes, it definitely is18:19
justinsb_heckj: thx18:19
gyeeheckj, looks like tools/sampledata.sh still not working18:19
heckjAny questions, details, etc?18:19
termiewe should add a test for it18:19
rafaduranplease check #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/95695418:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 956954 in keystone "Keystone needs a URL normalizer middleware" [Low,Confirmed]18:20
heckjgyee: could you open a bug with relevant details on it?18:20
gyeewill do18:21
heckjI haven't run that one outside of devstack in a week or two, so I'm not sure what's happening there18:21
dolphmrafaduran: i'm fine with having such a middleware, but i don't think its "needed" for rc118:21
justinsb_Misc question: "should I" be using SQL to store the service directory, or should I stick with the JSON?18:21
dolphmrafaduran: it probably should be Wishlist, but it annoys me as well, so I marked it Low :)18:21
termiewe should probably switch to the sql version18:21
termiejustinsb_: but i don't want to do the testing :p18:21
heckjjustinsb_: the API is a bit freaky, but either should be fully functional. SQL version will make more sense for people, yeah18:21
rafadurandolphm: I think so too, after checking on master using devstack and I can't reproduce the error on the tcplfow18:22
ayoungtermie, should services be LDAP ified as well?18:22
dolphmtermie: justinsb_: json for essex release, sql after that?18:22
justinsb_termie: No worries.  It's one of my open issues in trying to 'package' keystone!18:22
termieayoung: i doubt it18:22
justinsb_termie: I'll try SQL and see how it goes18:22
rafadurandolphm: so it just fix the /v2.0 url18:22
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heckjdolphm: I'd like to run with that plan of attack (default = catalog for essex, change to SQL in folsom)18:22
justinsb_OK, maybe I won't try SQL then :-)18:23
dolphmrafaduran: it's not "broken" though, nothing (docs, etc) should reference /v2.0 without a trailing slash18:23
heckjjustinsb_: I'm just interested in making the docs solid for the release. The codes been worked over pretty good18:24
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justinsb_Would you rather downstream packagers used the text format or SQL?18:24
rafadurandolphm: I think in that case it can be disarded18:25
ayoungshould I take https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/92804718:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 928047 in keystone "port cert validation from keystone master to redux" [High,Confirmed]18:25
heckjayoung: nice to have, but not an RC1 blocker for me18:25
ayoungSeems like it might be important.18:25
dolphmrafaduran: i don't want to discard it, i just want to to be the first patch in folsom18:25
termieayoung: my guess is that i don't like how it is done previously, but i havne't taken a hard look at it yet18:25
rafadurandolphm: ok I will submit it for folsom18:26
dolphmrafaduran: feel free to submit it for review sooner, and -1 it with a note that it should wait for folsom18:26
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ayoungtermie, I take it we don't that need to SSL enable Keystone?18:27
termieayoung: that is using certs instead of credentials18:28
termieayoung: not ssl18:28
ayoungOK...I think I'll take a look,  and if it postdates Essex,  that is OK18:28
gyeetwo-way SSL is important if we don't want that admin token to flight in clear18:28
gyeefor token validation18:28
rafadurandolphm: I don't very much how works the git review, Do I add a comment on the commit msg? Or just comment the review after submit it?18:29
dolphmrafaduran: ping me after the meeting18:29
heckjother questions? issues? topics?18:30
dolphmheckj: can i beg for reviews again?18:31
termiedolphm: no18:31
heckjhave at :-)18:31
dolphm5 of 6 release blockers are fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#change,5358 and https://review.openstack.org/#change,548518:31
dolphmjust sayin18:31
termiemoving dolph to the back of the line18:31
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heckjOkay, I think we're wrapped up.18:31
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openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 19:01:07 2012 UTC.  The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.19:01
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mtaylor#topic OpenStack CI Stuff19:01
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LinuxJediyay :)19:01
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jeblairmtaylor: you lookin at me?19:03
mtaylorso, I'm going to try to power through - I'm finalizing some slides for a talk I'm giving in a few hours19:03
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mtaylorjeblair: which made me think - SUPER low priority - but if we're keeping our talks in slidy in git, we could actually publish them somewhere19:03
LinuxJedimtaylor: you mean you just started some slides for a talk in a few hours? ;)19:04
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mtaylorLinuxJedi: nah. not _just_ started - I am cannibalizing from some previous slides19:04
LinuxJedilol :)19:04
mtaylorLinuxJedi, devananda: not sure if we pointed either of you at it, but we have sets of slides at http://github.com/openstack-ci/publications19:05
mtaylorall in html :)19:05
LinuxJediI didn't know that, but awesome :)19:05
mtaylorSO ... status of things ... jeblair is working on devstack-gate stuff, and linuxjedi has puppet/css stuff19:06
jeblairwe should probably add a readme to make this explicit, but i feel very generous about those, i totally think people should cannibalize, reuse them, (contribute fixes!) as they see fit.19:06
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mtaylorjeblair: ++19:06
mtaylorjeblair: perhaps there's an appropriate createive commons license for that?19:06
jeblairmtaylor: i bet there is.19:06
* LinuxJedi would be surprised if there isn't19:06
mtaylorjeblair, LinuxJedi: you guys wanna tell folks about the cool stuff you've been doing?19:06
mtaylormy only status update is that I've been breaking things19:07
LinuxJedisure, who first?19:07
mtaylorand working on hiring more people so that I don't have to touch things and break them any more19:07
mtaylorLinuxJedi: you go19:07
LinuxJedimtaylor: you fixed something today!19:07
LinuxJediok, so...19:07
LinuxJedifor those who weren't here last week, I have been skinning Jenkins and Gerrit19:08
LinuxJedithe skins for this can be seen on https://jenkins-dev.openstack.org/ and https://review-dev.openstack.org/19:08
LinuxJedithis is currently pending code review and will go live ASAP19:08
mtaylorLinuxJedi: I keep meaning to look - it's parameterized such that you could use your nifty stackforge logo on stackforge jenkins/gerrit, yeah?19:09
LinuxJediIn other news... I have been working on getting puppet to automagically create jobs when given a new project name19:09
LinuxJedimtaylor: it isn't yet, because I need other things reviewed and to land first19:09
LinuxJedimtaylor: I have 4 things pending review for the puppet repo now ;)19:10
LinuxJediI have a prototype for this which seems to work and is pending review also.  It sets up all the jobs we are typically usign right now with tox19:11
LinuxJedithe final thing I have been working on is getting our puppet scripts to work with Openstack and Stackforge.  That is also pending review, and will have some extra stuff to go in once everything else lands (like a cool logo for Stackforge)19:12
mtaylorall of that will be quite sweet19:12
mtaylorI've been punching myself in the face with slides today, so I haven't gotten to fully review your new template jobs work19:12
LinuxJediI may finally get the CI docs stuff I've been putting off for the last few weeks done this week ;)19:12
mtaylorLinuxJedi: woot!19:13
mtaylorLinuxJedi: I betcha that working through some of those things with devananda will be good motivation to do that :)19:13
LinuxJedimtaylor: no worries, but I am getting to the point soon where I can't do much more puppet stuff until they land19:13
LinuxJedimtaylor: very much so19:13
mtaylorspeaking of - for those playing along at home - we're still working on getting devananda access to things, but he's going to investigate gerrit 2.3 for us once we have him some machine resources :)19:14
sorenYou can't spare him a cloud instance?19:14
mtaylorsoren: have you been following any of our chatting about driving the standard jenkins jobs for the projects from our puppet modules?19:14
LinuxJedisoren: we maxxed out mtaylor's account already ;)19:15
sorenmtaylor: I... no. I don't think so.19:15
mtaylorsoren: I just got him his own cloud account! (it just took a while)19:15
mtaylorsoren: since you also poke at things, it would be nice to get your thoughts on LinuxJedi's patch19:15
sorenmtaylor: I'm guessing the goal is to more declaratively be able to add more projets?19:16
LinuxJedisoren: https://review.openstack.org/553119:16
mtaylorsoren: yes - and to manage them long term consistently19:16
mtaylorsoren: and have those things all code reviewed :)19:16
sorenCool. I've been trying to do something similar just with Jenkins.. It's not a lot of fun.19:17
LinuxJedioh, also high up on my todo list is to knock up a quick homepage for Stackforge, I had everything ready to do that and other things got in the way :)19:17
mtaylorsoren, LinuxJedi I imagine we'll go through a couple of iterations before we get totally satisfied - but I think LinuxJedi's work thus far is a huge step towards perfection19:19
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mtaylorjeblair: how about you? wanna talk about devstack-gate?19:19
sorenmtaylor: I'm not very comfortable with it landing right now, though.19:19
sorenRelease is soon.19:19
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sorenI'd like us to wait until a couple of days after (to leave room for a potential quick point release).19:19
LinuxJedisoren: well, even when it lands it doesn't have to be live for Openstack, it can be used on Stackforge first19:19
mtaylorsoren: agree. I think it can land in the puppet repo without us actually configuring it to do things19:19
mtaylorwhat LinuxJedi said19:20
LinuxJedibut we need stackforge puppet to land before I can do that19:20
sorenThat's somewhat comforting.19:20
mtaylorstackforge is becoming really useful as a staging environment for openstack-ci :)19:20
LinuxJedihehe :)19:20
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jeblairwe've already not upgraded gerrit because of what we learned from stackforge.  :)19:20
LinuxJedioh yea, no news on the gerrit 2.2.2 performance bug (I don't expect it will be fixed with high priority).  I'm hoping 2.3 will be better19:21
sorenQuestion: We deploy a set of services and run some tests against it for gating, right? On metal?19:21
mtaylorsoren: against what?19:21
sorenI'm mostly thinking of Nova here. As I do.19:21
mtaylorah. yes19:22
sorenExactly what set of tests?19:22
jeblairwe don't test on metal anymore19:22
mtaylor(but would like to again at some point)19:22
sorenAnd if I can deliver something else against which the same set of tests passes, can we gate on that?19:22
sorenjeblair: Oh.19:22
sorenjeblair: How come?19:22
jeblairwe lost access to those machines, no one at rax stepped up to help.19:23
LinuxJediscrap metal merchants gave us a good deal19:23
mtaylorsoren: we have a new set of machines at hp19:23
mtaylorsoren: getting them bootstrapped is on my todo list19:23
sorenThese feel like stupid questions, but I don't know anymore how to find the answers myself.19:24
devanandamtaylor, might ^ be a good project for me?19:24
soren..but what is the current set of tests run before anything gets merged into Nova?19:24
jeblairunit tests(26 and 27), pep8, and devstack exercise.sh19:25
jeblairi think we're really close to adding devstack-configured tempest to that19:25
sorenSo we spin up a cloud instance, run devstack and its exercise.sh.19:25
* soren makes sure his stuff passes the same set of tests.19:26
jeblairthat's the "devstack-gate"19:26
sorenjeblair: I see no such job.19:26
jeblairsoren: https://review.openstack.org/#change,555419:26
jeblairyou can look at any merged change to nova, and see the jenkins report19:26
jeblairit will have links to all the gating jobs19:27
jeblairthe actual job is gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm.  :)19:27
LinuxJediincidentally the job that we had issues with for the RC1 release this morning ;)19:27
sorenWhere is this configured (so that I won't have to ask these silly questions another time)?19:27
mtaylordevananda: YES19:27
LinuxJedisoren: https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Gate/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/19:28
sorenLinuxJedi: Right, right. I mean..19:28
jeblairsoren: answering the question of "what are the current gating jobs for a project"?19:28
sorenI mean, how could I have determined that that was one of the jobs that would be..19:28
jeblairsoren: that's trickier.  really the easiest way is to look at the most recent merged change.19:28
sorenjeblair: Let's pretend that I wanted to add something to the list.19:28
soren(I don't, but I think this is the asnwer I'm looking for)19:29
jeblairbecause the actual answer is "whatever jobs are configured with a gerrit trigger"19:29
LinuxJedisoren: the job watches gerrit, so it is whatever jobs are watching19:29
jeblairsoren: so that's why we've been naming them with gate-19:29
LinuxJediand it isn't easy to reverse-lookup19:29
sorenIs it Jenkins that ultimately merges?19:29
sorenOr Gerrit?19:30
jeblairif you search for jobs titled "gate-nova-*" you'll get all the nova gating jobs, but devstack violates that naming convention since it watches _many_ projects.19:30
jeblairjenkins tells gerrit to merge19:30
sorenIf Gerrit, how does it know to trust (only) our Jenkins?19:30
jeblairthe jenkins user is the only one with that permission19:30
vishyjeblair / mtaylor : where and what is this stackforge thing?19:30
* soren is trying to catch up with how everything works.19:30
LinuxJedivishy: I can answer that...19:31
sorenjeblair: Ah, I see. Ok.19:31
LinuxJedivishy: stackforge is like Openstack Jenkins/Gerrit but for satellite type projects19:31
sorenjeblair: Cool. Thanks.19:31
devanandasoren, this is a good discussion for me as well, I'm still learning all these interdependencies ...19:31
jeblairsoren: i think that's great.  we could probably use an updated set of "here's the design philosophy for the system" type docs.  we've been very focused on operational ones.19:31
LinuxJedivishy: currently only one project on it, a second coming very soon19:31
vishyLinuxJedi: where is it?19:31
LinuxJedivishy: jenkins.stackforge.org and review.stackforge.org19:32
LinuxJedivishy: I'm hopefully creating a homepage for it this week and there are other subdomains to come19:32
LinuxJedivishy: RedDwarf is next to go on it19:32
vishyMRaaS nice19:32
LinuxJedivishy: we are also using it to test things like Gerrit 2.2.2 before it goes to Openstack19:33
LinuxJediand we are using puppet master there instead of invoking with cron19:33
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jeblairso here's what i was up to last week: https://review.openstack.org/#change,548119:35
jeblairthat updates the devstack gate job to change the way we build the devstack vm images19:35
jeblairand adds support for multiple image versions and providers19:35
jeblairso we should be ready to handle things like "run this branch on precise, and this branch on oneiric" if that comes up19:36
jeblairand we now have accounts in rackspace legacy, the rackspace nova beta-test system, and hpcloud19:36
jeblairso next up is getting devstack nodes in all three of those providers19:36
jeblairwe'll use all of them all the time, and we'll effectively have an HA system19:37
soren"devstack nodes"?19:37
jeblairso if one fails, we'll continue using nodes from others.19:37
jeblairsoren: throwaway vms that are booted, have devstack installed and run on them, run exercise.sh (and soon tempest), then deleted.19:38
vishyjeblair: that would be awesome19:38
jeblairwe boot them ahead of time and maintain a pool of them that are ready for immediate use by the test scripts.19:38
vishyjeblair: so tired of devstack gate blow up because raxcloud is borked19:38
sorenOh, gotcha. I misunderstood. Thought you meant we'd have some sort of persistent thing called "devstack nodes" at each provider.19:38
jeblairvishy: yes, and pvo and i are both excited about helping to test an actual nova deployment.  :)19:39
jeblairsoren: nope, though we do generate images...19:39
jeblairthat have all of the .debs, python packages, test images, and code repos cached ahead of time19:40
jeblairso that we minimize network dependencies and startup time19:40
sorenDoes the OpenStack cloud at RAX let you upload your own images?19:40
* soren hasn't been blessed with an account19:40
jeblairi don't know, but rackspace legacy and hpcloud both don't, so we have to work with that.19:41
jeblairinstead, the scripts start with a provider base image, cache everything, then take a snapshot.19:41
sorenSo what /do/ you build images for?19:41
jeblairthen we spin up the nodes from that snapshot19:41
jeblairso the challenge for me this week is that there is no single library that can work with all three providers19:42
pvosoren: not yet.19:42
jeblairnovaclient works with hpcloud and rax-nova, but not rax-legacy19:42
jeblairlibcloud works with rax-legacy and (trunk version:) rax-nova, but not hpcloud19:42
pvojeblair: it sorta works… not 100% though19:42
pvoI can get to do some basic things19:43
jeblairpvo: novaclient and rax-legacy?19:43
pvojeblair: yea, I can get it to sorta work.19:44
jeblairoh, i didn't think it worked at all after they removed the v1_0 stuff.19:44
vishyjeblair: the old python-openstack-compute code works19:45
vishyjeblair: I use that when I'm talking to legacy19:45
mtaylorvishy: yeah - problem is wanting to have one script which talks to all three19:45
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jeblairwe need to list images, sizes, and machines; boot machines; create an image from a running machine; and delete machines19:47
vishymtaylor: patch legacy compatibility back into novaclient :)19:48
jeblairvishy: i actually looked into that19:48
jeblairi'm not sure it ever supported creating an image19:48
chmoueljeblair: yeah it did19:49
sorenIf it's the thing based on jacobian's thing, then it did.19:49
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mtaylorvishy: I poked bcwaldon a while back about adding support back in19:49
jeblairchmouel: cool; did it have a different name than the method used in 1.1?19:49
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chmoueljeblair: let me check19:50
jeblairi saw the "backup" method, but that seemed to be about setting backup schedules, not immediately creating a named image...19:50
chmoueljeblair: just the standard create https://github.com/chmouel/python-cloudservers/blob/master/cloudservers/images.py#L3919:50
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jeblairoh. of course.19:51
jeblairit's on the image class. :)19:51
jeblairservers.create_image exists in 1.1, so i assumed if 1.0 had it, it would be something similar19:52
jeblairokay, so novaclient is back on the menu.  :)19:52
jeblairi could add 1.0 support back in and see if that works with all three.19:52
jeblairor i can work on getting libcloud to work with hpcloud (and rax-nova if further work is needed)19:52
mtaylorthat would get novaclient inline with what we've talked about for it moving foward - which is that it should just know how to talk to openstack clouds19:52
chmouelwe probably need just a python-cloudservers with custom auth url if novaclient doesn't want 1.0 support19:53
* mtaylor thinks it would be way more friendly if novaclient could do it without killing people19:53
jeblairchmouel: well, i don't want to use two libraries to talk to all our providers19:53
jeblair(i mean, we can already do that today with libcloud and novaclient if we wanted to)19:53
mtaylorjeblair: I vote on getting buy on on adding 1.0 support to novaclient ... and if that's a non-starter, then fix libcloud19:54
chmouelok make sense19:54
mtaylor(we should make our own tools kickass where we can)19:54
jeblairi agree19:54
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jeblairthat was very helpful, thanks chmouel, vishy, pvo.19:55
LinuxJedianything else before we hit the hour?19:55
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mtaylorthanks everybody! that was super helpful19:56
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jk0no ppb today I take it?20:04
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devcamcardont think i heard one way or another20:05
devcamcarbut it appears there is not one20:05
pvoI didn't see anything20:05
ttxno confirmation, no meeting :)20:05
ttxRelease/Project meeting starts in 55min20:05
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ttxheckj, notmyname, jaypipes, vishy/anotherjesse, devcamcar: around ?21:00
ohnoimdead<- filling in for devcamcar \o21:00
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vishyi'm lurking21:01
* glenc is not all here21:01
ttxvishy: is anotherjesse filling in for you ?21:01
jaypipesttx: here21:02
ttxok, let's start then, should be a quick one21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 21:02:30 2012 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.21:02
ttxToday's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting (nothing special)21:02
ttx#topic Keystone status21:02
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ttxheckj: o/21:03
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc121:03
vishyttx: I will attempt to do it if i can jump out of my meeting21:03
ttx5 bugs left21:03
ttxvishy: ack21:03
heckjEveryone else is ahead, but we've made (and continue to make) good progress. Down to 5 bugs left, in progress on all.21:03
ttxLooks like most of them will be fixed by the unexpected exceptions wrap change21:03
heckjWe're hoping to be able to cut RC1 in the next day or two.21:04
heckjttx: yep - many are wrapped in there21:04
ttxthe other one is bug 932258, which is also proposed for review.21:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 932258 in keystone "Role names should be globally unique and required" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93225821:04
ttxheckj: Are we missing anything critical in this RC list ?21:04
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heckjttx: not that we're aware of at this time. Additional testing will be needed with RC1 (obviously), but per the keystone meeting this morning we're lookin' pretty good21:05
dolphm4 of the 5 are covered by review 5358, the last one by https://review.openstack.org/#change,548521:05
ttx4 bugs suggested on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential21:05
* soren has one that probably should've been marked rc potential21:05
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dolphmsoren: link?21:05
heckjsoren: let me know which one21:05
sorenLooking for it..21:06
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/952977 ?21:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 952977 in keystone "Can't fetch EC2 credentials" [High,In progress]21:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed]21:06
sorenOh,got triaged while I wasn't looking.21:06
heckjtagged against RC1 already21:06
russellbi'd put https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/938801 on rc-potential.  not critical, but the code doesn't work at all otherwise21:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 938801 in keystone "ImportError on pam - different naming in distros vs python package" [Medium,In progress]21:06
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ttxheckj: actually bug 959294 is not targeted against RC121:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95929421:07
heckjttx: I meant the previous one - lag in typing21:07
heckjrusselb: done21:07
russellbheckj: rockin, thanks21:08
ttxheckj: should we RC1ify 959294 ? or put it on essex-rc-potential ?21:08
heckjI'll link it into potential21:08
heckjIf anyone thinks it should block, holler now21:09
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ttxheckj: not being able to delete users sounds bad to me21:10
jaypipeswait, which specific bug is in question?21:10
annegentleheckj: it was often brought up as a problem (not being able to delete users)21:10
heckjttx: be clear - do you think it should block the release?21:10
ttxjaypipes: bug 95929421:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95929421:10
heckjjaypipes: bug 95929421:10
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ttxheckj: IMO yes21:11
jaypipesyeah, not being able to delete users is a major issue...21:11
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heckjOkay - I'm good with that21:11
dolphmi'll pick it up21:12
ttxheckj: so like you said, we are still one or two days away from Keystone RC121:12
ttxheckj: We'll make a daily status update in your mornings/my evenings to keep the thing under control21:13
sorenIt /seems/ like a reasonably simple fix (I've spent all of 7 seconds looking at the code, so obviously I can make that determination).21:13
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heckjdolphm: thanks - logged and assigned21:13
ttxheckj: and do RC1 as soon as it stops moving21:13
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heckjsoren: patches always welcome!21:13
heckjttx: yep, ready to whack it with a machete21:13
ttxheckj: anything else ?21:14
heckjnot from me. Questions on Keystone?21:14
heckjWe have doc updats pendind (formal and informal) - have been focused on RC1 issues first21:14
ttxheckj: we are in much better shape today that yesterday :)21:15
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ttx#topic Swift status21:15
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:16
notmynameyay swift21:16
ttxnotmyname: So we have an 1.4.8 proposed candidate up for testing21:16
notmynamethat is correct21:16
ttxwhich we hope to release on Thursday.21:16
notmynamewe should have a go/nogo tomorrow for a formal release on the 22nd21:16
notmynameat least that's the plan :-)21:16
notmynameDaviey: no new features (client-facing) in 1.4.821:17
ttxthis week is one of /those/ weeks21:17
ttxSince there is no such thing as a bug in Swift, i won't ask if anybody has found a critical bug in 1.4.821:18
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ttx(but if you did, you should speak up now before it's too late)21:18
ttxnotmyname: Anything else ?21:18
notmynameno, not from me21:19
ttxQuestions on Swift ? anyone ?21:19
sorenNot a question, just a clarification:21:19
annegentlewhat's the decision from packaging for 1.4.7 vs 1.4.821:19
sorenWhether the features are client-facing or not is not the issue for Ubuntu.21:19
ttxannegentle: Essex will be 1.4.821:20
sorenIt's simply about the fact that new features might introduce regressions.21:20
ttx(or 1.4.8 will be Essex).21:20
sorenUser-facing features have more problems, but any feature counts in terms of feature freeze. Strictly speaking.21:20
notmynamesoren: you can see the changelog for 1.4.8 here https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/CHANGELOG21:20
annegentlethere are CLI changes in that CHANGELOG21:21
notmynameno major features (like object versioning). a few minor updates21:21
notmynamelots of bugs21:21
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ttxwe won't make the decision for the Ubuntu release team between 1.4.7 and
sorenI (intentionally) didn't go looking. I just wanted to clarify. :)21:22
notmynameannegentle: the release after 1.4.6 was intended to be our essex release (and released this week). we had something come up that made us want to cut a release earlier. that was 1.4.7. which gives us 1.4.8 this week21:22
sorenNot saying 1.4.8 poses a problem.21:22
ttxsoren: they migth require an FFe if they really want
ttxbut it sounds doable.21:23
ttxannegentle: does that answer your question ?21:23
annegentlettx: yes21:23
notmynameI wonder what they would do if we hadn't release 1.4.7 early21:23
ttxnotmyname: can we move to Glance ?21:24
notmynameunless there are more questions21:24
ttxdoesn't seem so. So without further ado...21:25
ttx#topic Glance status21:25
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ttxjaypipes: yo21:25
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc121:25
ttxSo Glance is ready for RC1!21:25
heckjDolphm! Weren't you supposed to be logging hundreds of extra bugs so we could beat glance!?! :-)21:26
jaypipesttx: yes21:26
ttxUnless someone has a surprise critical issue to suggest21:26
ttxSpeak now (or forever hold your peace).21:26
jog0not critical but was hoping to get this in: https://review.openstack.org/#change,554821:27
jog0its a user pointing doc cleanup21:27
bcwaldonyes, should get that in21:27
jaypipesjog0: essex-rc-potential21:27
jaypipesjog0: could you add a bug for tracking it>21:28
dolphmheckj: =(21:28
jog0jaypipes: sure21:28
jaypipesjog0: cheers21:28
ttx3 bugs suggested on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential21:28
ttx(soon 4)21:28
ttxIncluding one "high" under investigation: bug 95552721:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 955527 in glance "copy_from test case logic is invalid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95552721:28
ttxjaypipes: will ping you at the end of the meeting so that we get the branches cut, and will publish RC1 tomorrow morning21:29
jaypipesttx: that one is actively being worked on. eglynn__ thinks it has to do with Amazon S3's write (lack of) guarantees21:29
annegentleWhat are the ramifications for 944946? does it mean no images stored in swift?21:29
jaypipesannegentle: have to work with chmouel on that one.21:29
annegentlebug 94494621:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 944946 in glance "Glance does not support auth server implementing 2.0 auth (ie: for Swift+Keystone)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94494621:29
jaypipesannegentle: it's slipped in priority, but I'd like to get it resolved21:30
annegentlejaypipes: but what does it mean? :)21:30
jaypipesannegentle:  in RC2.21:30
jaypipesannegentle: I think some of it is doc-related and some of it may need a slight change to the swift driver in Glance.21:30
jaypipesannegentle: but I still need to understand it better from chmouel21:30
ttxjaypipes: Anything else ?21:31
annegentlejaypipes: ah, ok, understood.21:31
ttxOther questions on Glance ?21:31
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ttx#topic Nova status21:32
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ttxvishy: hey21:32
ttxNova RC1 was published earlier today21:32
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/essex/essex-rc121:32
ttxPlease take this one for a ride and file bugs.21:33
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ttxBugs that you think should be fixed before release should be tagged "essex-rc-potential"21:33
ttx10 bugs suggested so far at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential21:34
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ttxIncluding a critical one, so I suppose we'll have to respin the RC in the next few days21:34
ttxvishy: anything you wanted to mention ?21:34
jog0https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/957708 ?21:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 957708 in nova "Invalid cidr in security group create raises "ERROR: local variable 'ip' referenced before assignment (HTTP 400)"" [Low,Fix committed]21:34
heckjttx: re-release of rc1, or move to an rc2?21:35
ttxjog0: this one will probably be picked up by RC2 when the critical bug will be fixed21:35
ttxheckj: rc221:35
* heckj nods21:35
vishyttx: only recommending that people focus on docs/testing rather than going crazy pushing stuff into folsom21:35
ttxheckj: "respinning the rc" involves incrementing its number21:35
heckjah, very good21:36
vishyttx: i will write an email to the list to that effect21:36
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ttxvishy: ok21:36
jog0ttx:  but hasn't master branch moved on to folsom?21:37
heckjjog0: I don't think any of them should until we've cut a full release21:37
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jog0heckj: https://review.openstack.org/#change,555421:37
ttxjog0: yes. Bugfixes land in master branch first, then get backported to milestone-proposed branch (that contains the RCs)21:37
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gabrielhurleyttx: who should be responsible for that backport?21:38
jog0gabrielhurley: +121:38
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ttxgabrielhurley: once the bug is targeted and the new RC milestone opened, the PTL usually does it, but the author can help21:39
gabrielhurleyttx: got it. so there will be a new RC milestone opened, then?21:39
gabrielhurley(hasn't happened for horizon)21:40
ttxgabrielhurley: when a new RC is deemed inevitable yes21:40
gabrielhurleyk. thanks.21:40
jog0ttx: why open Folsom up at all?  If you want people to focus on Essex still?21:40
ttxjog0: because we don't want to block development too long21:41
ttxjog0: also only non-disruptive bugfixes can land in the release branch now21:42
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jog0ttx: even though the Folsom summit is almost a month away?21:42
ttxjog0: yes. Future evolutions might include development branches that are always open.21:43
ttxjog0: that's how we decided to do it.. last design summit. We can revisit that next month :)21:43
ttxvishy: Anything else ?21:43
ttxOther questions on Nova ?21:43
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jog0ttx: thanks.  I still think opening Folsom risks producing a lower quality Essex release as more people start Folsom21:44
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ttxjog0: not totally sure of that. I think doing it at RC1 is a good trade-off21:44
ttxpeople not caring about the release just don't care about the release, frozen branch or not21:45
russellbreality is, if people want to focus on folsom, they will ...21:45
ttx#topic Horizon status21:45
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russellbpatches just won't show up until a bit later, doesn't mean it wasn't being worked on21:45
russellbIMO anyway :)21:45
ttxohnoimdead: o/21:45
ttxHorizon RC1 was published earlier today.21:45
ohnoimdeadrc1 dropped yo!21:45
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/essex/essex-rc121:45
jog0ttx:  right perhaps a ML email will let people know to target the RC1 branch to back  port21:45
ohnoimdeadlike a dubstep bassline21:45
ttxSame comments as for Nova: test and file "essex-rc-potential"-tagged bugs21:46
ohnoimdeadwe've got a few bugs tagged essex-rc-potential which are mostly nice to have21:46
ttxjog0: they should actually continue to fix bugs in master, and tag them essex-rc-potential if they want them taken in consideration21:47
ttxohnoimdead: 14 bugs suggested so far at https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential21:47
ttxhmm, 10 now21:47
gabrielhurleyttx: that's 10 now21:47
gabrielhurleyjust did a triage pass about half an hour ago21:47
ttxAlso already including a critical one :) so looks like you'll have an RC2 too21:47
ohnoimdeadyeah, gabrielhurley cleaned that up a bit21:48
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ttxohnoimdead: Anything else you wanted to mention ?21:48
ohnoimdeadttx: just to get help from other folks in the community with testing. horizon is downstream of everything so we often expose hard-to-find bugs in underlying services21:48
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gabrielhurleyI'm not ohnoimdead, but I'd like to mention we could really use some more translators. We've only got two languages out of our previous 6 translated right now.21:49
ohnoimdeadgabrielhurley: +121:49
ttx#help Horizon could really use some more translators. We've only got two languages out of our previous 6 translated right now.21:49
ttxOther questions/remarks on Horizon ?21:49
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ttx#topic Incubated projects and other Team reports21:50
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ttxbhall, troytoman: yo21:50
ttxdanwent is away, said that Quantum RC1 is out, please test !21:50
ttxbhall: anything you wanted to mention ?21:50
bhallthat's it.. thanks :)21:50
ttxtroytoman-away: are you really away ?21:51
jkoelkertroytoman's in a meeting, all quiet on the melange front21:51
ttxjkoelker: I need to talk to him about doing an RC1 for Melange at some point21:51
ttxbut will do PM21:51
jkoelkerI think we are good to go21:51
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ?21:52
jkoelkerwe havn't had a bug in a while crop up21:52
ttxannegentle: docs?21:52
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annegentlettx: definitely need config docs as specified by the doc bugs I mentioned last meeting and to the ML today21:52
annegentleappreciate all the doc patches the last couple of weeks21:52
annegentleconfiguration is a beast21:52
ttxannegentle: hopefullt with RC1 out of the way more focus will go to docs21:52
annegentleI'm laser focused on having good release docs21:53
ttxalso less changes should help21:53
annegentledocs.openstack.org now points to /trunk, so please review, test, fix doc bugs21:53
annegentlettx: agreed21:53
ttxannegentle: anything else ?21:54
annegentlehopefully the Identity API docs can also get some lovin' soon21:54
annegentlethat's it from docs land.21:54
heckjannegentle: yeps! Needs it quite a bit right now. Very confusing to write for it21:54
ttx#topic Open discussion21:54
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ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:55
ozstackerHi all, Tristan here, organizer from the Australian User Group with a question to the project leads... I know it's a busy time and it'd be a late night gig but am wondering if any of you would be available to do a short talk about your project to our user group in Sydney early (very early actually) next week?21:55
ttxNice proposals coming in for the summit21:55
bcwaldonozstacker: flying people in?21:56
ttxozstacker: timing is a bit suboptimal, it's money time around here :)21:56
ozstackerIf I could I would... via WebEx21:56
ttxah. WebEx.21:56
ozstackeryeah no problem I understand21:56
ozstackerI have alternatives arranged so no stress if no can do21:57
bcwaldonozstacker: not sure you'll get commitment in this meeting, you might want to follow up offline21:57
ttxozstacker: maybe use email to contact the persons you're interested in directly21:57
ozstackerok will do21:57
ttxand on those good words...21:58
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 20 21:58:07 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:58
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ttxThanks everyone21:58
bcwaldonttx: thank you!21:58
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bhallhey everyone.. danwent has jury duty today so I'll be filling in22:01
davlapshi folks!22:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 22:02:20 2012 UTC.  The chair is bhall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.22:02
bhallshould be a short one today22:02
somikhello all!22:02
bhallagenda is here: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings22:02
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bhall#topic rc122:03
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bhallEssex-RC1 is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc122:03
debo-osobservations: more people are saying hello whjen danW is not around22:03
bhallwe'll see if he reads the logs afterwards, eh?22:03
bhallso.. Essex-RC1 is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc122:03
bhallplease test22:03
bhalltry it out.. find bugs and file them, etc22:03
bhallthe distros are working on packaging22:03
SumitNaiksatamHi all!22:04
bhallat this point it looks like debian is getting close (thanks Ghe!)22:04
bhallFedora is also coming along22:04
bhall#topic priorities on folsom22:04
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bhalldan kindly encourages every one to respond to the mailing list thread regarding priorities for folsom22:05
edgarmaganaufff.. what a topic!22:05
bhallplease respond with your ideas if you haven't already22:05
bhall#topic priorities for folsom22:05
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SumitNaiksatamtaking bets now: who types faster, brad or dan! :-)22:05
debo-os1) scalability22:05
bhallSumitNaiksatam: oh, I type much faster :)22:05
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bhalldebo-os: respond to the mailing list ;)22:05
debo-osi was the 1st to respond to dan's thread22:06
jlm^2) Stability ?  :)22:06
bhalljlm^: yeah, that'd be nice too22:06
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wwkeyboard3) plugins, in or out? :)22:07
SumitNaiksatami think these are better defined/targeted with some specific goals in mind, otherwise very opended22:07
bhallwwkeyboard: that's a good one as well22:08
bhallSumitNaiksatam: yeah, agreed22:09
cdubwwkeyboard: what do you mean by in or out?22:09
wwkeyboardbhall: I have some more ideas for the list, I just think that needs to be settleed soon22:09
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wwkeyboardcdub: I'll explain in an email to the list, it will take more discussion that can/should be covered right now22:10
cdubheh, ok, np22:10
bhallwwkeyboard: I know there has been some talk about it on the mailing list.. I think a proposal would be great (separate repository, each in its own repository, etc)22:10
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bhall#topic devstack exercise script review22:11
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bhalldevstack exercise script review: https://review.openstack.org/#change,466522:11
bhallwould be nice to get some more eyes on that22:11
edgarmaganabhall: working on that!22:11
debo-osok .... I put changes asked by Dean22:11
bhalledgarmagana: great, thanks22:11
debo-osI oculdnt keep him happy on 1 front ....22:11
debo-osit needs mysql to query quantum network uuids22:11
debo-ossince the cli output is not as well formatted as in nova cli22:12
debo-osdanwent has a bug to track22:12
debo-osto fix CLIs22:12
debo-oswe originally thought we would fix devstack after the CLI22:12
anotherjessedebo-os: nova cli is painful22:12
anotherjessewe need to switch to tabs and make it easy to script22:13
vishyanotherjesse: yes plz22:13
debo-osquantum output is not even on a single line22:13
bhallyeah, both of the CLIs need to be more easily parseable22:13
anotherjessebhall: folsom ftw22:13
vishybhall: I feel like that defeats the purpose of an exercise22:13
vishybhall: as in it should be a straight through flow so it is easy to understand how to use the cli22:13
vishybhall: perhaps it should be broken up into a few different exercises?22:14
bhallsure.. but I'll let debo/davelaps take tha tone22:14
debo-osvishy: the quantum exercise is just one file but is broken up into different tests22:14
debo-oseach test can be separately triggered22:14
vishydebo-os: yeah i understand, basically the idea of exercise scripts are to demonstrate how to use the command line22:15
debo-osoh got it22:15
vishydebo-os: so that a user could copy and paste commands from the script22:15
debo-osfrom that perspective mysql is also a cmd line ;)22:15
vishydebo-os: we have a very small number of helpers for the exercises where it is just too painful ( like get_field)22:15
vishydebo-os: and die22:15
vishydebo-os: it would be awesome to look at the quantum exercise and see how to create a quantum network and put an instance in it in one simple flow...22:16
vishydebo-os: I don't get that out of the current script, I have to follow method calls etc.22:16
debo-osvishy: I think it does that22:16
debo-osok I can do 2 things22:16
debo-os1 full blown exercise and 1 quantum-lite22:17
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debo-osin fact the 1st version which you had reviewed it was like that :)22:17
debo-osone single flow22:17
debo-osthx for all the feedback .... will do all this ...22:18
debo-osshould be done in a day22:18
davlapsvishy: you can blame me for the functions. i thought it made it easier to see how to do each task.22:18
bhall#action debo-os to refactor quantum exercise script22:18
davlapsdebo-os: i'm happy to help out with the refactoring..22:18
bhallok.. anything else on the exercise script?22:18
bhall#topic summit22:19
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bhallanyone still trying to get into dev summit can get on waitlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dE1qYkI4ck5KY2NHd0o5c0k4d1hHeHc6MQ#gid=022:19
bhallhopefully everyone already registered..22:19
bhallok.. moving on22:20
bhall#topic open discussion22:20
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bhallanyone have anything they want to talk about?22:20
wwkeyboardIs anyone here using melange with quantum? I found a bug that may cause an inconvinence.22:21
bhallwwkeyboard: we do.. do you have a bug filed already?22:21
wwkeyboardI haven't filed it yet, and if noone is using it I'll just merge in the fix22:21
cdubbhall: I think the fallout from https://github.com/openstack/quantum/commit/c6e1c616ad2ad3949b7bec36233d7aac885922c4 is understood at this point22:22
cdubbhall: but do you have an opinion on setup.py using scripts vs console_scripts?22:22
bhallwwkeyboard: ok, sounds good22:22
bhallcdub: I just want us to do what the other projects do22:23
wwkeyboardOk, then I'll write it up. but if you look in the interfaces table you'll see device_id contains integer IDs instead of UUIDS22:23
wwkeyboardthis was recently fixed, but there is no migration.22:23
bhallit sounds like you asked monty to go chase down the ptl's and figure out what the direction is22:23
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cdubbhall: yeah22:23
cduband we have interim workaround for fedora22:23
SumitNaiksatamquestion for davlaps: with regards to the tty image with multiple interfaces that you are pointing to now in devstack, does it get a DHCP IP address for multiple interfaces, or only for the default interface (eth0)?22:23
davlapsSumitNaiksatam: for multiple interfaces..22:24
bhallcdub: ok, good.  hopefully we'll get that all sorted out soon22:24
bhallwwkeyboard: does this require any quantum manager (melange ipam lib or connection) changes?22:24
SumitNaiksatamdavlaps: thanks...ok, in our setup only one interface was getting the IP, and the others were getting if we manually initiated udhcpc, so just wondering what was going awry22:25
wwkeyboardI can't see where that field is used yet, but I'm using it to fix filtering by IPs22:25
bhallwwkeyboard: ok, good22:25
davlapsSumitNaiksatam: np. using quantum.sh script you should see all interface come up with ips..22:26
bhallSumitNaiksatam: that seems to be how the normal tty-linux image works.. are you seeing that with the tty-quantum image?22:26
SumitNaiksatambhall: yes22:26
SumitNaiksatambhall/davlaps: thats what I was trying to get confirmation on22:27
bhallSumitNaiksatam: ok, I'll try it out today and see what happens in my setup22:27
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SumitNaiksatambhall/davlaps: thanks!22:27
bhallok.. anyone have anything else?22:28
bhallok.. see ya'll next week22:29
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