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annegentle | ogelbukh: I was hoping someone else would review, but I'm ok with merging it. Can you rebase against trunk? It has moved a bit. | 14:48 |
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annegentle | once I see the Patch Set 3 as rebased I'll approve | 14:48 |
annegentle | ogelbukh: sorry for such a delay. | 14:48 |
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ogelbukh | annegentle: thanks a lot, will be there soon | 14:54 |
GheRivero | hi, can someone unbanned me from #openstack and #openstack-dev? Thnx | 14:58 |
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dolphm | how'd you get banned? | 15:03 |
dolphm | GheRivero: ^ | 15:03 |
GheRivero | some time ago, i was testing ipv6 connectivity with sixxs, and due to continuous connections/disconnections i got banned | 15:04 |
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heckj | morning morning! | 18:02 |
ayoung | \O/ | 18:02 |
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heckj | WHo's here for Keystone 0/ | 18:02 |
rafaduran | me | 18:02 |
heckj | #startmeeting | 18:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 18:02:44 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:02 |
dolphm | o/ | 18:02 |
gyee | \o | 18:03 |
termie | o; | 18:03 |
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heckj | heh | 18:03 |
heckj | #topic RC1 status | 18:03 |
ayoung | \O/ | 18:03 |
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heckj | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 18:03 |
heckj | We're closing in on things, and having termie back from sxsw should help a bit :-) | 18:04 |
heckj | Bug 952977 is still outstanding - I tried helping Andrew with it a bit yesterday, but didn't make much progress against it (helping him) | 18:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 952977 in keystone "Can't fetch EC2 credentials" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952977 | 18:04 |
heckj | Andrew are you here? | 18:04 |
dolphm | heckj: based on the bug description, that is impacted (and maaaybe fixed) by https://review.openstack.org/#change,5358 | 18:05 |
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ayoung | Does KVS support EC2? | 18:05 |
dolphm | but i'm not sure if the bug is asking for a better error message or a totally different behavior | 18:05 |
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ayoung | Or is Devstack using MySQL now\ | 18:06 |
termie | devstack uses sql | 18:06 |
heckj | There are a couple of other issues that will likely populate into RC1 when we get details back - using EC2 commands against a devstack instance | 18:06 |
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heckj | Dolphm - how's the status of your bugs in progress? Any assistance needed? | 18:06 |
dolphm | heckj: just need some reviews, approvals, and a -2 cleared | 18:07 |
dolphm | review/approval needed: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5358 | 18:07 |
dolphm | jesse is blocking https://review.openstack.org/#change,5485 which i don't think is necessary anymore | 18:07 |
termie | re that bug you just linked, abotu ec2 creds, it seems like it needs a better error message | 18:07 |
termie | but that behavior is expected | 18:07 |
heckj | block isn't needed anymore - so we'll find him and get it cleared | 18:07 |
dolphm | termie: then my review fixes it | 18:08 |
heckj | excellent | 18:08 |
anotherjesse | dolphm: I can unblock | 18:08 |
dolphm | anotherjesse: thank you | 18:08 |
dolphm | and i'm not sure what's going on here (i pinged jeblair, no response): https://review.openstack.org/#change,5314 | 18:08 |
dolphm | and thats 6 of the remaining 8 keystone bugs :) | 18:08 |
dolphm | RC blockers, anyway | 18:08 |
heckj | Is anyone aware of any other bugs or issues outstanding that might be coming in for RC1 blockers? | 18:09 |
dolphm | i'm not | 18:09 |
heckj | termie submitted a patch for the CONF related pieces, so those are in progress. MarkMC's conf refactoring is therefore on hold and not likely to roll in prior to Folsom at this point | 18:10 |
termie | or ever | 18:10 |
termie | possibly ;) | 18:10 |
heckj | heh | 18:10 |
termie | that's still an email to read on my list | 18:10 |
* heckj nods | 18:10 | |
heckj | #topic folsom summit | 18:10 |
*** openstack changes topic to "folsom summit" | 18:11 | |
heckj | switching topics - | 18:11 |
heckj | gyee mentioned the other day a couple of issues to chat about at folsom | 18:11 |
heckj | with RC1 closing down a bit, I'll be focusing on getting things set up for the summit. | 18:11 |
gyee | we have 3 BPs up for discussion | 18:11 |
heckj | #link http://summit.openstack.org is available to submit talks within - I'm going to try and organize a few design pieces up front, and a later session specifically around deployment issues. | 18:12 |
gyee | which track should they go to? | 18:12 |
termie | gyee: link to bps? | 18:12 |
heckj | gyee: keystone track, but some of that will be impactful enough that we'll want to sync any conversation across all of openstack to make it viable (the domain setup, for instance) | 18:12 |
heckj | If you have topics you'd like to discuss, please open a BP, assign it to yourself, and let me know. | 18:13 |
ayoung | http://wiki.openstack.org/PKI | 18:13 |
gyee | keystone-domains, keystone-timed-access, and access-key-authentication | 18:13 |
ayoung | But I am not going to be able to make it to the Summit | 18:13 |
gyee | what up with the new ecosystem track | 18:13 |
gyee | that the filibuster track? :) | 18:13 |
dolphm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone | 18:13 |
termie | i try to only filibuster individual talks, but i guess i could try for a whole track this time | 18:15 |
ayoung | gyee, have you read the PKI Blueprint? I think it might complement the accessKeys, but we should make sure we are looking at Key Pairs the same way | 18:15 |
gyee | ayoung, yeah, we need a generic CRUD for key management | 18:16 |
heckj | We also need to have some discussions related to delegate trust with tokens and what we want to make available for federation | 18:16 |
gyee | all related | 18:17 |
heckj | uh, what's next… ? | 18:17 |
heckj | #topic High Priority issues/topics | 18:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "High Priority issues/topics" | 18:17 | |
heckj | Anything here? We've covered the RC1 stuff | 18:18 |
dolphm | reviews! | 18:18 |
justinsb_ | I'd really like to see --byname make it in https://review.openstack.org/#change,5445 | 18:18 |
heckj | termie: when you're through email, would you take a look at ^^ | 18:18 |
heckj | #topic Open Discussion | 18:19 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion" | 18:19 | |
justinsb_ | It's in keystoneclient - not sure if that is being RC1d at the same time> | 18:19 |
heckj | justinsb_: yes, it definitely is | 18:19 |
justinsb_ | heckj: thx | 18:19 |
gyee | heckj, looks like tools/sampledata.sh still not working | 18:19 |
heckj | Any questions, details, etc? | 18:19 |
termie | we should add a test for it | 18:19 |
rafaduran | please check #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/956954 | 18:20 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 956954 in keystone "Keystone needs a URL normalizer middleware" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:20 |
heckj | gyee: could you open a bug with relevant details on it? | 18:20 |
gyee | will do | 18:21 |
heckj | I haven't run that one outside of devstack in a week or two, so I'm not sure what's happening there | 18:21 |
dolphm | rafaduran: i'm fine with having such a middleware, but i don't think its "needed" for rc1 | 18:21 |
justinsb_ | Misc question: "should I" be using SQL to store the service directory, or should I stick with the JSON? | 18:21 |
dolphm | rafaduran: it probably should be Wishlist, but it annoys me as well, so I marked it Low :) | 18:21 |
termie | we should probably switch to the sql version | 18:21 |
termie | justinsb_: but i don't want to do the testing :p | 18:21 |
heckj | justinsb_: the API is a bit freaky, but either should be fully functional. SQL version will make more sense for people, yeah | 18:21 |
rafaduran | dolphm: I think so too, after checking on master using devstack and I can't reproduce the error on the tcplfow | 18:22 |
ayoung | termie, should services be LDAP ified as well? | 18:22 |
dolphm | termie: justinsb_: json for essex release, sql after that? | 18:22 |
justinsb_ | termie: No worries. It's one of my open issues in trying to 'package' keystone! | 18:22 |
termie | ayoung: i doubt it | 18:22 |
justinsb_ | termie: I'll try SQL and see how it goes | 18:22 |
rafaduran | dolphm: so it just fix the /v2.0 url | 18:22 |
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heckj | dolphm: I'd like to run with that plan of attack (default = catalog for essex, change to SQL in folsom) | 18:22 |
justinsb_ | OK, maybe I won't try SQL then :-) | 18:23 |
dolphm | rafaduran: it's not "broken" though, nothing (docs, etc) should reference /v2.0 without a trailing slash | 18:23 |
heckj | justinsb_: I'm just interested in making the docs solid for the release. The codes been worked over pretty good | 18:24 |
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justinsb_ | Would you rather downstream packagers used the text format or SQL? | 18:24 |
rafaduran | dolphm: I think in that case it can be disarded | 18:25 |
ayoung | should I take https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/928047 | 18:25 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 928047 in keystone "port cert validation from keystone master to redux" [High,Confirmed] | 18:25 |
heckj | ayoung: nice to have, but not an RC1 blocker for me | 18:25 |
ayoung | Seems like it might be important. | 18:25 |
dolphm | rafaduran: i don't want to discard it, i just want to to be the first patch in folsom | 18:25 |
termie | ayoung: my guess is that i don't like how it is done previously, but i havne't taken a hard look at it yet | 18:25 |
rafaduran | dolphm: ok I will submit it for folsom | 18:26 |
dolphm | rafaduran: feel free to submit it for review sooner, and -1 it with a note that it should wait for folsom | 18:26 |
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ayoung | termie, I take it we don't that need to SSL enable Keystone? | 18:27 |
termie | ayoung: that is using certs instead of credentials | 18:28 |
termie | ayoung: not ssl | 18:28 |
ayoung | OK...I think I'll take a look, and if it postdates Essex, that is OK | 18:28 |
gyee | two-way SSL is important if we don't want that admin token to flight in clear | 18:28 |
gyee | for token validation | 18:28 |
rafaduran | dolphm: I don't very much how works the git review, Do I add a comment on the commit msg? Or just comment the review after submit it? | 18:29 |
dolphm | rafaduran: ping me after the meeting | 18:29 |
heckj | other questions? issues? topics? | 18:30 |
dolphm | heckj: can i beg for reviews again? | 18:31 |
termie | dolphm: no | 18:31 |
heckj | have at :-) | 18:31 |
dolphm | 5 of 6 release blockers are fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#change,5358 and https://review.openstack.org/#change,5485 | 18:31 |
dolphm | just sayin | 18:31 |
termie | moving dolph to the back of the line | 18:31 |
dolphm | lol | 18:31 |
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heckj | Okay, I think we're wrapped up. | 18:31 |
heckj | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 18:32:04 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:32 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-18.02.html | 18:32 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-18.02.txt | 18:32 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-18.02.log.html | 18:32 |
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mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 19:01:07 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:01 |
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mtaylor | #topic OpenStack CI Stuff | 19:01 |
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LinuxJedi | yay :) | 19:01 |
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mtaylor | sup? | 19:02 |
jeblair | mtaylor: you lookin at me? | 19:03 |
soren | o/ | 19:03 |
mtaylor | so, I'm going to try to power through - I'm finalizing some slides for a talk I'm giving in a few hours | 19:03 |
LinuxJedi | \o/ | 19:03 |
mtaylor | :) | 19:03 |
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mtaylor | jeblair: which made me think - SUPER low priority - but if we're keeping our talks in slidy in git, we could actually publish them somewhere | 19:03 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: you mean you just started some slides for a talk in a few hours? ;) | 19:04 |
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mtaylor | LinuxJedi: nah. not _just_ started - I am cannibalizing from some previous slides | 19:04 |
LinuxJedi | lol :) | 19:04 |
mtaylor | LinuxJedi, devananda: not sure if we pointed either of you at it, but we have sets of slides at http://github.com/openstack-ci/publications | 19:05 |
mtaylor | all in html :) | 19:05 |
LinuxJedi | I didn't know that, but awesome :) | 19:05 |
devananda | nice | 19:05 |
mtaylor | SO ... status of things ... jeblair is working on devstack-gate stuff, and linuxjedi has puppet/css stuff | 19:06 |
jeblair | we should probably add a readme to make this explicit, but i feel very generous about those, i totally think people should cannibalize, reuse them, (contribute fixes!) as they see fit. | 19:06 |
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mtaylor | jeblair: ++ | 19:06 |
mtaylor | jeblair: perhaps there's an appropriate createive commons license for that? | 19:06 |
jeblair | mtaylor: i bet there is. | 19:06 |
* LinuxJedi would be surprised if there isn't | 19:06 | |
mtaylor | jeblair, LinuxJedi: you guys wanna tell folks about the cool stuff you've been doing? | 19:06 |
mtaylor | my only status update is that I've been breaking things | 19:07 |
LinuxJedi | sure, who first? | 19:07 |
mtaylor | and working on hiring more people so that I don't have to touch things and break them any more | 19:07 |
mtaylor | LinuxJedi: you go | 19:07 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: you fixed something today! | 19:07 |
LinuxJedi | ok, so... | 19:07 |
mtaylor | accident | 19:07 |
LinuxJedi | for those who weren't here last week, I have been skinning Jenkins and Gerrit | 19:08 |
LinuxJedi | the skins for this can be seen on https://jenkins-dev.openstack.org/ and https://review-dev.openstack.org/ | 19:08 |
LinuxJedi | this is currently pending code review and will go live ASAP | 19:08 |
mtaylor | LinuxJedi: I keep meaning to look - it's parameterized such that you could use your nifty stackforge logo on stackforge jenkins/gerrit, yeah? | 19:09 |
LinuxJedi | In other news... I have been working on getting puppet to automagically create jobs when given a new project name | 19:09 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: it isn't yet, because I need other things reviewed and to land first | 19:09 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: I have 4 things pending review for the puppet repo now ;) | 19:10 |
LinuxJedi | I have a prototype for this which seems to work and is pending review also. It sets up all the jobs we are typically usign right now with tox | 19:11 |
LinuxJedi | the final thing I have been working on is getting our puppet scripts to work with Openstack and Stackforge. That is also pending review, and will have some extra stuff to go in once everything else lands (like a cool logo for Stackforge) | 19:12 |
mtaylor | all of that will be quite sweet | 19:12 |
mtaylor | I've been punching myself in the face with slides today, so I haven't gotten to fully review your new template jobs work | 19:12 |
LinuxJedi | I may finally get the CI docs stuff I've been putting off for the last few weeks done this week ;) | 19:12 |
mtaylor | LinuxJedi: woot! | 19:13 |
mtaylor | LinuxJedi: I betcha that working through some of those things with devananda will be good motivation to do that :) | 19:13 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: no worries, but I am getting to the point soon where I can't do much more puppet stuff until they land | 19:13 |
LinuxJedi | mtaylor: very much so | 19:13 |
mtaylor | speaking of - for those playing along at home - we're still working on getting devananda access to things, but he's going to investigate gerrit 2.3 for us once we have him some machine resources :) | 19:14 |
LinuxJedi | ++ | 19:14 |
soren | You can't spare him a cloud instance? | 19:14 |
mtaylor | soren: have you been following any of our chatting about driving the standard jenkins jobs for the projects from our puppet modules? | 19:14 |
LinuxJedi | soren: we maxxed out mtaylor's account already ;) | 19:15 |
soren | mtaylor: I... no. I don't think so. | 19:15 |
mtaylor | soren: I just got him his own cloud account! (it just took a while) | 19:15 |
mtaylor | soren: since you also poke at things, it would be nice to get your thoughts on LinuxJedi's patch | 19:15 |
soren | mtaylor: I'm guessing the goal is to more declaratively be able to add more projets? | 19:16 |
LinuxJedi | soren: https://review.openstack.org/5531 | 19:16 |
mtaylor | soren: yes - and to manage them long term consistently | 19:16 |
mtaylor | soren: and have those things all code reviewed :) | 19:16 |
soren | Cool. I've been trying to do something similar just with Jenkins.. It's not a lot of fun. | 19:17 |
LinuxJedi | oh, also high up on my todo list is to knock up a quick homepage for Stackforge, I had everything ready to do that and other things got in the way :) | 19:17 |
mtaylor | ++ | 19:18 |
mtaylor | soren, LinuxJedi I imagine we'll go through a couple of iterations before we get totally satisfied - but I think LinuxJedi's work thus far is a huge step towards perfection | 19:19 |
mtaylor | cool. | 19:19 |
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mtaylor | jeblair: how about you? wanna talk about devstack-gate? | 19:19 |
soren | mtaylor: I'm not very comfortable with it landing right now, though. | 19:19 |
soren | Release is soon. | 19:19 |
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soren | I'd like us to wait until a couple of days after (to leave room for a potential quick point release). | 19:19 |
LinuxJedi | soren: well, even when it lands it doesn't have to be live for Openstack, it can be used on Stackforge first | 19:19 |
mtaylor | soren: agree. I think it can land in the puppet repo without us actually configuring it to do things | 19:19 |
mtaylor | what LinuxJedi said | 19:20 |
soren | Ah. | 19:20 |
soren | Ok | 19:20 |
LinuxJedi | but we need stackforge puppet to land before I can do that | 19:20 |
soren | That's somewhat comforting. | 19:20 |
mtaylor | stackforge is becoming really useful as a staging environment for openstack-ci :) | 19:20 |
LinuxJedi | hehe :) | 19:20 |
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jeblair | we've already not upgraded gerrit because of what we learned from stackforge. :) | 19:20 |
LinuxJedi | oh yea, no news on the gerrit 2.2.2 performance bug (I don't expect it will be fixed with high priority). I'm hoping 2.3 will be better | 19:21 |
soren | Question: We deploy a set of services and run some tests against it for gating, right? On metal? | 19:21 |
mtaylor | soren: against what? | 19:21 |
soren | I'm mostly thinking of Nova here. As I do. | 19:21 |
mtaylor | ah. yes | 19:22 |
soren | Exactly what set of tests? | 19:22 |
jeblair | we don't test on metal anymore | 19:22 |
mtaylor | (but would like to again at some point) | 19:22 |
soren | And if I can deliver something else against which the same set of tests passes, can we gate on that? | 19:22 |
soren | jeblair: Oh. | 19:22 |
soren | jeblair: How come? | 19:22 |
jeblair | we lost access to those machines, no one at rax stepped up to help. | 19:23 |
LinuxJedi | scrap metal merchants gave us a good deal | 19:23 |
soren | Ah. | 19:23 |
soren | .( | 19:23 |
soren | :( | 19:23 |
mtaylor | soren: we have a new set of machines at hp | 19:23 |
mtaylor | soren: getting them bootstrapped is on my todo list | 19:23 |
soren | Ok. | 19:24 |
soren | These feel like stupid questions, but I don't know anymore how to find the answers myself. | 19:24 |
devananda | mtaylor, might ^ be a good project for me? | 19:24 |
soren | ..but what is the current set of tests run before anything gets merged into Nova? | 19:24 |
jeblair | unit tests(26 and 27), pep8, and devstack exercise.sh | 19:25 |
jeblair | i think we're really close to adding devstack-configured tempest to that | 19:25 |
soren | So we spin up a cloud instance, run devstack and its exercise.sh. | 19:25 |
jeblair | yep | 19:25 |
soren | Cool. | 19:25 |
* soren makes sure his stuff passes the same set of tests. | 19:26 | |
jeblair | that's the "devstack-gate" | 19:26 |
soren | jeblair: I see no such job. | 19:26 |
jeblair | soren: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5554 | 19:26 |
jeblair | you can look at any merged change to nova, and see the jenkins report | 19:26 |
jeblair | it will have links to all the gating jobs | 19:27 |
jeblair | the actual job is gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm. :) | 19:27 |
LinuxJedi | incidentally the job that we had issues with for the RC1 release this morning ;) | 19:27 |
soren | Where is this configured (so that I won't have to ask these silly questions another time)? | 19:27 |
mtaylor | devananda: YES | 19:27 |
LinuxJedi | soren: https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Gate/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/ | 19:28 |
soren | LinuxJedi: Right, right. I mean.. | 19:28 |
soren | er... | 19:28 |
jeblair | soren: answering the question of "what are the current gating jobs for a project"? | 19:28 |
soren | I mean, how could I have determined that that was one of the jobs that would be.. | 19:28 |
soren | Right. | 19:28 |
soren | Taht.s | 19:28 |
soren | That. | 19:28 |
jeblair | soren: that's trickier. really the easiest way is to look at the most recent merged change. | 19:28 |
soren | jeblair: Let's pretend that I wanted to add something to the list. | 19:28 |
soren | (I don't, but I think this is the asnwer I'm looking for) | 19:29 |
jeblair | because the actual answer is "whatever jobs are configured with a gerrit trigger" | 19:29 |
soren | Ah. | 19:29 |
LinuxJedi | soren: the job watches gerrit, so it is whatever jobs are watching | 19:29 |
jeblair | soren: so that's why we've been naming them with gate- | 19:29 |
LinuxJedi | and it isn't easy to reverse-lookup | 19:29 |
soren | Is it Jenkins that ultimately merges? | 19:29 |
soren | Or Gerrit? | 19:30 |
jeblair | if you search for jobs titled "gate-nova-*" you'll get all the nova gating jobs, but devstack violates that naming convention since it watches _many_ projects. | 19:30 |
jeblair | jenkins tells gerrit to merge | 19:30 |
soren | If Gerrit, how does it know to trust (only) our Jenkins? | 19:30 |
jeblair | the jenkins user is the only one with that permission | 19:30 |
vishy | jeblair / mtaylor : where and what is this stackforge thing? | 19:30 |
* soren is trying to catch up with how everything works. | 19:30 | |
LinuxJedi | vishy: I can answer that... | 19:31 |
soren | jeblair: Ah, I see. Ok. | 19:31 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: stackforge is like Openstack Jenkins/Gerrit but for satellite type projects | 19:31 |
soren | jeblair: Cool. Thanks. | 19:31 |
devananda | soren, this is a good discussion for me as well, I'm still learning all these interdependencies ... | 19:31 |
jeblair | soren: i think that's great. we could probably use an updated set of "here's the design philosophy for the system" type docs. we've been very focused on operational ones. | 19:31 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: currently only one project on it, a second coming very soon | 19:31 |
vishy | LinuxJedi: where is it? | 19:31 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: jenkins.stackforge.org and review.stackforge.org | 19:32 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: I'm hopefully creating a homepage for it this week and there are other subdomains to come | 19:32 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: RedDwarf is next to go on it | 19:32 |
vishy | MRaaS nice | 19:32 |
LinuxJedi | vishy: we are also using it to test things like Gerrit 2.2.2 before it goes to Openstack | 19:33 |
LinuxJedi | and we are using puppet master there instead of invoking with cron | 19:33 |
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jeblair | so here's what i was up to last week: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5481 | 19:35 |
jeblair | that updates the devstack gate job to change the way we build the devstack vm images | 19:35 |
jeblair | and adds support for multiple image versions and providers | 19:35 |
jeblair | so we should be ready to handle things like "run this branch on precise, and this branch on oneiric" if that comes up | 19:36 |
soren | Cool. | 19:36 |
jeblair | and we now have accounts in rackspace legacy, the rackspace nova beta-test system, and hpcloud | 19:36 |
jeblair | so next up is getting devstack nodes in all three of those providers | 19:36 |
jeblair | we'll use all of them all the time, and we'll effectively have an HA system | 19:37 |
soren | "devstack nodes"? | 19:37 |
jeblair | so if one fails, we'll continue using nodes from others. | 19:37 |
jeblair | soren: throwaway vms that are booted, have devstack installed and run on them, run exercise.sh (and soon tempest), then deleted. | 19:38 |
vishy | jeblair: that would be awesome | 19:38 |
jeblair | we boot them ahead of time and maintain a pool of them that are ready for immediate use by the test scripts. | 19:38 |
vishy | jeblair: so tired of devstack gate blow up because raxcloud is borked | 19:38 |
soren | Oh, gotcha. I misunderstood. Thought you meant we'd have some sort of persistent thing called "devstack nodes" at each provider. | 19:38 |
jeblair | vishy: yes, and pvo and i are both excited about helping to test an actual nova deployment. :) | 19:39 |
LinuxJedi | s/test/destroy | 19:39 |
jeblair | soren: nope, though we do generate images... | 19:39 |
jeblair | that have all of the .debs, python packages, test images, and code repos cached ahead of time | 19:40 |
jeblair | so that we minimize network dependencies and startup time | 19:40 |
soren | Does the OpenStack cloud at RAX let you upload your own images? | 19:40 |
* soren hasn't been blessed with an account | 19:40 | |
jeblair | i don't know, but rackspace legacy and hpcloud both don't, so we have to work with that. | 19:41 |
jeblair | instead, the scripts start with a provider base image, cache everything, then take a snapshot. | 19:41 |
soren | So what /do/ you build images for? | 19:41 |
soren | Oh. | 19:41 |
soren | Gotcha. | 19:41 |
jeblair | then we spin up the nodes from that snapshot | 19:41 |
jeblair | so the challenge for me this week is that there is no single library that can work with all three providers | 19:42 |
pvo | soren: not yet. | 19:42 |
jeblair | novaclient works with hpcloud and rax-nova, but not rax-legacy | 19:42 |
jeblair | libcloud works with rax-legacy and (trunk version:) rax-nova, but not hpcloud | 19:42 |
pvo | jeblair: it sorta works… not 100% though | 19:42 |
pvo | I can get to do some basic things | 19:43 |
jeblair | pvo: novaclient and rax-legacy? | 19:43 |
pvo | jeblair: yea, I can get it to sorta work. | 19:44 |
jeblair | oh, i didn't think it worked at all after they removed the v1_0 stuff. | 19:44 |
vishy | jeblair: the old python-openstack-compute code works | 19:45 |
vishy | jeblair: I use that when I'm talking to legacy | 19:45 |
mtaylor | vishy: yeah - problem is wanting to have one script which talks to all three | 19:45 |
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jeblair | we need to list images, sizes, and machines; boot machines; create an image from a running machine; and delete machines | 19:47 |
vishy | mtaylor: patch legacy compatibility back into novaclient :) | 19:48 |
jeblair | vishy: i actually looked into that | 19:48 |
jeblair | i'm not sure it ever supported creating an image | 19:48 |
chmouel | jeblair: yeah it did | 19:49 |
soren | If it's the thing based on jacobian's thing, then it did. | 19:49 |
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mtaylor | vishy: I poked bcwaldon a while back about adding support back in | 19:49 |
jeblair | chmouel: cool; did it have a different name than the method used in 1.1? | 19:49 |
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chmouel | jeblair: let me check | 19:50 |
jeblair | i saw the "backup" method, but that seemed to be about setting backup schedules, not immediately creating a named image... | 19:50 |
chmouel | jeblair: just the standard create https://github.com/chmouel/python-cloudservers/blob/master/cloudservers/images.py#L39 | 19:50 |
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jeblair | oh. of course. | 19:51 |
jeblair | it's on the image class. :) | 19:51 |
jeblair | servers.create_image exists in 1.1, so i assumed if 1.0 had it, it would be something similar | 19:52 |
jeblair | okay, so novaclient is back on the menu. :) | 19:52 |
mtaylor | woohoo | 19:52 |
jeblair | i could add 1.0 support back in and see if that works with all three. | 19:52 |
jeblair | or i can work on getting libcloud to work with hpcloud (and rax-nova if further work is needed) | 19:52 |
mtaylor | that would get novaclient inline with what we've talked about for it moving foward - which is that it should just know how to talk to openstack clouds | 19:52 |
chmouel | we probably need just a python-cloudservers with custom auth url if novaclient doesn't want 1.0 support | 19:53 |
* mtaylor thinks it would be way more friendly if novaclient could do it without killing people | 19:53 | |
jeblair | chmouel: well, i don't want to use two libraries to talk to all our providers | 19:53 |
jeblair | (i mean, we can already do that today with libcloud and novaclient if we wanted to) | 19:53 |
mtaylor | jeblair: I vote on getting buy on on adding 1.0 support to novaclient ... and if that's a non-starter, then fix libcloud | 19:54 |
chmouel | ok make sense | 19:54 |
mtaylor | (we should make our own tools kickass where we can) | 19:54 |
jeblair | i agree | 19:54 |
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jeblair | that was very helpful, thanks chmouel, vishy, pvo. | 19:55 |
LinuxJedi | anything else before we hit the hour? | 19:55 |
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mtaylor | thanks everybody! that was super helpful | 19:56 |
mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
LinuxJedi | ++ | 19:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 19:56:48 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-19.01.html | 19:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-19.01.txt | 19:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-19.01.log.html | 19:56 |
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jk0 | no ppb today I take it? | 20:04 |
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devcamcar | dont think i heard one way or another | 20:05 |
devcamcar | but it appears there is not one | 20:05 |
pvo | I didn't see anything | 20:05 |
ttx | no confirmation, no meeting :) | 20:05 |
ttx | Release/Project meeting starts in 55min | 20:05 |
heckj | kk | 20:08 |
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ttx | o/ | 20:59 |
bcwaldon | allo | 20:59 |
dolphm | \o | 20:59 |
pvo | --0-- | 20:59 |
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ttx | heckj, notmyname, jaypipes, vishy/anotherjesse, devcamcar: around ? | 21:00 |
notmyname | howdy | 21:00 |
joesavak | \o | 21:00 |
ohnoimdead | <- filling in for devcamcar \o | 21:00 |
heckj | o/ | 21:00 |
bhall | <- filling in for danwent | 21:00 |
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vishy | i'm lurking | 21:01 |
* glenc is not all here | 21:01 | |
ttx | vishy: is anotherjesse filling in for you ? | 21:01 |
jaypipes | ttx: here | 21:02 |
ttx | ok, let's start then, should be a quick one | 21:02 |
ttx | #startmeeting | 21:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 21:02:30 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:02 |
ttx | Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting (nothing special) | 21:02 |
ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:03 | |
ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:03 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:03 |
vishy | ttx: I will attempt to do it if i can jump out of my meeting | 21:03 |
ttx | 5 bugs left | 21:03 |
ttx | vishy: ack | 21:03 |
heckj | Everyone else is ahead, but we've made (and continue to make) good progress. Down to 5 bugs left, in progress on all. | 21:03 |
ttx | Looks like most of them will be fixed by the unexpected exceptions wrap change | 21:03 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#change,5358 | 21:03 |
heckj | We're hoping to be able to cut RC1 in the next day or two. | 21:04 |
heckj | ttx: yep - many are wrapped in there | 21:04 |
ttx | the other one is bug 932258, which is also proposed for review. | 21:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 932258 in keystone "Role names should be globally unique and required" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932258 | 21:04 |
ttx | heckj: Are we missing anything critical in this RC list ? | 21:04 |
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heckj | ttx: not that we're aware of at this time. Additional testing will be needed with RC1 (obviously), but per the keystone meeting this morning we're lookin' pretty good | 21:05 |
dolphm | 4 of the 5 are covered by review 5358, the last one by https://review.openstack.org/#change,5485 | 21:05 |
ttx | 4 bugs suggested on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential | 21:05 |
* soren has one that probably should've been marked rc potential | 21:05 | |
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dolphm | soren: link? | 21:05 |
heckj | soren: let me know which one | 21:05 |
soren | Looking for it.. | 21:06 |
ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/952977 ? | 21:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 952977 in keystone "Can't fetch EC2 credentials" [High,In progress] | 21:06 |
soren | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/959294 | 21:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed] | 21:06 |
soren | Oh,got triaged while I wasn't looking. | 21:06 |
heckj | tagged against RC1 already | 21:06 |
russellb | i'd put https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/938801 on rc-potential. not critical, but the code doesn't work at all otherwise | 21:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 938801 in keystone "ImportError on pam - different naming in distros vs python package" [Medium,In progress] | 21:06 |
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ttx | heckj: actually bug 959294 is not targeted against RC1 | 21:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959294 | 21:07 |
heckj | ttx: I meant the previous one - lag in typing | 21:07 |
heckj | russelb: done | 21:07 |
russellb | heckj: rockin, thanks | 21:08 |
ttx | heckj: should we RC1ify 959294 ? or put it on essex-rc-potential ? | 21:08 |
heckj | I'll link it into potential | 21:08 |
heckj | If anyone thinks it should block, holler now | 21:09 |
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ttx | heckj: not being able to delete users sounds bad to me | 21:10 |
jaypipes | wait, which specific bug is in question? | 21:10 |
annegentle | heckj: it was often brought up as a problem (not being able to delete users) | 21:10 |
heckj | ttx: be clear - do you think it should block the release? | 21:10 |
ttx | jaypipes: bug 959294 | 21:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 959294 in keystone "Can't delete users" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959294 | 21:10 |
jaypipes | k | 21:10 |
heckj | jaypipes: bug 959294 | 21:10 |
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ttx | heckj: IMO yes | 21:11 |
jaypipes | yeah, not being able to delete users is a major issue... | 21:11 |
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heckj | Okay - I'm good with that | 21:11 |
dolphm | i'll pick it up | 21:12 |
ttx | heckj: so like you said, we are still one or two days away from Keystone RC1 | 21:12 |
ttx | heckj: We'll make a daily status update in your mornings/my evenings to keep the thing under control | 21:13 |
soren | It /seems/ like a reasonably simple fix (I've spent all of 7 seconds looking at the code, so obviously I can make that determination). | 21:13 |
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heckj | dolphm: thanks - logged and assigned | 21:13 |
ttx | heckj: and do RC1 as soon as it stops moving | 21:13 |
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heckj | soren: patches always welcome! | 21:13 |
heckj | ttx: yep, ready to whack it with a machete | 21:13 |
ttx | heckj: anything else ? | 21:14 |
heckj | not from me. Questions on Keystone? | 21:14 |
heckj | We have doc updats pendind (formal and informal) - have been focused on RC1 issues first | 21:14 |
ttx | heckj: we are in much better shape today that yesterday :) | 21:15 |
ttx | than* | 21:15 |
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ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:15 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:16 | |
ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:16 |
notmyname | yay swift | 21:16 |
ttx | notmyname: So we have an 1.4.8 proposed candidate up for testing | 21:16 |
notmyname | that is correct | 21:16 |
ttx | which we hope to release on Thursday. | 21:16 |
notmyname | we should have a go/nogo tomorrow for a formal release on the 22nd | 21:16 |
ttx | ack | 21:16 |
notmyname | at least that's the plan :-) | 21:16 |
notmyname | Daviey: no new features (client-facing) in 1.4.8 | 21:17 |
ttx | this week is one of /those/ weeks | 21:17 |
ttx | Since there is no such thing as a bug in Swift, i won't ask if anybody has found a critical bug in 1.4.8 | 21:18 |
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ttx | (but if you did, you should speak up now before it's too late) | 21:18 |
ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:18 |
notmyname | no, not from me | 21:19 |
ttx | Questions on Swift ? anyone ? | 21:19 |
soren | Not a question, just a clarification: | 21:19 |
annegentle | what's the decision from packaging for 1.4.7 vs 1.4.8 | 21:19 |
soren | Whether the features are client-facing or not is not the issue for Ubuntu. | 21:19 |
ttx | annegentle: Essex will be 1.4.8 | 21:20 |
soren | It's simply about the fact that new features might introduce regressions. | 21:20 |
ttx | (or 1.4.8 will be Essex). | 21:20 |
soren | User-facing features have more problems, but any feature counts in terms of feature freeze. Strictly speaking. | 21:20 |
notmyname | soren: you can see the changelog for 1.4.8 here https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/CHANGELOG | 21:20 |
annegentle | there are CLI changes in that CHANGELOG | 21:21 |
notmyname | no major features (like object versioning). a few minor updates | 21:21 |
notmyname | lots of bugs | 21:21 |
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ttx | we won't make the decision for the Ubuntu release team between 1.4.7 and 1.4.8. | 21:22 |
soren | I (intentionally) didn't go looking. I just wanted to clarify. :) | 21:22 |
notmyname | annegentle: the release after 1.4.6 was intended to be our essex release (and released this week). we had something come up that made us want to cut a release earlier. that was 1.4.7. which gives us 1.4.8 this week | 21:22 |
soren | Not saying 1.4.8 poses a problem. | 21:22 |
ttx | soren: they migth require an FFe if they really want 1.4.8. | 21:23 |
ttx | but it sounds doable. | 21:23 |
ttx | annegentle: does that answer your question ? | 21:23 |
annegentle | ttx: yes | 21:23 |
notmyname | I wonder what they would do if we hadn't release 1.4.7 early | 21:23 |
ttx | notmyname: can we move to Glance ? | 21:24 |
notmyname | unless there are more questions | 21:24 |
ttx | doesn't seem so. So without further ado... | 21:25 |
ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:25 |
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ttx | jaypipes: yo | 21:25 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 21:25 |
ttx | So Glance is ready for RC1! | 21:25 |
heckj | Dolphm! Weren't you supposed to be logging hundreds of extra bugs so we could beat glance!?! :-) | 21:26 |
jaypipes | ttx: yes | 21:26 |
ttx | Unless someone has a surprise critical issue to suggest | 21:26 |
ttx | Speak now (or forever hold your peace). | 21:26 |
jog0 | not critical but was hoping to get this in: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5548 | 21:27 |
jog0 | its a user pointing doc cleanup | 21:27 |
bcwaldon | yes, should get that in | 21:27 |
jaypipes | jog0: essex-rc-potential | 21:27 |
jaypipes | jog0: could you add a bug for tracking it> | 21:28 |
jaypipes | ? | 21:28 |
dolphm | heckj: =( | 21:28 |
jog0 | jaypipes: sure | 21:28 |
jaypipes | jog0: cheers | 21:28 |
ttx | 3 bugs suggested on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential | 21:28 |
ttx | (soon 4) | 21:28 |
ttx | Including one "high" under investigation: bug 955527 | 21:28 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 955527 in glance "copy_from test case logic is invalid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/955527 | 21:28 |
ttx | jaypipes: will ping you at the end of the meeting so that we get the branches cut, and will publish RC1 tomorrow morning | 21:29 |
jaypipes | ttx: that one is actively being worked on. eglynn__ thinks it has to do with Amazon S3's write (lack of) guarantees | 21:29 |
annegentle | What are the ramifications for 944946? does it mean no images stored in swift? | 21:29 |
jaypipes | annegentle: have to work with chmouel on that one. | 21:29 |
annegentle | bug 944946 | 21:29 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 944946 in glance "Glance does not support auth server implementing 2.0 auth (ie: for Swift+Keystone)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944946 | 21:29 |
jaypipes | annegentle: it's slipped in priority, but I'd like to get it resolved | 21:30 |
annegentle | jaypipes: but what does it mean? :) | 21:30 |
jaypipes | annegentle: in RC2. | 21:30 |
jaypipes | annegentle: I think some of it is doc-related and some of it may need a slight change to the swift driver in Glance. | 21:30 |
jaypipes | annegentle: but I still need to understand it better from chmouel | 21:30 |
ttx | jaypipes: Anything else ? | 21:31 |
annegentle | jaypipes: ah, ok, understood. | 21:31 |
ttx | Other questions on Glance ? | 21:31 |
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ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:32 |
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ttx | vishy: hey | 21:32 |
ttx | Nova RC1 was published earlier today | 21:32 |
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ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/essex/essex-rc1 | 21:32 |
ttx | Please take this one for a ride and file bugs. | 21:33 |
vishy | hi | 21:33 |
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ttx | Bugs that you think should be fixed before release should be tagged "essex-rc-potential" | 21:33 |
ttx | 10 bugs suggested so far at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential | 21:34 |
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ttx | Including a critical one, so I suppose we'll have to respin the RC in the next few days | 21:34 |
ttx | vishy: anything you wanted to mention ? | 21:34 |
jog0 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/957708 ? | 21:34 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 957708 in nova "Invalid cidr in security group create raises "ERROR: local variable 'ip' referenced before assignment (HTTP 400)"" [Low,Fix committed] | 21:34 |
heckj | ttx: re-release of rc1, or move to an rc2? | 21:35 |
ttx | jog0: this one will probably be picked up by RC2 when the critical bug will be fixed | 21:35 |
ttx | heckj: rc2 | 21:35 |
* heckj nods | 21:35 | |
vishy | ttx: only recommending that people focus on docs/testing rather than going crazy pushing stuff into folsom | 21:35 |
ttx | heckj: "respinning the rc" involves incrementing its number | 21:35 |
heckj | ah, very good | 21:36 |
vishy | ttx: i will write an email to the list to that effect | 21:36 |
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ttx | vishy: ok | 21:36 |
jog0 | ttx: but hasn't master branch moved on to folsom? | 21:37 |
heckj | jog0: I don't think any of them should until we've cut a full release | 21:37 |
heckj | nova/glance/keystone/etc. | 21:37 |
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jog0 | heckj: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5554 | 21:37 |
ttx | jog0: yes. Bugfixes land in master branch first, then get backported to milestone-proposed branch (that contains the RCs) | 21:37 |
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gabrielhurley | ttx: who should be responsible for that backport? | 21:38 |
jog0 | gabrielhurley: +1 | 21:38 |
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ttx | gabrielhurley: once the bug is targeted and the new RC milestone opened, the PTL usually does it, but the author can help | 21:39 |
gabrielhurley | ttx: got it. so there will be a new RC milestone opened, then? | 21:39 |
gabrielhurley | (hasn't happened for horizon) | 21:40 |
ttx | gabrielhurley: when a new RC is deemed inevitable yes | 21:40 |
gabrielhurley | k. thanks. | 21:40 |
jog0 | ttx: why open Folsom up at all? If you want people to focus on Essex still? | 21:40 |
ttx | jog0: because we don't want to block development too long | 21:41 |
ttx | jog0: also only non-disruptive bugfixes can land in the release branch now | 21:42 |
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jog0 | ttx: even though the Folsom summit is almost a month away? | 21:42 |
ttx | jog0: yes. Future evolutions might include development branches that are always open. | 21:43 |
ttx | jog0: that's how we decided to do it.. last design summit. We can revisit that next month :) | 21:43 |
ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:43 |
ttx | Other questions on Nova ? | 21:43 |
vishy | nope | 21:44 |
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jog0 | ttx: thanks. I still think opening Folsom risks producing a lower quality Essex release as more people start Folsom | 21:44 |
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ttx | jog0: not totally sure of that. I think doing it at RC1 is a good trade-off | 21:44 |
ttx | people not caring about the release just don't care about the release, frozen branch or not | 21:45 |
russellb | reality is, if people want to focus on folsom, they will ... | 21:45 |
ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:45 |
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russellb | patches just won't show up until a bit later, doesn't mean it wasn't being worked on | 21:45 |
russellb | IMO anyway :) | 21:45 |
ttx | ohnoimdead: o/ | 21:45 |
ohnoimdead | \o | 21:45 |
ttx | Horizon RC1 was published earlier today. | 21:45 |
ohnoimdead | rc1 dropped yo! | 21:45 |
ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/essex/essex-rc1 | 21:45 |
gabrielhurley | woot! | 21:45 |
jog0 | ttx: right perhaps a ML email will let people know to target the RC1 branch to back port | 21:45 |
ohnoimdead | like a dubstep bassline | 21:45 |
ttx | Same comments as for Nova: test and file "essex-rc-potential"-tagged bugs | 21:46 |
ohnoimdead | we've got a few bugs tagged essex-rc-potential which are mostly nice to have | 21:46 |
ttx | jog0: they should actually continue to fix bugs in master, and tag them essex-rc-potential if they want them taken in consideration | 21:47 |
ttx | ohnoimdead: 14 bugs suggested so far at https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=essex-rc-potential | 21:47 |
ttx | hmm, 10 now | 21:47 |
gabrielhurley | ttx: that's 10 now | 21:47 |
gabrielhurley | just did a triage pass about half an hour ago | 21:47 |
ttx | Also already including a critical one :) so looks like you'll have an RC2 too | 21:47 |
ohnoimdead | yeah, gabrielhurley cleaned that up a bit | 21:48 |
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ttx | ohnoimdead: Anything else you wanted to mention ? | 21:48 |
ohnoimdead | ttx: just to get help from other folks in the community with testing. horizon is downstream of everything so we often expose hard-to-find bugs in underlying services | 21:48 |
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gabrielhurley | I'm not ohnoimdead, but I'd like to mention we could really use some more translators. We've only got two languages out of our previous 6 translated right now. | 21:49 |
ohnoimdead | gabrielhurley: +1 | 21:49 |
ttx | #help Horizon could really use some more translators. We've only got two languages out of our previous 6 translated right now. | 21:49 |
ttx | Other questions/remarks on Horizon ? | 21:49 |
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ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:50 |
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ttx | bhall, troytoman: yo | 21:50 |
bhall | hey | 21:50 |
ttx | danwent is away, said that Quantum RC1 is out, please test ! | 21:50 |
ttx | bhall: anything you wanted to mention ? | 21:50 |
bhall | that's it.. thanks :) | 21:50 |
ttx | troytoman-away: are you really away ? | 21:51 |
jkoelker | troytoman's in a meeting, all quiet on the melange front | 21:51 |
ttx | jkoelker: I need to talk to him about doing an RC1 for Melange at some point | 21:51 |
ttx | but will do PM | 21:51 |
jkoelker | I think we are good to go | 21:51 |
ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:52 |
jkoelker | we havn't had a bug in a while crop up | 21:52 |
ttx | annegentle: docs? | 21:52 |
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annegentle | ttx: definitely need config docs as specified by the doc bugs I mentioned last meeting and to the ML today | 21:52 |
annegentle | appreciate all the doc patches the last couple of weeks | 21:52 |
annegentle | configuration is a beast | 21:52 |
ttx | annegentle: hopefullt with RC1 out of the way more focus will go to docs | 21:52 |
annegentle | I'm laser focused on having good release docs | 21:53 |
ttx | also less changes should help | 21:53 |
annegentle | docs.openstack.org now points to /trunk, so please review, test, fix doc bugs | 21:53 |
annegentle | ttx: agreed | 21:53 |
ttx | annegentle: anything else ? | 21:54 |
annegentle | hopefully the Identity API docs can also get some lovin' soon | 21:54 |
annegentle | that's it from docs land. | 21:54 |
heckj | annegentle: yeps! Needs it quite a bit right now. Very confusing to write for it | 21:54 |
ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:54 |
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ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:55 |
ozstacker | Hi all, Tristan here, organizer from the Australian User Group with a question to the project leads... I know it's a busy time and it'd be a late night gig but am wondering if any of you would be available to do a short talk about your project to our user group in Sydney early (very early actually) next week? | 21:55 |
ttx | Nice proposals coming in for the summit | 21:55 |
bcwaldon | ozstacker: flying people in? | 21:56 |
ttx | ozstacker: timing is a bit suboptimal, it's money time around here :) | 21:56 |
ozstacker | If I could I would... via WebEx | 21:56 |
ttx | ah. WebEx. | 21:56 |
ozstacker | yeah no problem I understand | 21:56 |
ozstacker | I have alternatives arranged so no stress if no can do | 21:57 |
bcwaldon | ozstacker: not sure you'll get commitment in this meeting, you might want to follow up offline | 21:57 |
ttx | ozstacker: maybe use email to contact the persons you're interested in directly | 21:57 |
ozstacker | ok will do | 21:57 |
ttx | and on those good words... | 21:58 |
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ttx | #endmeeting | 21:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 21:58:07 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-21.02.html | 21:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-21.02.txt | 21:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-21.02.log.html | 21:58 |
ttx | Thanks everyone | 21:58 |
bcwaldon | ttx: thank you! | 21:58 |
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bhall | hey everyone.. danwent has jury duty today so I'll be filling in | 22:01 |
debo-os | hi | 22:01 |
GheRivero | hi | 22:01 |
edgarmagana | hola! | 22:01 |
davlaps | hi folks! | 22:02 |
bhall | #startmeeting | 22:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 22:02:20 2012 UTC. The chair is bhall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:02 |
bhall | should be a short one today | 22:02 |
somik | hello all! | 22:02 |
bhall | agenda is here: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:02 |
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bhall | #topic rc1 | 22:03 |
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bhall | Essex-RC1 is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 22:03 |
debo-os | observations: more people are saying hello whjen danW is not around | 22:03 |
bhall | haha | 22:03 |
bhall | we'll see if he reads the logs afterwards, eh? | 22:03 |
debo-os | :) | 22:03 |
bhall | so.. Essex-RC1 is out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc1 | 22:03 |
bhall | please test | 22:03 |
bhall | try it out.. find bugs and file them, etc | 22:03 |
bhall | the distros are working on packaging | 22:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | Hi all! | 22:04 |
bhall | at this point it looks like debian is getting close (thanks Ghe!) | 22:04 |
bhall | Fedora is also coming along | 22:04 |
Salv-orlando | Hi | 22:04 |
bhall | #topic priorities on folsom | 22:04 |
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bhall | dan kindly encourages every one to respond to the mailing list thread regarding priorities for folsom | 22:05 |
edgarmagana | ufff.. what a topic! | 22:05 |
bhall | please respond with your ideas if you haven't already | 22:05 |
bhall | #topic priorities for folsom | 22:05 |
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bhall | :) | 22:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | taking bets now: who types faster, brad or dan! :-) | 22:05 |
debo-os | 1) scalability | 22:05 |
bhall | SumitNaiksatam: oh, I type much faster :) | 22:05 |
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bhall | debo-os: respond to the mailing list ;) | 22:05 |
debo-os | i was the 1st to respond to dan's thread | 22:06 |
debo-os | ;) | 22:06 |
jlm^ | 2) Stability ? :) | 22:06 |
bhall | good | 22:06 |
bhall | jlm^: yeah, that'd be nice too | 22:06 |
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wwkeyboard | 3) plugins, in or out? :) | 22:07 |
SumitNaiksatam | i think these are better defined/targeted with some specific goals in mind, otherwise very opended | 22:07 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: that's a good one as well | 22:08 |
bhall | SumitNaiksatam: yeah, agreed | 22:09 |
cdub | wwkeyboard: what do you mean by in or out? | 22:09 |
wwkeyboard | bhall: I have some more ideas for the list, I just think that needs to be settleed soon | 22:09 |
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wwkeyboard | cdub: I'll explain in an email to the list, it will take more discussion that can/should be covered right now | 22:10 |
cdub | heh, ok, np | 22:10 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: I know there has been some talk about it on the mailing list.. I think a proposal would be great (separate repository, each in its own repository, etc) | 22:10 |
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bhall | #topic devstack exercise script review | 22:11 |
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bhall | devstack exercise script review: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4665 | 22:11 |
bhall | would be nice to get some more eyes on that | 22:11 |
edgarmagana | bhall: working on that! | 22:11 |
debo-os | ok .... I put changes asked by Dean | 22:11 |
bhall | edgarmagana: great, thanks | 22:11 |
debo-os | I oculdnt keep him happy on 1 front .... | 22:11 |
debo-os | it needs mysql to query quantum network uuids | 22:11 |
debo-os | since the cli output is not as well formatted as in nova cli | 22:12 |
debo-os | danwent has a bug to track | 22:12 |
debo-os | to fix CLIs | 22:12 |
debo-os | we originally thought we would fix devstack after the CLI | 22:12 |
anotherjesse | debo-os: nova cli is painful | 22:12 |
debo-os | :) | 22:12 |
anotherjesse | we need to switch to tabs and make it easy to script | 22:13 |
vishy | anotherjesse: yes plz | 22:13 |
debo-os | quantum output is not even on a single line | 22:13 |
davlaps | +1 | 22:13 |
bhall | yeah, both of the CLIs need to be more easily parseable | 22:13 |
anotherjesse | bhall: folsom ftw | 22:13 |
vishy | bhall: I feel like that defeats the purpose of an exercise | 22:13 |
vishy | bhall: as in it should be a straight through flow so it is easy to understand how to use the cli | 22:13 |
vishy | bhall: perhaps it should be broken up into a few different exercises? | 22:14 |
bhall | sure.. but I'll let debo/davelaps take tha tone | 22:14 |
debo-os | vishy: the quantum exercise is just one file but is broken up into different tests | 22:14 |
debo-os | each test can be separately triggered | 22:14 |
vishy | debo-os: yeah i understand, basically the idea of exercise scripts are to demonstrate how to use the command line | 22:15 |
debo-os | oh got it | 22:15 |
vishy | debo-os: so that a user could copy and paste commands from the script | 22:15 |
debo-os | from that perspective mysql is also a cmd line ;) | 22:15 |
vishy | debo-os: we have a very small number of helpers for the exercises where it is just too painful ( like get_field) | 22:15 |
vishy | debo-os: and die | 22:15 |
vishy | debo-os: it would be awesome to look at the quantum exercise and see how to create a quantum network and put an instance in it in one simple flow... | 22:16 |
vishy | debo-os: I don't get that out of the current script, I have to follow method calls etc. | 22:16 |
debo-os | vishy: I think it does that | 22:16 |
debo-os | ok I can do 2 things | 22:16 |
debo-os | 1 full blown exercise and 1 quantum-lite | 22:17 |
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debo-os | in fact the 1st version which you had reviewed it was like that :) | 22:17 |
debo-os | one single flow | 22:17 |
debo-os | thx for all the feedback .... will do all this ... | 22:18 |
debo-os | should be done in a day | 22:18 |
davlaps | vishy: you can blame me for the functions. i thought it made it easier to see how to do each task. | 22:18 |
bhall | #action debo-os to refactor quantum exercise script | 22:18 |
davlaps | debo-os: i'm happy to help out with the refactoring.. | 22:18 |
bhall | ok.. anything else on the exercise script? | 22:18 |
debo-os | no | 22:19 |
bhall | #topic summit | 22:19 |
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bhall | anyone still trying to get into dev summit can get on waitlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dE1qYkI4ck5KY2NHd0o5c0k4d1hHeHc6MQ#gid=0 | 22:19 |
bhall | hopefully everyone already registered.. | 22:19 |
bhall | ok.. moving on | 22:20 |
bhall | #topic open discussion | 22:20 |
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bhall | anyone have anything they want to talk about? | 22:20 |
wwkeyboard | Is anyone here using melange with quantum? I found a bug that may cause an inconvinence. | 22:21 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: we do.. do you have a bug filed already? | 22:21 |
wwkeyboard | I haven't filed it yet, and if noone is using it I'll just merge in the fix | 22:21 |
cdub | bhall: I think the fallout from https://github.com/openstack/quantum/commit/c6e1c616ad2ad3949b7bec36233d7aac885922c4 is understood at this point | 22:22 |
cdub | bhall: but do you have an opinion on setup.py using scripts vs console_scripts? | 22:22 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: ok, sounds good | 22:22 |
bhall | cdub: I just want us to do what the other projects do | 22:23 |
wwkeyboard | Ok, then I'll write it up. but if you look in the interfaces table you'll see device_id contains integer IDs instead of UUIDS | 22:23 |
wwkeyboard | this was recently fixed, but there is no migration. | 22:23 |
bhall | it sounds like you asked monty to go chase down the ptl's and figure out what the direction is | 22:23 |
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cdub | bhall: yeah | 22:23 |
cdub | and we have interim workaround for fedora | 22:23 |
SumitNaiksatam | question for davlaps: with regards to the tty image with multiple interfaces that you are pointing to now in devstack, does it get a DHCP IP address for multiple interfaces, or only for the default interface (eth0)? | 22:23 |
davlaps | SumitNaiksatam: for multiple interfaces.. | 22:24 |
bhall | cdub: ok, good. hopefully we'll get that all sorted out soon | 22:24 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: does this require any quantum manager (melange ipam lib or connection) changes? | 22:24 |
wwkeyboard | No | 22:25 |
SumitNaiksatam | davlaps: thanks...ok, in our setup only one interface was getting the IP, and the others were getting if we manually initiated udhcpc, so just wondering what was going awry | 22:25 |
wwkeyboard | I can't see where that field is used yet, but I'm using it to fix filtering by IPs | 22:25 |
bhall | wwkeyboard: ok, good | 22:25 |
davlaps | SumitNaiksatam: np. using quantum.sh script you should see all interface come up with ips.. | 22:26 |
bhall | SumitNaiksatam: that seems to be how the normal tty-linux image works.. are you seeing that with the tty-quantum image? | 22:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | bhall: yes | 22:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | bhall/davlaps: thats what I was trying to get confirmation on | 22:27 |
bhall | SumitNaiksatam: ok, I'll try it out today and see what happens in my setup | 22:27 |
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SumitNaiksatam | bhall/davlaps: thanks! | 22:27 |
bhall | ok.. anyone have anything else? | 22:28 |
bhall | ok.. see ya'll next week | 22:29 |
bhall | #endmeeting | 22:29 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 22:29:13 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-22.02.html | 22:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-22.02.txt | 22:29 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-03-20-22.02.log.html | 22:29 |
wwkeyboard | goodbye! | 22:29 |
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