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| jgriffith | cinder folks? | 16:01 |
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| sleepsonthefloor | heyo | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | Ok, I waited an extra two minutes... | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 16:02:52 2012 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | sleepsonthefloor: Hey | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | Ran into git troubles trying to get my stuff pushed to your Drafts :( | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | rebase problems | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | Think I've got most of it in now and will finish after the meeting | 16:04 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: You here? | 16:04 |
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| rnirmal | yeah sort of :) | 16:05 |
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| rnirmal | probably just listening in | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: whatever else you're doing can't possibly be as interesting or important :) | 16:05 |
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| rnirmal | yeah you bet | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | alrighty... likely have some stragglers as usual but it's 5 after so I'm going to run through status updates | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | #topic cinder-status | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder-status" | 16:06 | |
| jgriffith | Good progress over the last week | 16:06 |
| DuncanT | hi | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | sleepsonthefloor finished up a lot of work to get Keystone auth working | 16:06 |
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| jgriffith | also misc extensions for attach/detach etc | 16:07 |
| rnirmal | awesome | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | devstack is also coming along | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | I finished up some euca work yesterday | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | I'll be adding it to the review drafts that sleepsonthefloor has already created | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | after today you should be able to: | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | 1. patch a devstack install (with the review drafts) | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | 2. run nova using cinder as the volume service | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | 3. run euca tools having them use cinder volume service | 16:08 |
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| jgriffith | If folks have time this week it would be great to get some eyes/testing on this | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | There are some outstanding items I'll cover | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | I'm planning to send an update email to the OS ML later today | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | This will include some instructions on how to get a devstack env setup and running | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | List all the patches needed etc | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | Any folks interested in playing with it this week? | 16:10 |
| clayg | yes, I'd like too | 16:10 |
| clayg | ... but I haven't made the time yet :( | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | #action clayg spin up devstack/cinder and give feedback | 16:11 |
| DuncanT | Same | 16:11 |
| clayg | burn! :) | 16:11 |
| rnirmal | the notes would be really helpful.. I can't promise but will try | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | #action DuncanT spin up devstack/cinder and give feedback | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | Ok, so DuncanT and clayg you're on the hook to at least try it out this week at some point | 16:12 |
| liamk | I'll help DuncanT as well | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | I'll get the email with some instructions out later today/tonight | 16:12 |
| DuncanT | (Liam is a collegue of mine on the HP block store team) | 16:12 |
| liamk | thx for the intro duncan | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | liamk: How ya been? Not sure but I think we worked together briefly on a Linux driver? | 16:12 |
| clayg | jgriffith: will do | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | clayg: excellent! | 16:13 |
| liamk | Ah yes - wouldn't have made the link but yeah right I think | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | liamk: :) Small world! | 16:13 |
| liamk | indeed! | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | alrighty... any questions about status? Anybody want some more detail? | 16:14 |
| clayg | jgriffith: sorry I missed the start of the meeting - you got euca working with cinder? | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | clayg: Yes for the most part | 16:14 |
| clayg | jgriffith: awesome | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | create/describe volumes/snapshots | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | There's a problem I ran into this morning with delete that I have to look at | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | Also need to look at attach/detach but I think we're in pretty good shape | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | Also fixed an issue I introduced in the uuid conversion: | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | If you created a volume with cinderclient/novaclient, you wouldn't be able to find it with euca-descrive | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | describe!! | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | Anyway, that's set and should be good | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | If there's nothing specific on what we CAN do today, I'll go ahead and open it up to what's planned the rest of this week? | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | #topic Plans for this week | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Plans for this week" | 16:17 | |
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| jgriffith | Unit tests! | 16:17 |
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| jgriffith | We've got a number of patches in gerrit that are pretty close to ready with exception of unit tests | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | sleepsonthefloor is working on some of those, anybody with spare cycles/time it would be great if we could get some more folks writing tests | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | I'm planning to write some devstack exercises to use euca (surprisingly nothing there currently) | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | WRT volumes tha tis | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | We've actually got some of those | 16:20 |
| sleepsonthefloor | jgriffith - I added tests to most of the patches. nova is the one most lacking. | 16:20 |
| DuncanT | Can publish a tree and let you have a look | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: great, thanks! | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | sleepsonthefloor: awesome | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | The nova ones are the ones I started last week and will be interesting | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | I talked with clayg about this, but maybe others have input/suggestions | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | I created a "fake" volume api to use for tests | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | I had "hoped" to just set a flag to tell nova to use my fake for all of the unit tests | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | The idea was that there would be something global for everybody to use writing tests going forward | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | Also the hope was to be able to leverage as much of the existing tests as possible with minor tweaking | 16:22 |
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| jgriffith | Any thoughts on this approach? | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | I can tell you some of the problems I've had with it.... maybe somebody has ideas | 16:23 |
| sleepsonthefloor | jgriffith, do the original tests pass? | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | Original tests pass if we don't change the volume service | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | So all of the original tests for the most part are using their own fakes and direct DB calls | 16:24 |
| DuncanT | I assume your 'fake' driver will have to maintain enough state to spot errors like detaching something not attached etc? | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: So there's the first problem | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | Yes, that was how I set it up... but! | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | But for example: | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | We have ec2/api tests that would call the api set stuff up etc etc | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | Those tests then call ec2/cloud.py (for example) which instantiates a new instance of the API | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | So there's no shared state between them which breaks the test model I had in mind | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | Unless I do some temp DB specifically for the tests to share? | 16:26 |
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| jgriffith | Which makes me understand why folks did a lot of Stubs and Fakes in the current test suite :) | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | Anyway... that's the challenge I ran in to | 16:27 |
| DuncanT | I've not fully thought it out, but can't you just keep the state in a driver module variable (singleton pattern style) and add a call to reset it where necessary? | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | singleton is what we would want.... | 16:28 |
| DuncanT | It isn't destroying the whole python vm each test, is it? | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: Oh.. no, that's not what I meant | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: Singleton pattern would work, but would have to figure out how to tweak volume/__init__ etc | 16:29 |
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| jgriffith | big thing is I don't even know if this is the best approach? | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | It seemed good to me... but | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | was interested in other views? | 16:30 |
| DuncanT | I think that the current approach to stubbing misses many validation opportunities | 16:30 |
| DuncanT | So I'd like to see a smarter fake driver instead. I can definitely see real value to it. | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: The thing is we're still kinda stubbing, we just have a framework to use that makes it a bit cleaner and more robust IMO | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | We're just stubbing via abstraction :) | 16:31 |
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| DuncanT | Yeah, but the stub is less stubby and can do a bit more validation if it is common and getting reused | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | hehe exactly | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | makes tests MUCH more straight forward | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | FYI I'll want to do the same thing in Cinder itself at some point as well | 16:32 |
| DuncanT | Sounds like an excellent idea | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | Ok, I'll stick with the plan unless somebody thinks of something better | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | If anybody sees a good way to make a singleton pattern of a fake API served up from volume/__init__.py let me know | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | Ok, anything on plans for the week? | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | More importantly anybody have something they want to tackle this week? | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | booooo | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | #topic F2 items | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "F2 items" | 16:36 | |
| jgriffith | So remember we plan to have functional equivalent of nova-volume ready by F2 | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | I think we're on track for that still | 16:37 |
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| jgriffith | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/python-cinder-client | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/extract-nova-volumes | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | These two pretty much encompass the majority of it | 16:39 |
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| jgriffith | Both are being worked on and moving along well | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | Any thoughts/questions about F2? | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | #topic open-discussion | 16:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open-discussion" | 16:41 | |
| jgriffith | Alright, anybody have anything? | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | jmckenty: Just saw your email... sounds good. | 16:42 |
| jmckenty | thanks | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | I'm just a little confused about folks that have "begun" the blueprint process and working on things? | 16:42 |
| jmckenty | there were some major storage stakeholders who I knew were interested, | 16:42 |
| jmckenty | but are VERY late to the table | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | Haven't heard/seen any of this since the summit | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | I know | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | they don't really know how to get involved in a public discussion yet | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | I yelled at them | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | and basically said if they didn't join in Cinder this week, | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | cool | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | they were never going to be a part of openstack | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | And considering they're paying a lot of money to be in the foundation, | 16:43 |
| jmckenty | they ought to get involved | 16:43 |
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| jgriffith | jmckenty: Great, thanks for the help! | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | Ok, if nobody has anything I'm going to wrap it up | 16:44 |
| jmckenty | we aim to please | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | I'm always around so if you think of something, have questions grab me on IRC | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | Keep an eye out for reviews to start hitting | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | and I'll get the status email out shortly | 16:45 |
| clayg | thanks jgriffith | 16:45 |
| winston-d | jgriffith, hi, I'd like to help with cinder development. | 16:45 |
| winston-d | jgriffith, didn't know where to start | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | winston-d: Great! Perhaps we can chat after the meeting? | 16:45 |
| winston-d | jgriffith, sure. | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | Excellent | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | Alrighty... winston-d I'll ping you in a few minutes | 16:46 |
| jgriffith | everyone else, thanks for showing up this week | 16:46 |
| jgriffith | Keep an eye out for reviews to start hitting | 16:46 |
| jgriffith | Thanks, and see you next week! | 16:46 |
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| jgriffith | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 16:46:41 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-06-13-16.02.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-06-13-16.02.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-06-13-16.02.log.html | 16:46 |
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| johngarbutt | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 17:00:07 2012 UTC. The chair is johngarbutt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| johngarbutt | #topic XenAPI meeting | 17:00 |
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| johngarbutt | Anyone online for the XenAPI monthly meeting? | 17:00 |
| johngarbutt | Didn't get chance to send out reminders for this one, I might reschedule | 17:01 |
| johngarbutt | #topic Citrix XenAPI update | 17:01 |
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| johngarbutt | pushed live migration code as WIP review, finishing off tests from libvirt refactor | 17:02 |
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| johngarbutt | renuka is doing boot from volume for XenAPI | 17:02 |
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| johngarbutt | #endmeeting | 17:12 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-06-13-17.00.html | 17:12 |
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