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| primemin1sterp | pnavarro: pedro! | 14:48 |
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| primemin1sterp | hmm | 14:48 |
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| pnavarro | hi all | 14:49 |
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| primeministerp | Hyper-V meeting in 10 minutes | 14:49 |
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| EmilienM | thank's pnavarro for the great demo with Hyper-V and Nova :) | 14:57 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: awesome, more people seeing our work | 14:57 |
| primeministerp | meeting will begin in 3 minutes | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | I agree | 14:57 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: did he show you live migration? | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | not yet, but soon, isn't it pnavarro ? :P | 14:58 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: I'm assuming it was, he had the impromptu demo last week | 14:58 |
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| primeministerp | looks like he's having proxy issues | 14:59 |
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| EmilienM | he actually does | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | #startmeeting Hyper-V | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 28 15:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | Hi All, welcome to the weekly hyper-v meeting | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | This week will be a quick meeting from my end | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | I'm technically on "holiday", and Alessandro isn't going to attend | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | so.. we'll start by discussing the conference | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | Alessandro/Cloudbase is going to have a booth at the summit | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | all are encouraged to stop by | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | I will also be attending | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | we are looking to have 2 sessions | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | one a community building /demo | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | the other a technical deep dive | 15:02 |
| pnavarro_ | what about a session in the workshops? | 15:02 |
| primeministerp | I have submitted for the first, and alessandro will be submitting for the second | 15:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: feel free to put in sessions if you feel we are missing hyper-v coverage | 15:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: I believe Alessandro's session could be considered a workshop however maybe I'm off | 15:03 |
| pnavarro_ | ok, then | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: but feel free to add sessions | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: I'm not sure if they all will be accepted | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | obviously all people involved w/ the hyper-v work who are going to should plan on meeting up | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | ideally we have sessions to discuss our plans for the G release | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | our being the hyper-v development community | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | so that being said, | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | next topic | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | #topic general updates | 15:05 |
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| primeministerp | people should still be testing and looking for bugs | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | up until last week I have still been working on getting the deployment from source puppetized | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | it's is almost complete, realized we need to install the windows sdk to get some of the python deps built from source | 15:07 |
| primeministerp | cleanly | 15:07 |
| primeministerp | I'll continue to work on that once i get back, as well as finalizing the documenation | 15:07 |
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| primeministerp | is there anyone new from HP then meeting | 15:07 |
| primeministerp | I was told some individuals would be joining this week | 15:08 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro_: do you want to discuss the impromptu meetup you had? | 15:08 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: for the "record" | 15:08 |
| Hitesh | primeministerp: Hi | 15:09 |
| primeministerp | Hitesh: hello | 15:09 |
| pnavarro_ | yes, why not ! | 15:09 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: perfect | 15:09 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: how many people showed up, what did you discuss, all good places to start | 15:09 |
| Hitesh | pnavarro_: Hi Pedro | 15:09 |
| pnavarro_ | well, just EmilienM showed up, and we shared a demos about openstack HA and Hyper-V integration | 15:10 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: are you working on the HA bits? | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | primeministerp: I'm working on putting all OpenStack services in HA | 15:11 |
| pnavarro_ | well, it was quite improvised, bur for the next one will be more organized | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: corosync/pacemaker/openais? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | corosync/pacemaker/drbd | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: execelent, let me know if you need some help | 15:11 |
| Hitesh | pnavarro_: Great !!! where were this meetup held? | 15:12 |
| pnavarro_ | Hitesh: in Paris | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | kind of you primeministerp | 15:12 |
| Hitesh | pnavarro_: cool. | 15:12 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: i've spent a good chunk of my previous life building linux-ha clusters for virt | 15:12 |
| primeministerp | I'm a big fan of the drbd bits as well | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | oh really ? that's actually the best way to put something into production I guess | 15:13 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: my previous infrastructure ran all on xen/linux-ha clusters | 15:13 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: we used all types of storage | 15:13 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: but one of our clusters was ocfs2 on drbd | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | and the next one ? Hyper-V / OpenStack ? :) | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: ;) | 15:14 |
| * EmilienM working on OCFS2 right now, but having some troubles | 15:14 | |
| EmilienM | maybe we can talk in pm | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: what's the base distro | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: most definately | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | I prob still have some scripts | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | for building the cluster resources | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | and primatives | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: sync up after the meetign | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | ok :) | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM: in the openstack-hyper-v channel | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | ok | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: anything else to add | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: anything on your research into the cinder bits? | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro_: look like something that is doable ;) | 15:16 |
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| primeministerp | maybe he was disconnected again | 15:16 |
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| Hitesh | pnavarro_: Cinder is CI for swift right? | 15:17 |
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| primeministerp | Hitesh: no cinder is nova-volume as it's own service | 15:17 |
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| Hitesh | primeministerp: Oh..yes thanks | 15:18 |
| Hitesh | alexpilotti: Hi Alessandro | 15:18 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: didn't know you were here | 15:18 |
| alexpilotti | Hi guys | 15:18 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: anything to add before we call it | 15:18 |
| alexpilotti | Just logged in on my phone | 15:19 |
| alexpilotti | I'm traveling | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: gave a brief discussion of the topics | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: for the conf | 15:19 |
| alexpilotti | Ok great | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: pedro discussed his quick demo | 15:19 |
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| alexpilotti | Just in case somebody missed it, we're gonna be sponsors at the summit | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: mentioned that too | 15:20 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: I didn't have time to work more on cinder bits, maybe this night... | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: perfect, thanks for the update | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | Hitesh: have you decided to work on anything yet? | 15:20 |
| alexpilotti | Pedro: did you manage to add the driver as we discussed? :) | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | Hitesh: specific that is | 15:20 |
| pnavarro | no alexpilotti, no time to work on it | 15:21 |
| primeministerp | Hitesh: we still need help on docs as well if interested | 15:21 |
| alexpilotti | Ok guys, I have to drive, I pulled on a side to say "hi" :) | 15:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: perfecto, thanks | 15:21 |
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| primeministerp | ok all, | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | i'm calling it until next week | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 15:22 |
| alexpilotti | Tx, see you soon! | 15:22 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 28 15:22:23 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-08-28-15.00.html | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-08-28-15.00.txt | 15:22 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-08-28-15.00.log.html | 15:22 |
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| Hitesh | alexpilotti: cool | 15:25 |
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| Hitesh | primeministerp: | 15:27 |
| Hitesh | primeministerp: About puppet bits | 15:27 |
| Hitesh | primeministerp: I will go through your instruction, will play around some pp script | 15:28 |
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| Hitesh | primeministerp: Sorry seems some network issue, hence login on and off | 15:40 |
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| dolphm | o/ keystone meeting? | 18:03 |
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| gyee | \o | 18:04 |
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| heckj | o/ | 18:06 |
| heckj | #startmeeting | 18:06 |
| openstack | heckj: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:06 |
| heckj | sorry guys | 18:06 |
| heckj | #startmeeting | 18:06 |
| openstack | heckj: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:06 |
| heckj | #startmeeting keystone | 18:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 28 18:07:05 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:07 |
| heckj | Okay - new options :-) | 18:07 |
| heckj | ola y'all | 18:07 |
| dolphm | o/ | 18:07 |
| heckj | #topic hot issues | 18:07 |
| heckj | We have a CVE that we're doing some review work on - dolph, you've got the patches | 18:07 |
| heckj | dolphm: anything of note there other than the review process? | 18:08 |
| dolphm | nope, i wasn't quite aware of it either | 18:08 |
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| heckj | Any other burning issues? | 18:09 |
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| dolphm | i done broke gerrit | 18:09 |
| heckj | heh | 18:09 |
| dolphm | i'm not sure how to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12058/ into a well-understood state | 18:09 |
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| heckj | dolphm: is this the first cut into the feature patch? | 18:10 |
| heckj | er, feature branch? | 18:10 |
| dolphm | heckj: yes, technically | 18:10 |
| dolphm | i haven't another small patch i wanted to go in first, but i'm struggling with details | 18:11 |
| gyee | that will go into folsom? | 18:11 |
| dolphm | gyee: no | 18:11 |
| heckj | gyee: no - this is spcifically a feature branch | 18:11 |
| gyee | cool, lots of code to comb through :) | 18:11 |
| heckj | gyee: intended to be a branch that we can work and merge into external to the release process | 18:12 |
| heckj | then later we merge into mainline for a release | 18:12 |
| dolphm | heckj: gyee: there's corresponding keystoneclient changes i don't have a feature branch to push to as well | 18:12 |
| gyee | I'll finishup domains based on that branch then | 18:12 |
| heckj | dolphm: I saw the request go out - if we don't hear back from ttx on it, I'll poke him today | 18:13 |
| dolphm | gyee: hack away :) | 18:13 |
| dolphm | heckj: when we're ready for this to merge to master (... thinking ahead here) ... will we have a chance to see the entire feature branch as a single gerrit review before it merges? | 18:13 |
| dolphm | heckj: i'm thinking about how we should handle code reviews between now and then | 18:14 |
| heckj | dolphm: that's my understanding of this process so far - that the merge to master will be a monster rebase and single commit | 18:14 |
| dolphm | i.e. i wouldn't consider the above review master-merge-worthy as-is (falls short on test coverage, documentation, migrations, etc) | 18:15 |
| heckj | dolphm: I think we're doing reviews to merge into the feature branch - we can relax the tests and tools around it to allow us to "break things" while we're doing this development | 18:17 |
| heckj | then at some point down the road, we will choose to merge it back in and do that in close conjunction with the CI team | 18:18 |
| dolphm | heckj: i'd rather continue to run tests + pep8 etc, personally | 18:18 |
| heckj | dolphm: word | 18:18 |
| heckj | #action heckj to pester ttx for a feature branch on keystoneclient for V3 work | 18:18 |
| dolphm | heckj: mostly because this work should *not* affect things like devstack (which depends on v2), so those tests should continue to pass | 18:18 |
| * heckj nods | 18:19 | |
| heckj | good way to make sure it doesn't - I agree | 18:19 |
| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:19 |
| heckj | Any open discussion? | 18:19 |
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| heckj | Did David Chadwick make it here today? | 18:20 |
| dolphm | he's in the UK, no? | 18:21 |
| heckj | yeah, but said he'd be trying to connect | 18:21 |
| heckj | guess he's not making it as yet | 18:21 |
| heckj | I think last week he connected to a different IRC system (not freenode) | 18:21 |
| dolphm | ah, that's right | 18:22 |
| heckj | gyee: you have anything | 18:23 |
| heckj | ? | 18:23 |
| gyee | heckj, no, I took a couple of weeks off, slowly getting back to the flow of things :) | 18:24 |
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| heckj | If folks don't have anything else, I'll end this early today | 18:27 |
| dolphm | sounds good | 18:27 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 18:27 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 28 18:27:51 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-08-28-18.07.html | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-08-28-18.07.txt | 18:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-08-28-18.07.log.html | 18:27 |
| heckj | heading off IRC for a bit - will be back online later... | 18:29 |
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| jeblair | hi, anyone want to talk about ci stuff? | 18:59 |
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| LinuxJedi | maybe | 19:00 |
| clarkb | I am here | 19:00 |
| fungi | present and accounted for | 19:00 |
| LinuxJedi | no Shrews or mtaylor today | 19:00 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting ci | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 28 19:00:47 2012 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ci' | 19:00 |
| jeblair | so, i think we've talked about most of the current projects on the ML... | 19:01 |
| jeblair | clarkb is working on some issues with the SCP plugin that copies logs to the log server | 19:01 |
| * LinuxJedi should really read that this week | 19:01 | |
| jeblair | when we're satisfied with that, we'll cut back on the build history that jenkins keeps | 19:02 |
| jeblair | which should hopefully speed things up. | 19:02 |
| LinuxJedi | ++ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | as part of that work I have also gotten the nosetests html output to include skipped tests | 19:03 |
| jeblair | i'm working on getting the jobs to use the refs that zuul is composing, which should make gerrit-git-prep simpler, and actually allow us to switch to cherry-pick mode if needed. | 19:03 |
| jeblair | though it looks like there's a bug in zuul that i need to look at first | 19:04 |
| jeblair | (related to dequeuing failed changes) | 19:04 |
| jeblair | after that, i'd like to do some work to enable us to run multiple jenkins masters... | 19:05 |
| jeblair | i think dividing the load will help some.... | 19:05 |
| clarkb | jeblair: is that something zuul would need to be aware of? | 19:05 |
| jeblair | part of our problems, i think, stem from having so many slaves; this should cut down on the number of threads in use. | 19:05 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep | 19:05 |
| jeblair | clarkb: and maybe the jenkins job builder too. | 19:06 |
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| * LinuxJedi is looking forward to the multiple masters | 19:06 | |
| LinuxJedi | should make things easier to find :) | 19:06 |
| jeblair | i'm thinking that zuul should use gearman to dispatch jobs, and then there should be a little zuul agent on each master that handles interacting with jenkins. | 19:06 |
| LinuxJedi | so a project goes to a random jenkins rather than a jenkins per-project? | 19:07 |
| LinuxJedi | run goes to a random jenkins even | 19:08 |
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| jeblair | maybe, or, i've been thinking we could try having an oneiric, precise, and devstack jenkins... so split them up by node type | 19:08 |
| jeblair | but i think the general approach should be flexible, so we can split up the jenkinses however we need | 19:09 |
| jeblair | (side effect, this will tie zuul to jenkins slightly less -- things other than jenkins could join the gearman system) | 19:10 |
| jeblair | we also have some new zuul features -- the non-voting tests we talked about last week are live, and running for nova pylint | 19:11 |
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| jeblair | and i'm testing out running coverage that way too | 19:11 |
| jeblair | fungi has joined us | 19:12 |
| jeblair | welcome fungi! | 19:12 |
| fungi | thanks! | 19:12 |
| jeblair | fungi is looking into the trivial-rebase hook | 19:12 |
| jeblair | a long requested feature. | 19:12 |
| fungi | yeah, claimed on lp and mostly working on my dev vm | 19:13 |
| jeblair | awesome! | 19:13 |
| LinuxJedi | also mawagon1 and dkehn have joined us | 19:13 |
| fungi | my lack of prior exposure is biting me there, so i'm brushing up on gerrit hooks at the moment | 19:13 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think you'll become a gerrit expert fast with this one. :) | 19:13 |
| fungi | looks trivial enough | 19:14 |
| jeblair | heh | 19:14 |
| fungi | ;) | 19:14 |
| jeblair | anyone else have things they're working on they'd like to talk about? | 19:15 |
| fungi | i ran into a handful of things so far | 19:16 |
| fungi | http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/CITeamMeeting | 19:16 |
| fungi | i assume that's not updated regularly any longer? | 19:16 |
| fungi | or is there a more proper home for it? | 19:16 |
| jeblair | nope, our normal chair does not regularly update it. | 19:17 |
| jeblair | at least partially in response to that (there ore some others with similar habits), i updated meetbot to require a meeting nam | 19:17 |
| fungi | that works | 19:18 |
| LinuxJedi | and a name | 19:18 |
| jeblair | name, so future meetings will be findable in the directory structure | 19:18 |
| clarkb | on eavesdrop.openstack.org | 19:18 |
| jeblair | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ | 19:18 |
| jeblair | this one is already in progress. :) http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-08-28-19.00.log.txt | 19:19 |
| fungi | another trivial item... the gerrit initscript. should we add lsb headers, do you think? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | fungi: that might be a good patch for upstream gerrit | 19:20 |
| fungi | i would assume so | 19:20 |
| fungi | good point | 19:20 |
| fungi | i'll try to get a patch to them when i get a moment | 19:20 |
| clarkb | I think mtaylor may need to do something with their CLA | 19:21 |
| clarkb | seems like he had to add me after I got an account on their gerrit server | 19:21 |
| jeblair | yep, but that's an hp-specific thing we don't need to talk about in the openstack meeting. :) | 19:21 |
| clarkb | nevermind then | 19:22 |
| jeblair | fungi: what else ya got? | 19:22 |
| fungi | on a similar gerrit note, the instructions on the ci site assume debian (ubuntu) package management, but then use useradd instead of adduser | 19:22 |
| fungi | maybe just a personal nitpick | 19:23 |
| jeblair | fungi: we'll probably just drop that since it's all managed by puppet now | 19:23 |
| fungi | point taken | 19:23 |
| LinuxJedi | fungi: one is an alias of the other | 19:23 |
| jeblair | fungi: in the long run, we don't need installation instructions we don't use. that was how it was initially set up before we puppetized everything. | 19:23 |
| fungi | really? thought adduser was a wrapper with different semantics | 19:24 |
| fungi | jeblair: makes sense | 19:24 |
| fungi | anyway, that's all i have so far | 19:25 |
| jeblair | #topic open discussion | 19:25 |
| jeblair | (as if it hasn't been) | 19:25 |
| jeblair | anyone else? | 19:25 |
| LinuxJedi | MRaaS has been re-added to Stackforge | 19:26 |
| LinuxJedi | that is about all I remember | 19:26 |
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| jeblair | LinuxJedi: cool; you brought the jobs up to current standards, right? | 19:27 |
| jeblair | LinuxJedi: and are they committing yet? | 19:27 |
| LinuxJedi | jeblair: well 'job' only the merge one for now. I haven't seen them committing yet, I have been teaching them how git/gerrit/everything works... | 19:27 |
| LinuxJedi | jeblair: it is a Java project so we have to figure out how to test that at some point | 19:28 |
| jeblair | lovely | 19:28 |
| jeblair | oh, keystone has a feature branch | 19:29 |
| jeblair | so there is now a feature/keystone-v3 branch in gerrit | 19:29 |
| jeblair | we're experimenting with letting the keystone-drivers group land merge commits there, to keep it going as a long running feature branch | 19:30 |
| jeblair | that will eventually merge into master, some time during grizzly i expect | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | they are pushing directly to the branch? | 19:30 |
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| jeblair | no, it's still code reviewed in gerrit | 19:31 |
| jeblair | the difference is that group has an acl that lets them upload a merge commit | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritJenkinsGithub#Merge_Commits | 19:31 |
| jeblair | there's the preliminary documentation on that. | 19:31 |
| jeblair | this is something we discussed a bit at the last summit, but this is the first time it's been requested | 19:32 |
| jeblair | so it's still pretty experimental. | 19:32 |
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| jeblair | but because of the way we write all of the jenkins jobs, etc, it shouldn't require any extra support. | 19:32 |
| jeblair | anything else? | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | i reckon that's it then, thanks! | 19:38 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:38 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 28 19:38:14 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-08-28-19.00.html | 19:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-08-28-19.00.txt | 19:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-08-28-19.00.log.html | 19:38 |
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| markmc | hey all | 21:01 |
| markmc | roll up, roll up | 21:01 |
| markmc | #startmeeting project | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 28 21:01:44 2012 UTC. The chair is markmc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:01 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: I'm here! | 21:01 |
| markmc | ttx has put me in charge, run away :) | 21:02 |
| markmc | bcwaldon, thanks | 21:02 |
| jgriffith | Howdy | 21:02 |
| gabrielhurley | markmc: I'll be representing Horizon today. | 21:02 |
| markmc | who else? | 21:02 |
| markmc | gabrielhurley, cool | 21:02 |
| markmc | heckj, vishy, notmyname, ? | 21:02 |
| annegentle | o/ | 21:02 |
| markmc | #info We are under FeatureFreeze for everything but Swift, so please take extra care in reviews | 21:02 |
| markmc | #info Core reviewers should flag changes that add a new feature, modify the behavior without fixing a bug, modify translatable strings or add/modify a configuration option | 21:02 |
| markmc | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/FolsomReleaseSchedule | 21:02 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:02 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:02 |
| notmyname | here | 21:02 |
| markmc | awesome | 21:02 |
| markmc | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:03 |
| markmc | ok, these were all project specific | 21:03 |
| markmc | will cover them in the project sections | 21:03 |
| markmc | oh ... anyone with time constraints that want to go first? | 21:03 |
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| markmc | ok | 21:03 |
| markmc | #topic Keystone status | 21:03 |
| markmc | action - heckj to go through keystone buglist and target release blockers to RC1 where appropriate | 21:03 |
| heckj | will do | 21:03 |
| markmc | looks like you've made progress on that? | 21:04 |
| heckj | currently working against a security fix that will be going in (and backported to essex/stable) | 21:04 |
| markmc | that was last weeks action | 21:04 |
| markmc | cool | 21:04 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:04 |
| heckj | reviewed, but doing it each week to keep track of new bugs reported | 21:04 |
| markmc | cool | 21:04 |
| markmc | there's a bunch of high priority bugs not targeted | 21:04 |
| markmc | should any of those be targeted to rc1? | 21:04 |
| heckj | markmc: many of those can't be resolved without API changes I'm afraid | 21:05 |
| markmc | heckj, ah, interesting | 21:05 |
| markmc | heckj, incompat API changes, or just API additions? | 21:05 |
| heckj | we've got two criticals that are in flight - those will be targeted | 21:05 |
| heckj | incompat API changes | 21:05 |
| markmc | ah | 21:06 |
| markmc | we've been talking about how to handle them for nova too | 21:06 |
| markmc | maybe a blueprint for the next major API version to coallate them | 21:06 |
| markmc | would be nice to figure out how to get them off the high priority list | 21:06 |
| heckj | markmc - that's exactly where we have them targetted now - feature branch is in progress with V3 API to resolve | 21:06 |
| markmc | cool, ok | 21:06 |
| markmc | anything else of concern? | 21:07 |
| markmc | solid progress towards rc1? | 21:07 |
| markmc | any help needed? | 21:07 |
| heckj | uncertain of the doc status for deployment style documentation - need to review that deeply. Could definitely use some help there | 21:07 |
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| markmc | heckj, got a link? | 21:08 |
| heckj | i believe raphael has been doing some of that | 21:08 |
| * heckj looking | 21:08 | |
| annegentle | #help keystone deployment style documentation needed | 21:08 |
| heckj | yeah - no blueprint or link | 21:08 |
| markmc | thanks annegentle :) | 21:08 |
| * markmc moves on | 21:08 | |
| markmc | thanks heckj | 21:08 |
| markmc | #topic Swift status | 21:08 |
| markmc | notmyname, hey | 21:09 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:09 |
| markmc | last weeks action - notmyname to send an email to openstack-dev with 2.0 thoughts | 21:09 |
| markmc | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-August/000919.html | 21:09 |
| markmc | that's it ^^ ? | 21:09 |
| notmyname | yup, done | 21:09 |
| markmc | cool | 21:09 |
| markmc | so 1.7.0 targetted mid september? | 21:09 |
| notmyname | tentatively schedule for sept 13 for the folsom RC. I'm not sure how QA will go. but QA takes priority over the date | 21:10 |
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| markmc | cool, ok | 21:10 |
| notmyname | "how it will go" == "potential scheduling difficulty" | 21:10 |
| markmc | how far could QA push the date out potentially? a week? more? | 21:10 |
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| markmc | also, planning on adding a milestone page and targeting bugs etc. ? | 21:11 |
| * markmc isn't sure if swift uses such things | 21:11 | |
| notmyname | I don't know right now. since the QA is RAX internal for now, it's up to the internal schedules of RAX cloud files team | 21:11 |
| * annegentle notes last week's hint at a 1.6.1 from ttx | 21:11 | |
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| annegentle | 21:15:40 <ttx> if there are so many changes it might make sense to include 1.6.1 in Folsom | 21:12 |
| markmc | ah, good point | 21:12 |
| markmc | notmyname, is that feasible as a backup plan? | 21:12 |
| annegentle | does anyone here know if 1.7 is acceptable by packagers? | 21:12 |
| notmyname | as of right now, folsom would include either 1.6.0 or 1.7.0 with a strong preference to 1.7 | 21:12 |
| notmyname | there is no such thing yet as 1.6.1 | 21:12 |
| markmc | likely to have a more clear picture next week? | 21:13 |
| notmyname | I would hope so | 21:14 |
| markmc | at some point soon I guess we'd have to just say it'll be 1.6.0 | 21:14 |
| markmc | since folks will need some notice of what to expect in folsom | 21:14 |
| markmc | ok, revisit next week then | 21:14 |
| markmc | anything else? | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | I don't think so. | 21:15 |
| markmc | ok, thanks | 21:15 |
| markmc | #topic Glance status | 21:15 |
| markmc | mr bcwaldon | 21:15 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: yes sir | 21:15 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:15 |
| markmc | glance seems in good shape? | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: yes, very | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | I could use some help on the oustanding review, though! | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | reviews* | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | ! | 21:16 |
| markmc | #help glance needs review help! | 21:16 |
| markmc | bug #1039818 has no assignee - is that something you'd like nova folks to handle? | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1039818 in glance "v2 API should provide image properties Nova depends on" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039818 | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: if somebody wants to take it on, I'd be more than happy | 21:17 |
| markmc | #help someone from nova could help with bug #1039818 | 21:17 |
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| * markmc hands gold star to bcwaldon | 21:17 | |
| markmc | anything else? | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: aw, thanks | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: not from me | 21:17 |
| markmc | cool | 21:18 |
| markmc | #topic Quantum status | 21:18 |
| markmc | last weeks actions ... | 21:18 |
| markmc | danwent/ttx to discuss XML support FFE status | 21:18 |
| markmc | danwent and team to triage all bugs and build the RC bug list | 21:18 |
| markmc | danwent, oh hai - forgot to ask are you there? | 21:18 |
| danwent | done and one | 21:18 |
| danwent | done | 21:18 |
| danwent | i am now :) | 21:18 |
| markmc | cool | 21:18 |
| markmc | so no FFE for XML support? | 21:18 |
| danwent | nope. we did a purge of a lot of things that were iffy yesterday so we could focus on core functionality and docs | 21:19 |
| danwent | that was one of the victims | 21:19 |
| markmc | #info no FFE for XML support | 21:19 |
| markmc | ok | 21:19 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:19 |
| markmc | only one bp remaining ... test-agent? | 21:19 |
| danwent | yes, an that is testing only, so not a big deal. we need it to get better devstack coverage though, which is why we're keeping it in folsom | 21:19 |
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| danwent | there is one bug that i wanted to highlight though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1039400 | 21:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1039400 in quantum "nova security groups issues with quantum-v2-api integration" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:20 |
| danwent | the complexity of the interaction between quantum + nova security groups is worse than we thought | 21:20 |
| danwent | Salvatore is working on this. The change should be contained to quantum-specific code in nova, but I wanted to give the nova folks a heads up | 21:20 |
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| markmc | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1039400 - nova security groups issues with quantum-v2-api integration | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1039400 in quantum "nova security groups issues with quantum-v2-api integration" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| markmc | ok, a bit much to digest at first glance, but sounds scary | 21:22 |
| markmc | eta on patches? | 21:22 |
| danwent | hoping by thursday | 21:22 |
| markmc | ok | 21:22 |
| markmc | how bad is it if it doesn't make it? | 21:22 |
| danwent | pretty bad :) | 21:22 |
| markmc | yeah, especially since this is the first release with quantum in core | 21:22 |
| danwent | yup. | 21:22 |
| markmc | anything else of concern on the nova integration front? | 21:23 |
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| danwent | this is very do-able, i just feel bad b/c nova core devs will have to reivew | 21:23 |
| * markmc sees some good discussion on-list | 21:23 | |
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| danwent | other than that, docs are actually my biggest concern | 21:23 |
| markmc | quantum docs in general, or nova/quantum integration docs? | 21:24 |
| danwent | quantum docs in general. so much has changed since essex. | 21:24 |
| danwent | garyk, salvatore and I are point on this. | 21:24 |
| markmc | ok, and you're looking for more help? | 21:24 |
| annegentle | danwent: you do have a nice outline going for the admin docs. But I share your concerns, esp. since nova-network has to remain documented in the Compute Admin guide. | 21:24 |
| danwent | annegentle: agreed. | 21:25 |
| annegentle | danwent: your API guide looks to be in good shape, is that a good assessment? | 21:25 |
| danwent | markmc: i'll be pinging core devs for help on sections that they wrote the feature | 21:25 |
| danwent | just mentioning it as a risk | 21:25 |
| markmc | ok, thanks | 21:25 |
| danwent | annegentle: yes, salv-orlando rocked on that one. | 21:25 |
| danwent | this is more admin guide that i'm concerned about. install, setup, basic use cases, etc. | 21:25 |
| markmc | on the test-agent bp, are you looking to extend FFE by another week? | 21:26 |
| annegentle | #help admin and deployment docs for Quantum needed (install, setup, basic use cases, etc.) | 21:26 |
| markmc | FFE technically ends today | 21:26 |
| markmc | but as you said, it's for testing | 21:26 |
| danwent | no. i've told nati that it has to be merged by thursday, or its out. | 21:26 |
| markmc | ok, good | 21:26 |
| markmc | anything else? | 21:26 |
| danwent | not that i can think of | 21:26 |
| gabrielhurley | quick note related to quantum-nova integration, this review is blocking a possible FFE blueprint for horizon (public network support): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11796/ I know people are working on it, I just wanted to call it out. | 21:26 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: thanks for pointing that out | 21:27 |
| markmc | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11796/ blocking horizon's public network support | 21:27 |
| markmc | ok | 21:28 |
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| markmc | #topic Cinder status | 21:28 |
| markmc | last weeks action ... | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | :) | 21:28 |
| markmc | jgriffith and Cinder team to triage new bugs and come up with a list of release blockers | 21:28 |
| markmc | looks like you've done some of that? | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1038062 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1038062 in cinder "TgtAdm is broken" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | That's the last blocker (for now) | 21:29 |
| markmc | jgriffith, blocker but unprioritized and not targeted? :) | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | We're closer, but not where I want it yet | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | markmc: Doh.. fixing now | 21:29 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:29 |
| jgriffith | done | 21:30 |
| markmc | #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1038062 "TgtAdm is broken" is a blocker | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1038062 in cinder "TgtAdm is broken" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:30 |
| markmc | jgriffith, how concerned are you about #1038062? | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | I'll have it fixed in the next 24 hours | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | Just how much it's going to take to fix it | 21:30 |
| markmc | ok, cool | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | I may end up dropping the iscsi_targets table | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | depending on the screams that result | 21:31 |
| markmc | implications of dropping the table? | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | I should probably get with vishy offline and advice | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | Means changing the way we manage iscsi connections | 21:31 |
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| jgriffith | specifically the delete aspect | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | trouble is the new persistent targets won't let us specify a tid on creation | 21:32 |
| markmc | ok, not following the detail here | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | So in a nutshell: | 21:32 |
| markmc | hope we have something figured out by next week, sounds scary | 21:32 |
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| jgriffith | I have it figured out, just hoping to find a less disruptive fix | 21:33 |
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| markmc | doh | 21:33 |
| gabrielhurley | markmc: lol... so scary you had to leave? ;-) | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 21:33 |
| markmc | heh | 21:33 |
| * markmc blames gnome :) | 21:33 | |
| jgriffith | I can provide more detail if desired, or offline | 21:33 |
| markmc | jgriffith, btw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1041334 is targeted but not prioritized | 21:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1041334 in tempest "lvremove failure on volume delete when creating and deleting volumes with the same name" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | This is actually the same bug | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | same root cause at any rate | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | I'll update to reflect that | 21:34 |
| markmc | heh, ok | 21:34 |
| markmc | also, there's 8 untriaged bugs still which is a fairly high proportion | 21:34 |
| markmc | would be good to make sure there's nothing terrifying in there | 21:35 |
| markmc | ok, cool stuff | 21:35 |
| markmc | anything else? | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | there minimal issues, all in review | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | nope... just telling people NO on new features now :( | 21:35 |
| markmc | that's a good plan | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | If Ben doesn't fix his two I'll just fix them end of week and close them | 21:36 |
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| markmc | jgriffith, by untriaged, I meant these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | yep, I'll clean those up as well | 21:36 |
| markmc | cool, ok | 21:36 |
| markmc | thanks jgriffith | 21:37 |
| markmc | #topic Nova status | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | thank you! | 21:37 |
| markmc | vishy! | 21:37 |
| markmc | last weeks actions ... | 21:37 |
| markmc | 1) nova-core and ttx to review FFE for entry point stuff by Thursday | 21:37 |
| markmc | that's done, decided to delay until grizzly | 21:37 |
| markmc | 2) vishy to find a way to get untriaged bugcount to 0 | 21:37 |
| markmc | we've made solid enough progress, but still have ~50 untriaged | 21:37 |
| markmc | down from ~110 last week AFAIR | 21:38 |
| markmc | #help nova needs bug triagers! | 21:38 |
| markmc | vishy, there? | 21:38 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:38 |
| vishy | hi | 21:38 |
| markmc | ok, we had 2 FFEs | 21:39 |
| markmc | os-api-network-create and project-specific-flavors | 21:39 |
| markmc | both merged, right? | 21:39 |
| vishy | yes | 21:39 |
| vishy | just marked the other implemented | 21:39 |
| markmc | great, thanks | 21:39 |
| vishy | we are past feature freeze and into bug fixing now | 21:39 |
| markmc | awesome | 21:40 |
| markmc | how are we looking on the bugs front? | 21:40 |
| * markmc notes 7 unassigned targeted bugs | 21:40 | |
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| markmc | the unfixed high/critical ones look mostly related to quantum | 21:41 |
| vishy | these are mostly new | 21:41 |
| vishy | I haven't looked over them yet | 21:41 |
| markmc | ok, well only 1 critical is promising | 21:42 |
| markmc | bug triage seems to be the big concern | 21:42 |
| markmc | anything else you're particularly concerned about? | 21:42 |
| markmc | or need help with? | 21:42 |
| vishy | xml :) | 21:42 |
| markmc | that clown show? | 21:43 |
| markmc | ok, I guess we cover that in the thursday meetings | 21:43 |
| markmc | do you see it as a release blocker? | 21:43 |
| markmc | we're not talking regressions here, are we? | 21:43 |
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| vishy | markmc: not regressions | 21:43 |
| vishy | markmc: just trying to find out what works and fix the broken parts | 21:44 |
| markmc | ok, well that probably moves it out of release blocker territory | 21:44 |
| markmc | i.e. if we could release essex with broken xml ... :) | 21:44 |
| markmc | but would be awesome to have it in good shape | 21:44 |
| markmc | vishy, how aware of you about what's going on on the quantum integration front? | 21:45 |
| markmc | that sounds like release blocker territory | 21:45 |
| * markmc hasn't been following closely | 21:45 | |
| vishy | markmc: I agree. I need to sync up with danwent and find out | 21:45 |
| markmc | vishy, ok, cool | 21:45 |
| markmc | vishy, and note jgriffith's cinder/iscsi issue above | 21:46 |
| markmc | ok, good | 21:46 |
| markmc | overall, not terrifying | 21:46 |
| markmc | which is probably as good as it gets with nova :) | 21:46 |
| danwent | vishy: its not all that serious. just that there will be a non-trivial review headed your way later this week. | 21:46 |
| vishy | danwent: ok | 21:47 |
| danwent | vishy: wil ping you offline | 21:47 |
| vishy | danwent: great | 21:47 |
| markmc | anything else? | 21:47 |
| markmc | cool | 21:47 |
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| markmc | #topic Horizon status | 21:47 |
| markmc | gabrielhurley, hey | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | Aye sir | 21:47 |
| markmc | any FFEs? you mentioned the quantum public network support? | 21:48 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:48 |
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| gabrielhurley | yep, there's a review pending for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-public-network | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | blocked by the nova review I linked earlier | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | it's pretty minor as far as an FFE, so if the others land I'll see to it that it's good | 21:48 |
| markmc | cool | 21:49 |
| markmc | are you happy to land it before the nova patch? | 21:49 |
| markmc | e.g. if we know the nova API for it won't change? | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | no, if that doesn't go in the horizon feature is a no-go | 21:49 |
| markmc | ok | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | so I'd rather see everything else land first just to be safe | 21:49 |
| markmc | sounds like there's good progress there, so hopefully it and the horizon patch will land by this time next week | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | that's my impression | 21:50 |
| jgriffith | ls | 21:50 |
| markmc | cool | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | bug-wise, we didn't fix as many this week as I'd have liked, but new ones aren't being reported at any alarming rate and what's left are minor, so that's a positive sign. | 21:50 |
| markmc | yeah, was about to say | 21:50 |
| markmc | a bunch targeted but no critical/high | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | I've been on top of the triage as they come in | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | the list is only +1 since last week | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | I've spent more time supporting people on Essex, lol | 21:51 |
| markmc | the high priority bugs are all grizzly? | 21:51 |
| markmc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=High&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed | 21:51 |
| markmc | uggh, nasty link | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | that's a n awful URL | 21:51 |
| markmc | just clicked on the "High importance bugs" link | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, those are all for later | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | one of those is fixed... | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | that needs to be bumped into Folsom | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | target fixed | 21:52 |
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| markmc | just a bit odd for high priority bugs to not be targeted :) | 21:52 |
| markmc | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/961761 has been around for 6+ months | 21:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 961761 in horizon "If nova-network is down, Access and Security panel hangs" [High,Confirmed] | 21:52 |
| markmc | anyhow | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | what, you expect long-term planning? ;-) | 21:52 |
| markmc | awesome job on triaging :) | 21:53 |
| markmc | want to help with nova triaging? :) | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | 961761 is one of those "there's not really much to do about it" bugs. | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | ha, no thanks | 21:53 |
| markmc | anything else on horizon? | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | not that I can think of. things are good. | 21:53 |
| markmc | thanks | 21:53 |
| markmc | #topic Other team reports (docs, CI...) | 21:53 |
| annegentle | o/ | 21:53 |
| markmc | hey | 21:53 |
| annegentle | Our bug/task list is triaged for folsom | 21:54 |
| markmc | got a link? | 21:54 |
| annegentle | about 24 bugs/tasks marked High | 21:54 |
| annegentle | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/folsom | 21:54 |
| annegentle | I want to note that 10 of them are noting the lack of Compute API extension documents. | 21:54 |
| annegentle | I'm also seeking design work on api.openstack.org to give it navigation and direct links. | 21:54 |
| annegentle | #help design work on api.openstack.org to give it navigation and direct links | 21:55 |
| annegentle | #help review docs at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals,n,z | 21:55 |
| annegentle | that's all I got! | 21:55 |
| markmc | ok, cool stuff | 21:55 |
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| markmc | things are in good shape? or desperately need help? | 21:55 |
| annegentle | oh I'm a worrier so I tend towards the desperately need help :) | 21:56 |
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| markmc | heh, ok | 21:56 |
| markmc | thanks annegentle | 21:56 |
| annegentle | we're relying heavily on projects (Quantum, Keystone, and Cinder) to do their own doc work and reviews | 21:56 |
| markmc | ok - danwent and heckj did mention that | 21:57 |
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| markmc | jgriffith, you aware that you guys are on the hook for cinder docs? | 21:57 |
| jgriffith | Oh yes | 21:57 |
| markmc | heh, ok | 21:57 |
| jgriffith | :) | 21:57 |
| markmc | any other teams to report? | 21:58 |
| * markmc has nothing much on stable branch or openstack-common front | 21:58 | |
| markmc | both need help with reviews | 21:58 |
| markmc | ok, moving on ... | 21:58 |
| markmc | #topic Open discussion | 21:58 |
| markmc | anybody? | 21:58 |
| annegentle | 8/30 is the deadline for proposals for the non-blueprinty side of the Summit | 21:59 |
| markmc | #info 8/30 is the deadline for proposals for the non-blueprinty side of the Summit | 21:59 |
| markmc | indeedy | 21:59 |
| annegentle | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/san-diego-2012/call-for-speakers/ | 21:59 |
| markmc | so, I guess there was non-blueprinty stuff at last years summit | 22:00 |
| markmc | should that kind of stuff move to this part of the conf? | 22:00 |
| * annegentle is allergic to "conference" | 22:00 | |
| markmc | or is it roughly the same as last year? | 22:00 |
| annegentle | it's all the Summit this time, just different ways to propose talks and more tracks | 22:00 |
| * markmc admits to being slightly confused :) | 22:01 | |
| annegentle | #info tax will open proposal system for blueprint talks around Sept. 7th | 22:01 |
| annegentle | not tax. anyway. :) | 22:01 |
| markmc | #info ttx will open proposal system for blueprint talks around Sept. 7th | 22:01 |
| markmc | :) | 22:01 |
| markmc | ok, thanks | 22:01 |
| markmc | meeting over, except I should go back over and add action items | 22:02 |
| markmc | thanks everyone | 22:02 |
| markmc | is there another meeting now? | 22:02 |
| markmc | meh, I'll add action items to the wiki :) | 22:02 |
| markmc | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 28 22:02:47 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-08-28-21.01.html | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-08-28-21.01.txt | 22:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-08-28-21.01.log.html | 22:02 |
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