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| annegentle | anyone ready for the doc meeting? | 19:59 |
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| * annegentle gathers notes | 19:59 | |
| dwcramer | I'm here. | 19:59 |
| kpepple_ | present | 20:00 |
| * clarkb lurks | 20:00 | |
| annegentle | nice. let's get going then | 20:00 |
| annegentle | #start meeting Doc/Web meeting | 20:00 |
| annegentle | er | 20:01 |
| annegentle | #startmeeting Doc/Web meeting | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 10 20:01:09 2012 UTC. The chair is annegentle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'doc_web_meeting' | 20:01 |
| annegentle | nice underbars | 20:01 |
| annegentle | Agenda at http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting | 20:01 |
| annegentle | #topic Action items from last meeting | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting" | 20:01 | |
| annegentle | #info Done - Anne to send a memo to the mailing list about doc planning for Compute | Storage | Networking | 20:01 |
| annegentle | I've been sending weekly updates, has anyone any feedback on those? | 20:02 |
| annegentle | ok, moving alon | 20:03 |
| annegentle | along | 20:03 |
| annegentle | #topic Folsom doc bugs status | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Folsom doc bugs status" | 20:03 | |
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| annegentle | We're now at 18 open High priority doc bugs targeted for Folsom, down from 34 last week. | 20:03 |
| annegentle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/folsom | 20:03 |
| annegentle | Nice work. Two of those 18 are related to Quantum docs which are definitely making progress. | 20:04 |
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| annegentle | We're still at 112 open bugs overall, 31 marked High, so plenty of work to be done. | 20:05 |
| annegentle | #info We're still at 112 open bugs overall, 31 marked High, so plenty of work to be done. | 20:05 |
| annegentle | #topic Summit planning | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit planning" | 20:05 | |
| annegentle | #info The doc track has three 40-minute slots. | 20:06 |
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| annegentle | #info Submit topics at summit.openstack.org | 20:06 |
| annegentle | does anyone have any doc blueprints or topics for discussion? | 20:07 |
| annegentle | #link http://summit.openstack.org | 20:07 |
| annegentle | #info The sessions are allocated for first thing Monday morning, 9:30-lunchtime | 20:07 |
| annegentle | I can definitely move on to blueprints then if no one has any suggestions for topics. I'd welcome doc topics. | 20:08 |
| annegentle | #topic Blueprint status | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint status" | 20:09 | |
| dwcramer | Question (back on doc topics) | 20:09 |
| annegentle | sure go ahead | 20:09 |
| dwcramer | Are there any doc tools related things people would like to know about? | 20:09 |
| annegentle | I think a doc tools session would be interesting, do you want me to find out questions ahead of time? | 20:10 |
| wabat | Do we mean tools like Oxygen? | 20:10 |
| dwcramer | Yes. I was thinking there might be some specific topic...like a tutorial on foo. | 20:10 |
| annegentle | Often we use the sessions for blueprints, maybe we do a doc tools session to come up with a blueprint or two? | 20:10 |
| dwcramer | Sure. | 20:10 |
| dwcramer | I haven't been to the summit before, so I don't know what usually goes on. | 20:11 |
| dwcramer | wabat: Sure, like Oxygen or the clouddocs plugin. | 20:11 |
| annegentle | This summit is going to be a good mix of "how to" and "blueprints" | 20:11 |
| wabat | I for one would love more info on using Oxygen | 20:12 |
| annegentle | this specific track is for future planning but can certainly be used for "how to" | 20:12 |
| kpepple_ | +1 for wabat | 20:12 |
| annegentle | cool. dwcramer with a Launchpad login you can propose on the summit.openstack.org site | 20:12 |
| dwcramer | Ok, will do. | 20:12 |
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| wabat | What about information gathering for docs content? | 20:13 |
| annegentle | #action dwcramer to propose a doc tool how-to session for Summit | 20:13 |
| annegentle | wabat: ah that's a good one, it's tough to know how/who to ask | 20:13 |
| wabat | Exactly | 20:13 |
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| wabat | I've run into many roadblocks due to this | 20:13 |
| annegentle | wabat: esp. for some of the doc bugs (nearly all the ones not yet triaged) | 20:13 |
| wabat | Yes, it's hard to put an answer to something that you may not have the full knowledge of | 20:14 |
| annegentle | wabat: mostly people email the mailing list so far, or ask coworkers, but it would be good to discuss | 20:14 |
| wabat | Summit topic or no? | 20:14 |
| annegentle | wabat: thinking… might not be enough for 40 minutes? | 20:15 |
| wabat | YEah, I agree. PErhaps something else mixed in? | 20:15 |
| annegentle | I think that bug triaging is related… as in, if you can get enough info into the doc bug itself, you're not so stuck. | 20:15 |
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| wabat | So bug triage and how to get answers | 20:16 |
| annegentle | Maybe a session about triaging doc bugs and how to get enough info to triage them and update docs. | 20:16 |
| annegentle | yup | 20:16 |
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| wabat | Sounds like a session unless anyone objects | 20:16 |
| annegentle | Sure, can you propose it? | 20:17 |
| annegentle | Even if you don't have all the answers? :) | 20:17 |
| wabat | Yes I can | 20:17 |
| annegentle | Ok, great | 20:17 |
| annegentle | #action wabat to propose a doc bug triage and information seeking session for Summit | 20:17 |
| annegentle | Ok, let's switch to blueprint status as it could also give ideas for the Summit. | 20:17 |
| annegentle | We had four blueprints not really "targeted" for Folsom but certainly being discussed since the last design summit. | 20:18 |
| annegentle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/openstack-operations-manual | 20:18 |
| annegentle | This is the operations manual, we now have an outlined structure ready to go at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10487/ | 20:19 |
| annegentle | #help Fill in the outline structure at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10487/ for an operations manual | 20:19 |
| annegentle | Another blueprint is content sharing, we have a proof of concept and could demo it at the summit. | 20:20 |
| annegentle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/design-content-sharing | 20:20 |
| annegentle | dwcramer: We presented the concept of content sharing at the last summit, not sure if we should do a show-n-tell, probably so! | 20:21 |
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| annegentle | dwcramer: seems like it would fit into the doc tools session | 20:21 |
| annegentle | Another one is the Deployment template, not really finished though. A couple of reasons for that I think… | 20:21 |
| dwcramer | Sure. | 20:22 |
| annegentle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/deployment-template | 20:22 |
| annegentle | TryStack rolled out 2 deployments on Essex, neither was really documented though. | 20:22 |
| annegentle | And MediaWiki, another candidate for a deployment template, mostly did a migration in the last 4-6 months. | 20:22 |
| annegentle | so those contributing factors affected what we can do for a deployment template as those were the two I was hoping to document… | 20:23 |
| annegentle | still, would welcome more ideas on how to handle - I still think it's a good idea, to document example deployments. | 20:23 |
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| annegentle | just need some examples that aren't in flux I guess? | 20:24 |
| annegentle | And then the last two blueprints are more "implementation" related than content alone, API try-it-out and metadata in docs. | 20:25 |
| annegentle | The person who created a prototype has a team of grad students who may be able to work on the API try-it-out implementation, still waiting a response from him. | 20:25 |
| annegentle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/api-try-it-out | 20:25 |
| annegentle | Adding metadata to doc output helps with troubleshooting output. Not crucial but a nice-to-have. | 20:26 |
| annegentle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/doc-metadata | 20:26 |
| annegentle | Metadata might be a good part of the doc tools session as well? | 20:27 |
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| annegentle | That's it for blueprints. Any questions? | 20:27 |
| annegentle | Any more blueprints someone wants to propose? | 20:27 |
| annegentle | Ok, next topic. | 20:29 |
| annegentle | #topic Doc tools status | 20:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc tools status" | 20:29 | |
| annegentle | Here's a collection of what the tools team is working on this sprint: | 20:29 |
| annegentle | http://bit.ly/Q9eGsu | 20:29 |
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| annegentle | These should offer better troubleshooting for doc builds, I think. | 20:30 |
| annegentle | dwcramer: anything to add? | 20:30 |
| dwcramer | Nope...hopeful that we can get those done in the next couple of weeks. | 20:31 |
| annegentle | ok, great. I'll open it up for open discussion then. | 20:31 |
| annegentle | #topic Open discussion | 20:31 |
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| wabat | I have something | 20:31 |
| annegentle | sure, go ahead | 20:31 |
| wabat | My company has me currently working on a different project | 20:32 |
| wabat | They've not really allowed me the time I need to get more involved with the docs | 20:32 |
| annegentle | wabat: rats! | 20:32 |
| wabat | When I can it's usually on the weekend | 20:32 |
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| annegentle | wabat: too bad, but appreciate you saying so. It's funny, I get a ton of doc reviews on Friday nights (my time). | 20:32 |
| annegentle | So I think there are others in the same boat | 20:33 |
| wabat | Is there anyboday on the weekends who I can go to for answers? | 20:33 |
| annegentle | hm, not really on IRC, but the mailing list usually gets responses | 20:33 |
| wabat | Okay, I'll give that a shot | 20:34 |
| kpepple_ | simple question here: since we are after RC freeze, do I need to create a bug to get something changed in the manuals ? or can I just fire it up to gerrit ? | 20:34 |
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| annegentle | kpepple_: no need for a bug, just fire it up to gerrit | 20:35 |
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| kpepple_ | thx | 20:35 |
| annegentle | during the Essex timeframe we kept the stable/essex back ports going strong, also | 20:35 |
| annegentle | Okay, I can give you back 24 minutes if you want! | 20:36 |
| annegentle | Appreciate the input, all. | 20:36 |
| annegentle | #endmeeting | 20:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 10 20:37:31 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-09-10-20.01.html | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-09-10-20.01.txt | 20:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-09-10-20.01.log.html | 20:37 |
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| danwent | hi folks | 20:59 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | ji | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| mestery | o/ | 20:59 |
| gongysh | hi | 20:59 |
| danwent | that was quick :) | 21:00 |
| carlp-away | o/ | 21:00 |
| arosen | hiya | 21:00 |
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| zhuadl | HI | 21:00 |
| nati_ueno | hi | 21:00 |
| amotoki_ | hello | 21:00 |
| s0mik | o/ | 21:00 |
| danwent | carlp: you are doing a bad job of being "away" :) | 21:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 10 21:00:31 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:00 |
| garyk | hi | 21:00 |
| danwent | #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:00 |
| danwent | Basically, today is our target for RC1 release of Quantum | 21:00 |
| carlp | danwent: I fixed it :) | 21:00 |
| danwent | :) | 21:01 |
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| danwent | We want to identify all key issues for the RC, figure out who's going to close them out today, and then talk a bit about docs | 21:01 |
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| danwent | current status of RC1: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-rc1 | 21:01 |
| danwent | overall, just want to say the team has been going a great job filing + fixing bugs | 21:02 |
| danwent | we've made a lot of progress | 21:02 |
| danwent | we still have a fair number of issues are are incomplete though, considering our goal of doing an RC1 today | 21:02 |
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| danwent | so let's go through them and see where we stand | 21:02 |
| danwent | garyk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047751 | 21:02 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047751 in quantum "limit default set of fields shown in router and floating ip list commands" [Low,In progress] | 21:02 |
| danwent | this is very small code change. should be trivial to review + merge. Only question was around exact set of fields to show? | 21:03 |
| garyk | correct | 21:03 |
| danwent | ok, sounds like we're good there | 21:03 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047587 | 21:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047587 in quantum "L3 support of Metaplugin is broken" [Low,In progress] | 21:03 |
| danwent | this is L3 related, looks like garyk is +2 already. I will be second core unless someone else wants to be. | 21:04 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: Thanks! | 21:04 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048617 | 21:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048617 in quantum "external interface is not removed when router-gateway-clear" [Medium,In progress] | 21:04 |
| danwent | looks like akihiro is not here right now | 21:05 |
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| edgarmagana | hello world! | 21:05 |
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| amotoki_ | danwent: hi | 21:05 |
| danwent | but we have two cores on this patch. | 21:05 |
| danwent | ah, there you are | 21:05 |
| rkukura | hi - sorry I'm late | 21:05 |
| danwent | i'm going to bump up priority on high on this one | 21:05 |
| danwent | which means we won't release RC1 without it. | 21:05 |
| danwent | amotoki_: are you available in the next few hours to work with reviewers and get this merged? | 21:06 |
| amotoki_ | sure. | 21:06 |
| danwent | ok, great. | 21:06 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1019895 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1019895 in quantum "disable nova-manage network + related cmds if using Quantum v2" [Medium,In progress] | 21:06 |
| danwent | don't see salvatore around | 21:07 |
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| danwent | this is technically in nova, so it won't block our RC | 21:07 |
| danwent | I'm going to unassign it from our RC1 and bug salvatore to get it on the nova RC list if we are still targeting it. | 21:07 |
| gongysh | why is it opened on quantum project? | 21:07 |
| danwent | gongysh: its open on both | 21:08 |
| danwent | we're trying to figure out a good way to keep tasks that are important for quantum on our radar | 21:08 |
| gongysh | do we need change quantum for it? | 21:08 |
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| danwent | gongysh: no, which is why I was saying I'm going to remove it from RC1, as it won't block our release (since no code change is required) | 21:09 |
| gongysh | ok. I see. thanks | 21:09 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048108 | 21:10 |
| gongysh | I will not back to bed since we all have work to do. | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048108 in quantum "Restarting l3 agents has an exception" [High,In progress] | 21:10 |
| danwent | gongysh: hehe, no need to pull an all night, but every bit of help is very much appreciated :) | 21:10 |
| danwent | looks like garyk dropped off temporarily | 21:10 |
| gongysh | This is morning for me. | 21:10 |
| danwent | gongysh: ah, good point :) | 21:10 |
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| rkukura | danwent: just got text from garyk re IRC technical difficulties | 21:11 |
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| danwent | the l3-restart issue is tricky as it seems like its tied up with namespace deletion. we're still iterating on the patch, and its one of the ones that's concerning me for our release tonight. | 21:11 |
| garyk | danwent: sorry just had to reboot | 21:11 |
| danwent | rkukura: yup, thanks for the info | 21:11 |
| danwent | garyk: no worries. | 21:11 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048108 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048108 in quantum "Restarting l3 agents has an exception" [High,In progress] | 21:12 |
| danwent | just mentioned that one. | 21:12 |
| garyk | ok | 21:12 |
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| danwent | i'm wondering if we can just skip the actual deletion of the namespace while still clearing all interfaces and iptables rules | 21:12 |
| danwent | garyk: we can discuss further after the meeting | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | Hey… I'm late. Will you still allow me in? | 21:12 |
| garyk | ok | 21:12 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: only if you brought cookies :) | 21:13 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048088 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048088 in quantum "quantum floatingip-show <anything> show a result" [High,In progress] | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | plenty of vCookies for everybod | 21:13 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: we are all late today | 21:13 |
| danwent | this bug is actually cross listed in quantum-client | 21:13 |
| danwent | needs one more core review | 21:13 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12663/ | 21:13 |
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| danwent | hopefully someone will volunteer :) | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | I'll take a look | 21:14 |
| danwent | next one is kind of tricky: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047742 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047742 in quantum "admin unable to create VM and attach to tenant net" [High,In progress] | 21:14 |
| danwent | markmcclain: thx | 21:14 |
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| danwent | basically, if you are an admin user and try to spin up a VM that connects to another tenant's network, this will not work. | 21:15 |
| danwent | the implications are actually a bit tricky and we're still trying to sort it out. | 21:15 |
| danwent | intuitively it seems like an admin should be allowed to do this, but it doesn't map very well to our model. | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | There are two aspects: the policies and the default behavior of queries which always filter by tenant_id | 21:16 |
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| danwent | if you're interested in the discussion, please subscribe to the bug. we'll need to sort out whether we want to support this, and if so, the implications on the quantum policies | 21:17 |
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| danwent | I'm actually going to move it back to 'confirmed', as we need more discussion before we can do any coding on it. | 21:17 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047605 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047605 in quantum "DHCP agent needs to force a re-sync when rpc calls fail" [High,In progress] | 21:18 |
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| danwent | #help looks like we need two core devs to focus on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12734/ | 21:18 |
| danwent | most of the code seems to be in tests, which is a good sign, but its still a non-trvial patch | 21:19 |
| danwent | don't all jump at once :P | 21:19 |
| arosen | I can be one of the reviews for it. | 21:19 |
| danwent | arosen: thanks | 21:19 |
| garyk | i can | 21:20 |
| edgarmagana | danwent: I can volunteer for that as well | 21:20 |
| rkukura | I can look at it | 21:20 |
| danwent | :) | 21:20 |
| danwent | ok, how about someone other than garyk. he's already been working all hours of the day on this stuff :) | 21:20 |
| gongysh | me | 21:20 |
| garyk | :) | 21:20 |
| danwent | rkukura, edgarmagana you two can figure out who should | 21:20 |
| danwent | and don't worry folks, plenty of reviews to go around :P | 21:20 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048140 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048140 in quantum "floatingip-create with nonexisting port-id creates a garbage port" [High,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| edgarmagana | one extra review will not hurt, should be done by today? | 21:21 |
| danwent | edgarmagana: yes | 21:21 |
| danwent | we're still targeting an RC1 end of day today | 21:21 |
| danwent | a bug will have to be pretty serious to block it | 21:21 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: plan is that i'm going to steal that bug from you? | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | well… that would throw away the last 20 minutes of my work | 21:22 |
| danwent | looking at the code it seems like the bug exists and the fix should be easy. oddly, i'm not able to repro it though. | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | but that's not a big deal :) | 21:22 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: ah, then you fix it :) | 21:22 |
| danwent | sorry, forgot you said you had worked on it | 21:22 |
| danwent | go for it. | 21:22 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031473 | 21:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1031473 in quantum "Only admin should update device_id" [High,Confirmed] | 21:22 |
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| danwent | this issue is only high because it MAY be tied up with the issue of allowing admins to start VMs on other tenant's networks. | 21:23 |
| danwent | otherwise, I don't think its a blocker. | 21:23 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: do we have an estimate on the difficulty here if we do need to make this change? | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | device_id on update to admin only is a one-liner | 21:24 |
| danwent | there would be the nova side changes as well. | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | the nova side changes are not trivial | 21:24 |
| danwent | ah, | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | (depending on what you mean by nova-side changes) | 21:24 |
| gongysh | it seems related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047742 | 21:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047742 in quantum "admin unable to create VM and attach to tenant net" [High,Confirmed] | 21:24 |
| danwent | gongysh: yes, exactly. | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | that would be the non-trivial bit | 21:24 |
| gongysh | I have commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031473 | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1031473 in quantum "Only admin should update device_id" [High,Confirmed] | 21:25 |
| gongysh | how you guys want to work on it? | 21:25 |
| danwent | ok, let's continue the discussion on the bug. this is one of my "unknowns" for the RC that we need to lock down quickly, so fif you care about this issue, please monitor your LP email in th next few hours | 21:25 |
| danwent | I prefer discussions on LP, as they are open and archived there | 21:25 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | I have all the night for this :) - or at least until I run out of coffee | 21:25 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047015 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1047015 in quantum "NotificationDispatcher should not use declare_topic_consumer (private method)" [Undecided,New] | 21:26 |
| danwent | ok, let's start discussing it on the bug after the meeting. if needed, let's try to have folks signed into openstack-dev irc channel as well | 21:26 |
| danwent | will greatly help to quick turnaround | 21:26 |
| danwent | I believe our take away from this is that we're going to document that DHCP does not work with qpid | 21:27 |
| danwent | can someone working more closely on this confirm/deny? | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | zmq | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | qpid+rabbit should work | 21:27 |
| danwent | urgh, that's what I meant, yes, sorry :) | 21:27 |
| garyk | danwent: dhcp works with qpid and rabbit. just does not work with zmq | 21:28 |
| danwent | ok, so we should turn this into a docs issue, not a code issue, at least for Folsom? | 21:28 |
| danwent | or perhaps we keep this issue around for grizzly, and create a new docs issue for folsom | 21:28 |
| garyk | i agree | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | +1 for keeping and opening new doc issue | 21:29 |
| danwent | ok, i'll do that | 21:29 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1048081 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048081 in python-quantumclient "floatingip-create: fixed_ip_address and port_id not sent to server" [Medium,In progress] | 21:29 |
| gongysh | isn't it a openstack common issue? | 21:29 |
| gongysh | I mean NotificationDispatcher should not use declare_topic_consumer. | 21:30 |
| danwent | gongysh: I think that's one of the plans for fixing the issue moving forward | 21:30 |
| danwent | we could add openstack-common as a related project | 21:30 |
| danwent | on that bug | 21:30 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: can you comment on that status of this issue? | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | Yes. | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | Basically we've seen cases where floating ups where created without port_id and fixed_ip_address | 21:31 |
| danwent | you mean, when --port_id is passed in, but not sent to the server? | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | and where the server apparently accepted any ip address, which should not be the case. It seems that actually the client was not packing them in a args2body | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | Unless you pass it as an "extra" param (-- --port_id) | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | Seems to be the root cause of bug 1048140 too actually | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048140 in quantum "floatingip-create with nonexisting port-id creates a garbage port" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048140 | 21:32 |
| danwent | gongysh: can you take a look at this patch? | 21:33 |
| gongysh | yes. | 21:33 |
| danwent | i'm confused here, as I've been successfully using --port_id with no extra "--" for a while | 21:33 |
| danwent | and without salv's patch. so there's something strange going on here. | 21:33 |
| danwent | then again, i'm not able to repo https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048140, either | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048140 in quantum "floatingip-create with nonexisting port-id creates a garbage port" [High,Confirmed] | 21:34 |
| danwent | so perhaps they are related | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | perhaps it's about the dashed options? | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | --port-id vs --port_id? | 21:34 |
| danwent | i'm using underscore | 21:34 |
| gongysh | parameters after -- should use _ not -. | 21:35 |
| danwent | dean troyer added both, I think | 21:35 |
| gongysh | quantum client will send it as the key. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: I think we're talking about "before" the "--" | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, let's move the discussion to lp | 21:35 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:35 |
| danwent | agreed, let's move this to LP, but i'm going to bump the priority of this one, as we need to get the bottom of it. | 21:35 |
| danwent | It looks like we have some additional bugs to triage as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.status=NEW&field.importance=UNDECIDED | 21:37 |
| danwent | I won't go through each in the meeting, but if there's something that hasn't been discussed that is critical for the release, it NEEDs to be in a bug filed against RC1 | 21:37 |
| danwent | that reminds me | 21:37 |
| danwent | amotoki_: is there a bug for the OVS port status thing you're seeing with NEC plugin? | 21:37 |
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| danwent | SumitNaiksatam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1046758 | 21:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1046758 in quantum "quantum.plugins.cisco.nova.vifagent.py is broken due to Nova libvirt driver refactoring" [Undecided,New] | 21:38 |
| danwent | does this need to be RC1? If so, is it in progress? | 21:38 |
| amotoki_ | danwent: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1048681 | 21:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048681 in quantum "quantum agent using a namespace does not work with nec plugin" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi dan | 21:38 |
| danwent | we were supposed to merge nova vif drivers into nova in Folsom… but I guess it will have to be grizzly now. Can you file something for that? | 21:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, we wont fix it now | 21:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | will move it to grizzly | 21:39 |
| danwent | SumitNaiksatam: ok, can you move bug to 'confirmed' | 21:39 |
| garyk | dansmith: SumitNaiksatam : i think that https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1046766 will aslo need to be grizzled | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1046766 in quantum "Need to provide a formal API for Nova to use to plug/unplug VIFs" [Undecided,New] | 21:39 |
| danwent | garyk: yes, that bug requires a longer response, so I haven't officially triaged it yet | 21:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: yes | 21:40 |
| danwent | SumitNaiksatam: thx | 21:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyk: yeah, thats almost a bp | 21:40 |
| garyk | agreed | 21:40 |
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| danwent | amotoki_: ok, i've targeted it at RC1, but to make sure we get this done in Folsom, we should have a fix in place by today. I'm going to ask our OVS devs whether there's an easier fix, otherwise we can go with the veth approach. | 21:41 |
| amotoki_ | danwent: thanks. | 21:42 |
| danwent | ok, so that's the round-up of RC1 bugs | 21:42 |
| gongysh | a long list. | 21:42 |
| danwent | indeed. many are in review and the diffs are small. I'd still like to shoot for an RC1 before the tuesday meeting tomorrow. | 21:43 |
| gongysh | of juicy and yummy bugs. | 21:43 |
| rkukura | were enable_tunneling and/or the devstack part of rootwrap discussed? | 21:43 |
| danwent | so lets do one final push, and I think we'll be close | 21:43 |
| danwent | rkukura: good point. its on the list of key reviews on the agenda, but I didn't see a bug for it on the RC1 list | 21:43 |
| danwent | quantum reivew: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12686/ | 21:44 |
| rkukura | I was hoping you'd target it - I don't have rights to do that it seems | 21:44 |
| danwent | devstack review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12687/ | 21:44 |
| danwent | ok, targeted | 21:45 |
| rkukura | they are ready, need reviews | 21:45 |
| danwent | any volunteers? | 21:45 |
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| gongysh | I will have time for it. | 21:45 |
| danwent | ok, great. and maybe arosen, since you're familiar with OVS plugin? | 21:45 |
| rkukura | also the devstack part of rootwrap is close, and would be good to get in so the new rootwrap actually gets tested | 21:46 |
| arosen | sure | 21:46 |
| rkukura | jrd ran into a gerrit issue and will resubmit tonight | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: when you push the rootwrap add me as a reviewer and I'll take a look | 21:46 |
| rkukura | thanks | 21:46 |
| danwent | rkukura: great. btw, devstack stuff is not subject to RC timelines, since it is never "released", so we're ok there | 21:46 |
| rkukura | danwent, agreed, but the rootwrap filters could easily have issues | 21:47 |
| danwent | rkukura: yes, sooner is definitely better than later, just letting him know that there's no "in or out" date | 21:47 |
| rkukura | right | 21:47 |
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| danwent | Ok. So let's do one last push of reviews, try to all be available on IRC during work hours, and see if we can push our the RC1 by main openstack meeting tomorrow. | 21:48 |
| danwent | any other big bug/review concerns to highlight before we quickly talk docs? | 21:48 |
| danwent | #topic quantum documentation | 21:49 |
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| amotoki_ | Many of "Modified code Pyflakes warning." on gerrit are approved but they needs to be merged. | 21:49 |
| garyk | what time is that meeting? | 21:49 |
| danwent | garyk: 21 UTC | 21:49 |
| garyk | oy vey | 21:49 |
| amotoki_ | s/merged/rebased/ | 21:49 |
| danwent | 23 hours :) | 21:49 |
| garyk | ok | 21:50 |
| danwent | we'll have to be cutthroat about focusing on the most critical bugs, and letting other things go. | 21:50 |
| salv-orlando | garyk: midnight your time I think | 21:50 |
| garyk | pyflakes is a problem. they are all dependant on one another and the submitter is mia | 21:50 |
| danwent | garyk: please just ignore the pyflakes stuff for now | 21:50 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: ok. so we have another 23 hours | 21:50 |
| danwent | i'd clear them out if I could | 21:50 |
| garyk | ok. anyone have jack bauers no? | 21:51 |
| danwent | we need to be super focused on the critical issues, and extra imports aren't critical :) | 21:51 |
| salv-orlando | Yep, the pyflakes stuff is clogged because they were each dependent on another | 21:51 |
| danwent | garyk: haha | 21:51 |
| salv-orlando | contacted the author, but no response. | 21:51 |
| danwent | yup, let's move on. can't let them distract us from RC1 | 21:52 |
| danwent | any more than they already have :) | 21:52 |
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| danwent | so on docs. One reason I want to pull RC1 soon is that we really need to shift attention to docs. We've made a lot of progress in the past few days on docs, but we need to whole team pitching in. | 21:52 |
| danwent | Salvatore, did you get an answer on a publicly available version of the quantum v2 api doc? | 21:52 |
| danwent | without having to build from XML? | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | Nope. Last response is from Anne saying that's something's broken on the website | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | and she was going to pull some infra guys | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | in the mean while I setup a vm with a doc build system | 21:53 |
| gongysh | what is infra guys? | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | so I'm doing the finishing touches on the API | 21:54 |
| gongysh | ok, I see. | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | infrastructure - the ones that runs web sites, and services such as gerrit, jenkins etc. | 21:54 |
| danwent | ok, how is best to send out a version for review? | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | pdf to core mailing list? | 21:54 |
| danwent | perhaps just send to ml? | 21:54 |
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| salv-orlando | or if you give me a web space I'll just upload the whole thing | 21:54 |
| danwent | yeah, probably the best idea at this point. and clear your calendar for feedback :) | 21:55 |
| danwent | maybe attach it to a quantum wiki page and send out the link | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | nati-ueno is already helping with the API doc | 21:55 |
| danwent | that way you can remove it when it is no longer current. | 21:55 |
| danwent | instead of having stale content floating around | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: agree | 21:55 |
| danwent | ok, 5 mins left | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: are you getting started on the CLI doc? | 21:55 |
| danwent | garyk's eyes are starting to close :P | 21:55 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: are you talking about a part of the admin guide? | 21:56 |
| garyk | nearly | 21:56 |
| gongysh | I don't know how to start, where should I put it? | 21:56 |
| gongysh | or part of admin guide? | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | ops… so probably I never sent you that email on wednsesday | 21:56 |
| danwent | ok, so the admin guide in general is being drafted as a google doc until the end of this week | 21:56 |
| danwent | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdovP4u8gLq3h3L2OYWhw9z5xGXFuJ3wO2NobHWof_M/edit# | 21:56 |
| danwent | I think all core devs have seen this link already | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | tAnne has added a place where cli docs are going to be added | 21:57 |
| danwent | anyone with the link can edit, so please be careful | 21:57 |
| gongysh | yes. I saw the admin guide | 21:57 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: did anne say we're using a separate doc as CLI reference? | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | look here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11274/ | 21:57 |
| danwent | I was thinking it would be an appendix to the admin guide, but i'm fine with it not being if that's more inline with other openstack projects. | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | in openstack-manuals there's a quantum_cli_commands.xml skeleton | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | I think the maven build will create a nice document out of it | 21:58 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. | 21:58 |
| gongysh | ok, I see it in that review. | 21:59 |
| gongysh | I will start it soon after all these reviews today. | 21:59 |
| danwent | I'd like to encourage people to start looking through the current google doc for the admin guide, identifing gaps, and flushing out sections. | 21:59 |
| danwent | remember that our RC1 will not be that useful if people can't install and use it. | 21:59 |
| danwent | I'm going to take another pass through it to try and identify gaps and bug people who I think are able to fill in those gaps. | 22:00 |
| gongysh | Yes. our concepts and models are complex now. | 22:00 |
| danwent | Ok, and on that final topic, just wanted to touch on distro packaging for Folsom | 22:00 |
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| danwent | rkukura: how are thinkgs looking for fedora? | 22:00 |
| rkukura | we'll have current snapshot packaged tonight or tomorrow | 22:01 |
| rkukura | and then will refine setup scripts, etc | 22:01 |
| danwent | sweet. | 22:01 |
| gongysh | GRE isn't working on fedora, right? | 22:01 |
| garyk | there is a fedora test day on the 18th | 22:01 |
| rkukura | right | 22:01 |
| danwent | I know the ubuntu folks are now jumping on the quantum packaging stuff. still flushing out the details, but its been improving a lot since last meeting when I mentioned it needed a lot of help. | 22:02 |
| danwent | garyk: awesome | 22:02 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 22:02 | |
| danwent | so we're over time, any other items people need to comment on? | 22:02 |
| danwent | anyone want to comment on the tempest work that is going on? | 22:02 |
| gongysh | I am going to have a presentation for china Openstackers, | 22:02 |
| danwent | that stuff is really important, so its great that there are people focusing on it.. | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | We have meeting in tomorrow at #quantum-tempest | 22:03 |
| danwent | gongysh: cool, where? | 22:03 |
| gongysh | do u guys have any ideas or document for me? | 22:03 |
| gongysh | In beijing. | 22:03 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: want to send out a email to the main ML? | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Sure | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | time is http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=9&day=11&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=33 | 22:03 |
| danwent | gongysh: my slides are always up on slideshare, as are salvatore's. i'll send you a link. you're always free to steal any of my slideware for talks. | 22:04 |
| danwent | http://slideshare.com/danwent | 22:04 |
| danwent | salvatore has some great slides as well from talks he's given | 22:04 |
| danwent | ok, anything else before we close the meeting? | 22:04 |
| gongysh | thanks | 22:04 |
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| nati_ueno | tons of 5 energies for you guys :) | 22:05 |
| danwent | thanks for all the effort on RC1. We're almost there. One more day of reviews. Please try to be on IRC if you're reviewing, or have a patch under review for quick coordination | 22:05 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks! | 22:05 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:05 |
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| salv-orlando | bye | 22:05 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 10 22:05:31 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-09-10-21.00.html | 22:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-09-10-21.00.txt | 22:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-09-10-21.00.log.html | 22:05 |
| salv-orlando | drink plenty of cofee | 22:05 |
| garyk | danwent: you have a few secs to go over the ns issues? i pushed a patch followi ng your comments | 22:05 |
| amotoki_ | Thnx everyone. | 22:05 |
| danwent | let's particularly try to coordinate on the issues around admins starting VMs and the device_id/device_owner stuff. | 22:05 |
| danwent | garyk: sure | 22:06 |
| danwent | you're talking about the delete issue? | 22:06 |
| salv-orlando | I will look at the admin stuff once this create-floatingip issue is sorted, should not take long | 22:06 |
| garyk | yes. | 22:06 |
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| garyk | i am also updating the cli list commands. any fields that you think should be added insetad of the tenant id | 22:06 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: ok, thanks. | 22:07 |
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| nati_ueno | #aga,, I send mail without Subject... | 22:08 |
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| danwent | garyk: on floating ip i wondering if there was a clean way to show what internal network it was on if the IPs overlap… but that's not a huge deal. | 22:08 |
| danwent | I don't think there's an easy way to do that. | 22:08 |
| danwent | we could show the port, but i'm not convinced that its that helpful. | 22:09 |
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| garyk | ok. i'll add the port | 22:09 |
| danwent | i guess showing the port woudl let someone more easiliy do a port-show, which would show the network | 22:09 |
| danwent | so I guess that helps. | 22:09 |
| garyk | ok. thanks. i'll push a patch soon | 22:11 |
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| gongysh | garyk, do u want to remove the tenant_id in the list command? | 22:18 |
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| danwent | gongysh: i think he was already doing that for floatingip and router | 22:18 |
| danwent | may make sense to also do it for network | 22:18 |
| garyk | gongysh: i removed it from the floating and router. | 22:18 |
| garyk | i can remove it from the network if you guys want | 22:19 |
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| danwent | i'd prefer that, but wanted to see what gongysh thought | 22:19 |
| danwent | it seems like for non-admin users, tenant_id will always be their own tenant_id, so in general its not super useful. | 22:19 |
| garyk | ok, i have done it. | 22:20 |
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| garyk | done. i am going to slee. good night and good day | 22:21 |
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| salv-orlando | good night! | 22:24 |
| salv-orlando | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-quantumclient/+bug/1048081 | 22:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048081 in python-quantumclient "floatingip-create: fixed_ip_address and port_id not sent to server" [Low,In progress] | 22:30 |
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| salv-orlando | have a look at the latest comment - I am pretty sure bug 1048140 is a duplicate of this | 22:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048140 in quantum "floatingip-create with nonexisting port-id creates a garbage port (dup-of: 1048081)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048140 | 22:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1048081 in python-quantumclient "floatingip-create: fixed_ip_address and port_id not sent to server" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048081 | 22:31 |
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| danwent | nati_ueno: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12621/ | 23:59 |
| danwent | unit tests seem unhappy | 23:59 |
| nati_ueno | I got it! I'll fix it asap | 23:59 |
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