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| danwent | hi folks | 20:56 |
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| enikanorov | hi | 20:56 |
| rkukura | hi | 20:57 |
| sharis | hi | 20:57 |
| zyluo | hi | 20:57 |
| salv-orlando | hei | 20:58 |
| markmcclain | hu | 20:58 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 20:58 |
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| danwent | for those interested in pre-viewing things: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 20:58 |
| danwent | we have a lot to cover :0 | 20:58 |
| danwent | so we'll have to keep moving | 20:58 |
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| gongysh | hi | 20:59 |
| arosen | Hi | 20:59 |
| nati_ueno | hi | 20:59 |
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| garyk | hi | 20:59 |
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| danwent | ok, lot's to do, so let's get the party started | 21:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 3 21:00:29 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:00 | |
| emagana | hello all! | 21:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:00 |
| danwent | #info agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:00 |
| mestery | o/ | 21:01 |
| danwent | garyk, can you confirm that stable/folsom was released on 11/29 as planned? | 21:01 |
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| garyk | danwent: yes, it has been released. | 21:01 |
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| danwent | #info stable/folsom was dropped on schedule on 11/29 | 21:01 |
| danwent | many, many thanks to garyk for his incredible dedication to stable/folsom :) | 21:04 |
| emagana | garyk: congratulations! and also to the entire team! | 21:04 |
| garyk | danwent: :). started working on the next one... | 21:04 |
| danwent | moving forward in grizzly, we will need to decide what we still deam worth backporting to folsom. likely the bar should rise to cover just "high" or "critical" bugs. | 21:04 |
| danwent | as we move further with grizzly and merge more features, backports will get harder. | 21:04 |
| danwent | ok, as promised, I want to use the meetings to do a better job of highlighting work that needs to be done on quantum docs | 21:04 |
| danwent | #topic quantum docs | 21:04 |
| danwent | gongysh wins the award as our doc champioin this week. | 21:04 |
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| gongysh | how much? | 21:04 |
| danwent | he's beeing doing a lot of really valuable work there | 21:04 |
| danwent | gongysh: very large amounts of .... | 21:04 |
| danwent | gratitude :P | 21:04 |
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| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=quantum | 21:04 |
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| danwent | now we really need review cycles to help get these doc changes merged | 21:04 |
| danwent | even if you're not a core dev for openstack-manuals, the docs team looks for core team members to +1 changes on their projects | 21:04 |
| danwent | so a +1 with a comment that you are a quantum core helps a lot | 21:04 |
| danwent | (or just that you're knowledgeable about quantum, even if you're not a core :P) | 21:05 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1064643 | 21:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1064643 in openstack-manuals "add example of basic "flat" scenario for quantum" [Critical,In progress] | 21:05 |
| danwent | this is the review for yong's example of using flat networks and single networks use case | 21:05 |
| danwent | err… that's the bug, this is the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17184/ | 21:05 |
| danwent | there's also another really important docs review, improving our metadata-related docs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16669/ | 21:05 |
| danwent | this has been a major stumbling point for users | 21:06 |
| danwent | one very KEY point, is that if a doc change also applies to folsom (as both fo the above do, we need to make sure the person submits it to the stable/folsom branch after its merged into master) | 21:06 |
| danwent | otherwise, current folsom users will not benefit. | 21:06 |
| danwent | there are also two open doc bugs of high priority that someone could grab: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1078588 | 21:07 |
| danwent | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1082990 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1078588 in openstack-manuals "provide details for tenant routers use case" [High,Confirmed] | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082990 in openstack-manuals "quantum docs should point out that security groups must be open to reach vms" [High,Confirmed] | 21:07 |
| danwent | we also have two key reviews on the api docs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=netconn-api | 21:07 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13759/ | 21:07 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15719/ | 21:07 |
| danwent | I'm going to spend the majority of my review cycles this week on docs reviews | 21:08 |
| danwent | it would be great if anyone else wanted to do something similar, to help make sure these changes get in soon. | 21:08 |
| garyk | danwent: i'll try and chime in a bit | 21:09 |
| gongysh | I think I am already there. | 21:09 |
| danwent | also, as some new features are arriving in G-2, we should try to make sure code changes aren't merged in until there is at least a doc bug filed, with a pointer to the spec. | 21:09 |
| danwent | gongysh: :) | 21:09 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on docs? | 21:09 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: do you think plugin-specific doc should be in main admin guide? | 21:10 |
| danwent | gongysh: thanks again for all your work there! | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | like how to configure a specific plugin in quantum? | 21:10 |
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| salv-orlando | (or documentation about plugin-specific extensions) | 21:10 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: i've gone back and forth on this. My current thinking is that everyone needs to pick a plugin to make quantum useful at all, so it makes sense to have it integrated into the main admin guide. | 21:10 |
| danwent | for the API guide, so far we haven't required API docs for extensions that are only implemented by some extensions... | 21:11 |
| danwent | we've left it up to the extension author. | 21:11 |
| emagana | salv-orlando: I think we could add an apendix section for plugins config | 21:11 |
| danwent | (of course, having API docs is a good way to make sure your extension is usable and adopted by other plugins) | 21:11 |
| danwent | emagana: well, you definitely need plugin specific stuff in install.... | 21:12 |
| danwent | emagana: well, you definitely need plugin specific stuff in install…. | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: agreed. Multiple sources for documentation is painful. | 21:12 |
| danwent | currently, there are sub-sections of various sections, including install that cover per-plugin config. | 21:12 |
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| emagana | danwent: of course! | 21:13 |
| danwent | emagana: ah, were you talking about API guide? | 21:13 |
| danwent | ok, then nevermind my comment. i was focused on admin guide. | 21:14 |
| emagana | danwent: actually, both! | 21:14 |
| danwent | ok, moving on :) | 21:14 |
| danwent | #topic reviews + review days | 21:14 |
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| danwent | so its with some hesitation that I send out this link, but: http://173.203.107.207/~soren/stats/quantum-30days.json | 21:14 |
| danwent | this is a script from soren used to calculate reviews across all projects. | 21:15 |
| danwent | i'm hesitant because I don't want people to soley focus on the review count, since some reviews take a lot of effort, and some are trivia | 21:15 |
| danwent | trivial | 21:15 |
| danwent | but look at the numbers does seem to confirm what i would have guessed, that some cores are doing a lot more reviews than others :) | 21:16 |
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| danwent | in some cases, its hard to imagine that everyone is actualy doing a review day, as they should if they are a core dev. | 21:16 |
| rkukura | Looks like I'm the worst offender - point taken | 21:17 |
| danwent | so at this point this is just a note that you should look at your number there, and either feel comfortable that you are doing enough, or take it as a sign that you need to be more vigilent about really doing your several hours of reviews per week, ideally as part of a dedicated review day/half-day | 21:17 |
| danwent | on that note… http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/ReviewDays | 21:17 |
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| danwent | i had thought we were going to be rolling over people's days, but it looks like the slate was wiped clean (I noticed that today, and had to re-sign up) | 21:18 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: can you comment on whether people's review days are being rolled over by default? | 21:18 |
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| salv-orlando | hard to roll over. Some people don't always pick the same days :) | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | If I had some preferences, I'd enter names automagically | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | I know garyk favourite day is sunday for instance | 21:19 |
| danwent | Ok… what about something like people can put a * by their entry, in which case it should be rolled-over? | 21:19 |
| gongysh | I have: Tuesday and Thursday. | 21:19 |
| danwent | and if they want to pick a one-time day, don't put a * by your name? | 21:19 |
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| mnewby | I intend to start in again, but I can't commit to a whole day yet. Need to work myself up. | 21:19 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: :) | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: that would sound good to me. For instance I always pick a friday. The "*" will also help me script the stuff | 21:20 |
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| salv-orlando | mnewby: doesn't have to be a whole day in the literal sense. Just a day when devs knows you're doing reviews and are available for discussion on IRC | 21:20 |
| danwent | #info when signing up for a review day, include a * by your name if you want that entry automatically rolled over to the next week. | 21:20 |
| mestery | danwent: Is that webpage only for core devs? | 21:21 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yes, agreed. more just a day where you have a few hour to make sure any major new reviews are getting attention | 21:21 |
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| mnewby | salv-orlando: fair enough. so long as everybody doesn't mind me leaning on them - I've felt pretty lost in the past and ended up doing purely mechanical reviews, and I think that is of limited utility. | 21:21 |
| danwent | mestery: up to salv-orlando . to some degree, we want to make sure there is core dev coverage, since that is what can actually get stuff merged. | 21:22 |
| mestery | danwent: Makes sense. I'll continue reviewing outside the scope of the webpage for now. | 21:22 |
| danwent | but it would also be good to just encourage general review responsiveness, and being a core isn't required for that | 21:22 |
| mestery | danwent: Got it | 21:22 |
| danwent | ok, any other comments on reviews + review days? | 21:23 |
| danwent | #topic grizzly-2 | 21:23 |
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| danwent | grizzly-2 is scheduled for Jan 10th: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: feel free to sign up | 21:23 |
| danwent | that includes one "off" week during the holiday/new year season | 21:23 |
| danwent | its still early in G-2, so what I want to do in this meeting are | 21:24 |
| danwent | identify blockers for any reviews that have been through many revisions. | 21:24 |
| danwent | identify newer reviews that are missing two core dev reviewers | 21:24 |
| danwent | make sure we have specs for any high-priority items by end of this week for review. | 21:24 |
| danwent | so, with that, let's take a deep breath and dive in :) | 21:24 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-gate | 21:24 |
| mnewby | danwent: I don't see the xs/xcp blueprint in the list. Can it be included? I have a strategy in mind to get it reviewed. | 21:24 |
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| danwent | mnewby: its targeted for g-2 (https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2), its just not priority high or above, and those are the items we automatically track in meetings | 21:25 |
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| danwent | we can discuss that BP as well though, at the end of the G-2 section | 21:26 |
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| mnewby | danwent: sounds good | 21:26 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: gate status? | 21:26 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16506/ | 21:26 |
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| danwent | garyk and i are reviewing that | 21:26 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: It looks start failing again. So I'm trying to fix it now. But glance-api didn't start yet. | 21:27 |
| garyk | danwent: nati_ueno my setup is finally up and running so tomorrow i'll have free cycles for it | 21:27 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I'll try to fix it ASAP | 21:27 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: ok… ping us when its ready for another review. devstack is kind of a mess lately with all of the project changes :-/ | 21:27 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: Ah really? OK I'll push rebased version, so could you try new one? | 21:27 |
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| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-db-upgrades | 21:28 |
| danwent | markmcclain: | 21:28 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Thanks | 21:28 |
| garyk | nati_ueno: first thing tomorrow (my time) | 21:28 |
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| danwent | https://docs.google.com/a/nicira.com/document/d/1YzKDf9IzfsmlhPvtNLv9d-luap25YlihBTqtcnEjrQo/edit | 21:28 |
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| danwent | #info spec for db upgrade migration https://docs.google.com/a/nicira.com/document/d/1YzKDf9IzfsmlhPvtNLv9d-luap25YlihBTqtcnEjrQo/edit | 21:28 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: Thanks | 21:28 |
| danwent | markmcclain: i think you said you expect to post a review soon? | 21:28 |
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| markmcclain | was hoping for today, but should be pushed tomorrow | 21:28 |
| danwent | ok, can we quickly ID two core devs for this? | 21:29 |
| garyk | nati_ueno: glance - check out https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/163369 | 21:29 |
| danwent | this is an essential BP, so i'd like to get it reviewed ASAP | 21:29 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: Thanks | 21:29 |
| gongysh | I want. | 21:29 |
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| garyk | nati_ueno: look at #6 | 21:29 |
| danwent | ok, i will step in as second core if no one else wants to | 21:30 |
| danwent | markmcclain: please ping us when its available | 21:30 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: oh, clean up rabbitmq fixes the problem! Thanks | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | will do | 21:30 |
| danwent | gongysh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/rpc-for-l3-agent | 21:30 |
| danwent | this was one of the items we were targeted to already be merged | 21:31 |
| garyk | danwent: it is looking good. just needs on extra core dev | 21:31 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15619/ | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | I'm close to a +2 | 21:31 |
| danwent | markmcclain: ok, great. | 21:31 |
| danwent | markmcclain: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/metadata-overlapping-networks | 21:32 |
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| danwent | main quantum, nova + devstack reviews are in | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: I was the 2nd core, and it's a +2 for me, but I moved it to +1 to let markmcclain review too | 21:32 |
| danwent | markmcclain: are we keeping this BP for one additional quantum commit | 21:32 |
| danwent | ? | 21:32 |
| danwent | or using a separate BP for that? | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | isolated nets | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | we can file a separate one if that's easier | 21:32 |
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| danwent | yeah, let's do that | 21:33 |
| danwent | so mark this one as implemented | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | done | 21:33 |
| danwent | markmcclain: thx | 21:33 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-security-groups-iptables | 21:33 |
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| danwent | we're close on this one too, i believe? | 21:33 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16210/ | 21:33 |
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| nati_ueno | Yes. But we need to agree the spec | 21:33 |
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| nati_ueno | source_ip_prefix for egress | 21:34 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: ah, was there another email to the ML? | 21:34 |
| danwent | i'm a bit behind there | 21:34 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Yes | 21:34 |
| gongysh | nati_ueno: does it have the ability to do anti-spoofing? | 21:34 |
| nati_ueno | gongysh: Yes I added the implementation | 21:34 |
| danwent | #todo danwent amotoki_ arosen respond to ML email about security groups spec | 21:34 |
| gongysh | thanks. | 21:35 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: and do we still have at least two active core devs on it? | 21:35 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Aaron and Gary and Akihiro is working on the patch. Thanks | 21:35 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: great | 21:35 |
| garyk | danwent: it is only my list | 21:35 |
| arosen | ditto | 21:35 |
| amotoki_ | ditto | 21:35 |
| danwent | garyk: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/vif-plugging-improvements | 21:35 |
| danwent | garyk: i saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16439/, are there other reviews I should be linking to? | 21:36 |
| garyk | danwent: not yet. tomorrow i'll start on the nova side of things. | 21:36 |
| danwent | garyk: looks like we need two more core devs. since we talked a bit about this, i'll be one. but we need another volunteer | 21:36 |
| garyk | great | 21:36 |
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| danwent | any one interested? | 21:37 |
| rkukura | I'll look at this. | 21:37 |
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| danwent | rkukura: thanks | 21:37 |
| danwent | enikanorov: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-restapi-tenant | 21:37 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15954/ | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | discussion continues on health monitor | 21:37 |
| danwent | ah, that explains it :) | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | i think some core dev shoult step in and say his weighty word | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | salv-orlando may be? | 21:38 |
| danwent | is there a specific thread on the ML? salv-orlando have you been commenting on this? | 21:38 |
| danwent | hehe, my thought as well. poor salv-orlando :P | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | poor me indeed. | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | The work is actually very good. | 21:38 |
| enikanorov | i think he has been commenting on this in review | 21:38 |
| danwent | ah, i think enikanorov was talking specifically about the health monitor issues on the ML | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | I am not sure about the use of operational status, but at the end of day as long as it is documented is fine. | 21:39 |
| enikanorov | afaik, it's the blocker right now | 21:39 |
| danwent | can we get some API guru love on that? | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | I'm also sorting the other stuff with Oleg. | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | Actually probably most of you are not aware of this discussion because it was on a gerrit patch | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | and not the main ML. | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | I think Oleg today moved the discussion to the mailing list. | 21:39 |
| danwent | ah | 21:39 |
| danwent | not that is it so much easier to noticed something on the ML these days :P | 21:40 |
| danwent | but yes, the right move. | 21:40 |
| danwent | Ok, salv-orlando, as API team lead, please do what you can to break the log-jam :) | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | For some weird reason, I'm starting to find easier to discuss on gerrit. | 21:40 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: more focused on concrete code? | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | yep | 21:40 |
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| danwent | sachin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-plugin-api-crud | 21:41 |
| danwent | i thought i saw him online earlier in the mtg... | 21:41 |
| danwent | i forget his handle though. | 21:41 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/16919 | 21:41 |
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| danwent | ah, it looks like we need core dev attention on this patch. | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | I'll reivew since it's lots of db changes | 21:42 |
| danwent | markmcclain: awesome, thanks. its a beast :P | 21:43 |
| danwent | i'm planning on tackling it mid-week as well. | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | yeah I can be the 2nd core if no other core is on it. | 21:43 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: by all means | 21:43 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-service-type | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: but if you want ti review that it would be a pleasure for me to step down | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | it was pointed out that the spec link points to a fairly generic page on service insertion | 21:44 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: if i don't get to it by end of day wed, you can take a crack at it | 21:44 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: yes, i think the proposed work is pretty simple, and we should have a spec that reflects that | 21:44 |
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| salv-orlando | which is totally correct, as this work is pretty much focused on API extension and DB support | 21:45 |
| danwent | as I said, i'd like to see specs for anything high or above by end of week, so there is time for discussion, impl, and review | 21:45 |
| salv-orlando | I have unfortunately lost last week due to other commitments, and I'm now back to work on this | 21:45 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: ok, do you think having a spec by end of week is reasonable? | 21:45 |
| danwent | ok, got to keep moving.... | 21:46 |
| emagana | salv-orlando: let me know how i can help | 21:46 |
| danwent | last one on the list (then mnewby) | 21:46 |
| danwent | gongysh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-multihost | 21:46 |
| danwent | I assume this is still tied up in the raging ML thread? | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | dawent: I am writing the spec as we talk | 21:47 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: no wonder you're taking so long to respond :P | 21:47 |
| gongysh | danwent: I think most of us don't like it | 21:47 |
| danwent | gongysh: don't like what specifically? | 21:47 |
| gongysh | danwent: multi-host | 21:47 |
| danwent | multi-host model? | 21:47 |
| gongysh | yes | 21:47 |
| danwent | yeah, i don't like it either to be frank | 21:47 |
| gongysh | do we still need it? | 21:48 |
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| salv-orlando | We need the use case for nova parity | 21:48 |
| gongysh | how about canceling it? | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | Not sure we need all the rest around it | 21:48 |
| emagana | danwent: what is the alternative for HA? active/standby model? | 21:48 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: well, we at least need something that people feel provides similar HA + perf properties | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | (see host management, and 'scheduling') | 21:49 |
| mnewby | danwent: isn't HA an implemention issue? All services have this same problem, and solutions are available outside of the openstack ecosystem. | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | I've not following the discussion very closely but gongysh's point is that scheduling and host management are necessary for doing the nova use case | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | at least this is what I gathered | 21:50 |
| emagana | This is not just an HA solution, i think this is also a Performance issue | 21:50 |
| danwent | mnewby: multi-host, for all its failures, has a very compelling HA model that isn't currently possible with Quantum | 21:50 |
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| emagana | Having Network Node driving all DHCP request is not a good design | 21:50 |
| danwent | i.e., L3 + DHCP services are only lost if the hypervisor running the associated VMs are lost (in which case you probably don't care too much) | 21:50 |
| mnewby | Please, let me know which cloud providers choose multi-host as their implementation stragegy. | 21:51 |
| mnewby | I'll be sure to short their stock. :p | 21:51 |
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| danwent | mnewby: unfortunately, i've been told by many openstack implemetors that they do | 21:51 |
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| danwent | mnewby: so even though my person feelings match yours | 21:51 |
| haleyb | mnewby: HP cloud does, for both performance and HA | 21:51 |
| danwent | mnewby: i think the quantum community needs to be very clear about how you achieve something similar, or why we think it does not deserve to be implemented. | 21:52 |
| gongysh | Yes. HP guys told me at design summit. | 21:52 |
| mnewby | that's just sad | 21:52 |
| haleyb | yes, i'm one of them :) | 21:52 |
| danwent | its much more than HP though | 21:52 |
| mnewby | but i digress | 21:52 |
| danwent | ok, we're going to run out of time. I will follow-up on ML about this. | 21:53 |
| zykes- | what's bad with multihost ? | 21:53 |
| danwent | #todo danwent lead team discussion on multi-host | 21:53 |
| danwent | zykes-: not enough time to explain in this meeting…. | 21:53 |
| danwent | ok, mnewby | 21:53 |
| zykes- | ok. | 21:53 |
| danwent | mnewby: you wanted to talk about xenserver/ovs stuff? | 21:54 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/xenapi-ovs | 21:54 |
| mnewby | danwent: The reviews haven't seen any love, and that's understandable. | 21:54 |
| mnewby | danwent: Hard to replicate a test environment. | 21:54 |
| danwent | true | 21:54 |
| mnewby | danwent: So I have an idea… First, I'm going to get the tempest tests done (truly). | 21:55 |
| mnewby | danwent: Then I'll need 2 reviewers. | 21:55 |
| mnewby | danwent: One will verify that kvm behaviour is unmodified by the xs/xcp supporting changes. | 21:55 |
| danwent | mnewby: if you get the tempest stuff done, i'll do whatever you need as a reviewer in quantum :) | 21:55 |
| garyk | mnewby: i'll volunteer - any chance of giving me remote access to be able to test? | 21:55 |
| mnewby | danwent: The other I will assist in getting an xs/xcp devstack environment for them to run the tests against. | 21:55 |
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| danwent | mnewby: ok, i can definitely help | 21:56 |
| mnewby | garyk: No remote access, I'm afraid, but it will be possible to bring up xcp under a vm. | 21:56 |
| gongysh | tell me how to set up an Xen env, I will chime in. | 21:56 |
| garyk | mnewby: ok. i'll just bug you for the details | 21:56 |
| danwent | ok, sorry, got to keep moving. but looks like danwent, garyk, and gongysh are available to help | 21:56 |
| mnewby | good stuff | 21:56 |
| danwent | #topic open work items | 21:56 |
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| danwent | often i'm asked for open blueprints or tasks, so I just wanted to highlight a few here before we wrap up | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | so… what about multi-host? | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | :) sorry that was troll me | 21:57 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: i'm going to follow-up on ML | 21:57 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-v2-euca-compat | 21:57 |
| danwent | this is a very useful task that it would be useful for someone to own. | 21:57 |
| danwent | though it may depend on work from arosen or someone else on a security group proxy. arosen, is there a BP tracking that? | 21:58 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/db-profiling-at-scale | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: I know, I just could not resist trolling a bit. Sorry about that. | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: we first want to define what euca compatibility means | 21:58 |
| danwent | this is another very valuable item. markmcclain is going to be working on this later, but i'm sure other people could jump in and work on it as well. | 21:58 |
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| salv-orlando | danwent: as it is related to API too, it probably makes sense mark and I work together on this. emagana also had done some work, so his contribution would be valuable too | 21:59 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: basically, run nova + quantum, and audit what portions of euca-networking commands may have issues, and fix them. | 21:59 |
| gongysh | Do we have a BP for API v2.1? | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: ok - so it's not about having a EC2 endpoint on Quantum? | 21:59 |
| danwent | there is also mnewby's tempest review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12485/), which would use additional review + testing. | 22:00 |
| gongysh | I am wondering the pagination BP which is postponed to G2. | 22:00 |
| danwent | and then people can expand on it to add new tests. | 22:00 |
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| gongysh | I think horizon is wanting it. | 22:00 |
| mnewby | danwent: will be submitting a revised version this week… reviews can wait until it gets updated. | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: Is there any API change that cannot be supported by 2.0 clients? | 22:00 |
| danwent | mnewby: ok, maybe make a note of that on the reivew so others don't waste cycles (if the changes are going to be substantial) | 22:01 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:01 |
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| mnewby | ok, will do | 22:01 |
| danwent | ok, one minute over time | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | pagination was backward compatible too (has to be - otherwise it won't be worth bumping up API version for it) | 22:01 |
| danwent | garyk is probably falling asleep :P | 22:01 |
| danwent | any open discussion? | 22:01 |
| garyk | danwent: yup. i'm toast. good night all | 22:01 |
| nati_ueno | I faced the problem with transaction and eventlet | 22:01 |
| danwent | please remember to sign up for review days | 22:01 |
| danwent | http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/ReviewDays | 22:02 |
| salv-orlando | and don't forget the '*' | 22:02 |
| danwent | and then to actually review :) | 22:02 |
| nati_ueno | This looks fatal problem, so I'm happy if I can get response for my mail | 22:02 |
| gongysh | yes. it is back compatible. | 22:02 |
| mnewby | anybody up for helping me get devstack running after the meeting? I'm seeing amqp problems and don't know where to start :( | 22:02 |
| gongysh | But we are forgetting this BP. | 22:02 |
| danwent | mnewby: i think several other people mentioned this as well | 22:02 |
| danwent | what is the error? | 22:02 |
| nati_ueno | mnewby: uninstall rabbitmq and delete /var/lib/rabbitmq | 22:02 |
| danwent | Ok, let's wrap up the official meeting, and anyone who wants can hang around to chat. | 22:02 |
| mnewby | nati_ueno: will do, thank you. | 22:02 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 3 22:03:00 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-03-21.00.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-03-21.00.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-03-21.00.log.html | 22:03 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: what are the issues you are seeing? | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | bye | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | good bye | 22:03 |
| danwent | bye folks! | 22:03 |
| sthakkar | bye | 22:03 |
| markvoelker | 'night folks | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I sent the mail for openstack-dev Lock wait of mysql blocks all eventlet thread | 22:04 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: so quantum using transaction which may lock. and when a connection locks, eventlet thread stops | 22:04 |
| danwent | mnewby: if nati_ueno's suggestion doesn't work, please ping the core team alias or the main ML | 22:04 |
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| danwent | nati_ueno: ok, will check out ML | 22:04 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Thanks! | 22:04 |
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| markmcclain | later | 22:05 |
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