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jgriffith | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 16:00:20 2013 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
jgriffith | hey folks! | 16:00 |
kmartin | hey | 16:00 |
xyang_ | hi | 16:00 |
avishay | hi | 16:00 |
DuncanT | Hey | 16:00 |
hemna | morning | 16:00 |
dricco | hi | 16:00 |
eharney | hi | 16:00 |
jgriffith | nice turn out :) | 16:01 |
jgriffith | So I don't have much in the way of formalities today | 16:01 |
jgallard | hi | 16:01 |
winston-d | hi | 16:01 |
jgriffith | Trying to do too much before next week | 16:01 |
jgriffith | winston-d: do you EVER sleep! | 16:01 |
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winston-d | jgriffith : :) | 16:01 |
jgriffith | Ok... let's roll | 16:01 |
jgriffith | #topic summit updates/plans | 16:02 |
vincent_hou_ | hi | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "summit updates/plans (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:02 | |
jgriffith | vincent_hou_: hey there! | 16:02 |
avishay | vincent_hou_: hi | 16:02 |
smulcahy | lo | 16:02 |
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jgriffith | I pushed session out to sched.org incase you didn't notice | 16:02 |
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vincent_hou_ | nice to see you. | 16:02 |
jgriffith | anything anybody sees as concerning so far? | 16:02 |
jgriffith | anybody think of a session topic that we need and don't have? | 16:03 |
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avishay | jgriffith: didn't check the sched but did you get the notice that winston-d and i are merging our similar sessions? | 16:03 |
hemna | jgriffith, state machine? | 16:03 |
winston-d | avishay : yeah, i told jgriffith about that. | 16:03 |
jgriffith | avishay: well... I got it yesterday from winston-d | 16:03 |
hemna | are we touching that for Havana? | 16:03 |
jgriffith | avishay: but I had already pushed | 16:03 |
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jgriffith | and I think we can fill two sessions on those topics | 16:04 |
jgriffith | so I scheduled them back to back and left them seperate | 16:04 |
avishay | jgriffith: yes we definitely can, ok | 16:04 |
DuncanT | I meant to ping Avishy about mentioning state machines duing smart shutdown but forgot | 16:04 |
jgriffith | we can meld the discussion across the two | 16:04 |
jgriffith | Oh snap! | 16:04 |
jgriffith | states! | 16:04 |
hemna | :P | 16:04 |
jgriffith | Ok... I have one reserved place-holder, that may be where that goes | 16:04 |
jgriffith | do we need an entire session for states? | 16:05 |
hemna | kinda felt like a big one? | 16:05 |
jgriffith | ie do we have enough thought around it to actually be productive in 40 minutes? | 16:05 |
hemna | not I | 16:05 |
winston-d | maybe not | 16:05 |
avishay | not sure | 16:05 |
jgriffith | I think we're going to miss it again | 16:06 |
jgriffith | Ok.. I proose this | 16:06 |
DuncanT | I can talk for 40 minutes on it, but I don't think it needs 40 minutes | 16:06 |
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jgriffith | DuncanT: fair | 16:06 |
jgriffith | alright.. plan: | 16:06 |
jgriffith | We'll talk informally between now and summit sessions | 16:06 |
jgriffith | and we'll see where it might tie in to the existing sessions | 16:07 |
jgriffith | ie as was mentioned during the shutdown session | 16:07 |
kmartin | jgriffith: want to mention the etherpad naming convention? https://etherpad.openstack.org/Summit-Havana-Cinder-<session name> | 16:07 |
jgriffith | kmartin: Oh.. yes, thanks! | 16:07 |
jgriffith | so for those that don't know | 16:07 |
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avishay | with capital letters? | 16:07 |
jgriffith | If you're doing a session create an etherpad as described. | 16:08 |
jgriffith | oops.. I'd prefer no caps, but if we've already started down that path, so beit | 16:08 |
avishay | any way to rename etherpads? i already made one. or just copy-paste into a new one? | 16:08 |
kmartin | some have been start already but easy to change | 16:09 |
hemna | soren, I've never "run" a session before | 16:09 |
jgriffith | avishay: I don't think you can rename, just copy/paste | 16:09 |
hemna | is there some preso required? | 16:09 |
avishay | jgriffith: ok no problem | 16:09 |
xyang_ | jgriffith: can you do a summit session with slides? | 16:09 |
hemna | or just show up with an etherpad and start talking? | 16:09 |
jgriffith | xyang_: etherpad and start talking typically | 16:09 |
xyang_ | jgriffith: is etherpad required? | 16:09 |
DuncanT | Copy/ paste an put a link in the old one to the new one | 16:09 |
jgriffith | xyang_: yes | 16:09 |
hemna | ok | 16:09 |
avishay | DuncanT: OK | 16:09 |
jgriffith | ehterpad allows us to have a record of the conversation | 16:10 |
hemna | at this point for the 2 sessions, I don't have much other than the ideas for the topics | 16:10 |
kmartin | solved: summit-havana-cinder-<session-name> | 16:10 |
xyang_ | ok thanks | 16:10 |
jgriffith | it also allows people to participate remotely | 16:10 |
jgriffith | kmartin: thank you sir! | 16:10 |
winston-d | xyang_ : i think you were there in last summit? | 16:10 |
jgriffith | hemna: that's fine | 16:10 |
jgriffith | hemna: not uncommon | 16:10 |
xyang_ | winston-d: yes | 16:10 |
hemna | ok | 16:10 |
hemna | I just feel unprepared :P | 16:10 |
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hemna | It's a learning process at this point for me. | 16:11 |
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jgriffith | hemna: Well fix that dan it :) | 16:11 |
jgriffith | hemna: just kidding | 16:11 |
jgriffith | hemna: So remember the idea is to collaborate | 16:11 |
jgriffith | hemna: not to just say "here's what I'm doing" | 16:11 |
avishay | jgriffith: where do we put the etherpads? i saw some wiki link but it didn't have the cinder sessions on it | 16:11 |
winston-d | hemna : :) it's more like discussion than presentation. so if you can get others to talk you don't even have to prepare anything. :p | 16:11 |
hemna | :) | 16:11 |
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kmartin | avishay: https://etherpad.openstack.org | 16:12 |
hemna | ok perfect | 16:12 |
jgriffith | avishay: That's what kmartin was pointing out | 16:12 |
hemna | I'm looking forward to it | 16:12 |
jgriffith | so you just create it with the convention he gave above ^^ | 16:12 |
jgriffith | is that what you meant? | 16:12 |
winston-d | there should be a wiki to keep track of all etherpads | 16:12 |
avishay | i mean, how do people find the etherpad for a session | 16:12 |
DuncanT | Is there an index of pads somewhere? | 16:12 |
hemna | winston-d, +1 | 16:12 |
jgriffith | avishay: and if I *find* the master key (which we have for the entire summit) I'll add them | 16:12 |
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hemna | you can't search on the etherpad site :( | 16:13 |
vincent_hou | summit-havana-cinder-<session-name>. do we keep the <>? | 16:13 |
avishay | vincent_hou: no | 16:13 |
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jgriffith | DuncanT: typically we'll have a key when the sessions get going | 16:13 |
DuncanT | vincent_hou: No | 16:13 |
jgriffith | DuncanT: also that's why the naming convention | 16:13 |
vincent_hou | ok | 16:13 |
jgriffith | But I'll find out where we're putting the key | 16:13 |
avishay | so meanwhile i'll make an etherpad and hope i don't lose the URL :P | 16:13 |
jgriffith | I should've updated the session info with the etherpad link | 16:14 |
avishay | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Grizzly/Etherpads | 16:14 |
jgriffith | I meant to do that after last summit | 16:14 |
DuncanT | jgriffith: I know I screwed up all mine last year and had to do some rapid fixup, but the gods of wifi coverage were kind and I managed to sort it before the session started :-) | 16:14 |
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kmartin | DuncanT: Grizzly etherpads: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Grizzly/Etherpads | 16:14 |
avishay | oops that's the old one | 16:14 |
jgriffith | haha... Yes, you and I both had some issues as well as some others | 16:14 |
avishay | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Havana/Etherpads | 16:14 |
jgriffith | avishay: perfect! thanks | 16:14 |
hemna | ok who's creating the Cinder section? | 16:15 |
hemna | so we don't all do it :) | 16:15 |
jgriffith | I'm doing it now | 16:15 |
jgriffith | Once it's up you can put your own session etherpad link in | 16:15 |
avishay | just an off-topic announcement - the patch to fix jenkins tests just went through - i will add 'recheck's | 16:15 |
hemna | thanks | 16:15 |
smulcahy | avishay: thanks - you putting rechecks on all? | 16:17 |
jgriffith | avishay: coolness! | 16:17 |
avishay | smulcahy: well those for master ... we'll need to deal with grizzly backports now.... | 16:17 |
avishay | :( | 16:17 |
jgriffith | Ok... the cinder section is up | 16:17 |
smulcahy | yeah, they need to pull your patch too I think | 16:17 |
jgriffith | alright... | 16:18 |
jgriffith | So on sessions, there's one outlier here | 16:18 |
jgriffith | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/45 | 16:19 |
jgriffith | So this one is an interesting topic and I think it's important | 16:19 |
avishay | jgriffith: try again without the 'edit' | 16:19 |
avishay | jgriffith: 'forbidden' | 16:19 |
jgriffith | however, I don't feel there's enough info | 16:19 |
jgriffith | DOH | 16:19 |
jgriffith | every time!!! | 16:19 |
avishay | :) | 16:19 |
winston-d | s/edit/details/ | 16:19 |
jgriffith | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/45 | 16:20 |
DuncanT | jgriffith: Unconference it ? | 16:20 |
avishay | jgriffith: did you talk to lifeless ? | 16:20 |
jgriffith | winston-d: thanks | 16:20 |
jgriffith | DuncanT: yes | 16:20 |
jgriffith | avishay: yes extensively | 16:20 |
jgriffith | My concern is that the problem definition isn't very clear | 16:21 |
jgriffith | we'll never be productive in 40 minutes | 16:21 |
avishay | jgriffith: i see | 16:21 |
jgriffith | It took me that long to get all of the pieces to this put together | 16:21 |
jgriffith | let alone think about solving it :) | 16:21 |
jgriffith | So I've prposed to him we unconf it | 16:21 |
DuncanT | It does seem like an interesting problem space though | 16:21 |
jgriffith | DuncanT: indeed | 16:21 |
jgriffith | but it's a bit vague on what it is | 16:22 |
jgriffith | it doesn't fit nicely into any existing model's IMO | 16:22 |
jgriffith | anyway... | 16:22 |
jgriffith | wanted to make everyone aware | 16:22 |
jgriffith | we'll be talking about it | 16:22 |
jgriffith | but may not have a formal session | 16:22 |
winston-d | thanks for the heads-up. that's interesting topic | 16:23 |
jgriffith | cool cool | 16:24 |
jgriffith | #topic bugs | 16:24 |
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DuncanT | Are we still planning on a testing unconf too? | 16:24 |
jgriffith | DuncanT: indeed | 16:24 |
j_king | yay testing. :) | 16:24 |
jgriffith | j_king: :) | 16:24 |
avishay | what's an unconference? | 16:24 |
jgriffith | Unconference is the same as a session | 16:25 |
jgriffith | but we hijack a room | 16:25 |
jgriffith | and just get together even less formally | 16:25 |
avishay | gotcha | 16:25 |
jgriffith | So there's a number of annoying little things showing up | 16:25 |
jgriffith | I just wanted to put the call out, PLEASE make sure you're testing this week | 16:26 |
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hemna | Is there a list of these unconfs ? | 16:26 |
jgriffith | and of course triaging/filing and fixing | 16:26 |
jgriffith | and don't forget about reviews | 16:26 |
DuncanT | hemna: They get posted at the event | 16:26 |
jgriffith | hemna: no | 16:26 |
hemna | k | 16:26 |
jgriffith | That's all I got... anybody else? | 16:26 |
jgriffith | #topic open discussion | 16:26 |
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hemna | we have a stress test tool that I wrote here that we are using to stress test cinder and our drivers | 16:27 |
jgriffith | hemna: nice! | 16:27 |
avishay | anyone know when does the next grizzly version come out with backports? | 16:27 |
avishay | usually 2 months, right? | 16:27 |
hemna | it's not really ready for public consumption, but would we be interested in making it available for public consumption or as part of the project somehow? | 16:28 |
jgriffith | avishay: thorw it on your github :) | 16:28 |
jgriffith | s/thorw/throw/ | 16:28 |
jgriffith | GRRRR | 16:28 |
jgriffith | hemna: | 16:28 |
avishay | jgriffith: right, that'll fly :) | 16:28 |
DuncanT | hemna: Sounds good - we've got a similar tool. There's a /really/ old version on github but another release would be a plan | 16:28 |
hemna | ok | 16:28 |
hemna | I'll see what I can do | 16:29 |
jgriffith | hemna: so if it can be made generic for the other drivers, it would be really cool to contribute! | 16:29 |
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hemna | It's very generic right now | 16:29 |
avishay | indeed | 16:29 |
jgriffith | ie tempest augment etc | 16:29 |
hemna | it's a threaded python app | 16:29 |
jgriffith | hemna: excellent! | 16:29 |
hemna | that basically uses the cinder client apis | 16:29 |
jgriffith | hemna: we seem to think alike ;) | 16:29 |
hemna | as well as the nova apis | 16:29 |
j_king | shareable block devices among several instances? | 16:29 |
hemna | to create N vms | 16:29 |
hemna | Y volumes, then attaches, detaches, etc | 16:30 |
jgriffith | I think it would be interesting to get something like that built up and added to CI | 16:30 |
avishay | j_king: that will be discussed at the summit | 16:30 |
vincent_hou | hemna: will it be an independent project? | 16:30 |
j_king | avishay: ah cool.. I'd like to follow that one closely | 16:30 |
hemna | We've found bugs in our drivers using the tool | 16:30 |
* j_king interested in distributed coordination | 16:30 | |
hemna | let me see if I can approval to post the code on my github | 16:30 |
hemna | then we can decide what to do with it....if anything | 16:30 |
jgriffith | hemna: that would be awesome | 16:30 |
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avishay | hemna: +1 | 16:30 |
winston-d | hemna : tempest has already some stress testing cases, maybe that's the right place to contribute | 16:31 |
hemna | ok | 16:31 |
hemna | I haven't mucked w/ tempest yet | 16:31 |
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jgallard | winston-d, +1 | 16:31 |
avishay | hmmm end meeting? | 16:32 |
jgallard | just for information, we have started some thoughts about: a way to place instances nearly to their volumes with ceph backend, for those who are interested an etherpad is available here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/instance-volume-collocation | 16:32 |
hemna | we have another script that is a continuous test script...it runs indefinitely to do various cinder actions. | 16:32 |
xyang_ | kmartin: have you found out where the new block storage admin guide is located | 16:32 |
kmartin | xyang_: yep | 16:33 |
avishay | jgallard: IBM has similar thoughts for GPFS | 16:33 |
xyang_ | kmartin: link? | 16:33 |
kmartin | xyang_: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-block-storage/admin/content/index.html | 16:33 |
jgallard | avishay, oh great! do you have some pointers? | 16:33 |
xyang_ | kmartin: thanks | 16:33 |
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avishay | jgallard: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/gpfs-vm-placement | 16:33 |
jgallard | avishay, ok, I didn't saw it, thanks | 16:34 |
avishay | jgallard: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/228 | 16:34 |
winston-d | jgallard : avishay will there be session for these two? | 16:34 |
avishay | winston-d: jgallard: the second link is a session | 16:35 |
jgallard | winston-d, probably it will be: http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/4dec95bea6e9d109f32448dc66cd6275#.UWVfsBeBrgU ? | 16:35 |
avishay | jgallard: don't think so, let me check | 16:36 |
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kmartin | jgriffith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/summit-havana-cinder-multi-attach-and-ro-volumes was added to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Havana/Etherpads#Cinder | 16:36 |
jgallard | avishay, ok, thanks | 16:36 |
jgriffith | kmartin: :) | 16:36 |
hemna | added my 2 sessions to the wiki | 16:37 |
jgriffith | cool.. we're rolling now | 16:37 |
avishay | jgallard: kind of a pain to map proposals to sessions | 16:37 |
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jgallard | avishay, YES!!! | 16:37 |
jgallard | :) | 16:37 |
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rushiagr | hi, sry m late | 16:38 |
jgriffith | rushiagr: no worries | 16:39 |
jgriffith | rushiagr: there seems to be something interesting going on with the netapp tests | 16:39 |
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jgriffith | rushiagr: ie they're failing :( | 16:39 |
jgriffith | rushiagr: not sure if folks already reched out to you on that or not? | 16:39 |
rushiagr | jgriffith: yeah, was tracking that | 16:40 |
jgriffith | rushiagr: cool | 16:40 |
jgriffith | alright.. I really don't have anything | 16:40 |
jgriffith | and we're all around in #cinder anyway | 16:40 |
rushiagr | made some progress on that, but yet to decide how to fix it off | 16:40 |
jgriffith | shall we call it a meeting? | 16:40 |
hemna | sounds good | 16:40 |
jgriffith | alright | 16:41 |
jgriffith | thanks everyone! | 16:41 |
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jgriffith | For those that will be in Portland, looking forward to meeting you all in person | 16:41 |
rushiagr | thanks | 16:41 |
jgallard | thanks! | 16:41 |
xyang_ | thanks | 16:41 |
winston-d | see u next week! | 16:41 |
vincent_hou | c u | 16:41 |
jgriffith | For those that can't make it, I try to get on IRC and maintain some communications on what's going on | 16:41 |
xyang_ | see u | 16:41 |
jgriffith | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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shardy | #startmeeting heat | 19:01 |
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shardy | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 20:00:50 2013 UTC. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
shardy | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
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zaneb | o/ | 20:01 |
shardy | shardy here | 20:01 |
asalkeld | o/ | 20:01 |
jpeeler | hi! | 20:01 |
stevebaker | w00t | 20:01 |
sdake | hi | 20:01 |
shardy | #topic Review last week's actions | 20:03 |
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shardy | So I don't see any in the minutes, and I didn't make last weeks meeting | 20:03 |
asalkeld | yea, I can't remember any | 20:03 |
shardy | Anyone got anything to report related to last week's discussions? | 20:03 |
sdake | the minutes are in a link off the agenda page but don't recall any actions | 20:03 |
shardy | ok, can move on then | 20:03 |
shardy | #topic Summit session review | 20:04 |
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shardy | So I guess we've reviewed the sessions, but are we happy with the sessions, and who's doing what? | 20:04 |
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asalkeld | yea, I need to do some work on mine | 20:04 |
llirkaz | Hello | 20:04 |
shardy | I'm planning to lead the credentials session, but anyone have anything they need help with for the sessions they proposed? | 20:05 |
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stevebaker | we should have time to prepare for the Heat Update session in person | 20:05 |
shardy | stevebaker: sounds good | 20:05 |
zaneb | not sure if SpamapS wants me to lead the parallel resource creation session? | 20:05 |
zaneb | also, not sure what that session should involve | 20:06 |
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shardy | For those who missed it earlier, we're planning an informal Heat get-together on the SUnday night | 20:06 |
zaneb | "once upon a time, I already wrote all the code." | 20:06 |
asalkeld | anyone has any thoughts on scaling heat look here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/heat-multiple-engines | 20:06 |
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shardy | zaneb: Live demo? :D | 20:06 |
zaneb | lol | 20:06 |
asalkeld | we should really put stuff in the etherpads so others can contibute | 20:07 |
zaneb | that assumes I can actually still get Openstack to install and run on my laptop | 20:07 |
barefoot | where will the information get together be? | 20:07 |
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barefoot | informal* | 20:07 |
asalkeld | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Havana/Etherpads#Heat | 20:07 |
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asalkeld | barefoot, don't know | 20:07 |
shardy | barefoot: to be decided | 20:07 |
barefoot | kk thanks | 20:07 |
asalkeld | we will meetup at the sunday summit registration | 20:08 |
asalkeld | I think that is 3pm | 20:08 |
stevebaker | ok | 20:09 |
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asalkeld | (see where to go from there) | 20:09 |
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shardy | Anything else summit related? | 20:09 |
zaneb | what is the deal with the OpenShift event on Sunday? | 20:09 |
zaneb | will that cause scheduling issues? | 20:10 |
stevebaker | I've signed up for it but I may just drift in an out | 20:10 |
asalkeld | not sure, but if you can go that would good | 20:10 |
hanney | o/ | 20:10 |
zaneb | stevebaker: link? | 20:10 |
stevebaker | http://openshiftorigincommunityday.eventbrite.com/ | 20:11 |
stevebaker | 3 tickets left! | 20:11 |
zaneb | btw, would any of the RAX folks who might be here like to introduce themselves? | 20:11 |
sandywalsh | o/ | 20:12 |
asalkeld | hi sandy | 20:12 |
oubiwann | zaneb: hey man, I'm Duncan McGreggor | 20:12 |
zaneb | so, there's two teams involved here from RAX, right? | 20:13 |
barefoot | zaneb: hey, I'm Shawn Ashlee | 20:13 |
shardy | welcome guys :) | 20:13 |
oubiwann | some other RAX folks are at lunch, but they should be here soon | 20:13 |
oubiwann | shardy: thanks! | 20:13 |
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zaneb | indeed, welcome | 20:13 |
barefoot | thanks | 20:13 |
oubiwann | wirehead_ <-- Racker too | 20:13 |
wirehead_ | hello | 20:13 |
zaneb | would y'all like to give us a rundown on which areas you're working in? | 20:14 |
asalkeld | are you guys attending other summit dev sessions? | 20:14 |
oubiwann | asalkeld: yes | 20:14 |
asalkeld | or could we do some more meetups on tue/wed | 20:14 |
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asalkeld | one of those days seemed a bit "light" | 20:14 |
oubiwann | still working out the logistics on who exactly will be there, but we'll be in most of the Heat discussions at the summit | 20:14 |
oubiwann | asalkeld: +1! | 20:15 |
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asalkeld | well maybe we can grab an unconf. room | 20:15 |
fsargent | I'm Felix Sargent, Hi! <-- Racker | 20:17 |
asalkeld | hi | 20:17 |
oubiwann | zaneb: oh, your suggestion -- yes, we can talk about the autoscale portion | 20:17 |
oubiwann | not sure if the other team is here right now or not? | 20:18 |
zaneb | ok cool, thanks for that guys | 20:18 |
oubiwann | we're super curious to see where folks want to take autoscaling | 20:18 |
asalkeld | you guys interested in autoscale must also go to the thursday ceilometer talks | 20:18 |
fsargent | I'll be there. | 20:19 |
asalkeld | planing alarming | 20:19 |
oubiwann | whether that's to split some portion out for a user-consumable API with a standalone REST API service or whether everything happens in Heat | 20:19 |
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oubiwann | whichever one ends up being the preferred approach, we want to start hacking on contributions that make "that" possible | 20:19 |
oubiwann | (whatever "that" ends up entailing) | 20:20 |
asalkeld | oubiwann, we could have a "user-consumable API with a standalone REST API service" in heat | 20:20 |
oubiwann | in other words, no agenda, just devs ready and waiting to jump in! | 20:20 |
asalkeld | that would also be easy | 20:20 |
asalkeld | cool | 20:20 |
oubiwann | asalkeld: that sounds like a great start, then! | 20:20 |
shardy | Yeah, agree, easiest first step is to leave the AS core logic in heat-engine and add a new API if that's what you need | 20:21 |
asalkeld | so one problem is it is difficult to depend on a non-core project | 20:21 |
zaneb | +1 | 20:21 |
SpamapS | o/ | 20:21 |
SpamapS | sorry.. got stuck in traffic | 20:21 |
oubiwann | SpamapS: wassup! | 20:21 |
asalkeld | wow we are going to have a pile of devs from now on | 20:23 |
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oubiwann | :-) | 20:23 |
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popstar | :) | 20:23 |
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shardy | Do we want to continue this AS discussion next week, and firm up plans potentially for some additional informal/meetup time during the week? | 20:24 |
oubiwann | asalkeld: sorry, working on parsing intent of that comment… maybe this?: meaning that keeping it in core makes things a lot easier, and if there ever was a need to split things, it would likely be very obvious and Heat would generate a new project (that presumably would also be accepted as core)? | 20:24 |
SpamapS | re Sunday night, thats a nogo for me, I don't arrive until nearly midnight | 20:24 |
asalkeld | :( | 20:24 |
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asalkeld | oubiwann, well we would have to have a copy in Heat | 20:25 |
oubiwann | ah, got it | 20:25 |
oubiwann | yeah | 20:25 |
oubiwann | awkward | 20:25 |
asalkeld | so if we really want to split | 20:25 |
asalkeld | the code will need to be sync'd | 20:25 |
SpamapS | regarding autoscaling, I'd suggest that people do some brain dumps to mailing list today/tomorrow so we can all do our homework over the weekend and come prepared with solid questions. | 20:25 |
asalkeld | for a while anyways | 20:25 |
lifeless | oubiwann: o/ | 20:25 |
* oubiwann nods | 20:25 | |
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oubiwann | SpamapS: +1 | 20:25 |
oubiwann | lifeless: ! | 20:26 |
zaneb | it's also a lot easier to incubate a new project inside an existing core project than to try and get it accepted from scratch | 20:26 |
stevebaker | nova->glance | 20:26 |
SpamapS | I'd also like people to think on what Heat really is and why it should encompass autoscaling. | 20:26 |
asalkeld | I am not sure of the value in seperating - personally, there is not much logic in autoscaling | 20:26 |
SpamapS | TO me, it is "the thing which calls the other APIs" | 20:26 |
asalkeld | if the monitoring can do alarms | 20:26 |
SpamapS | Which is why AS in heat makes a lot of sense. | 20:26 |
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asalkeld | basically what is left is cooldown | 20:27 |
zaneb | it makes sense that people who are not using templates still want to use autoscaling though | 20:27 |
rax_randallb | I can envision wanting to use AS outside of heat, though. | 20:27 |
asalkeld | you guys are getting confused with project view and deployment view | 20:28 |
SpamapS | zaneb: right, which is why I suggest Heat not be "the thing that parses templates into API" | 20:28 |
asalkeld | what project some code lives in does not determine how you deploy | 20:28 |
rax_randallb | asalkeld: right. sorry, kinda new to the party here. | 20:28 |
asalkeld | as long as we have a good seperate rest api for people to use | 20:29 |
asalkeld | (still open to tho') | 20:29 |
asalkeld | (still open to it tho') | 20:29 |
zaneb | that's true, as long as it really can be deployed independently | 20:29 |
SpamapS | The template API is just the declarative entry point. Imperative calls "make me a stack. make an instance in the stack. make a scaling group in the stack." should be added to appease the "no templates for autoscaling" use case. | 20:29 |
asalkeld | yip | 20:29 |
oubiwann | nice | 20:29 |
zaneb | our friend from the ML will not be happy | 20:30 |
* oubiwann chortles | 20:30 | |
oubiwann | but! | 20:30 |
SpamapS | zaneb: I hope that he will, once we are all in a room and chatting about it. | 20:30 |
oubiwann | it sounded like he just needed to have some good conversations with folks… | 20:30 |
oubiwann | SpamapS: bingo | 20:30 |
zaneb | hopefully | 20:30 |
zaneb | in any event, even if we want to make it separate, giving it a separate api is the first step | 20:31 |
SpamapS | This is why taking out the language from the wiki page "Heat is [basically CloudFormation]..." is so important. :) | 20:31 |
zaneb | so I think we can all support doing that | 20:31 |
SpamapS | "One aspect of Heat is compatibility with CloudFormation" | 20:31 |
asalkeld | well it has always been the project that uses everything | 20:32 |
asalkeld | so we end up having to impl. missing stuff | 20:32 |
asalkeld | like lb | 20:32 |
asalkeld | autoscale/cw | 20:32 |
asalkeld | and it makes sense to split some out | 20:33 |
asalkeld | but maybe not everything | 20:33 |
oubiwann | how far along is Quantum LBaaS, does anyone know? | 20:33 |
SpamapS | asalkeld: right, that pragmatism can continue for sure.. but autoscaling feels like it will happily live just fine in heat. | 20:33 |
SpamapS | oubiwann: PoC from what I understand, but rapidly evolving. | 20:33 |
SpamapS | as in, they have proved the concept | 20:33 |
oubiwann | rhm | 20:33 |
oubiwann | okay | 20:33 |
asalkeld | oubiwann, honestly not sure, but probably more evolved than ours | 20:33 |
zaneb | SpamapS: we couldn't split it out altogether without signoff from the TC anyway | 20:34 |
asalkeld | zaneb, I think they have an api | 20:34 |
asalkeld | (stable) | 20:34 |
asalkeld | that multiple projects implement | 20:34 |
SpamapS | we have a blueprint to make use of that? | 20:34 |
asalkeld | yea there is one | 20:35 |
* zaneb has lost track of what we're talking about | 20:35 | |
oubiwann | I think we're still on LB | 20:35 |
asalkeld | lbaas | 20:35 |
shardy | asalkeld: there is? | 20:35 |
zaneb | thanks ;) | 20:35 |
asalkeld | looking | 20:35 |
asalkeld | maybe not | 20:36 |
SpamapS | we're talking about how Heat has implemented things internally that exist in other incubated or even core projects (reddwarf and quantum lbaas) | 20:36 |
shardy | SpamapS: Yup, we should raise BPs for cases where there are viable projects we could use instead of our nested implementations | 20:37 |
asalkeld | so we need to use lbaas and ceilometer for alarming (when that is ready) | 20:37 |
zaneb | yeah, and we should scrap those internal implementations as soon as there's an integrated project for it | 20:37 |
oubiwann | I love you guys | 20:37 |
asalkeld | and there is moniker too | 20:37 |
asalkeld | yikes settle down | 20:37 |
asalkeld | ;) | 20:37 |
zaneb | rofl | 20:38 |
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shardy | Are we veering OT here - there's blueprint review on the agenda, shall we move on? | 20:38 |
SpamapS | zaneb: I think those should live-on as deprecated for a while. There will be times that compatiblity is not 100% and people need a release-cycle to fix things. | 20:38 |
zaneb | SpamapS: contrib/plugins? | 20:38 |
SpamapS | zaneb: yeah I like that | 20:38 |
zaneb | so glad we implemented that whole plugin thing | 20:39 |
barefoot | haha | 20:39 |
asalkeld | +1 | 20:39 |
zaneb | solves so many arguments :) | 20:39 |
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asalkeld | there seems to be a new aas every week | 20:39 |
lifeless | asalkeld: I was saying to a colleague the other day | 20:40 |
shardy | #topic Blueprint review for Havana | 20:40 |
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lifeless | asalkeld: we need aasaas | 20:40 |
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asalkeld | other thing when you see one is to encourage them to use heat for org | 20:40 |
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asalkeld | haha | 20:40 |
shardy | Looks like we got to this one: | 20:41 |
shardy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/auth-token-only | 20:41 |
shardy | stevebaker: you're working on this now right? | 20:41 |
stevebaker | Yep, just need some reviews on what is there | 20:41 |
* SpamapS will hit the review queue post meeting | 20:42 | |
* asalkeld not an auth guru | 20:42 | |
shardy | stevebaker: Ok, cool, I'll bump the status then | 20:42 |
stevebaker | It looks like there is potential to pass the service catalog from api->engine... | 20:42 |
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asalkeld | is there anyone interested in multi-cloud? | 20:42 |
stevebaker | so that can change anything that fetches auth_url from the context | 20:42 |
stevebaker | or an endpoint from heat-engine.conf | 20:43 |
asalkeld | like regersting multiple openstack clouds | 20:43 |
stevebaker | I had a play with multicloud against HP | 20:43 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, you could think about how we could support that | 20:43 |
stevebaker | I think we can get there, but we'll either need to patch or subclass keystoneclient auth_token | 20:44 |
shardy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/bash-environment-function | 20:44 |
stevebaker | yes, but would be easier to explain with a beer in one hand | 20:44 |
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asalkeld | :) | 20:44 |
shardy | zaneb: you happy to take this one? | 20:44 |
SpamapS | asalkeld: openstack-infra is interested in multi-cloud, but dunno if they can get to it this cycle. | 20:44 |
zaneb | sure | 20:44 |
asalkeld | sure | 20:44 |
stevebaker | zaneb: or choose a template format? | 20:44 |
zaneb | although, there was a competing proposal too I thought | 20:44 |
shardy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cfn-create-aws-symlinks | 20:45 |
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stevebaker | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/template-string-function | 20:45 |
asalkeld | isn't that done? | 20:45 |
shardy | So I think this one is being handled via heat-cfntools? | 20:45 |
asalkeld | aws-symlinks | 20:45 |
zaneb | stevebaker: yeah, that one. I like that one better | 20:45 |
asalkeld | ya | 20:45 |
stevebaker | that should probably be transferred to heat-cfntools | 20:45 |
shardy | stevebaker: k, I thought this was already done, we can move or obsolete it | 20:46 |
shardy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cloudwatch-update-stack | 20:46 |
shardy | I'm doing this one, should be simple | 20:46 |
asalkeld | that is going to be never ending | 20:46 |
asalkeld | o, that one | 20:47 |
stevebaker | shardy: I've obsoleted it | 20:47 |
asalkeld | didn't see the cloudwatch bit | 20:47 |
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shardy | oops | 20:47 |
shardy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/configurable-loadbalancer | 20:48 |
SpamapS | heh | 20:48 |
SpamapS | that one is obsoleted by lbaas | 20:48 |
asalkeld | I got quite far with that one | 20:48 |
zaneb | lets implement an LBaaS resource type instead | 20:48 |
asalkeld | not quite, it raised interesting issues | 20:48 |
asalkeld | so it was good | 20:48 |
shardy | ok, sounds good, we can raise a LBaaS BP and obsolete this one | 20:49 |
stevebaker | native *and* aws please? | 20:49 |
zaneb | for the nested stack resources we have... | 20:49 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, goes native | 20:49 |
shardy | stevebaker: agree, same goes for lots of other resource too tho ;) | 20:49 |
zaneb | it might be good to load the template from a file | 20:49 |
zaneb | instead of putting it inline | 20:49 |
SpamapS | 11 minutes... perhaps we should remain at periscope depth for the remainder? | 20:49 |
stevebaker | or reference a running stack? | 20:49 |
stevebaker | I'd like to talk heat-cfntools security fix release | 20:50 |
SpamapS | indeed | 20:50 |
shardy | Ok, lets move back to open discussion for the last 10mins and talk bps more next week | 20:50 |
shardy | I guess there will be lots more after summit anyway ;) | 20:50 |
SpamapS | next week == summit ;) | 20:50 |
shardy | #topic open discussion | 20:50 |
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stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat-cfntools/+bug/1164756 | 20:50 |
stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat-cfntools/+bug/1166323 | 20:51 |
shardy | So two things I wanted to mention: | 20:51 |
SpamapS | stevebaker: I think once the commits are solid we should draft an announcement, and just commit/release/announce all at once. | 20:51 |
shardy | 1 - I've offered to step in for sdake doing PTL duties, then we'll have a proper vote on it (and anyone else can step up) after summit | 20:51 |
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asalkeld | sounds good | 20:52 |
shardy | 2 - There a pile of VPC/Quantum related bugs in New state - stevebaker and/or jpeeler, can you triage and take some of those? | 20:52 |
stevebaker | yep, they should already be assigned, mostly to jpeeler ;) | 20:52 |
shardy | haha, nice :) | 20:53 |
shardy | Ok, anyone else got anything to discuss? | 20:53 |
asalkeld | try sleep on your flight | 20:53 |
wirehead_ | I have zero timezone changes on my flight. | 20:53 |
stevebaker | SpamapS has some /tmp security fixes for heat-cfntools. I just wondered if there is anything different we should do once they are ready for release | 20:53 |
asalkeld | maybe ask the os sec folks | 20:54 |
SpamapS | stevebaker: we don't need a CVE or anything, as heat-cfntools is pretty nascent and may not even be distributed just yet.. | 20:54 |
stevebaker | and Sources tarball extraction isn't working for me, which is hindering testing https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat-cfntools/+bug/1166323 | 20:54 |
SpamapS | asalkeld: I did, they said incubated projects don't fall under their umbrella, and suggest an informal release. | 20:54 |
asalkeld | maybe just release fast | 20:55 |
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SpamapS | yeah thats what I think we should do | 20:55 |
asalkeld | so people get the fixes | 20:55 |
stevebaker | SpamapS: OK, I guess you should just raise normal gerrit changes then | 20:55 |
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SpamapS | ok, can I get a commitment for reviews in the next 2 hours? | 20:55 |
SpamapS | actually | 20:55 |
SpamapS | lets coordinate in #heat | 20:56 |
stevebaker | yep, but as i said #1166323 doesn't work for me atm | 20:56 |
SpamapS | don't need everybody for this | 20:56 |
SpamapS | stevebaker: right I have a fix for that | 20:56 |
stevebaker | sweet | 20:56 |
* SpamapS is spinning a lot of non-heat plates this week unfortunately | 20:56 | |
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shardy | Ok, nearly out of time, anything else? | 20:57 |
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shardy | Ok, thanks all | 20:57 |
shardy | #endmeeting | 20:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 20:57:21 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-04-10-20.00.html | 20:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-04-10-20.00.txt | 20:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-04-10-20.00.log.html | 20:57 |
SpamapS | ty err'body | 20:57 |
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jd__ | #startmeeting ceilometer | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 21:00:36 2013 UTC. The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 21:00 |
jd__ | #topic Open discussion | 21:00 |
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asalkeld | hi | 21:00 |
eglynn | o/ | 21:00 |
dhellmann | o/ | 21:00 |
llu-laptop | o/ | 21:01 |
jd__ | hi everyone | 21:01 |
dragondm | \o | 21:01 |
apmelton | o/ | 21:01 |
jd__ | it's free fight today | 21:01 |
esdaniel | o/ | 21:01 |
* eglynn hates daylight savings | 21:01 | |
asalkeld | not as much as me | 21:01 |
eglynn | lets ban it for openstack! ;) | 21:01 |
* dragondm concurs | 21:01 | |
DanD | o/ | 21:01 |
gordc | o/ | 21:01 |
tongli | o/ | 21:01 |
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tongli | for DST, waiting until you start doing calendar apps. | 21:02 |
jd__ | makes sense | 21:02 |
jd__ | eglynn: should we vote on that? ;) | 21:02 |
eglynn | yeah, let's vote! ;) | 21:02 |
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jd__ | hehe | 21:02 |
* dragondm has been there, done that... Euch. | 21:02 | |
jd__ | so I'm not sure we have a lot of discuss, summit is coming RSN | 21:03 |
jd__ | anything about it? scheduled has been published | 21:03 |
tongli | it is not a bad idea to just use UTC, anyone represent data (doing UI) stuff can convert. | 21:03 |
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asalkeld | yea, just encourage people to meetup before thursday | 21:03 |
jd__ | btw the sessions about Ceilometer+nova-scheduler and Ceilometer+quantum were overlaping and has been moved, courtesy of russellb | 21:03 |
sandywalsh | o/ | 21:03 |
* russellb bows | 21:04 | |
eglynn | makes sense | 21:04 |
russellb | sandywalsh also had a session that seemed like you guys would be interested in, so i tried to make sure that didn't overlap either | 21:04 |
russellb | unified event notifications | 21:04 |
dragondm | Yup. | 21:04 |
eglynn | cool | 21:04 |
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* jd__ looks | 21:04 | |
jd__ | yep, already in my calendar, cool | 21:05 |
asalkeld | is Mehdi Abaakouk about | 21:05 |
dragondm | Sandywalsh and myself will be doing a session on notfications and verifying same as well. | 21:05 |
sandywalsh | russellb, the stuff we've been doing in stacktach lately has highlighted a number of problems with the existing notifications (missing events, confusing events, etc) | 21:05 |
jd__ | and not overlapping :-) | 21:05 |
russellb | sandywalsh: *nods* | 21:05 |
russellb | jd__: good | 21:05 |
jd__ | asalkeld: why? | 21:05 |
asalkeld | hoping we could talk before thursday about that patch | 21:05 |
jd__ | asalkeld: I mean what about Mehdi? | 21:06 |
asalkeld | unconf. walk through his patch | 21:06 |
eglynn | he's coming to summit, no? | 21:06 |
asalkeld | ? | 21:06 |
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jd__ | I've no idea | 21:06 |
eglynn | k | 21:06 |
asalkeld | that would help warm us up | 21:06 |
jd__ | sileht: coming to the summit? | 21:06 |
eglynn | yep | 21:06 |
eglynn | I thought he said he was, memory might be defective tho' | 21:07 |
jd__ | well I think he's asleep so we'll know tomorrow :) | 21:07 |
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eglynn | cool enough | 21:07 |
jd__ | eglynn: I don't see him on the list of eNovancers coming to the summit :( | 21:08 |
jd__ | http://www.enovance.com/fr/blog/5498/enovance-openstack-summit-portland | 21:08 |
eglynn | k, definitely defective memory so ... | 21:08 |
esdaniel | fwiw mehdi's twitter: @sileht | 21:08 |
jd__ | now we just have to get his phone number ;) | 21:09 |
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asalkeld | hah | 21:09 |
esdaniel | jd__ don't tempt me ;-) | 21:09 |
jd__ | anyway, me and nijaba will be happy to talk about it and be sileht's proxy if neede | 21:09 |
jd__ | +d | 21:09 |
asalkeld | +1 | 21:09 |
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eglynn | cool | 21:10 |
asalkeld | good to see what we have before planning what to do | 21:10 |
eglynn | yep | 21:10 |
eglynn | BTW, slightly off-topic ... | 21:11 |
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eglynn | if anyone needs edits done to the sched.org entries for their summit sessions | 21:12 |
eglynn | (say if the text got slightly mangled in the export from summit.openstack.org) | 21:12 |
eglynn | Kate Romero <kate@fntech.com> hez the powerz to fix | 21:12 |
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jd__ | has she the power to change the other talk entries too? | 21:13 |
eglynn | I'd guess she's omnipotent on all entries | 21:13 |
asalkeld | guys what is the input end to the "pipeline", just want to edit my post-api patch | 21:14 |
jd__ | I've desperately tried to change entries on Ceilometer talks without succes so far | 21:14 |
eglynn | jd__: drop Kate a mail, she's very responsive | 21:15 |
jd__ | asalkeld: check/grep ceilometer.pipeline.setup_pipeline | 21:15 |
jd__ | eglynn: awesome, thanks; she's from the foundation? | 21:15 |
asalkeld | thx | 21:15 |
llu-laptop | asalkeld: publisher? | 21:15 |
asalkeld | well I am doing the api post impl. | 21:16 |
eglynn | jd__: not sure, fntech.com doesn't suggest foundation, maybe a contractor | 21:16 |
asalkeld | so I want to generate samples | 21:16 |
jd__ | eglynn: k | 21:18 |
jd__ | asalkeld: yeah that's the road to take | 21:18 |
asalkeld | thx jd | 21:19 |
asalkeld | just waiting for wsme to release 0.5b2 | 21:19 |
asalkeld | so I can get the auth patch done | 21:19 |
jd__ | ah, I think we talked about a dinner at some points | 21:19 |
eglynn | yeah, show of hands for that? | 21:20 |
asalkeld | o/ | 21:20 |
eglynn | the Wednesday night, or? | 21:20 |
jd__ | considering how it has been a pain to organize the TC dinner already, I wonder if it's not be a bit too late to organize that | 21:20 |
asalkeld | also jd__ you registered for the red hat party? | 21:20 |
jd__ | eglynn: I've TC dinner on Wednesday :( | 21:20 |
jd__ | asalkeld: I registered for all parties \o/ | 21:20 |
asalkeld | me too | 21:20 |
eglynn | jd__: a-ha, I see ... didn't know about the TC dinner | 21:21 |
asalkeld | red hat ones sold out | 21:21 |
asalkeld | have to be quick | 21:21 |
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jd__ | I just didn't get any answer for Rackspace party I think | 21:21 |
jd__ | asalkeld: well I imagine they won't let you and eglynn out ;) | 21:21 |
asalkeld | I got a response quickly | 21:21 |
asalkeld | hah | 21:21 |
asalkeld | better not | 21:22 |
sandywalsh | jd__, I doubt you'll have any problems | 21:22 |
jd__ | sandywalsh: I'll tell to get you anyway if I have! ;) | 21:23 |
sandywalsh | jd__, sure thing :) | 21:23 |
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jd__ | anything else guys? :) | 21:24 |
asalkeld | nope, coffee time | 21:24 |
* eglynn reckons the party RSVPs are purely "advisory" anyway ... | 21:24 | |
sandywalsh | strap your rockets on for Thursday | 21:24 |
eglynn | (usually not too strict checking at the doors ...) | 21:24 |
eglynn | rockets are strapped! ;) | 21:25 |
sandywalsh | oh, one question | 21:25 |
sandywalsh | kind of a side note | 21:25 |
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sandywalsh | we've been kicking around the idea of a hackathon after the summit some time | 21:25 |
sandywalsh | perhaps all meet up somewhere for several days | 21:25 |
eglynn | interesting! | 21:25 |
asalkeld | would have good to know | 21:25 |
eglynn | stateside, or? | 21:25 |
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asalkeld | but flights booked... | 21:26 |
sandywalsh | no plans ... just a thought right now | 21:26 |
eglynn | how soon after summit? | 21:26 |
sandywalsh | I'm sure RAX could host in San Antonio | 21:26 |
sandywalsh | completely open | 21:26 |
sandywalsh | whatever works for the most people | 21:26 |
* eglynn would need to twist arms on travel budget | 21:26 | |
asalkeld | good idea, just expensive | 21:26 |
sandywalsh | yeah, likely ... let' | 21:27 |
asalkeld | me in au | 21:27 |
sandywalsh | let's keep it alive and talk more | 21:27 |
jd__ | sandywalsh: yeah I think it's a bit late, might be a good idea for the next summit though | 21:27 |
sandywalsh | yep, you're pricey :) | 21:27 |
eglynn | yep, defo an interesting idea, will kick it around with those who hold the purse strings | 21:27 |
esdaniel | is there any indication on when a euro summit might take place? | 21:27 |
eglynn | October I thought? | 21:27 |
sandywalsh | the summit is bad for these things. We've been trying to do a RAX meetup and can't find the time. haha. | 21:27 |
sandywalsh | I hear nearly 2500 people this time around, so it's going to be frantic | 21:28 |
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eglynn | esdaniel: Oct 2013 last I heard | 21:28 |
asalkeld | this time would have been good with all the action in Heat and Ceilometer | 21:28 |
* dhellmann is finally done with his conflicting meeting | 21:28 | |
sandywalsh | EU would be ok for me. Nova Scotia is close to the pond. | 21:29 |
jd__ | dhellmann: cool, we're closing this one ;) | 21:29 |
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sandywalsh | asalkeld, true | 21:29 |
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asalkeld | lots of both teams in eu | 21:29 |
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asalkeld | always wanted to got to paris... | 21:30 |
jd__ | you should | 21:30 |
sandywalsh | let's chat more at the summit | 21:30 |
asalkeld | ;) | 21:30 |
esdaniel | thkx eglynn - thus far date confirmed but not location | 21:30 |
eglynn | anyone like Guinness? | 21:30 |
esdaniel | :-) | 21:30 |
esdaniel | always | 21:30 |
dragondm | Oh yes. | 21:30 |
eglynn | plenty of that to be had in Dublin ;) | 21:30 |
esdaniel | Temple Bar Guiness best in world | 21:31 |
sandywalsh | not me, gets in my mouth. | 21:31 |
eglynn | LOL :) | 21:31 |
apmelton | as long as bailey's is not involved! | 21:31 |
asalkeld | haha | 21:31 |
esdaniel | there's that nasty shooter called a brain with baileys | 21:31 |
eglynn | sounds dangerous | 21:32 |
dragondm | Bleh. Baileys goes in coffee. | 21:32 |
sandywalsh | apmelton, we'll introduce you to the Irish Car Bomb | 21:32 |
apmelton | haha, I've heard stories | 21:32 |
jd__ | eglynn: +1 on Guinness | 21:32 |
eglynn | sandywalsh: semtex in a cocktail glass? ;) | 21:32 |
* asalkeld prefer Belgian beer | 21:33 | |
sandywalsh | eglynn, close ... Guinness + depth charge shot of Jameson's (like a boiler maker) | 21:33 |
sandywalsh | chug like a shooter | 21:33 |
eglynn | like mother's milk ;) | 21:33 |
sandywalsh | makes English optional | 21:33 |
* dragondm prefers Red Brest for whisky. | 21:33 | |
sandywalsh | damn, now I'm getting thirsty :) | 21:34 |
esdaniel | Lisbon has killer prices in October, Port's nice too | 21:34 |
asalkeld | I think this meeting is comming to an end | 21:34 |
asalkeld | later guys | 21:34 |
sandywalsh | o/ | 21:34 |
dragondm | see y'all in portland. | 21:34 |
eglynn | yep, a hackathon is defo one to mull over, probe travel budget etc ... | 21:34 |
esdaniel | have a great time in portland, wishing i was with you but will follow as best as can | 21:35 |
eglynn | cool, talk to y'all next week, safe flights etc... | 21:35 |
jd__ | yep, see you soon guys! | 21:36 |
jd__ | #endmeeting | 21:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 21:36:27 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-04-10-21.00.html | 21:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-04-10-21.00.txt | 21:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-04-10-21.00.log.html | 21:36 |
jd__ | and meeting in 2 weeks obviously :) | 21:36 |
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