| annegentle | anyway... those are the details | 00:00 |
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| annegentle | to fill in | 00:00 |
| sarob | sean like | 00:00 |
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| sarob | you will get a few more doc contributors | 00:00 |
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| annegentle | cool | 00:01 |
| sarob | cause that is the first thing im teaching the user group working on the training | 00:01 |
| fifieldt | :) | 00:01 |
| annegentle | yeah you guys are doing great | 00:01 |
| annegentle | really, really good stuff here! | 00:01 |
| fifieldt | +2 | 00:02 |
| sarob | so can you noodle on how to keep us from dupin stuff | 00:02 |
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| sarob | as the docs get mashed | 00:02 |
| annegentle | sarob: yeah been doin that, if you'll forgive another cheesey metaphor, we've got the patient on the operating table with the guts hanging out while we reorg | 00:03 |
| * sarob arrgghhh | 00:03 | |
| sarob | right | 00:03 |
| fifieldt | and we're fitting a permanent pacemaker, and replacing the lungs with machines | 00:04 |
| sarob | im meaning from the creating training materials based on the docs | 00:04 |
| fifieldt | the docs won't be stable for a few months, is my guess | 00:04 |
| sarob | if the operations training needs materials from multi locations | 00:05 |
| sarob | best way to stitch together | 00:05 |
| annegentle | sarob: I think we're just saying, the admin manual may be a different beast, divided in to an admin user guide and config ref | 00:05 |
| sarob | roger that | 00:05 |
| annegentle | sarob: and it won't be titled "Compute" only | 00:05 |
| sarob | the training will be more like assoc, ops, dev, devops | 00:06 |
| sarob | with subsection specialities | 00:06 |
| annegentle | sarob: yeah taht's why the audience, task, and objectives will help with matching | 00:07 |
| sarob | 3rd dimension | 00:07 |
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| sarob | i will add those attrib in | 00:07 |
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| annegentle | sarob: awesome | 00:08 |
| fifieldt | we're overtime for the meeting - any objections if I end the recording now? | 00:08 |
| sarob | nope, thanks for your time | 00:08 |
| fifieldt | #endmeeting | 00:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 00:08:31 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-06-26-23.10.html | 00:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-06-26-23.10.txt | 00:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-06-26-23.10.log.html | 00:08 |
| fifieldt | I'll still be here, of course :) | 00:08 |
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| sarob | i gots to run, but i love your guys feedback on the blueprint and etherpads | 00:09 |
| annegentle | fifieldt: oh but you didn't reveal all your findings | 00:09 |
| annegentle | how to help developers consuming API | 00:09 |
| fifieldt | yeah, still have to write those up | 00:09 |
| annegentle | oh ok | 00:09 |
| fifieldt | see about 57 minutes ago :D | 00:09 |
| sarob | sorry i talk to much | 00:09 |
| * sarob blush | 00:09 | |
| fifieldt | it's excellent sarob | 00:09 |
| fifieldt | :D | 00:10 |
| annegentle | sorry I didn't follow the agenda :) | 00:10 |
| fifieldt | that's fine | 00:10 |
| fifieldt | while reed's away, we can play :D | 00:10 |
| sarob | hah | 00:10 |
| annegentle | fifieldt: are you up for another meeting in a few hours on the phone/skype/hangout? | 00:10 |
| fifieldt | I'm free for the next 5 hours | 00:10 |
| annegentle | fifieldt: ok I'll call you in 2 or so | 00:10 |
| annegentle | ta! | 00:11 |
| fifieldt | np | 00:11 |
| sarob | cheers | 00:11 |
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| slavayssiere | Hi, i came from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo and the next meeting is on a past day. When will be the next meeting ? | 08:55 |
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| fifieldt | slavayssiere, oslo meets regularly on Fridays at 1400 UTC | 09:08 |
| fifieldt | oh - I just read "if someone adds an agenda" :) | 09:08 |
| fifieldt | probably best to ask on the mailing list | 09:08 |
| fifieldt | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingLists | 09:08 |
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| slavayssiere | thanks | 09:10 |
| slavayssiere | i will sent an email :) | 09:11 |
| slavayssiere | if I found the good mailinglist ;) | 09:12 |
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| jd__ | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 27 15:00:21 2013 UTC. The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| eglynn | o/ | 15:00 |
| jd__ | hi everyone | 15:00 |
| n0ano | o/ | 15:00 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:00 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann and sandywalsh are excused | 15:01 |
| litong | o/ | 15:01 |
| shengjie | o/ long time no see , guys | 15:01 |
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| jd__ | hi shengjie | 15:02 |
| eglynn | hey shengjie | 15:02 |
| jd__ | #topic Review Havana-2 milestone | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Havana-2 milestone (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:02 | |
| apmelton1 | 0/ | 15:02 |
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| jd__ | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-2 | 15:02 |
| shengjie | sorry being disappeared for a while, guys, some fires in Dell had to put off | 15:02 |
| jd__ | hehe | 15:02 |
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| jd__ | "duty calls" | 15:02 |
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| jd__ | so we're starting to be late for havana-2 | 15:03 |
| jd__ | <-- :-( unhappy face | 15:03 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann promised it'll tackle his bp next week | 15:03 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: you seem to be back on track so that's nice :) | 15:03 |
| eglynn | jd__: yep, nose back to the coding grindstone in a big way :) | 15:04 |
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| jd__ | I don't have much news of other blueprints, so please update your bp status if needed | 15:04 |
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| llu-laptop | Since fengqian is not here, I'll update his 2 bps: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/pollster-runtime-configuration, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/paginate-db-search | 15:04 |
| jd__ | llu-laptop: did he start already? | 15:05 |
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| llu-laptop | He started both already. | 15:05 |
| jd__ | great | 15:05 |
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| jd__ | #topic Release python-ceilometerclient? | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release python-ceilometerclient? (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:05 | |
| eglynn | yep, ceiloclient 1.0.1 is out | 15:06 |
| llu-laptop | for pollster-runtime-configuration, it has 2 dependency for both oslo.config and oslo.incubator. The oslo.config patch is merged, ans the oslo.incubator patch is being reviewed | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | I must admit I made a bit of a dog's dinner of what should have been a fairly trivial task | 15:06 |
| jd__ | llu-laptop: sounds great! | 15:06 |
| jd__ | eglynn: hehe :)) | 15:06 |
| eglynn | FYI, some notes I took of the my acculumated learnings ... | 15:06 |
| jd__ | eglynn: so next time will be a breeze right? | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | membership of ceilometer-ptl group is now required to push tags to ceiloclient: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/151,members | 15:06 |
| eglynn | release tag MUST be GPG-signed, otherwise release seems to work but tarball is not uploaded to http://tarballs.openstack.org (causing a dangling link from pypi) | 15:06 |
| eglynn | no need for the signing key to be exchanged, as no upstream GPG keyring maintained as yet | 15:06 |
| eglynn | requirements versioning now centralized, need to propose version update to https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/tools/pip-requires first | 15:06 |
| eglynn | need to wait on pypi mirroring for Jenkins builds to susceed, cron jobs run at 21:00-ish UTC daily: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/mirror.yaml | 15:06 |
| eglynn | whoops sorry for the big paste!! | 15:07 |
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| jd__ | :) | 15:07 |
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| eglynn | anyhoo, I'll know better next time | 15:07 |
| jd__ | (both eglynn and me are part of ceilometer-ptl for now, but if other people want to take the burden of doing release I can add ceilometer-core guys) | 15:08 |
| jd__ | anyhow thanks eglynn! | 15:08 |
| gordc | naw, i'm ok letting you guys handle it :) | 15:08 |
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| jd__ | #topic Mutiple dispatcher enablement | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mutiple dispatcher enablement (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:09 | |
| jd__ | litong: enlighten us | 15:09 |
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| litong | hi jd__, | 15:09 |
| jd__ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/multi-dispatcher-enablement | 15:10 |
| litong | the point of that blueprint is to allow multiple dispatchers(or publishers) so that metering data come out of the collector can go various places. | 15:10 |
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| litong | currently we can only make the data go to one database. | 15:10 |
| eglynn | i.e. maintaining multiple metering stores? nice | 15:10 |
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| litong | we (IBM) have a need to allow metering data not only going to db but also call out to other systems. | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | selectively for certain meters, or everything goes everywhere? | 15:11 |
| litong | so this effort will allow one to easily add new capabilities without touch ceilometer core. only configuration changes. | 15:11 |
| shengjie | litong: like notification thing? | 15:11 |
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| llu-laptop | can the current multiple publisher meet the requirement? | 15:11 |
| jd__ | sounds cool | 15:11 |
| jd__ | I remembered we talked about it | 15:12 |
| litong | @eglynn, can be both. | 15:12 |
| eglynn | cool | 15:12 |
| jd__ | litong: I'll take time to review the patch | 15:12 |
| litong | with Doug's suggestion go with the pipeline approach, that becomes a configuration issue. | 15:12 |
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| litong | jd__, the patch I put out there simply make record_metering_data as the new interface. | 15:13 |
| litong | Doug has some concerns and very much like to go with pipeline approach. I am in the works of submiitting another patch. so we can compare which is a better implementation. | 15:13 |
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| jd__ | cool, I'll wait that other patch then? :) | 15:13 |
| litong | if you look at the one I already put up there and put some commenst on , that will be great. | 15:14 |
| jd__ | ok! | 15:14 |
| jd__ | I can do that tomorrow | 15:14 |
| litong | problem with the pipeline approach is that the data has to be converted to Counter. | 15:14 |
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| litong | that means, the business (data structure) logic will have to be considered, I do not really like that. | 15:15 |
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| litong | Counter are the things the pipeline knows how to handle. | 15:15 |
| jd__ | I'm not sure about that, you could reuse the infrastructure without the plugins | 15:15 |
| jd__ | the pipeline doesn't really know about Counter I think | 15:15 |
| jd__ | it just passes data around | 15:15 |
| jd__ | or at lease we could modify it in this way | 15:15 |
| jd__ | (if needed) | 15:15 |
| litong | I think it actually does, if I pass simple data, it blows up. | 15:16 |
| jd__ | maybe there's some adjustement indeed | 15:16 |
| litong | right, that will be nice. | 15:16 |
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| gordc | litong, how far along is the pipeline impl? | 15:16 |
| litong | I like the capability of pipeline filter thing, I think that can be quite useful down the road. so the meter can be selective. | 15:16 |
| llu-laptop | I thinkt the problem for pipeline here is not in the polling metrics, but those metrics from noticitation | 15:17 |
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| llu-laptop | s/noticitation/notification/ | 15:17 |
| litong | very close, wanted to submit before the meeting but had a little problem to solve first. | 15:17 |
| litong | should be in today. | 15:17 |
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| gordc | cool cool, be cool to have a look. maybe a 2nd/3rd pair of eyes can spot any easy fix for your issue. | 15:18 |
| litong | so I would like this blueprint to be approved if it is all possible. | 15:18 |
| gordc | llu-laptop, do you mean the pipeline would miss meters from notification? | 15:19 |
| jd__ | litong: I can approve but you have to set a milestone | 15:19 |
| litong | ok. the other implementation should be in today. | 15:19 |
| llu-laptop | gordc: I don't think the pipeline supports notification metrics | 15:19 |
| litong | so I hope I can make havana-2 or we already passed it. | 15:19 |
| jd__ | litong: havana-2 is in ~3 weeks, so that should be ok | 15:20 |
| litong | ok. thanks. should be able to make it. thanks. | 15:20 |
| jd__ | here it is, you're in the roadmap now | 15:20 |
| gordc | llu-latop, hmm.. that would suck. i'd need to take a look at code again. brain isn't working yet. | 15:21 |
| litong | jd__, thanks folks. | 15:21 |
| gordc | good stuff, litong | 15:21 |
| litong | @gordoc, thanks. | 15:21 |
| jd__ | next topic then? | 15:22 |
| jd__ | #topic DB2 support | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DB2 support (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:22 | |
| jd__ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ibm-db2-support | 15:22 |
| jd__ | (this one is scary) | 15:22 |
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| litong | @jd__, IBM very much like Ceilometer to support db2 as its backend. | 15:22 |
| litong | currently we can try to use sqlachemy to do that. | 15:23 |
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| jd__ | cool | 15:23 |
| litong | but the problem is that after a lot of discussion, some of the developers in IBM think that using tables for metadata handling is really the wrong tool. | 15:23 |
| eglynn | is the objection related to metadata querying? | 15:24 |
| litong | the concern is really the query performance. w | 15:24 |
| eglynn | k | 15:24 |
| jd__ | litong: yeah classic problem | 15:24 |
| gordc | eglynn, no one on your end is looking at the sql metadata query bp right? | 15:25 |
| litong | we think that the freelance (metadata) and where the real value is in the metadata. be able to aggregate and query metadata is very important. | 15:25 |
| eglynn | gordc: nope | 15:25 |
| llu-laptop | that seems to be the problem for all SQL DB, I think | 15:25 |
| litong | @llu-laptop, totally agreed. | 15:25 |
| eglynn | so is there an alternative approach being mooted? | 15:26 |
| eglynn | (alternative to using tables that is ...) | 15:26 |
| litong | ibm is working on some feature on db2 which will actually allow docs. | 15:26 |
| litong | the point is that the implementation will not be based on sqlachemy. | 15:26 |
| gordc | .... yeah. i get the feeling this is just going to get pushed. sql metadata query seems like serious stuff. | 15:26 |
| litong | with relational database, no matter how hard you try, indexes, relationship, you can not really win at the end with freelance data. | 15:27 |
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| eglynn | "freelance data" == "free-form data" ? | 15:27 |
| litong | @eglynn, yes, exactly. | 15:28 |
| xingzhou | can be, no schema | 15:28 |
| eglynn | k, understood | 15:28 |
| shengjie | litong: as no-sql db, this is a win for HBase, dynamic columns, but we have other issues | 15:28 |
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| litong | @shengjie, yeah, it is always the word "other issues" get people concerned. | 15:29 |
| litong | so I think that my question is are we (ceilometer team) allow vendor specific drivers to be in Ceilometer or not. | 15:29 |
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| jd__ | I don't see the difference with something like the HBase driver | 15:30 |
| jd__ | what would it be? | 15:30 |
| eglynn | hmmm, how would such a thing be tested? | 15:30 |
| eglynn | (i.e. based on proprietary DB) | 15:30 |
| jd__ | eglynn: 'cause ya think we test HBase? | 15:30 |
| jd__ | :-) | 15:30 |
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| eglynn | LOL :) | 15:31 |
| eglynn | ... but we could! | 15:31 |
| eglynn | i.e. wouldn't be encumbered by software licensing etc. | 15:31 |
| * gordc is trying to fix hbase tests right now... isn't likely it already. | 15:31 | |
| litong | @eglynn, it will fall on the maintainer to test all the features. | 15:31 |
| shengjie | yeah, Ceilo architecture doesn't stop u from doing that, having another driver :) | 15:31 |
| jd__ | eglynn: we support Oracle via SQLAlchemy, we don't test it | 15:31 |
| gordc | s/likely/liking | 15:31 |
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| eglynn | jd__: true that, but I guess we still have a way of testing the sqlalchemy driver with OSS only | 15:32 |
| jd__ | gordc: fix hbase tests… you mean fix hbase :) | 15:32 |
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| litong | @jd__, I think it will fall on the shoulders of the parties who interested in these drivers to do the work. | 15:32 |
| litong | both development and testing. | 15:32 |
| jd__ | eglynn: point taken, I'm trying to be the devil's advocate as usual | 15:32 |
| eglynn | sure, understood | 15:32 |
| jd__ | litong: I agree | 15:32 |
| litong | as of now, it will be me, gordon and ibmers. | 15:32 |
| gordc | jd__, if that's what's needed, then i'm stopping my efforts now.lol | 15:32 |
| jd__ | gordc: haha I don't know really :) | 15:33 |
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| shengjie | litong: agree, whoever is using the driver should test the drivers themselves, as community effort, we test it at the unit-testing level | 15:33 |
| jd__ | to me HBase or DB2 is kind of the same, I'll never go and fix them anyway, being the database | 15:33 |
| jd__ | to me HBase or DB2 is kind of the same, I'll never go and fix them anyway, being the database free or not | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | so presumably at least the gluecode would be opensource? | 15:34 |
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| eglynn | (i.e. the clientside DB2 library, whatever the direct dependency would be ...) | 15:34 |
| jd__ | I hope it is already indeed | 15:34 |
| jd__ | that would be a blocker otherwise I think | 15:34 |
| litong | @eglynn, exactly, so when interface changes etc, these drivers can be at least checked on. | 15:34 |
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| jd__ | or we won't be able to at least declare a dependency on it | 15:35 |
| eglynn | jd__: yep, agreed | 15:35 |
| litong | @eglynn, the idea is that the driver will not introduce new dependencies. | 15:35 |
| eglynn | litong: a-ha, OK | 15:35 |
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| litong | at least that is what I am aiming at. | 15:35 |
| eglynn | fair enough | 15:35 |
| jd__ | yup. | 15:36 |
| litong | approval of this blueprint will also encourage other vendors to be involved. if that is just a side effect. | 15:36 |
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| jd__ | I'm ok to approve, what's the milestone you target? | 15:38 |
| litong | havana-2 as well. | 15:38 |
| jd__ | done | 15:38 |
| litong | I have something already working mostly. | 15:38 |
| litong | thanks jd__ | 15:38 |
| jd__ | ok | 15:39 |
| jd__ | litong: update the status as you move on this :) | 15:39 |
| jd__ | and on the other one | 15:39 |
| litong | will do | 15:39 |
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| jd__ | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
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| eglynn | just a quick heads-up on the HK summit | 15:41 |
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| eglynn | very early days still obviously, but apparently the conference hotel (marriott) is filling up v. fast | 15:41 |
| eglynn | (in case anyone on the team is mulling whether to pull the trigger on booking) | 15:41 |
| eglynn | cancellation policy is nasty tho' | 15:42 |
| litong | @eglynn, there are not many hotels close to the conference location. | 15:42 |
| eglynn | litong: yep, it's out by the airport right? | 15:42 |
| litong | @eglynn, agreed. | 15:42 |
| gordc | let's see if i get funding this time. | 15:42 |
| litong | @eglynn, yes, it is far away from anywhere. | 15:42 |
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| litong | I lived in HK for two years, so I have a bit information about the area. | 15:43 |
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| * jd__ booked already | 15:43 | |
| llu-laptop | litong: no easy public transport? | 15:44 |
| eglynn | litong: taxis required to get anywhere? | 15:44 |
| litong | public transportation is great here. you can go anywhere with bus or subway. | 15:44 |
| litong | I mean great there. | 15:44 |
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| litong | it just takes time. | 15:44 |
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| litong | and a lot of walking. | 15:44 |
| eglynn | cool | 15:44 |
| eglynn | good for the cardio :) | 15:45 |
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| litong | @eglynn, totally. | 15:45 |
| litong | HK is a great place, just not that particular location. | 15:45 |
| dhandy | Hi all. I have a question about the Monitoring Physical Devices blueprint. | 15:45 |
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| dhandy | We have an interest in that. | 15:46 |
| gordc | side topic - can someone quickly review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33528 -- i'm cool, if you tell me to abandon it because it's not needed | 15:46 |
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| dhandy | The status for Monitoring Physical Devices is "needs code review" | 15:47 |
| gordc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/monitoring-physical-devices | 15:47 |
| dhandy | Is anyone planning on reviewing that? | 15:47 |
| llu-laptop | dhandy: I think there is already some review comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30700/ | 15:47 |
| jd__ | they did they will split it up in patches | 15:48 |
| jd__ | it's really big | 15:48 |
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| gordc | agreed - didn't look at it because i'm not an expert on it and 1300 lines was too much. :) | 15:48 |
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| llu-laptop | I guess the patch set 2 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30700/ is considered to be the first part of the splitting, comparing to patchset 1 | 15:49 |
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| jd__ | ok i'll take a look then | 15:50 |
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| jd__ | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
| dhandy | Ok, thanks. | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 15:51:07 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-06-27-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-06-27-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-06-27-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | see you guys! | 15:51 |
| gordc | llu-laptop, lol, that was the split? looks like i have no excuse then. | 15:51 |
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| llu-laptop | gordc: that's only my guessing | 15:51 |
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| llu-laptop | gordc: It seems the snmp inspector is not there in patchset2, so I guess that's the splitting | 15:52 |
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| dkranz | Any one here for the qa meeting? | 17:00 |
| giulivo | me | 17:01 |
| ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:01 |
| dkranz | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 27 17:01:08 2013 UTC. The chair is dkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:01 |
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| dkranz | So there is nothing on the agenda in the wiki at the moment. | 17:01 |
| dkranz | Who else is here? | 17:01 |
| mlavalle | Hi | 17:02 |
| giulivo | dkranz, honestly I was looking forward for some updates on testr | 17:02 |
| giulivo | and the migration from nose to testr | 17:02 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Me too, but the reporters are in NY. | 17:02 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Since next Thursday is a major US holiday, we should ask them for status on the mailing list. | 17:03 |
| giulivo | plus I wanted to introduce a couple of topics | 17:03 |
| giulivo | 1. enable Heat in gating jobs | 17:03 |
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| dkranz | There was some discussion about whether heat should have its own job. | 17:04 |
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| dkranz | That made sense to me. | 17:05 |
| giulivo | that means a new VM as per quantum? | 17:05 |
| dkranz | Yes. | 17:05 |
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| dkranz | But it really depends on what the heat tests are ultimately doing. | 17:06 |
| dkranz | We should ping Steve Baker about that. | 17:06 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Do you have anything to add about this? | 17:07 |
| giulivo | no I'd start work on those | 17:07 |
| giulivo | as soon as the things reach some level of stabilization | 17:07 |
| giulivo | so currently I'm keeping an eye on the reviews | 17:08 |
| dkranz | giulivo: what kind of work do you mean you would start? | 17:08 |
| giulivo | maintain the existing heat tests | 17:08 |
| giulivo | and improve where necessary | 17:08 |
| giulivo | with tests for the additional functionalities | 17:08 |
| giulivo | it is mostly what I've done with cinder | 17:08 |
| psedlak | hi, sorry for being late | 17:08 |
| dkranz | psedlak: np | 17:08 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Perhaps you should check with Steve Baker about his plans going forward. | 17:09 |
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| psedlak | after quick look, they already have the gate/smoke attrs, so they were already run when proposed right? | 17:09 |
| giulivo | ideally, but AFAIK heat is just disabled | 17:09 |
| dkranz | psedlak: I believe the issue is that devstack by default is not setting up heat. | 17:09 |
| dkranz | So we either need to turn it on for all tempest jobs, or run them in a separate job. | 17:10 |
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| psedlak | oh i see | 17:10 |
| afazekas | hi | 17:10 |
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| dkranz | #topic QA as an OpenStackk Program | 17:11 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: hi there | 17:11 |
| dkranz | As Sean said, it makes sense to choose a "leader" and then let that person drive producing the mission. | 17:11 |
| dkranz | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-June/010950.html | 17:12 |
| psedlak | well imho it depends, if there will be some non-gating tests, they should be later part of full/periodical test right? | 17:12 |
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| dkranz | psedlak: RIght, that full/periodic would be configured with heat. | 17:12 |
| psedlak | and also if heat is not set-up by devstack now, that should be fixed first ... or why not? | 17:12 |
| dkranz | psedlak: We could just do that for all jobs. | 17:13 |
| psedlak | dkranz: ok, but what's the reason to not have heat also in the gate job? | 17:13 |
| dkranz | psedlak: I am not sure but there was a discussion about it. | 17:13 |
| dkranz | I don't really care either way but we should check with the infra folks. | 17:14 |
| giulivo | psedlak, it is roughly perceived as a slowdown | 17:14 |
| psedlak | :/ | 17:14 |
| giulivo | and just an additional layer on top of the APIs we test already | 17:14 |
| psedlak | dkranz: makes sense | 17:14 |
| giulivo | so it'd be worth write some specifics for Heat, but going trough the whole process would just produce | 17:15 |
| giulivo | more testing for the underlying API | 17:15 |
| giulivo | we should try to test the logic in Heat, not the actual functionalities | 17:15 |
| dkranz | giulivo: I presume that is the focus of the tests now being added. | 17:15 |
| psedlak | giulivo: not only that, also coop between heat and those underlying APIs ... the heat itself ... or? | 17:15 |
| giulivo | dkranz, to be honest | 17:15 |
| giulivo | partially it is | 17:15 |
| giulivo | but I see added unneeded stuff | 17:15 |
| giulivo | like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33899/ | 17:16 |
| dkranz | giulivo: This is really a question of what the heat test plan is. | 17:16 |
| giulivo | yeah | 17:16 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Can you make sure there is one :) | 17:16 |
| psedlak | ok, then those unneeded could be 'just' not marked as gate/smoke ... ? | 17:16 |
| dkranz | psedlak: If they are unneeded they should be removed. | 17:16 |
| giulivo | yeah actually there is a blueprint | 17:16 |
| giulivo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-heat-tests | 17:17 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Can you see if it is a real test plan? | 17:17 |
| dkranz | It doesn't seem to be. | 17:17 |
| psedlak | dkranz: really unneeded should be removed, i meant unneeded for gate/time-concerned testing ... | 17:17 |
| giulivo | yeah I think we're already going further the few tests described anyway | 17:17 |
| dkranz | giulivo: So what is the action to be taken here? | 17:18 |
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| giulivo | I'll try to get in touch with the author of the tests and see if we can draft more infos in the blueprint | 17:18 |
| dkranz | I have to step out for two minutes but please continue. | 17:18 |
| giulivo | stick with those tests | 17:18 |
| giulivo | and later work on the Heat VM | 17:19 |
| giulivo | ... | 17:19 |
| giulivo | so is there people focusing on blueprints which should get some attention? | 17:19 |
| giulivo | like, not yet prioritized? | 17:20 |
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| giulivo | ok I'd consider the silence as a no | 17:20 |
| giulivo | ... | 17:21 |
| giulivo | given that nobody jumped into the testr discussion either | 17:21 |
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| giulivo | I assume there aren't updates on that | 17:21 |
| giulivo | ... | 17:22 |
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| giulivo | and with that the last topic which I can think about | 17:22 |
| giulivo | is reviews in need of love | 17:22 |
| psedlak | giulivo: i think dkranz mentioned that testr state should be asked on ML | 17:22 |
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| giulivo | so before we get into the reviews needing help | 17:23 |
| giulivo | are there other topics proposed? | 17:23 |
| dkranz | The current topic was qa as a program. | 17:23 |
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| giulivo | dkranz, please go on | 17:24 |
| dkranz | The easiest thing would be for any one who wants to be the qa "leader" to send something to the mailing list. | 17:24 |
| dkranz | If there is more than one we would have a vote, same as other projects. | 17:24 |
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| dkranz | But I think being a Core reviewer would be necessary for the leader. | 17:25 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: I think we do not have everybody here to discuss the leader | 17:26 |
| giulivo | dkranz, doesn't the core team actually act as a group of people leading the program? | 17:26 |
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| psedlak | giulivo: no, core is about activity | 17:27 |
| giulivo | what would be the value added from having a "leader" ? | 17:27 |
| psedlak | giulivo: there is also drivers group | 17:27 |
| dkranz | giulivo: There are two answers. | 17:27 |
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| dkranz | One is that it is a technical requirement for being a program. | 17:28 |
| dkranz | The other is that the group will work better if some one knows it is there job to prepare an agenda for the meeting, organize blueprints, etc. | 17:28 |
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| giulivo | dkranz, indeed but I mean | 17:29 |
| dkranz | And attend cross-project/program meetings. | 17:29 |
| giulivo | isn't the current core group the tempest PTL? isn't the core group already in charge of those duties? | 17:29 |
| dkranz | I mean is required to attend. Any one can attend any meeting. | 17:29 |
| dkranz | giulivo: Yes, in our own little world. | 17:29 |
| dkranz | From the OpenStack perspective though, each group needs a representative and/or single point of contact. | 17:30 |
| giulivo | oh the PTL isn't a group | 17:30 |
| afazekas | dkranz: How can we decide who will be the single point of contact ? | 17:31 |
| dkranz | giulivo: No, it is the Project Technical Lead who is an elected person by the members of their group. | 17:31 |
| dkranz | afazekas: The same way as all the other projects: if there is more than one candidate, we vote. | 17:31 |
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| dkranz | We would have to determine who can vote but first let's see if there is more than one candidate. | 17:32 |
| afazekas | Who has a suggestion for PTL ? | 17:32 |
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| dkranz | sdague was suggested a while ago and he said he would be willing. | 17:33 |
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| jking_swift | identify 6dca42to04 | 17:33 |
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| jking_swift | or not | 17:33 |
| jking_swift | sorry, stupid client | 17:33 |
| dkranz | jking_swift: Huh? | 17:33 |
| giulivo | we won't steal your nick | 17:33 |
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| dkranz | Remember that "PTL" is not a position of any particular authority, more about dedicating time to the project in a reliable way with the backing of your employer. | 17:35 |
| dkranz | Any other comments about "PTL"? | 17:35 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: BTW, me saying single point of contact was a little misleading. | 17:36 |
| giulivo | my comment is that I don't see the vertical structuring a good idea | 17:36 |
| dkranz | There is hardly anything that would be sent only to that person. | 17:36 |
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| giulivo | so I'd prefer to keep that a group, as it has been with the "core" team of people | 17:36 |
| giulivo | but clearly it is just my 2c | 17:37 |
| dkranz | It is more that the leader is *required* to do certain things and takes on that responsibility. | 17:37 |
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| giulivo | dkehn, indeed, required by? | 17:37 |
| afazekas | giulivo: It is the normal Openstack way, projects has a PTL | 17:37 |
| giulivo | yeah | 17:37 |
| dkranz | giulivo: We don't really have a choice. | 17:37 |
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| dkranz | giulivo: required to show up at the weekly project meeting, for example. | 17:38 |
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| dkranz | So if there are no more comments I will send something to this list requesting people to express their interest. | 17:39 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: sounds good to me | 17:40 |
| dkranz | Any other items to discuss? | 17:40 |
| dkranz | I am still trying to find time to do some more work on the stress tests. | 17:40 |
| afazekas | Back to the heat test, one of the most interesting heat feature is the auto-scaling | 17:41 |
| afazekas | At gate time until we do not get normal parallel test execution, it would be difficult to do | 17:42 |
| afazekas | Probably some heat tests needs to be switched periodic, but we will see | 17:43 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: Yes, longer running scenario tests should be on our radar screen. | 17:44 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: Yes, so probably we will need find some good balance , how and when to run the heat tests | 17:45 |
| dkranz | afazekas: We just need the test plan. Once we know what is to be run we can decide how and when. | 17:46 |
| afazekas | Log time ago I got little more input from heat guys, I'll try to add some summary to the blueprint | 17:46 |
| afazekas | long | 17:46 |
| dkranz | afazekas: That would be great. In my view of the world, every blueprint would contain a complete test plan ideally. | 17:46 |
| giulivo | afazekas, yeah I think we should try to find the scope of the tests firstly | 17:46 |
| afazekas | dkranz: ok, I try to collect the infos | 17:46 |
| dkranz | I understand that is not realistic in many cases. | 17:47 |
| afazekas | dkranz: The heat team has high level, concept . But it enough to see, what is coming, and what kind of changes might be necessary | 17:48 |
| dkranz | afazekas: OK, good. | 17:48 |
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| dkranz | ANything else | 17:50 |
| dkranz | ? | 17:51 |
| dkranz | #action David will send email to the list about choosing leader | 17:51 |
| dkranz | Going once... | 17:51 |
| psedlak | and maybe about testr status? or giulivo wants to send it ... | 17:52 |
| dkranz | psedlak: I can send that too. | 17:52 |
| dkranz | #action David will request status of testr on the list | 17:52 |
| dkranz | Going twice... | 17:52 |
| psedlak | bye :) | 17:52 |
| dkranz | Bye all. I think there may be no meeting next week, at least from US participants. | 17:53 |
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| dkranz | July 4 holiday. | 17:53 |
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| dkranz | #endmeeting | 17:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 17:53:40 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-06-27-17.01.html | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-06-27-17.01.txt | 17:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-06-27-17.01.log.html | 17:53 |
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| harlowja | #startmeeting state-management | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 27 20:00:43 2013 UTC. The chair is harlowja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: state-management)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'state_management' | 20:00 |
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| harlowja | hallo all! | 20:00 |
| adrian_otto | hi | 20:00 |
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| harlowja | hi hi | 20:01 |
| kchenweijie | hi | 20:01 |
| jlucci | hola | 20:01 |
| harlowja | howday | 20:01 |
| harlowja | so i guess we got enough of the major people, others feel free to chime in :) | 20:02 |
| harlowja | so lets see, action items from last time | 20:02 |
| harlowja | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/state_management/2013/state_management.2013-06-20-20.00.html | 20:02 |
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| harlowja | seems like most of them were *started/completed* | 20:02 |
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| harlowja | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow is forming up pretty nicely | 20:03 |
| harlowja | thx adrian_otto and others | 20:03 |
| harlowja | also just got some examples going | 20:03 |
| kebray | late, but I'M HERE. | 20:04 |
| harlowja | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Examples (nothing super duper yet) | 20:04 |
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| harlowja | howday! | 20:04 |
| kebray | woah.. caps lock went crazy. sorry. | 20:04 |
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| jlucci | haha Just thought you were really excited to be here. : P | 20:04 |
| kebray | that too jlucci | 20:05 |
| harlowja | kebray DEEP BREATHS | 20:05 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:05 |
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| harlowja | kebray just going over action items that i think were pretty much all mostly done | 20:05 |
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| * adrian_otto eye roll | 20:05 | |
| harlowja | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow/HavanaSummitPresentationAbstract was yours which seems like its starting to shape up | 20:05 |
| kebray | yep. | 20:05 |
| harlowja | what else, ummm, i put some comments on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/TaskSystemRequirements but waiting for zane to get back to discuss more | 20:06 |
| harlowja | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/TaskSystemRequirements | 20:06 |
| kebray | My other action is happening organically.. and, with Zane out, I think we are progressing well for now. | 20:06 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:06 |
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| adrian_otto | I left an open question unanswered on that | 20:06 |
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| harlowja | ?? | 20:06 |
| adrian_otto | on the HacanaSummitPresentationAbstract I had mentioned a need for a mission statement | 20:07 |
| harlowja | ah | 20:07 |
| adrian_otto | Keith followed up with a question asking for clarification | 20:07 |
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| harlowja | ya, all coming back now | 20:07 |
| * kebray thinks mission statement isn't needed since we aren't proposing TaskFlow for an OpenStack top-level project. | 20:08 | |
| adrian_otto | I meant that if it were to be considered as what is now being discussed as an "OpenStack Program" that it wold need an individual project mission statement | 20:08 |
| adrian_otto | that's right, it's not needed for the current scope | 20:08 |
| kebray | It'll be needed when we expand scope to something more like Convection. | 20:08 |
| harlowja | "take over the world" not allowable as a mission statement? | 20:08 |
| adrian_otto | where my remark matters is where Joshua pulled in the reference to Thierry's proposal email to the openstack-dev mailing list | 20:08 |
| adrian_otto | so is that clear? I'm suggesting we table that. | 20:09 |
| harlowja | sure, thats fine with me | 20:09 |
| kebray | Works for me. | 20:09 |
| adrian_otto | and cross taht bridge when we come to it | 20:09 |
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| harlowja | sounds great | 20:09 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to switch topics to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/TaskSystemRequirements now | 20:09 |
| harlowja | sure, lets jump there and see how much to talk about | 20:10 |
| harlowja | #topic continued-heat | 20:10 |
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| harlowja | so theres a few on there that i'll have to talk to zane about, or just in general | 20:10 |
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| harlowja | "Tasks propagate exceptions" is a little awkward when u have many tasks running in parallel, what happens to the potential X exceptions that can pop out | 20:11 |
| harlowja | where X >1 | 20:11 |
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| harlowja | and some of them on that requirement list seem pretty subjective, so need to understand those more clearly | 20:12 |
| harlowja | 'Tasks don't make debugging unnecessarily difficult' for example | 20:12 |
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| harlowja | but i think all those can be discussed and either removed or clarified | 20:12 |
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| harlowja | any comments/concerns/questions from others? | 20:13 |
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| adrian_otto | We should probably revisit the requirements when Zane is available to discuss them | 20:13 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:13 |
| jlucci | + 1 | 20:13 |
| adrian_otto | there are enough details present to remind us once we understand them | 20:14 |
| kebray | +1 | 20:14 |
| adrian_otto | but that's by no means a spec | 20:14 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:14 |
| adrian_otto | many are subjective | 20:14 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:14 |
| adrian_otto | so those will need to be expanded to include some concrete criteria by which to measure confirmance | 20:14 |
| harlowja | sure | 20:15 |
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| harlowja | +1 | 20:15 |
| adrian_otto | let's not go overboard, but ther eis enough in question so that it's not actionable without refinement | 20:15 |
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| adrian_otto | I think we have enough to avoid going in a completely different direction though, so I'm happy we have something in writing. | 20:15 |
| harlowja | ya, it seems like we have been thinking along the same lines | 20:16 |
| harlowja | +- a little | 20:16 |
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| harlowja | sweet, onto next topic? | 20:16 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so can we commit to action items relating to building usage examples? | 20:17 |
| adrian_otto | I see that in our critical path for adoption | 20:17 |
| harlowja | sure, i've started some of them, but not alot | 20:17 |
| adrian_otto | without that, we will carry the burden of doing all the implementations, rather than empowering the other projects to leverage what's there | 20:17 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:17 |
| harlowja | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Examples to start | 20:17 |
| harlowja | but ya, it needs more | 20:18 |
| kebray | I believe Angus may have volunteered to start some as well. | 20:18 |
| harlowja | #action harlowja make some more examples | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/blob/master/docs/examples/reverting_linear.py | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | 2 hours ago | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/commit/6c40c56c5bd25056a396683219b548c5af0dac0c [https://github.com/harlowja] | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/blob/master/docs/examples/simple_linear.py | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | 2 hours ago | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/commit/6c40c56c5bd25056a396683219b548c5af0dac0c [https://github.com/harlowja] | 20:18 |
| harlowja | if everyone adds 1 example, that would be lots of examples ;) | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/blob/master/docs/examples/simple_linear_listening.py | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | 2 hours ago | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/commit/6c40c56c5bd25056a396683219b548c5af0dac0c [https://github.com/harlowja] | 20:18 |
| kebray | I don't want to commit him to any actions… but, will be great if he chips in. | 20:18 |
| adrian_otto | is Angus present now? | 20:18 |
| kebray | doubtful.. it's early am for him. | 20:19 |
| harlowja | so i'll try to keep on adding more examples | 20:19 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, who;s best to follow up with him to politely request one? | 20:20 |
| kebray | He volunteered last night on the Heat channel IIRC. | 20:20 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's take an action to follow up next week then | 20:20 |
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| harlowja | i can ping him later to see if he has had any luck, but maybe wait a day or 2? | 20:20 |
| adrian_otto | so ithe offer does not go stale | 20:20 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:20 |
| kebray | agreed on the wait a day or two. | 20:20 |
| harlowja | is the location of those examples fine, or should we place elsewhere?? | 20:21 |
| harlowja | potentially someday we could have a readthedocs.org site or somethign | 20:21 |
| kebray | I think they belong in github personally, as part of the in-repo documentation. | 20:22 |
| harlowja | k | 20:22 |
| kebray | We can link the wiki to the appropriate file on github. | 20:22 |
| harlowja | works for me | 20:23 |
| adrian_otto | I will volunteer to dress up the example section on the TaskFlow wiki page to describe each example in more detail (catalog style) | 20:23 |
| harlowja | nice! | 20:23 |
| harlowja | thx adrian_otto | 20:24 |
| harlowja | #action adrian_otto dress up examples on taskflow wiki | 20:24 |
| adrian_otto | yep | 20:24 |
| harlowja | cool | 20:24 |
| harlowja | alright, next big topic that i have | 20:24 |
| harlowja | #topic release | 20:24 |
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| harlowja | soooo | 20:24 |
| harlowja | am thinking when we can have or should we have some type of taskflow alpha release | 20:25 |
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| harlowja | so that the basic usage by cinder could possible go through | 20:25 |
| harlowja | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29862/ | 20:25 |
| harlowja | and what do we want to recommend to be in that release (and when) | 20:26 |
| harlowja | or do we want to wait... | 20:26 |
| harlowja | and how do we want to release if we do | 20:26 |
| kebray | harlowja: interested in your thoughts first… as, you're implementing the Cinder one :-) | 20:27 |
| adrian_otto | what's up with the −1 from Duncan Thomas? | 20:27 |
| harlowja | sure, that refactoring was more of restructuring into tasks, simple linear flow, with a memory backend, now if we had a simple db backend working, then we could say have a release with just that, and keep the rest as a WIP, orrr, we can do the copy/paste path and just move the needed/used taskflow modules into cinder | 20:29 |
| harlowja | or release to pypi in a little with the other flows, but let others know that those aren't done yet | 20:30 |
| jlucci | I'm sort of leaning towards the pypi release | 20:30 |
| harlowja | adrian_otto i think the duncan thing was just a logic chang that he found | 20:30 |
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| harlowja | so jlucci i guess if we lean toward the pypi release, that requires that we have things mostly working, and the defintion of mostly :-P | 20:31 |
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| ehudtr | Regarding the cinder refactoring - how do you plan to address "Eventual addition of resumption logic to recover from operations stopped halfway through." | 20:31 |
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| jlucci | Yeah, I'm working on fixing up distributed to "fully functional" right now | 20:32 |
| harlowja | ehudtr so that requires a 'transcation log' concept, which we have accounted for in taskflow (in a few different ways) | 20:32 |
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| harlowja | so once u have a "transcation log" u can know what to resume from and where | 20:33 |
| harlowja | jlucci kebray kchenweijie do u guys think like another week we can have things mostly working? its ok if we strip some not so working things out for the release | 20:33 |
| ehudtr | Don't you want the tasks to be idempotent | 20:33 |
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| harlowja | just if it goes on pypi people will be like thats broke and file a bug | 20:34 |
| jlucci | I'd say yes for things on my end | 20:34 |
| kchenweijie | i can say yes for what im working on | 20:34 |
| harlowja | k | 20:34 |
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| harlowja | we can talk about anything that we might need to strip out if we need to | 20:34 |
| harlowja | *graph_flow* cough | 20:34 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:34 |
| harlowja | nobody is using it right now anyway (and this parallel stuff removes the need for it) | 20:34 |
| jlucci | hehe | 20:35 |
| harlowja | ehudtr so in an ideal world everything is idempotent, but i don't think that ideal world exists so much :-/ | 20:35 |
| kchenweijie | harlowja: i can agree with that. its not cooperating with me right now... | 20:35 |
| harlowja | kchenweijie u broke python though, ha | 20:35 |
| kebray | Should we align with H2 release? Or is July 18 too far in the future? | 20:35 |
| ehudtr | if you are only logging then you may do the task twice | 20:36 |
| harlowja | ehudtr sure, there are cases where idemptoent does work, just it becomes a real pain in a stateful system, ideally such a stateful system wouldn't exist, but it seems to | 20:36 |
| harlowja | kebray i wouldn't mind trying to align with H2 | 20:37 |
| harlowja | and seeing what happens | 20:37 |
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| harlowja | which does bring up a good question | 20:37 |
| harlowja | i'll be in NY july12->20th | 20:37 |
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| harlowja | but jlucci will have it all covered ;) | 20:38 |
| kebray | ehudtr: if a task is, let's say, a POST api call to another service (I'm speaking generically, not Cinder specific), then the task can't be idempotent me thinks. | 20:38 |
| jlucci | Totally. I'll just leave everything on fire till you get back | 20:38 |
| kebray | Maybe we should shoot for July 11 :-) | 20:39 |
| ehudtr | all the chain needs to be idempotent | 20:39 |
| harlowja | so does it seem fine to try to see what we can get done by next thur meeting, and then access from there for a release? | 20:39 |
| harlowja | *or july11 | 20:39 |
| jlucci | +1 | 20:39 |
| harlowja | *assess not access, lol | 20:39 |
| harlowja | sp suxage ;) | 20:39 |
| jlucci | I'd see what we can get done by next meeting, then decide from there a release date | 20:39 |
| harlowja | k | 20:39 |
| harlowja | +1 | 20:39 |
| kebray | works for me. | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | ehudtr so it'd be nice to have all chains idempotent, but i think thats outside taskflows control | 20:40 |
| harlowja | so we need to at least provide a mechanism for when they aren't | 20:40 |
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| adrian_otto | idempotency is a pipe dream without redoing basically *all* of OpenStack to coonfirm to taht design principle | 20:40 |
| kebray | Yeah.. we can't enforce idempotency in the TaskFlow library I don't think… because, the user of the library creates the tasks… so, no guarantee they'll be idempotent. | 20:40 |
| adrian_otto | we can't reasonably expect that at this stage | 20:41 |
| kebray | yeah, what adrian_otto said. | 20:41 |
| harlowja | agreed, it'd be really nice and would make stuff easier, but in the meantime something like a transcation log helps | 20:41 |
| kebray | ehudtr… curious if maybe I don't understand your use case though… would like to know more if we can help. | 20:41 |
| harlowja | not just for resuming, but for analysis of whats going on... | 20:41 |
| adrian_otto | the best we can hope for is a place to put rollback code, and execute it upon failure | 20:41 |
| harlowja | adrian_otto agreed | 20:42 |
| adrian_otto | I don't want to suggest that idempotent systems are impossible, but I think that's really got to be out of scope for this effort. | 20:42 |
| harlowja | ehudtr the other thought here is that a developer using taskflow can potentially provide there own "resumption" strategy, and if u don't provide one, then thats fine, but u'll have to make your tasks and downstream services be idempotent (which is actually really hard) | 20:43 |
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| adrian_otto | you can do coarse grained resumes as well | 20:43 |
| adrian_otto | they are less efficient, but you basically roll back to the last checkpoint, and proceed again fram there | 20:44 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:44 |
| adrian_otto | and you leave it up to the calling code where to define checkpoints | 20:44 |
| adrian_otto | otherwise it's task by task | 20:44 |
| ehudtr | OK | 20:44 |
| harlowja | ya, its tough to enforce any which way :) | 20:45 |
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| harlowja | ok, so onto next topic stuf | 20:45 |
| harlowja | actually more of open topics i guess | 20:45 |
| harlowja | *since not super important* | 20:45 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:45 |
| harlowja | #topic open-dicuss | 20:45 |
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| harlowja | so any feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34488/ would be cool, its a similar flow as jlucci distributed one, but runs locally instead | 20:46 |
| harlowja | it has similar problems, but would likely be a solution for heat (instead of heats coroutines) | 20:47 |
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| harlowja | right now it will run a 'thread' per task in the job, which might need reworking (but might be ok with greenthreads) | 20:47 |
| harlowja | that can be adjusted if we feel neccasary with a different way of running the flow | 20:47 |
| adrian_otto | that's actually what Zane has implemented in his scheduler.py stuff in Heat with the coroutines | 20:48 |
| adrian_otto | so it would be wise to collect his input | 20:48 |
| kebray | harlowja I still haven't looked at it in detail, but conceptually I'm fine with it… my main goal is to get the interface correct such that we use the 34488 approach to gain adoption into Heat, but swap out the backend as needed. | 20:48 |
| harlowja | 34488?? | 20:48 |
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| kebray | short hand for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34488/ | 20:49 |
| harlowja | ah | 20:49 |
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| harlowja | thx :) | 20:49 |
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| harlowja | ya, the interface is nearly matching the other flows, but not 100% yet | 20:49 |
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| harlowja | pretty close though | 20:49 |
| kebray | because, to run this at service provider scale, I'm placing my bets on the work jlucci is doing. So, we need to plug that into TaskFlow as "our" back-end to running Heat Tasks. | 20:49 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:50 |
| adrian_otto | +1 | 20:50 |
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| harlowja | although i could imagine something like nova just wanting to use the parallel flow, since the conductor + mq 'concept' is pretty similar to celery (in a way) | 20:51 |
| harlowja | so if they switch to parallel flow, with tasks being ran, then eventually they just switch to celery | 20:51 |
| harlowja | and *magic* | 20:51 |
| kebray | If your implementation runs at scale, that's cool too :-) jlucci will still give us the added ability to modify the graph on the fly while a workflow is executing. speaking of which, I need to think up some real world use cases for harlowja on that. | 20:51 |
| harlowja | #action kebray real-world cases for modification on the fly | 20:52 |
| kebray | thx | 20:52 |
| harlowja | i agree, just thinking that existing openstack projects form there own 'celery' in a manner, so we should make sure without refactoring all of those projects that they can still take advantage of some of the benefits | 20:52 |
| harlowja | and slowly refactor them toward this model (as that model proves itself) | 20:53 |
| harlowja | *then profit* | 20:53 |
| adrian_otto | which of those are we aware of? | 20:53 |
| adrian_otto | It would be nice to actually put together a roster of those | 20:53 |
| harlowja | the openstack projects? | 20:53 |
| adrian_otto | the "Own Celery" implementations in various projects | 20:53 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like to speak about thaem in less abstract terms | 20:53 |
| harlowja | ah, well that gets into the gray area of when does a project seem to be creating its own celery :) | 20:54 |
| harlowja | but ya, maybe we could form something (?? how to avoid it being controversial??) | 20:54 |
| adrian_otto | I'm suggesting that we produce a list of known task implementations | 20:54 |
| adrian_otto | and provide some informed guidance about which of those are a good fit for Taskflow | 20:55 |
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| harlowja | sure, that seems reasonable | 20:55 |
| adrian_otto | or ask around for some | 20:55 |
| harlowja | sure, some of them are still being formed as we speak i think | 20:55 |
| adrian_otto | since we really care about boosting the quality of OpenStack and making it easier for various projects to benefit from a shared collaborative solution | 20:56 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so let's find some way to describe them | 20:56 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:56 |
| adrian_otto | even if they are wip | 20:56 |
| kebray | Maybe we can collaborate on this.. for example, I can probably get one of the trove devs to write up something tiny on their task execution within Trove. | 20:56 |
| kebray | And at least provide a link to the code where it's implemented within Trove. | 20:56 |
| harlowja | sure, i can try in the nova meeting to see if anyone there wants to, maybe john garbutt? | 20:56 |
| harlowja | since he's been doing that WIP | 20:57 |
| harlowja | heat we already seem to know about | 20:57 |
| adrian_otto | this exercise can help make it really clear where this can fit, and why it needs to be community property in OpenStack | 20:57 |
| harlowja | sure | 20:57 |
| kebray | Yeah, the longer the list, the more repetitive the code, the more the need for common code. | 20:57 |
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| harlowja | +1 | 20:57 |
| adrian_otto | exactly. | 20:58 |
| harlowja | i did start https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StructuredWorkflows a while ago, but its pretty low level, not at the high level that i think u guys are thinking of | 20:58 |
| adrian_otto | it may be a little early to put too much energy into this, but we can build it opportunistically | 20:58 |
| harlowja | #action harlowja see if i can work with the nova folks to get some kind of requirements or list of task like stuff there | 20:58 |
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| harlowja | sure, depends on how busy people are and all that | 20:59 |
| harlowja | i can write up some stuff on nova (from what i know) but it will probably be biased and may not be what those folks believe is correct | 20:59 |
| harlowja | alright, next time lets see what we have figured out | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | out of time | 21:00 |
| harlowja | #end-meeting | 21:00 |
| kebray | #action kebray to see if someone from Trove can provide a high level sentence or two (and link to code) on their task execution code, desires around a common library, etc. | 21:00 |
| kebray | dang it. | 21:00 |
| kebray | just missed. | 21:00 |
| harlowja | oops, u still in | 21:00 |
| harlowja | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 21:00:23 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/state_management/2013/state_management.2013-06-27-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/state_management/2013/state_management.2013-06-27-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/state_management/2013/state_management.2013-06-27-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| kebray | :-) | 21:00 |
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| harlowja | ya, my bad typing, ha | 21:00 |
| russellb | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 27 21:01:07 2013 UTC. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| russellb | Hello! | 21:01 |
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| russellb | who's around to talk about nova? | 21:01 |
| mriedem | hello | 21:01 |
| devananda | \o | 21:01 |
| cyeoh | russellb: hi | 21:01 |
| alaski | ji | 21:01 |
| dansmith | me | 21:01 |
| alaski | hi | 21:01 |
| harlowja | yo, quickly brb, but i'll be there | 21:01 |
| bpb | me | 21:01 |
| bnemec | o/ | 21:01 |
| mrodden | me | 21:01 |
| russellb | welcome all | 21:01 |
| hartsocks | \o | 21:01 |
| russellb | #topic blueprints | 21:01 |
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| russellb | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-2 | 21:02 |
| russellb | havana-2 is set to be released in 3 weeks | 21:02 |
| russellb | which means the merge deadline is about 2.5 weeks away | 21:02 |
| russellb | i started moving blueprints to havana-3, starting with ones still marked as "Not Started" | 21:02 |
| russellb | we still have 74 :-) | 21:02 |
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| russellb | so, let's spend some time going through some of them and talk about their status | 21:03 |
| russellb | cyeoh: hi! we've got lots of v3 api blueprints. i believe we were originally targeting to finish it by havana-2 | 21:03 |
| russellb | cyeoh: how is it looking? | 21:03 |
| cyeoh | well not too bad, I don't think that all will get merged by H2 | 21:03 |
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| cyeoh | but certainly most will be in review | 21:04 |
| russellb | ok. so if it'll all be in review, then feel very confident about havana-3 at least? | 21:04 |
| cyeoh | I think we have probably around 60 or so changesets in the review queue at the moment? I haven't had a close look today | 21:04 |
| russellb | wow | 21:04 |
| cyeoh | yea, that was my main reason for setting a fairly aggressive H2 goal - to make sure we make H3 | 21:04 |
| russellb | #help biggest hold-up on v3 api blueprints' progress is getting reviews. close to 60 in the queue | 21:04 |
| russellb | at least most of the conversions are pretty easy to review IMO | 21:05 |
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| cyeoh | the things at the end that are more uncertain are the increased tempest testing and documentation | 21:05 |
| cyeoh | but we had that discussion around xml/json - and it will be a matter of prioritising what is most important | 21:05 |
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| russellb | so, how about novaclient support? | 21:05 |
| russellb | is that on the radar at all? | 21:05 |
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| cyeoh | we don't really have anyone explicitly assigned for novaclient work. | 21:06 |
| cyeoh | Will need to see how things look post H2 | 21:06 |
| russellb | #action need to create a v3 api novaclient blueprint and find someone to work on it | 21:06 |
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| russellb | as for docs, primarily the api docs part right? | 21:07 |
| cyeoh | yes, and smaller things like guides on how to write a v3 extension | 21:07 |
| russellb | hopefully much of the api part can be autogenerated like we do for v2, but it will be some work | 21:07 |
| russellb | at least it could be worked on late if needed | 21:08 |
| cyeoh | yes, have to sort out exactly what we need and the changesets will be big if anything like v2 | 21:08 |
| russellb | so biggest thing you need is reviews? | 21:08 |
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| russellb | anything else? | 21:08 |
| cyeoh | is this an ok time to bring up the status of nova-network? It does sort of impact exactly what needs to be ported for v3 | 21:08 |
| cyeoh | (yes reviews is the biggest thing) | 21:08 |
| russellb | vishy: you around? | 21:08 |
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| russellb | vishy has the "deprecate-nova-network" blueprint | 21:08 |
| vishy | yeah | 21:08 |
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| vishy | multitasking | 21:09 |
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| vishy | so there hasn't been much progress so far | 21:09 |
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| russellb | afaik, not a ton of progress there, so it's a little up in the air ... | 21:10 |
| russellb | i'm still of the opinion that we should assume quantum for v3 | 21:10 |
| russellb | v2 isn't going away yet | 21:10 |
| russellb | and hopefully we can kill it when we kill nova-network | 21:10 |
| russellb | happy to hear other opinions if someone wants to argue otherwise ... | 21:10 |
| russellb | sorry, had a network blip | 21:10 |
| cyeoh | it looks like there are some extensions around which don't support quantum and only nova-network. If we don't have nova-network in Havana then do they need to be ported? | 21:10 |
| vishy | russellb: +1 | 21:10 |
| russellb | vishy: ok cool | 21:10 |
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| vishy | i would leave all the network stuff out of v3 | 21:10 |
| cyeoh | ok thanks | 21:10 |
| russellb | ok great | 21:10 |
| russellb | cyeoh: anything else? | 21:10 |
| bpb | I have a status update on the Cinder volume encryption blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/encrypt-cinder-volumes | 21:10 |
| bpb | We (APL) are currently working with Cinder folks to store encryption metadata (e.g., an encryption key id) with the volume | 21:11 |
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| bpb | This is needed to support special Cinder features | 21:11 |
| cyeoh | russellb: just that re: the proposed in/out of core - anything without a -1 (which I think is everything now) we're just going ahead with | 21:11 |
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| bpb | We expect to submit an updated version of our code next week, but it will be tight for getting it accepted into Havana-2 | 21:11 |
| cyeoh | other than that nothing else | 21:11 |
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| russellb | cyeoh: ok, i'd like to review each of those if i can, so tag me on the reviews | 21:11 |
| russellb | bpb: ok, cool. sounds like good progress, though! | 21:11 |
| cyeoh | russellb: ok | 21:12 |
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| russellb | bpb: should we leave it on the havana-2 list, or go ahead and bump it? | 21:12 |
| russellb | bpb: well just let me know | 21:13 |
| russellb | comstud: you around? | 21:13 |
| russellb | comstud: you have a high prio blueprint on havana-2 for the native mysql db driver | 21:13 |
| comstud | i am | 21:13 |
| bpb | Russel: We're still shooting for Havana-2 - sorry for the spamming | 21:13 |
| russellb | comstud: that going to show up? or should we bump it? | 21:13 |
| russellb | bpb: cool, sounds good, thanks! | 21:13 |
| comstud | well | 21:14 |
| russellb | bpb: i'm afraid a batch of stuff will get bumped because of review bandwidth in the last days ... so we'll see | 21:14 |
| comstud | no, it's not going to make 2 i guess | 21:14 |
| russellb | ok | 21:14 |
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| russellb | still havana-3? | 21:14 |
| comstud | yeah, i'll make it happen. | 21:14 |
| russellb | ok cool | 21:15 |
| russellb | dansmith: you have a ton of objects patches coming through, want to give an update? | 21:15 |
| comstud | i wanted objects to be stablized a bit before doing the work | 21:15 |
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| russellb | even though it's not targeted at havana-2 | 21:15 |
| comstud | well, committing the work... | 21:15 |
| dansmith | russellb: yeah | 21:15 |
| russellb | comstud: makes sense | 21:15 |
| dansmith | russellb: I was actually going to say, I'm pretty sure "objectify all the things" isn't going to make all of H anyway, | 21:15 |
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| comstud | but to satisfy some people, I probably should also prove sqlalchemy is a huge problem. | 21:16 |
| comstud | heh. | 21:16 |
| comstud | (more than I already have) | 21:16 |
| dansmith | so maybe we should cut up some smaller sub-blueprints to go underneath the main one | 21:16 |
| russellb | dansmith: yeah, or rescope the main one you have now to what you think is achievable for havana | 21:16 |
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| dansmith | "make all of H" ? "make H" | 21:16 |
| russellb | and then we can have icehouse-objectification or whatever | 21:16 |
| dansmith | russellb: sure, I can do that | 21:16 |
| russellb | ok cool, sounds good to me | 21:16 |
| dansmith | russellb: I'd like to try to get something small targeted for H2, | 21:17 |
| dansmith | to show progress, | 21:17 |
| dansmith | but I'm not sure what that would be right now | 21:17 |
| russellb | dansmith: ok, feel free to create a blueprint if you can think of something | 21:17 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:17 |
| comstud | gosh i really hope I can step up my game here soon wrt objects | 21:17 |
| russellb | convert instance or something? | 21:17 |
| dansmith | comstud: me too, sheesh man! :P | 21:17 |
| comstud | i know, right? | 21:17 |
| dansmith | russellb: nah, that's too big I think | 21:17 |
| russellb | dansmith: k | 21:17 |
| russellb | well, just let me know what you come up with :) | 21:17 |
| dansmith | russellb: "nova-api uses objects" maybe | 21:17 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:17 |
| russellb | but i like the idea of having something in havana-2 | 21:18 |
| dansmith | comstud: just kidding <3 | 21:18 |
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| russellb | comstud: he's not kidding | 21:18 |
| comstud | i know | 21:18 |
| comstud | i'm not | 21:18 |
| comstud | :) | 21:18 |
| comstud | hehe | 21:18 |
| dansmith | haha, nah, I am, I promise | 21:18 |
| russellb | ok, on to something else | 21:18 |
| russellb | we've got a ton | 21:18 |
| russellb | alaski: hey, you've got a high prio one | 21:18 |
| russellb | making scheduler queried instead of a proxy service | 21:18 |
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| alaski | There's one review up for a new scheduler call | 21:19 |
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| alaski | Working on making conductor use it now. | 21:19 |
| alaski | But all the work should be under review soon | 21:19 |
| russellb | nice | 21:19 |
| russellb | sounds good then! | 21:19 |
| russellb | need anything? | 21:20 |
| russellb | (other than review on what you have up..) | 21:20 |
| comstud | money | 21:20 |
| russellb | i'd take money too | 21:20 |
| alaski | same as everyone else, reviews | 21:20 |
| russellb | yeah, i feel like we're behind on reviews | 21:20 |
| russellb | sort of a different topic though ... maybe we can come back to it | 21:20 |
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| russellb | timello: hey, i saw you join | 21:21 |
| russellb | timello: how about your cold migrations to conductor refactor? | 21:21 |
| * johnthetubaguy waves | 21:21 | |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: hi! | 21:21 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: and your live migrations to conductor refactor? | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | in a related front, live-migrate has got some stuff in, other bits are in reviews, little bits not done yet | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | main sorry is the orchestration with the TaskFlow lib, can't see that getting in too soon | 21:22 |
| russellb | i wasn't considering that part of this personally | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its probably next time sadly | 21:22 |
| russellb | could reconsider it in the Icehouse release | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was hoping to get tasks that detected the service got restarted, but yes, that should be I now | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | its looking more like H-3 I guess | 21:23 |
| russellb | still havana-2 achievable? | 21:23 |
| russellb | ok, i can move it | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, its damm close at least | 21:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | leaving H-2 for now may help the reviews :P | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is stuff to review now at least, and bits to finish off | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, was wondering about the cold migration | 21:24 |
| russellb | yeah, pinged timello | 21:24 |
| russellb | timello: speak up if you're back and we can come back to cold migrations | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 21:24 |
| russellb | anyone else have a blueprint you'd like to give an update on? | 21:25 |
| russellb | or one you'd like to ask about? | 21:25 |
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| russellb | in general, please help me out by making sure your blueprint status is accurate | 21:25 |
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| mrodden | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/user-locale-api is "pretty much done" | 21:25 |
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| mrodden | just waiting on reviews and a change to merge in Oslo | 21:25 |
| harlowja | johnthetubaguy let me know about how i can help make sure taskflow helps u :) | 21:25 |
| russellb | mrodden: cool, so need review ... | 21:25 |
| harlowja | at your service ;) | 21:25 |
| russellb | looks like we have it marked properly | 21:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | harlowja: will do, just looking like I now | 21:26 |
| russellb | and hopefully we can get it reviewed.. | 21:26 |
| mrodden | yea. if it gets bumped to H3 if we don't have enough review bandwidth | 21:26 |
| mrodden | could we bump the priority up in that case? | 21:26 |
| harlowja | johnthetubaguy agreed | 21:26 |
| russellb | mrodden: yeah, that happened in G, right? that's fine | 21:26 |
| mrodden | yep | 21:27 |
| russellb | mrodden: you'll have to remind me | 21:27 |
| mrodden | np, i have people reminding me daily... | 21:27 |
| mrodden | :) | 21:27 |
| russellb | heh | 21:27 |
| russellb | anyone else? | 21:27 |
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| russellb | alright, next topic | 21:28 |
| russellb | #topic bugs | 21:28 |
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| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage | 21:28 |
| russellb | we have about 60 new nova bugs, and 47 novaclient bugs | 21:28 |
| russellb | we really need someone to take on triage of novaclient, kind of like we have owners for tags | 21:29 |
| comstud | dan and I filed a lot of bugs for work that needs to happen for objects | 21:29 |
| russellb | anyone willing? | 21:29 |
| comstud | not sure how many we left 'new' | 21:29 |
| comstud | (fyi) | 21:29 |
| russellb | comstud: cool, have a tag for them? | 21:29 |
| comstud | yes | 21:29 |
| russellb | comstud: objects? | 21:29 |
| comstud | unified-objects | 21:29 |
| russellb | k | 21:29 |
| russellb | so, i also noticed that my filter i've been using for untagged bugs is silly | 21:29 |
| russellb | it misses stuff if someone added their own tags | 21:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | doh | 21:30 |
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| russellb | like grizzly-backport-potential, or whatever random tags they come up with | 21:30 |
| dansmith | russellb: yeah, do you know how to get that tag to show up in the list on the right? | 21:30 |
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| russellb | so some cleanup to do ... | 21:30 |
| russellb | dansmith: i do, i have to make it an official tag | 21:30 |
| dansmith | oh, pretty please? | 21:30 |
| russellb | dansmith: ping me later and i can | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | okay | 21:30 |
| russellb | so, in addition to really needing someone to own novaclient | 21:30 |
| russellb | network could use some work ... 17 network untriaged bugs | 21:30 |
| russellb | arosen: ^^^ | 21:30 |
| alaski | russellb: I'll help with novaclient bugs | 21:31 |
| russellb | s/work/help/ | 21:31 |
| russellb | alaski: awesome!!! much appreciated, it's something we've long neglected | 21:31 |
| russellb | alaski: can you update the wiki page? | 21:31 |
| alaski | sure | 21:31 |
| russellb | cool. | 21:31 |
| russellb | another is libvirt, 9 new bugs to triage there | 21:31 |
| russellb | api has 6 to triage | 21:31 |
| russellb | cyeoh: ^ | 21:31 |
| russellb | and compute has 5 | 21:32 |
| russellb | melwitt1: ^ | 21:32 |
| russellb | hartsocks: 4 on vmware | 21:32 |
| hartsocks | I see 'em | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we want a bug day post H-2 to try and tidy up a bit? | 21:32 |
| russellb | 4 for volume integration ... nobody has taken that tag yet | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | or should that be, pre H-2, maybe | 21:32 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: not a bad idea ... bug days seem to be helpful ... as long as they're not too often | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 for not too often | 21:33 |
| russellb | we had a really good one, then another the next week and nobody did anything :) | 21:33 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:33 |
| russellb | so we stopped, and then came up with this tagged approach to split up the work | 21:33 |
| russellb | so anyway, triage! | 21:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I remember now | 21:33 |
| russellb | any specific bugs worth talking about? | 21:33 |
| russellb | i found this one while triaging today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1194093 | 21:33 |
| russellb | have a fix for master written i think, just need to add tests | 21:34 |
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| russellb | either i'm totally missing something, or this hasn't worked in ages | 21:34 |
| comstud | guessing the latter | 21:34 |
| alaski | Quick question on triaging: if it's a feature request what's the best way to "close" it? | 21:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, that was the feature no one remembered getting added right | 21:34 |
| russellb | alaski: good question ... typically put it as Confirmed+Wishlist if it seems reasonable | 21:35 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: has been there since the dark ages of 2011 at least | 21:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah | 21:35 |
| russellb | alaski: more detailed notes on that kind of thing on the main BugTriage wiki page | 21:35 |
| alaski | Ok. I've been using Invalid+wishlist, but confirmed is nicer :) | 21:35 |
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| russellb | alaski: yeah ... and then we have a BugTriage task on the main page to go back and close out old wishlist bugs | 21:36 |
| russellb | or, mark them Opinion+Wishlist i think | 21:36 |
| russellb | which is effectively closed | 21:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, that answers my question | 21:36 |
| melwitt1 | yeah, I think we said invalid means like never look at again | 21:36 |
| russellb | Opinion is like ... "maybe" | 21:36 |
| russellb | "it's not you, it's me" | 21:36 |
| russellb | any other bugs? | 21:37 |
| melwitt1 | haha | 21:37 |
| russellb | (i know we have plenty of them, but rather, any that you want to discuss?) | 21:37 |
| russellb | alright, subteam time them | 21:37 |
| russellb | #topic subteams | 21:38 |
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| russellb | hartsocks: sup! | 21:38 |
| hartsocks | yo | 21:38 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:38 |
| hartsocks | So I'll spam y'all again with our reviews on Friday… on the mailing list. Fun right? | 21:38 |
| russellb | fine with me | 21:38 |
| harlowja | \o/ | 21:38 |
| hartsocks | groovy. | 21:39 |
| russellb | so you need reviews :) | 21:39 |
| russellb | need anything else? | 21:39 |
| hartsocks | Some of us need to clean up our acts… after the last reviews :-) | 21:39 |
| russellb | heh | 21:39 |
| hartsocks | We're hashing out some of our BP's and such. H2 is going to be optimistic at the rate we're moving. | 21:39 |
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| russellb | hartsocks: ok. let me know what should be bumped | 21:40 |
| hartsocks | I'll keep beating the drums. | 21:40 |
| russellb | i like drums | 21:40 |
| hartsocks | Our highest priority BP is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multiple-clusters-managed-by-one-service | 21:40 |
| hartsocks | But we're still hashing out how to pull it off. | 21:40 |
| russellb | thought there was a patch up already? | 21:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, we were thinking cells at one point | 21:41 |
| russellb | just still WIP? | 21:41 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: yeah i'm still thinking that long term... | 21:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: gotcha | 21:41 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: still some design work to do there to define a driver layer | 21:41 |
| hartsocks | The review is up. IIRC there's still one point to work out. | 21:42 |
| russellb | hartsocks: ok | 21:42 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: i'm interested in it, but haven't made much progress ... more just looking around and thinking about it some | 21:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: cool, its a tricky one, think comstud mentioned federated cloud stuff too, probably worth trying for both | 21:43 |
| russellb | yeah | 21:43 |
| russellb | so ... may end up a design summit brainstorm session | 21:44 |
| russellb | we'll see | 21:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, yes, lets not get distracted | 21:44 |
| russellb | k :) | 21:44 |
| russellb | hartsocks: anything else? | 21:44 |
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| hartsocks | Nope. | 21:44 |
| russellb | kthx | 21:44 |
| russellb | n0ano: hi! | 21:44 |
| russellb | scheduler! | 21:44 |
| n0ano | hi, not much to say, we had a very quiet week, I just came here to tell everyone nothing to tell :-) | 21:45 |
| russellb | k :) | 21:45 |
| russellb | harlowja: what's up | 21:45 |
| harlowja | hey hey! | 21:45 |
| russellb | devananda: preemptive ping, you're up next | 21:45 |
| harlowja | so mainly just continuing stablizing, and hoping to get 0.1 release out for h2 so that cinder can integrate, keeping in touch with heat folks about back and forth on heat usage | 21:46 |
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| russellb | ok, and sounding like we won't be ready to look at using it soon ... | 21:46 |
| harlowja | thinking it'd be nice to get more nova folks that have some ideas on what or how nova could use it involved | 21:46 |
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| russellb | been busy getting the code into the right places where it could be considered | 21:46 |
| harlowja | agreed | 21:47 |
| harlowja | which is step #1 i think | 21:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | harlowja: hopeing to get some time to help with that | 21:47 |
| harlowja | thx much johnthetubaguy :) | 21:47 |
| harlowja | so thats about it :) | 21:47 |
| russellb | cool | 21:47 |
| russellb | devananda: around? | 21:47 |
| devananda | russellb: hi! | 21:47 |
| russellb | \o/ | 21:47 |
| russellb | how goes ironic / baremetal? | 21:48 |
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| devananda | so, not much to report progress wise. I'll be out next week (EuroPython) and we're probably not going to have anything ready for H3 | 21:48 |
| russellb | until h3? | 21:48 |
| devananda | kind of in that middle-slump period right now :( | 21:48 |
| russellb | or not anything for h3? | 21:48 |
| devananda | not anything for H3 | 21:48 |
| devananda | iow, not until early "I" at this point | 21:48 |
| russellb | ok | 21:48 |
| russellb | so, need to look over these baremetal havana blueprints that were kind of pending what happens with ironic | 21:49 |
| russellb | no rush, but when you have some time, let me know what we should do with them (if you can't update them yourself) | 21:49 |
| devananda | nova baremetal continues to get worked on by a few folks, particularly they have been adding better redhat support | 21:49 |
| russellb | yeah, saw a patch go up today from dprince i think | 21:49 |
| devananda | ack. i'll try to get to the BPs in the next week | 21:49 |
| russellb | cool | 21:49 |
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| russellb | need anything? | 21:50 |
| devananda | not from nova | 21:50 |
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| devananda | i have a ping out to glance folks for some reviews :) | 21:50 |
| russellb | k | 21:50 |
| russellb | is the db team still meeting? | 21:50 |
| devananda | dripton ostensibly took that over, but i haven't heard anything in a bit | 21:50 |
| russellb | ok | 21:50 |
| russellb | he's out this week | 21:50 |
| devananda | if it's not meeting and folks need me to restart it, let me know | 21:50 |
| russellb | boris-42 (and his team) has been doing a bunch | 21:51 |
| russellb | code wise i mean | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | hiii | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | ) | 21:51 |
| devananda | yea! i've been trying (and failing) to keep up with their flood of reviews :) | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | I will write today a big mail | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | in mailing list | 21:51 |
| russellb | boris-42: on status? | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | where I would like to describe not only status=) | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | but also future plans=) | 21:51 |
| russellb | cool | 21:51 |
| russellb | sounds good | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | and not only in nova=) | 21:51 |
| boris-42 | I think that IRC is not good enough for it=) | 21:52 |
| russellb | heh, just be careful not to make plans so big that you can't make progress :) | 21:52 |
| russellb | baby steps! | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | yeah=) I will write our baby steps!=) | 21:52 |
| russellb | cool | 21:52 |
| russellb | and while you're here | 21:52 |
| russellb | PCI passthrough? | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | yeah | 21:52 |
| russellb | working on that? | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | I publish yesterday | 21:52 |
| russellb | oh, cool | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | bunch of botch+) | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | didn't sllep for 2 days=) | 21:52 |
| boris-42 | to get all work + meeting + this stuff=) | 21:53 |
| russellb | hardcore | 21:53 |
| boris-42 | And now I am not able to sleep | 21:53 |
| boris-42 | and I drink already a lot of alcohol but it seems doesn't help=) | 21:53 |
| devananda | lol | 21:53 |
| boris-42 | to fat=) | 21:53 |
| boris-42 | for alchol=) | 21:53 |
| russellb | yeah ummm | 21:54 |
| russellb | hope you're able to sleep soon then :) | 21:54 |
| boris-42 | =) | 21:54 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 21:54 |
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| russellb | so one thing that was mentioned a bunch was needing reviews | 21:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, xenapi: no update really anyways | 21:54 |
| boris-42 | I hope we will have enough time in Havana to provide UC and DB Archiving in Cinder and Glance* | 21:54 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: sorry! | 21:55 |
| russellb | i came up with these stats to help determine if we were keeping up: http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-openreviews.txt | 21:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: no worries, its quite quiet, I got a few bits in | 21:55 |
| russellb | and have a goal of having average of < 4 days | 21:55 |
| russellb | according to the stats, we're "keeping up" | 21:55 |
| boris-42 | nice | 21:55 |
| russellb | but, 296 open | 21:55 |
| boris-42 | lol=) | 21:55 |
| boris-42 | I have about 7=) | 21:55 |
| russellb | some probably keep getting rebased and stuff, and that resets the counter | 21:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we track anything from the last non-WIP or draft to merge? | 21:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | I get lots of forced rebases, which might make it look like I was waiting less? | 21:56 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: the numbers are the wait time on the current patch rev | 21:56 |
| russellb | update it, restarts the counter | 21:56 |
| russellb | right. | 21:56 |
| boris-42 | by the way Russell | 21:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just wonder if its worth checking the other one too? | 21:56 |
| russellb | so ... not sure how to account for that | 21:56 |
| boris-42 | test-db-api is almost finish! | 21:56 |
| russellb | boris-42: awesome! | 21:56 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: from the last non-WIP/draft to now? | 21:57 |
| boris-42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/db-api-tests,n,z | 21:57 |
| boris-42 | ^ 3 patches on review | 21:57 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: yeah, might be an interesting alternative stat to have to see how it differs | 21:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: yeah, that might be worth tracking, see if it means anything | 21:57 |
| boris-42 | there should be I think 1 or 2 more pathces | 21:57 |
| boris-42 | And we will finish this BP | 21:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: thinking thinking about my patch that took over a month | 21:57 |
| russellb | but ... happy to hear any ideas people have on improvements in this area | 21:57 |
| boris-42 | it was really hard=) | 21:57 |
| russellb | boris-42: yeah, has been a lot of patches | 21:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: it looks good though | 21:58 |
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| mriedem | is there any way to query on the LOC in a review? | 21:58 |
| mriedem | i.e. if it's small, maybe quick to review but you don't know from the message... | 21:58 |
| boris-42 | =) | 21:58 |
| russellb | btw, how come the patch waiting the longest is mine? | 21:58 |
| russellb | harsh guys | 21:58 |
| boris-42 | small doesn't mean simple | 21:58 |
| * hartsocks nods | 21:58 | |
| mriedem | no, but trying to think of 'low-hanging-fruit' reviews | 21:58 |
| russellb | mriedem: not that i know of | 21:58 |
| mriedem | i.e. i had a docstring fix that sat for a week | 21:59 |
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| boris-42 | I think that all patches should be reviewed | 21:59 |
| mriedem | not that i care about it getting merged, but it's an easy one and getting it merged would get it off the list | 21:59 |
| boris-42 | in the same priority | 21:59 |
| jog0 | mriedem: the only way I know of is bring it to #openstack-nova and ask and hope | 21:59 |
| russellb | mriedem: though i generally don't want to give weight to low hanging fruit | 21:59 |
| russellb | mriedem: that results in harder stuff never getting attention | 21:59 |
| boris-42 | no.. i think that LOC shouldn't be priority | 21:59 |
| boris-42 | =) | 21:59 |
| russellb | boris-42: agreed, ideally | 21:59 |
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| mriedem | agree, was just thinking about metrics, not pushing to spend time on easy stuff... | 22:00 |
| russellb | sort of depends on the reviewer too though | 22:00 |
| mrodden | does a +1 or 0 score reset the timer at all? | 22:00 |
| boris-42 | I think yes | 22:00 |
| mrodden | or just last upload/ -1 | 22:00 |
| russellb | mrodden: no | 22:00 |
| boris-42 | oO | 22:00 |
| russellb | last upload or -1 | 22:00 |
| mrodden | ok. makes sense | 22:00 |
| * johnthetubaguy looks at watch | 22:00 | |
| russellb | (actually, it's when jenkins gives its check report, not upload, because stupidly upload time isn't available) | 22:00 |
| russellb | so jenkins is the next best timestamp :( | 22:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | doh | 22:01 |
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| bnemec | russellb: You have a question from sdague on that review that should probably be answered. ;-) | 22:01 |
| mrodden | accurate enough... most people wait for jenkins anyways | 22:01 |
| russellb | bnemec: ha | 22:01 |
| bnemec | Probably explains the long wait. | 22:01 |
| russellb | right. | 22:01 |
| russellb | oops. | 22:01 |
| hartsocks | I was considering carving time to help with reviews. From how metrics work, sounds like I should only −1 things if I want to help? (I'm not core) | 22:02 |
| russellb | hartsocks: +1 is helpful too | 22:02 |
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| boris-42 | dansmith ping | 22:02 |
| jog0 | hartsocks: definitly | 22:02 |
| russellb | because as you build up trust with the team, others don't have to spend as much time revieweing after they see your +1 | 22:02 |
| jog0 | (to +1) | 22:02 |
| hartsocks | okay | 22:03 |
| russellb | that's effectively the patch to nova-core | 22:03 |
| russellb | path* | 22:03 |
| hartsocks | I'll patch the path. | 22:03 |
| russellb | sweet | 22:03 |
| mriedem | russellb: maybe another way of phrasing my thoughts on the review metrics, say there is 'low-hanging-fruit' reviews that have been +1'ed by a few people, they just need some eyes from cores, but i don't want to bug people, | 22:03 |
| russellb | but i definitely pay attention to +1/-1 from *everyone* | 22:03 |
| dansmith | boris-42: is it something for the meeting? else, we should talk in -nova I think | 22:03 |
| russellb | and consider them differently depending on who it is | 22:03 |
| mriedem | or does that go back to not wanting to spend time on those types of reviews? | 22:03 |
| boris-42 | dansmith yes about unified models | 22:04 |
| boris-42 | and PCI Passthrough | 22:04 |
| boris-42 | russellb ^ | 22:04 |
| dansmith | boris-42: okay | 22:04 |
| boris-42 | I would like to finish it=) | 22:04 |
| russellb | mriedem: in those cases, people ping in #openstack-nova a lot ... and that's fine | 22:04 |
| boris-42 | so probably could we merge it as is now? and then I will move to unified models | 22:04 |
| mriedem | russellb: ok, i wasn't sure, didn't want to get a reputation for asking cores to look at stuff like that in -nova | 22:04 |
| boris-42 | because there is a two others group that would like to improve my current soultion | 22:04 |
| mriedem | if it was a bad thing | 22:05 |
| boris-42 | and they are blocked=) | 22:05 |
| russellb | yeah, i mean, honestly it does bug me sometimes | 22:05 |
| russellb | if it's a ping to me directly | 22:05 |
| boris-42 | dansmith ^ | 22:05 |
| russellb | but maybe it's just because i get them constantly | 22:05 |
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| mriedem | i'll bug dansmith :) | 22:05 |
| dansmith | boris-42: well, I didn't -2 it, but I was just saying it would be nice to avoid adding new conductor methods just to remove them again soon | 22:05 |
| russellb | but just a general comment in nova not directed at me isn't as annoying :) | 22:05 |
| mriedem | ha, ok | 22:05 |
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| dansmith | russellb: it's cool, I can smack him around behind the firewall :) | 22:05 |
| russellb | dansmith: nice | 22:06 |
| russellb | alright, well, we're a bit over time | 22:06 |
| russellb | lots of good discussion today | 22:06 |
| boris-42 | russellb dansmith so I should move to unified models? | 22:06 |
| russellb | thanks a lot everyone for coming! | 22:06 |
| russellb | we can keep chatting in #Openstack-nova | 22:06 |
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| russellb | boris-42: let's chat over in -nova | 22:06 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 22:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:06 | |
| boris-42 | thanks russell=) | 22:06 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 22:06:34 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-06-27-21.01.html | 22:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-06-27-21.01.txt | 22:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-06-27-21.01.log.html | 22:06 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: g'night, thanks for coming! | 22:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | russellb: no prob, was good conversations | 22:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol typing ability has gone! | 22:08 |
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