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NobodyCam#startmeeting ironic19:00
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NobodyCamwelcome to the ironic meeting19:00
romchegGreetings folks!19:00
NobodyCamwho's here19:00
NobodyCamhey GheRivero romcheg19:01
yuriyzgood day all19:01
dkehndkehn, :)19:01
NobodyCamhey hey look new faces19:01
NobodyCamwelcome lucasagomes yuriyz an dkehn19:01
dkehnI'm always lurking, this is the start of my 3 hours of mettings on monday19:02
NobodyCamok lets get started19:02
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NobodyCam#topic testing env19:02
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NobodyCamfirstup devstack19:02
NobodyCamlooks like 1 +219:03
romchegWe need another one.19:03
romchegWho is the best person to ping?19:03
romchegI have also created a small article #link
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anteayaanyone in -qa19:04
anteayatry mtrenish19:04
romcheg#action romcheg Ask mtreinish to take a look at Ironic patch19:05
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jdobromcheg: +1 to that wiki19:05
NobodyCam#action romcheg Ask mtreinish to take a look at Ironic patch19:05
NobodyCamnot sure the action will take if you are not a chair19:05
romchegactions are not for simple mortals :)19:06
NobodyCamok my update with the dib elements.. .is I have no update19:06
NobodyCamsorry still fighting with my system19:06
NobodyCamshould be able to get back into it this week19:06
NobodyCam(i hope)19:06
jdobcan you give a quick one line explanation of what you're doing with dib?19:07
romchegNobodyCam: Well, we're not affected by the feature freeze, are we? So nothing bad happens, if there's a small delay19:07
NobodyCamwe as in ironic no19:08
NobodyCamthose are links for the ironic element I am creating for disk image builder19:09
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NobodyCamjdob: just fyi I *try* and keep the agenda uptodate19:09
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jdoboops, sorry, didnt even think to look at that19:09
NobodyCam# link
NobodyCamlol its ok I didn't past a link to it19:10
romchegI think that should be #agenda19:10
NobodyCampaste even19:10
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NobodyCamthat it for question / comments on testing env?19:11
NobodyCam#topic in-progress tasks19:11
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NobodyCamKeystone authentication19:11
romchegNo good news about that yet19:11
NobodyCamromcheg: is there a review I can link in the aganda?19:12
romchegV3 domains still do not work, at least I cannot make them work19:12
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yuriyzthere is keystone bug?19:12
romchegThe patch to Ironic is a very small. I cannot upload it until I have at least something that works19:12
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romchegyuriz: Yes, I mentioned it in our previous meeting19:13
romchegCannot find it now so quickly19:13
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NobodyCamromcheg: if you put a review we can all take a look. I find more eyes is always helpful19:14
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NobodyCamI'll look for the keystone bug after the meeting and link it into the agenda19:14
romchegNobodyCam: ok19:14
NobodyCamromcheg: just mark it as WIP19:14
romcheg*not after the meeting, in the morning19:15
NobodyCamquestions / comments on keystone?19:15
NobodyCam(hehehehe sure)19:15
NobodyCammoving on then.19:15
NobodyCamPXE driver19:15
NobodyCamGheRivero: wow looking good19:15
GheRiverowaiting for dib or devstack to start real testing :)19:16
yuriyzgood, but corrent19:16
yuriyzcurrent code for deploy-helper19:16
yuriyzonly first step19:17
romchegGheRivero: You can try it on devstack even now19:17
GheRiveroyeah. that's my plan for this week19:17
NobodyCamGheRivero: that will build a ironic image19:17
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NobodyCamshould also have a heat template for starting it19:18
NobodyCamany question comments on pxe driver?19:19
NobodyCamGheRivero: I will try and review it today19:19
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NobodyCammoving on then19:19
NobodyCamIPMI name conflict with python-ipmi19:19
NobodyCamI think the rename is done19:20
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NobodyCamno jbjohnso19:21
NobodyCamany questions on the rename?19:21
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NobodyCamok next up Fix for recursive-driver-import problem19:21
NobodyCamit also is done19:22
lucasagomesseems to be fixed as well19:22
lucasagomesI think we should remove those from the agenda19:22
NobodyCamI will remove both from agenda19:22
NobodyCamok then19:22
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NobodyCam#topic API discussion19:22
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NobodyCamand our epic story19:23
NobodyCamput vs patch19:23
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NobodyCamI think its now clear we need both19:24
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, yup yea so we are using both19:24
lucasagomesdid some work on it at the end of today, there's a bit more to do on the db side19:24
NobodyCam:) awesome lucasagomes19:25
lucasagomesbasically the way we are updating the resources currently doesn't allow us to delete them (set it to None for e.g), with patch we should be able to do it19:25
lucasagomesso i will try to work a bit on that19:25
NobodyCamquestions / comments?19:25
NobodyCamok ... missed this one last week... API response code support in Pecan/WSME19:26
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lucasagomesI think, it was fixed in trunk19:26
romchegAFAIR yes19:27
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NobodyCamok then weill remove that one too19:27
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NobodyCamvendor_passthru: return values and HTTP methods allowed for this resource19:27
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NobodyCamlucasagomes: you had some thoughts on this19:28
lucasagomesok vendor_passthru... last week we agreed on how it will look like in the API side19:28
NobodyCamyuriyz: you still around?19:28
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yuriyzshould we pass node_id or node_obj from api?19:28
romchegyuriyz: I think an id should be sufficient.19:29
lucasagomeswe basically decided that clients will do something POST '{"foo": "bar"}' /nodes/1/vendor_passthru/<method>19:29
lucasagomeswhere method doesn't exist in the api code19:29
yuriyzok i agree19:29
lucasagomesyuriyz, id, with the id u can get the obj19:29
lucasagomesif needed19:29
lucasagomesok some thoughts about it19:30
lucasagomeswhich HTTP method should be allowed by this resource?19:30
NobodyCamthe obj thing was me19:30
yuriyzand return?19:30
lucasagomesonly POST? POST/PUT? GET as well?19:30
NobodyCamid is what we should pass19:30
yuriyzpost must be in this list19:30
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romchegPOST should be sufficient19:31
lucasagomesanyone see any use for GET in this method?19:31
lucasagomesromcheg, +1 in the moment I only see use for POST19:31
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NobodyCamnot off the top my head19:31
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romchegI think we can always allow other methods, if they are required19:32
lucasagomesromcheg, +119:32
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lucasagomesso I will allow POST-only for now19:32
lucasagomeslater if needed we add more19:32
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yuriyzand rpc side? general 'notify' or single 'passthru' method?19:32
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NobodyCamwe are set up for the single passthru19:34
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NobodyCamany more Q / C?19:35
lucasagomeswhat should it return?19:35
lucasagomesif it's async and we are retuning a 20219:35
lucasagomeswe should return some object that would allow the client to monitor that request19:35
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lucasagomesyuriyz, any thoughts?19:36
lucasagomesI see ur calling cast here:
yuriyzI will wait your API patch19:37
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NobodyCamI need to look at that one more closly19:39
lucasagomeshmm I see, but we need to try to find out19:39
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lucasagomesif I should wait for a return value19:39
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yuriyzi think no19:39
lucasagomesor should just call it and return something like 202 and say that the request is fine but it async so there's no ret value19:40
lucasagomesand how the user would monitor if the request was complete ?19:40
NobodyCamlucasagomes: ya19:40
romcheg+1 ащк 20219:40
NobodyCam+1 -> 20219:40
yuriyzand 'method' should be a parameter?19:41
yuriyzin rpc19:41
lucasagomesyuriyz, IMO yes19:41
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lucasagomesI would separete method and data19:41
yuriyzyes, data is vendor specific19:42
lucasagomesso that means that we are not introspecting the user data at all19:42
lucasagomeswe are just passing the same data the client send us to the driver19:42
lucasagomeswithout touching/looking at it at all19:42
yuriyzonly driver should veryfy data19:42
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lucasagomesany other q / c?19:43
NobodyCamhehehe :-p19:43
NobodyCamok then moving on to: Food For Thought / open discussion19:44
NobodyCam#topic open discussion19:44
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NobodyCamI staated to see some questions about ironic and networking19:45
romchegDid we make any plans regarding to networking/19:45
romchegWe have a bunch of folks here who are interested in making Ironic work with neutron19:45
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NobodyCamum .. cough ...19:45
NobodyCamromcheg: bring them over.. I think we will need to do that19:46
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romchegMy concern is that we didn't have any discussions on that19:46
NobodyCamthats why I put up the FFT section19:46
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romchegI can bring them to #openstack-ironic tomorrow.19:47
romchegDo we need to wait for devananda to discuss this?19:47
lucasagomeswhat's the story with neutron and pxe boot?19:47
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NobodyCamI think we can start to discuss but prob want to wait for input befor3 we get into real work19:48
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NobodyCamlucasagomes: how will ironic attach to different networks to boot clients19:49
romcheglucasagomes: we need at least to configure networking to let the node to access ironic node for pxe-boot19:49
NobodyCamdkehn: any thought on this topic???19:50
lucasagomesI found an old email threat about quantum + nova bm + pxe boot19:50
dkehnhmm, still thinking19:50
dkehnthis is going to be a longer sdiscussion19:51
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NobodyCamalso can you #link your current reviews19:51
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romchegIf we're done on networking, I have also a question on DB :)19:51
NobodyCamromcheg: shot19:51
dkehnbut your going to have to configure it in /etc//nova/nov.conf and then have the and patches in placew19:52
NobodyCamthis is open floor19:52
romchegNow we use migrations to initialize a DB19:52
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romchegSince we didn't have any released packages, we can use models to create the new DB19:52
yuriyzand my last patch demonstrate models != migrations19:53
romchegyuriyz: yes, that's the biggest problem of this approach19:53
* NobodyCam notes 5 minutes19:54
NobodyCamTy dkehn19:55
jdobso the current approach is to apply all of the migrations in order to build up the DB from scratch?19:55
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romchegjdob: yes19:55
NobodyCamyes db-sync19:55
jdobthe benefit to that is that, a few releases down the road, it's more likely a new install will look like an upgraded one. my concern is that if models != migrations, a 1.5 fresh installation will look different than one upgraded from 1.x19:56
jdob"benefit to using migrations" that is19:56
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jdobif there's drift between the model and migrations, long term there's potential for maintenance headaches on upgrades19:57
NobodyCamjdob: I tend to agree with migrations19:57
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NobodyCamok getting close to the bell19:58
NobodyCamany thing left we can take to our regular channel19:59
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NobodyCamoh then19:59
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NobodyCamok then *19:59
NobodyCamthank you all for a great meeting20:00
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lucasagomesnp :)20:00
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jdobthanks NobodyCam20:00
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openstackMinutes (text):
lucasagomes:) good meeting20:00
NobodyCamI'll get the agenda updated this week20:00
SpamapS#startmeeting TripleO20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'20:01
SpamapS#topic Roll Call!20:01
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dkehncue crickets20:02
* SpamapS wonders just how much of TripleO is off to burn the man :)20:02
dkehnlol, I alos think its an English holiday20:02
SpamapSI do believe if we have but 2 active participants, I may declare this meeting lacking in quorum.20:02
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dkehnI seconded to motion20:03
jog0I third that20:03
dkehnno say it ain20:03
dkehnso say it ain't so20:03
dkehnoh crap20:03
SpamapSok lets meet :)20:04
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SpamapS#topic bugs20:04
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SpamapS seemed rather nasty20:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1213967 in nova "Seed VM filtering out compute resources" [Critical,In progress]20:06
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jog0SpamapS: that was because of me20:07
jog0and the lack of tests in the baremetal driver20:07
SpamapSare we just waiting on lifeless to respond to reviews?20:07
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jog0for that  bug I don't think so the nova patch was reverted20:08
SpamapSso do we just need to mark the bug as fix committed manually in nova, and fix released in tripleo?20:08
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SpamapSjog0: ^^ ?20:10
jog0SpamapS: yes20:10
jog0although a related bug should be opened in nova for lack of tests in barematal driver20:10
SpamapSCool. The two criticals assigned to me should be addressed/closed/split/something by end of this week. I've been distracted by Heat issues the last week or so.20:10
SpamapSjog0: sounds like an action for you. :)20:11
SpamapS(and agreed)20:11
pleia2ci currently has a baremetal test bug open20:11
SpamapSprobably low priority though, as it is an ironic release away from being deprecated :)20:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged]20:11
SpamapSany other bugs people want to bring up?20:11
SpamapSthe other ones lead to the Grizzly POC we did.. so..20:12
SpamapS#topic  Grizzly test rack status20:12
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SpamapSMy plan has been to go after the POC: bugs after I tackle the other two criticals. Still the plan.20:13
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SpamapSHave not heard anything specific about the test rack lately though.20:13
SpamapSso if nobody else has anything20:13
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SpamapS#topic CI virtualized testing progress20:14
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1217082 in nova "baremetal driver needs better tests" [Undecided,New]20:14
SpamapSjog0: cripes20:14
SpamapSjog0: oh ok that was just "here's the bug" ;)20:14
* SpamapS un-cripes jog020:14
pleia2no updates since last week (I got busy with other infra things)20:14
jog0SpamapS: haha yeah20:14
SpamapSpleia2: ^^ you're up.20:14
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pleia2jog0: perhaps you just want to instead add nova to ?20:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged]20:15
SpamapSpleia2: perhaps you and I should buy a round of beers for the team for every week we get distracted from our TripleO tasks. ;)20:15
jog0pleia2: that too but I want unit tests20:15
* jog0 updates bug20:16
pleia2jog0: oh ok :)20:16
pleia2SpamapS: haha20:16
SpamapS#topic open discussion20:16
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jog0I have one actaully20:16
jog0upgrade ordering20:16
dkehnfew more reviews on after we added the new features20:16
jog0so I recently got stuck by the fact that nova has no rpcapi compat testing20:17
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jog0so a a first pass I am just trying everything trunk and grizzly compute20:17
jog0does it seem reasonable to assume nova-compute nodes will be the last step in an upgrade?20:17
SpamapSjog0: yes. I've been thinking actually about the fact that we really need something that systematically controls orchestration changes in Heat..20:18
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jog0SpamapS: yeah, well for now i am ignoring the actual upgrade and testing the mid-upgrade code path20:19
jog0but to do so I need to define what that is20:19
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SpamapSjog0: I think all of the components should be able to express, at least in documentation, what they need done and when, for an upgrade.20:19
SpamapSjog0: so if nova compute needs all other RPC partners to be speaking the "new" RPC, then it should say that in the manual. :)20:20
jog0SpamapS: ++, having this docuemnted in triplo will be really helpful20:20
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jog0SpamapS: well with upgrade_levels the rpc upgrade stuff is a little easier20:21
jog0in theory20:21
SpamapSYeah I'd hope all new things can talk to all old things.20:21
jog0SpamapS: exactly20:21
SpamapSBut I would accept that there may be a few special pieces that need ordering.20:21
jog0SpamapS: yeah, for example nova-compute should be last20:22
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jog0I think20:22
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SpamapSnova-compute may also be one where the nodes are just decomissioned and allowed to die-off through attrition.. so they should be able to stay online for a long, long time.20:22
jog0so early testing looks pretty decent for running grizzly nova-compute with trunk20:23
jog0after I reverted a patch, tempest only had 10 failures20:23
SpamapSonly 10!20:23
jog0so just 1% failure rate20:23
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SpamapSok, good stuff to keep in mind.20:24
SpamapSanything else?20:24
jog0nothing over here20:25
pleia2thanks SpamapS20:25
SpamapSBy the power vested in me by the distinguished technologist Robert Collins and the great foundation of OpenStack, I release you all back to productivity. May the code be with you.20:25
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jog0SpamapS: :) thanks20:25
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SumitNaiksatamHi All!21:00
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salv-orlando2Mandelson should be with us in a few sec21:01
salv-orlando2Meant markmcclain21:01
pcm_hi all21:02
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rkukuramarkmcclain: we all said hi already21:03
markmcclain#startmeeting Networking21:04
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markmcclain#topic Announcements21:05
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markmcclainThe proposal feature freeze is in effect21:05
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markmcclainLooks like nearly everything made it, but a few things were granted exceptions21:06
markmcclainwhen they're posted I will be adding a note so that the reviews don't get penalized for being late21:06
markmcclainWe're going to have a busy week reviewing code21:06
markmcclainas the H3 deadline is the end of day Sept 3rd21:07
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markmcclainnew feature code submitted now will be held out until Icehouse opens around Sept 26th21:07
markmcclainAt this point we should turn our focus to polishing the code to be release ready and ensuring we have a good set of docs21:08
markmcclainthe team will be on the lookout for features that are masquerading as bugs21:09
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markmcclainAny questions about the feature freeze?21:09
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markmcclain#topic Bugs21:10
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markmcclainwe've got two critical bugs open21:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1216866 in neutron "Race condition in Neutron initialization (policy loading)" [Critical,Confirmed]21:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1208661 in neutron "nova show command sometimes don't includes ip address" [Critical,In progress]21:11
markmcclainsalvatore and enikanorov-w having been working on 121686621:11
salv-orlando2Bug 1216866 has been trusted21:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1216866 in neutron "Race condition in Neutron initialization (policy loading)" [Critical,Confirmed]
salv-orlando2Fix will be pushed shortly21:11
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markmcclainthat's good to hear21:12
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nati_ueno1208661 is in still investigations. It looks like 15 rechecks now21:12
markmcclainnati_ueno: thanks for updating21:13
markmcclainany other bugs the team should be tracking?21:13
wolfdreamerAs far as bugs masqeruading as features, has anybody seen this :
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1211513 in neutron "neutron.api.extensions should resolve full module path when importing extensions so that proper base class comparison is done" [Undecided,In progress]21:13
nati_ueno gets high failure rate in gating also21:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1211915 in neutron "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Undecided,New]21:14
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markmcclainwolfdreamer: I looked at it briefly, but have not had time to check into it further21:14
wolfdreamermarkmcclain, k thanks21:15
markmcclainnati_ueno: I'll add that the list of important bugs we're tracking21:16
nati_uenomarkmcclain: Thanks21:16
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markmcclainAny other bugs?21:16
markmcclain#topic docs21:17
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markmcclainemagana: hi21:17
emaganamarkmcclain: hi21:17
emaganalong list of bugs to fix but what is more important to start documenting the new features21:17
emaganaplease, file Blueprints for any feature included in Havana21:19
markmcclainyeah.. we're tracking fwaas, vpnass, and ml221:19
markmcclainwe can work offline to make sure we've got a more complete list21:19
emaganamarkmcclain: sure! nothing else to report21:19
emaganamarkmcclain: Almost forget about it...21:20
markmcclainWe've got two items currently in review.,n,z21:20
markmcclainwhen folks have change look at salv-orlando2 and pcm_ proposed docs21:20
emaganaWe may need to create a new section for all services, the way it is now could be confusing for readers21:20
pcm_yes please do;
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markmcclainemagana: let's discuss offline with annegentle and see what direction we should take21:21
annegentlealso please review
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annegentleI'm here21:21
markmcclainannegentle: hi21:21
emaganamarkmcclain: sounds good!21:21
annegentlealso happy to talk later21:21
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markmcclainannegentle: ok.. let chat real quick after the meeting is over if you're around21:22
markmcclainSkipping the API this week because there's nothing to report21:22
markmcclain#topic VPN21:23
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markmcclainnati_ueno: hi21:23
nati_uenoOK client is approved.21:23
markmcclaintried to ping you earlier because I wanted to confirm that if we select strongswan we can get rid of the wrapper correct?21:24
nati_uenothere is four patches. Driver impl, status update, OpenSwan support, service type framework support21:24
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markmcclainor is it openswan that does not need the wrapper21:24
nati_uenomarkmcclain: its openswan21:24
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nati_uenomarkmcclain: so you prefer to choose openswan and remove the ns wrapper?21:25
markmcclainmy preference is to support only openswan21:25
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markmcclainso that we get RHEL and centos21:25
markmcclainand don't have a wrapper21:25
salv-orlando2I think at this stage we should release Havana with the same f2f eat choice21:25
salv-orlando2Which looks like it's openswan21:25
nati_uenook if so,  I'll merge drvier impl and status update and openswan, and remove strongswan support21:25
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markmcclainI think that is the simplest approach21:26
pcm_There minor changes to limits in plugin:
markmcclainmaybe in the next 6mos we can get someone to contribute an upstream fix for strongswan21:26
salv-orlando2Safest often is simplest too21:26
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nati_uenoOK Thanks. That's all from vpnaas21:27
markmcclainnati_ueno: thanks for the update21:28
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markmcclain#topic nova21:28
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markmcclaingaryk: hi21:28
garykmarkmcclain: hi21:28
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garykno updates on this front21:28
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markmcclainok.. now that we're in a stability focus should we get some team members to focus on the bugs you've listed?21:29
markmcclainbug 119228721:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1192287 in nova "Creating server did not fail when exceeded Quantum quota limit" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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markmcclainnati_ueno: what is the status of bug 111291221:30
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1112912 in neutron "get_firewall_required should use VIF parameter from quantum" [High,In progress]
garykarosen had ideas regarding this one but if i recall correctly the guys in the community did not like moving the checks.21:30
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nati_uenomarkmcclain: Ah sorry it is slipped on my task list. I'll rebase the code21:31
garyki think that nati_ueno has a patch for that (unless i am mistaken)\21:31
markmcclainnati_ueno: ok21:31
nati_uenogaryk: yes. I rebased it in two week ago,21:31
nati_uenomarkmcclain: Ah but it needes nova side support21:31
markmcclainAny other nova items?21:31
garykmarkmcclain: nope21:31
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markmcclainnati_ueno: do we have proposed code for the nova side or do we need to have someone work on it21:32
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nati_uenomarkmcclain: I'll write the nova side code, but I should check nova side FFE policy. Do they think this is a bug or not21:32
nati_uenomarkmcclain: I'll check this with Russel21:32
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markmcclainnati_ueno: sounds good21:33
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markmcclaingaryk: thanks for the update21:33
markmcclain#topic FWaaS21:33
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: hi21:33
SumitNaiksatamCLI patch for commit operation was posted by RajeshMohan (
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SumitNaiksatamthe API patch ( is waiting for more reviews21:33
SumitNaiksatam(one of the three salvatores here can review it? :-))21:34
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SumitNaiksatamthere was some review activity on the devstack patch ( and is ready for approval in my opinion21:34
SumitNaiksatamthe Horizon patch ( hasn't had any review activity in the past week21:34
SumitNaiksatamI also submitted a FWaaS patch for Heat (
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salv3I Havana not yet performed a full review but I have been . Looking for similar21:34
salv3Approaches in restful PAId21:35
SumitNaiksatamsalv3: thanks21:35
SumitNaiksatamother than that FWaaS team is running tests, filling and fixing bugs21:35
markmcclaingaryk: would you mind taking a look at the devstack patch SumitNaiksatam referenced?21:35
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: garyk is on it21:36
salv3So far I could not find anything similar. Probably because keeping state across requests is not restful at all. But I am not sure if I am saying something stupid here21:36
garykSumitNaiksatam: i have +2'ed. you addresed my concerns. Thanks!21:36
SumitNaiksatamgaryk: thanks!21:36
SumitNaiksatamsalv3: ok21:36
salv3But I will perform a full code review so we can resumes the discussion from there21:37
SumitNaiksatamsalv3: thanks21:37
markmcclainsalv3: thanks for looking at it21:37
SumitNaiksatamany other thoughts/comments/questions on FWaaS (else I am done)21:37
amotokiRelated to Horizon (or Heat), we need to release CLI.  Any release plan?21:37
markmcclainamotoki: I can release contact me offline21:38
markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: thanks for the update21:38
markmcclain#topic LBaaS21:38
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amotokimarkmcclain: thanks.21:38
enikanorov_anything we've planned for lbaas is on review21:38
enikanorov_two major patches are blocked by policy loading issue21:38
markmcclainservice types is the major item remaining right?21:39
nati_uenomarkmcclain: amotoki: could you please wait vpnaas client is merged? (It should be merged in few hours)21:39
enikanorov_but others are ready for review and are not very big21:39
enikanorov_markmcclain: right21:39
markmcclainnati_ueno: yes… I'm also going to look in the backlog to see if there are any other items to include as well21:39
enikanorov_vpnaas patch is also blocked by the same issue as it is dependent on my patch21:39
nati_uenomarkmcclain: Thanks21:39
markmcclainenikanorov_: I'll take a fresh look at the service types later today21:40
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markmcclainAny questions for LBaaS?21:40
markmcclain#topic ML221:40
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salv-orlandohi folks. I changed again my identity!21:40
rkukurathe key BPs made the deadline: portbinding, mult-segment-api, several mechanism drivers21:40
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rkukurawe've got work to do to get them all merged21:41
markmcclainrkukura: looks like we had a few vendors drivers submitted too21:41
markmcclainthat's good news21:41
rkukuramarkmcclain: definitely!21:41
rkukuraone new BP/patch today may be candidate for an exception21:42
markmcclainok.. I'll start a thread on the ML, but I'd like to make ML2 the default for open source plugin for Havana21:42
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rkukuraThis was a TODO that I though would get treated as a bug - its pretty much boiler plate competing the driver API21:42
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rkukuraBig question is how to go about getting ml2 into gating?21:43
emaganamarkmcclain: +121:43
markmcclainonce ml2 becomes the default for devstack21:43
markmcclainit will be the gate21:44
markmcclainlet's solicit input from the wider community this week21:44
rkukuraso do we want to just make it the default, or do we want to start gating on it 1st, then switch default?21:44
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markmcclainand then next week we can finalize the switch details21:44
markmcclainmight make sense to gate first, but I don't want to change until after Tuesday21:45
markmcclainwe can work with the infra folks to ensure the change goes smoothly21:45
markmcclainAnything else for ML2?21:45
rkukuranot from me21:45
markmcclainrkukura: thanks for the update21:45
markmcclain#topic Horizon21:45
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markmcclainamotoki: hi21:45
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markmcclainHow are things on the Horizon front?21:46
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amotokifwaas, vpnaas are good progress.21:46
amotokii am reviewing the last round.21:46
markmcclaingood news21:46
markmcclainwe just need a client released for them21:46
amotokii have no concern abou them.21:46
amotokiI will check quota bugs from now.21:47
markmcclainAnything else to add?21:47
amotokinothing from me.21:47
markmcclainamotoki: thanks for updating21:47
markmcclain#topic Open Discussion21:47
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gongyshcan someone help review multihost patch?
enikanorov_I have a question about - "allowed address pairs"21:47
markmcclaingongysh: looks like we've got 4 cores on it21:48
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enikanorov_some folks from my company expect this feature to be added21:48
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emaganagongysh: I will be review it21:48
markmcclainand there are outstanding concerns on the current version21:48
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gongyshemagana has an opinion which needs community to address.21:48
enikanorov_but corresponding bp is not approved yet. Can we expect it to land in havana?21:48
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emaganagongysh: however, I want to know if the team is ok having this as an extension or a default operation like in nova-network21:49
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gongyshemagana: even in nova-network, admin needs to specify the --multihost=true in api to create a multihosted network.21:49
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markmcclainI'm concerned about changing a well established API21:50
emaganagongysh: let's move the discussion to ML21:50
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markmcclain+1 to moving to ML21:50
gongyshemagana: I am not sure if I follow your idea.21:50
gongyshok to ML21:50
markmcclainAny other open discussion items?21:51
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enikanorov_yeah ^^21:51
amotokidkehn: this week is a review week :-)21:52
dkehnamotoki, ok21:52
markmcclainenikanorov_: you have something new or ok with moving discussion to ML?21:52
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salv-orlando2Using yet another nick21:52
nati_uen_Which multi process patch we will use?21:52
enikanorov_well, it's not quite a discussion, it's a question about the blueprint,
salv-orlando2I suffer from multiple personalities syndrome21:53
markmcclainenikanorov_:  that's what this time is for21:53
markmcclainask away21:53
enikanorov_it's not approved, but the code was proposed a month ago21:53
enikanorov_so I'm asking is there chances it will land in H-321:53
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markmcclainenikanorov_: oops.. it's now approved :)21:53
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enikanorov_cool. That's wat i've expected :)21:54
markmcclainenikanorov_: the BP admin UI is not the greatest21:55
markmcclainOk.. we did a really good job of getting the code submitted on time21:55
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markmcclainHave a great week and let's get some code reviewed21:56
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garykgood night guys21:56
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ivar-lazzarogood night21:57
jackmccann needs one more core for approval21:57
emaganamarkmcclain and annegentle: do you want to discuss docs now?21:57
annegentleemagana: sure if it's quick :)21:57
annegentletraffic is bearing down here :)21:57
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emaganajust want to get your input in moving all services related in neutron to a different section21:58
emaganaLBaaS, VPNaaS, FWaaS21:58
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annegentleyeah I was wondering how to handle those too21:58
annegentleI'd like to put those in the config reference if possible21:58
emaganaIf you are ok with that I can start the section and the rest of devs can fill up the subsectiopns21:58
annegentleemagana: there's a fairly new "config reference"21:59
annegentleemagana: and we're trying to piece out most of the admin guides21:59
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annegentleemagana: so is this info config info or usage for end-users or something else?21:59
emaganaok, I am still have some questions about the changes on docs, will send you an email about it21:59
emaganamarkmcclain: will send you also an email with the proposed outline for neutron guide22:00
emaganasounds good?22:00
emaganaannegentle: it is both!22:00
markmcclainemagana: sounds good to me22:00
emaganaconfig info and end-user usage22:00
annegentleemagana: yeah seems like both is needed but I'm letting you know there are two "books" for that info22:01
markmcclainmakes sense the information in the config guide22:01
annegentleemagana: yeah let me know if you can't find the right homes for the info22:01
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emaganaannegentle: ok22:01
emaganaThanks Guys!22:01
annegentleemagana: thank YOU!22:02
markmcclainannegentle: thanks for hanging around to discuss22:02
annegentlemarkmcclain: sure thing22:02
annegentleheading out into traffic! :)22:02
gongyshthe multihost patch is on FFE list?22:02
markmcclainthe multihos patch made it before the feature proposal freeze22:02
gongyshok, thanks22:02
markmcclainif the code does not merge by next week's meeting we can discuss an FFE22:03
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gongyshmarkmcclain: can u help to give some time to read the emagana's comment on that patch?22:03
markmcclainok.. heading out22:03
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wolfdreamerNot sure if its to late for Neutron stuff (docs related), but I opened this bug 1215018 last week22:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1215018 in neutron "All the Namespace urls for the current extensions return 404" [Undecided,New]
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