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JoeHazzers | IT BEGINS. | 18:45 |
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NobodyCam | #startmeeting ironic | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 26 19:00:30 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
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NobodyCam | welcome to the ironic meeting | 19:00 |
GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
romcheg | Greetings folks! | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | who's here | 19:00 |
romcheg | o/ | 19:00 |
lucasagomes | :) | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | hey GheRivero romcheg | 19:01 |
yuriyz | good day all | 19:01 |
dkehn | dkehn, :) | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | hey hey look new faces | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | welcome lucasagomes yuriyz an dkehn | 19:01 |
dkehn | I'm always lurking, this is the start of my 3 hours of mettings on monday | 19:02 |
NobodyCam | hehehe | 19:02 |
NobodyCam | ok lets get started | 19:02 |
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NobodyCam | #topic testing env | 19:02 |
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NobodyCam | firstup devstack | 19:02 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41053/ | 19:03 |
NobodyCam | looks like 1 +2 | 19:03 |
romcheg | We need another one. | 19:03 |
romcheg | Who is the best person to ping? | 19:03 |
NobodyCam | humm | 19:04 |
romcheg | I have also created a small article #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic#Try_it_on_Devstack | 19:04 |
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anteaya | anyone in -qa | 19:04 |
anteaya | try mtrenish | 19:04 |
romcheg | #action romcheg Ask mtreinish to take a look at Ironic patch | 19:05 |
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jdob | romcheg: +1 to that wiki | 19:05 |
NobodyCam | #action romcheg Ask mtreinish to take a look at Ironic patch | 19:05 |
NobodyCam | not sure the action will take if you are not a chair | 19:05 |
romcheg | actions are not for simple mortals :) | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | ok my update with the dib elements.. .is I have no update | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | :( | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | sorry still fighting with my system | 19:06 |
anteaya | :/ | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | should be able to get back into it this week | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | (i hope) | 19:06 |
jdob | can you give a quick one line explanation of what you're doing with dib? | 19:07 |
romcheg | NobodyCam: Well, we're not affected by the feature freeze, are we? So nothing bad happens, if there's a small delay | 19:07 |
NobodyCam | we as in ironic no | 19:08 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41480/ | 19:08 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41492/ | 19:08 |
NobodyCam | those are links for the ironic element I am creating for disk image builder | 19:09 |
jdob | thanks | 19:09 |
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NobodyCam | jdob: just fyi I *try* and keep the agenda uptodate | 19:09 |
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jdob | oops, sorry, didnt even think to look at that | 19:09 |
NobodyCam | # link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | lol its ok I didn't past a link to it | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:10 |
romcheg | I think that should be #agenda | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | paste even | 19:10 |
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NobodyCam | +1 | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | that it for question / comments on testing env? | 19:11 |
NobodyCam | #topic in-progress tasks | 19:11 |
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NobodyCam | Keystone authentication | 19:11 |
romcheg | No good news about that yet | 19:11 |
NobodyCam | romcheg: is there a review I can link in the aganda? | 19:12 |
romcheg | V3 domains still do not work, at least I cannot make them work | 19:12 |
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yuriyz | there is keystone bug? | 19:12 |
romcheg | The patch to Ironic is a very small. I cannot upload it until I have at least something that works | 19:12 |
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romcheg | yuriz: Yes, I mentioned it in our previous meeting | 19:13 |
romcheg | Cannot find it now so quickly | 19:13 |
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NobodyCam | romcheg: if you put a review we can all take a look. I find more eyes is always helpful | 19:14 |
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NobodyCam | I'll look for the keystone bug after the meeting and link it into the agenda | 19:14 |
romcheg | NobodyCam: ok | 19:14 |
NobodyCam | romcheg: just mark it as WIP | 19:14 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:15 |
romcheg | *not after the meeting, in the morning | 19:15 |
NobodyCam | questions / comments on keystone? | 19:15 |
NobodyCam | (hehehehe sure) | 19:15 |
NobodyCam | moving on then. | 19:15 |
NobodyCam | PXE driver | 19:15 |
NobodyCam | GheRivero: wow looking good | 19:15 |
GheRivero | waiting for dib or devstack to start real testing :) | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33616/ | 19:16 |
yuriyz | good, but corrent | 19:16 |
yuriyz | current code for deploy-helper | 19:16 |
yuriyz | only first step | 19:17 |
romcheg | GheRivero: You can try it on devstack even now | 19:17 |
NobodyCam | #link https://github.com/NoBodyCam/ironic-element | 19:17 |
GheRivero | yeah. that's my plan for this week | 19:17 |
NobodyCam | GheRivero: that will build a ironic image | 19:17 |
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NobodyCam | should also have a heat template for starting it | 19:18 |
NobodyCam | any question comments on pxe driver? | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | GheRivero: I will try and review it today | 19:19 |
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NobodyCam | moving on then | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | IPMI name conflict with python-ipmi | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | I think the rename is done | 19:20 |
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NobodyCam | no jbjohnso | 19:21 |
NobodyCam | any questions on the rename? | 19:21 |
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NobodyCam | ok next up Fix for recursive-driver-import problem | 19:21 |
NobodyCam | it also is done | 19:22 |
lucasagomes | seems to be fixed as well | 19:22 |
lucasagomes | I think we should remove those from the agenda | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | I will remove both from agenda | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | ok then | 19:22 |
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NobodyCam | #topic API discussion | 19:22 |
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NobodyCam | and our epic story | 19:23 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/42690 | 19:23 |
NobodyCam | put vs patch | 19:23 |
NobodyCam | :-p | 19:23 |
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NobodyCam | I think its now clear we need both | 19:24 |
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lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yup yea so we are using both | 19:24 |
romcheg | Agree | 19:24 |
lucasagomes | did some work on it at the end of today, there's a bit more to do on the db side | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | :) awesome lucasagomes | 19:25 |
lucasagomes | basically the way we are updating the resources currently doesn't allow us to delete them (set it to None for e.g), with patch we should be able to do it | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:25 |
lucasagomes | so i will try to work a bit on that | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | questions / comments? | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | ok ... missed this one last week... API response code support in Pecan/WSME | 19:26 |
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lucasagomes | I think, it was fixed in trunk | 19:26 |
romcheg | AFAIR yes | 19:27 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:27 |
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NobodyCam | ok then weill remove that one too | 19:27 |
lucasagomes | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/013456.html | 19:27 |
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NobodyCam | :) | 19:27 |
NobodyCam | vendor_passthru: return values and HTTP methods allowed for this resource | 19:27 |
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NobodyCam | lucasagomes: you had some thoughts on this | 19:28 |
lucasagomes | ok vendor_passthru... last week we agreed on how it will look like in the API side | 19:28 |
NobodyCam | yuriyz: you still around? | 19:28 |
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yuriyz | should we pass node_id or node_obj from api? | 19:28 |
romcheg | yuriyz: I think an id should be sufficient. | 19:29 |
lucasagomes | we basically decided that clients will do something POST '{"foo": "bar"}' /nodes/1/vendor_passthru/<method> | 19:29 |
lucasagomes | where method doesn't exist in the api code | 19:29 |
yuriyz | ok i agree | 19:29 |
lucasagomes | yuriyz, id, with the id u can get the obj | 19:29 |
lucasagomes | if needed | 19:29 |
lucasagomes | ok some thoughts about it | 19:30 |
lucasagomes | which HTTP method should be allowed by this resource? | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | the obj thing was me | 19:30 |
yuriyz | and return? | 19:30 |
lucasagomes | only POST? POST/PUT? GET as well? | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | id is what we should pass | 19:30 |
yuriyz | post must be in this list | 19:30 |
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romcheg | POST should be sufficient | 19:31 |
lucasagomes | anyone see any use for GET in this method? | 19:31 |
lucasagomes | romcheg, +1 in the moment I only see use for POST | 19:31 |
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NobodyCam | not off the top my head | 19:31 |
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romcheg | I think we can always allow other methods, if they are required | 19:32 |
lucasagomes | romcheg, +1 | 19:32 |
NobodyCam | +1 | 19:32 |
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lucasagomes | so I will allow POST-only for now | 19:32 |
lucasagomes | later if needed we add more | 19:32 |
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yuriyz | and rpc side? general 'notify' or single 'passthru' method? | 19:32 |
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NobodyCam | we are set up for the single passthru | 19:34 |
NobodyCam | ? | 19:34 |
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yuriyz | agree | 19:34 |
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NobodyCam | any more Q / C? | 19:35 |
lucasagomes | yes | 19:35 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:35 |
lucasagomes | what should it return? | 19:35 |
lucasagomes | if it's async and we are retuning a 202 | 19:35 |
lucasagomes | we should return some object that would allow the client to monitor that request | 19:35 |
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lucasagomes | yuriyz, any thoughts? | 19:36 |
lucasagomes | I see ur calling cast here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41976/3/ironic/conductor/rpcapi.py | 19:36 |
yuriyz | I will wait your API patch | 19:37 |
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NobodyCam | I need to look at that one more closly | 19:39 |
lucasagomes | hmm I see, but we need to try to find out | 19:39 |
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lucasagomes | if I should wait for a return value | 19:39 |
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yuriyz | i think no | 19:39 |
lucasagomes | or should just call it and return something like 202 and say that the request is fine but it async so there's no ret value | 19:40 |
lucasagomes | ok | 19:40 |
yuriyz | +1 | 19:40 |
lucasagomes | and how the user would monitor if the request was complete ? | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | lucasagomes: ya | 19:40 |
romcheg | +1 ащк 202 | 19:40 |
romcheg | *for | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | +1 -> 202 | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:40 |
yuriyz | and 'method' should be a parameter? | 19:41 |
yuriyz | in rpc | 19:41 |
lucasagomes | yuriyz, IMO yes | 19:41 |
yuriyz | agree | 19:41 |
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lucasagomes | I would separete method and data | 19:41 |
yuriyz | yes, data is vendor specific | 19:42 |
NobodyCam | +1 | 19:42 |
lucasagomes | so that means that we are not introspecting the user data at all | 19:42 |
lucasagomes | we are just passing the same data the client send us to the driver | 19:42 |
lucasagomes | without touching/looking at it at all | 19:42 |
NobodyCam | yes! | 19:42 |
yuriyz | only driver should veryfy data | 19:42 |
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lucasagomes | yea | 19:42 |
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NobodyCam | :) | 19:43 |
lucasagomes | any other q / c? | 19:43 |
NobodyCam | hehehe :-p | 19:43 |
NobodyCam | ok then moving on to: Food For Thought / open discussion | 19:44 |
NobodyCam | #topic open discussion | 19:44 |
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NobodyCam | I staated to see some questions about ironic and networking | 19:45 |
romcheg | Did we make any plans regarding to networking/ | 19:45 |
romcheg | We have a bunch of folks here who are interested in making Ironic work with neutron | 19:45 |
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NobodyCam | um .. cough ... | 19:45 |
lucasagomes | hehe | 19:45 |
NobodyCam | romcheg: bring them over.. I think we will need to do that | 19:46 |
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romcheg | My concern is that we didn't have any discussions on that | 19:46 |
NobodyCam | thats why I put up the FFT section | 19:46 |
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romcheg | I can bring them to #openstack-ironic tomorrow. | 19:47 |
romcheg | Do we need to wait for devananda to discuss this? | 19:47 |
lucasagomes | what's the story with neutron and pxe boot? | 19:47 |
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NobodyCam | I think we can start to discuss but prob want to wait for input befor3 we get into real work | 19:48 |
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NobodyCam | lucasagomes: how will ironic attach to different networks to boot clients | 19:49 |
romcheg | lucasagomes: we need at least to configure networking to let the node to access ironic node for pxe-boot | 19:49 |
NobodyCam | dkehn: any thought on this topic??? | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | I found an old email threat about quantum + nova bm + pxe boot | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-January/004267.html | 19:50 |
dkehn | hmm, still thinking | 19:50 |
dkehn | this is going to be a longer sdiscussion | 19:51 |
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NobodyCam | also can you #link your current reviews | 19:51 |
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romcheg | If we're done on networking, I have also a question on DB :) | 19:51 |
NobodyCam | romcheg: shot | 19:51 |
dkehn | but your going to have to configure it in /etc//nova/nov.conf and then have the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30441/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30447/ patches in placew | 19:52 |
NobodyCam | this is open floor | 19:52 |
romcheg | Now we use migrations to initialize a DB | 19:52 |
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romcheg | Since we didn't have any released packages, we can use models to create the new DB | 19:52 |
yuriyz | and my last patch demonstrate models != migrations | 19:53 |
romcheg | yuriyz: yes, that's the biggest problem of this approach | 19:53 |
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NobodyCam | Ty dkehn | 19:55 |
jdob | so the current approach is to apply all of the migrations in order to build up the DB from scratch? | 19:55 |
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romcheg | jdob: yes | 19:55 |
NobodyCam | yes db-sync | 19:55 |
jdob | the benefit to that is that, a few releases down the road, it's more likely a new install will look like an upgraded one. my concern is that if models != migrations, a 1.5 fresh installation will look different than one upgraded from 1.x | 19:56 |
jdob | "benefit to using migrations" that is | 19:56 |
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jdob | if there's drift between the model and migrations, long term there's potential for maintenance headaches on upgrades | 19:57 |
NobodyCam | jdob: I tend to agree with migrations | 19:57 |
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NobodyCam | ok getting close to the bell | 19:58 |
lucasagomes | :) | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | any thing left we can take to our regular channel | 19:59 |
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NobodyCam | oh then | 19:59 |
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NobodyCam | ok then * | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | thank you all for a great meeting | 20:00 |
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lucasagomes | np :) | 20:00 |
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NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
jdob | thanks NobodyCam | 20:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 26 20:00:15 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-26-19.00.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-26-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-26-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
NobodyCam | :) | 20:00 |
lucasagomes | :) good meeting | 20:00 |
NobodyCam | ya | 20:00 |
NobodyCam | I'll get the agenda updated this week | 20:00 |
SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 26 20:01:05 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:01 |
SpamapS | #topic Roll Call! | 20:01 |
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SpamapS | o/ | 20:01 |
dkehn | yo | 20:01 |
dkehn | cue crickets | 20:02 |
* SpamapS wonders just how much of TripleO is off to burn the man :) | 20:02 | |
dkehn | lol, I alos think its an English holiday | 20:02 |
SpamapS | I do believe if we have but 2 active participants, I may declare this meeting lacking in quorum. | 20:02 |
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dkehn | I seconded to motion | 20:03 |
jog0 | I third that | 20:03 |
dkehn | s/to/the/ | 20:03 |
dkehn | no say it ain | 20:03 |
dkehn | so say it ain't so | 20:03 |
dkehn | oh crap | 20:03 |
SpamapS | ok lets meet :) | 20:04 |
NobodyCam | o/ | 20:04 |
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SpamapS | #topic bugs | 20:04 |
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SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 20:04 |
SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 20:05 |
SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config/ | 20:05 |
SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config/ | 20:05 |
SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/ | 20:05 |
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SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1213967 seemed rather nasty | 20:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1213967 in nova "Seed VM filtering out compute resources" [Critical,In progress] | 20:06 |
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jog0 | SpamapS: that was because of me | 20:07 |
jog0 | and the lack of tests in the baremetal driver | 20:07 |
SpamapS | are we just waiting on lifeless to respond to reviews? | 20:07 |
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jog0 | for that bug I don't think so the nova patch was reverted | 20:08 |
SpamapS | so do we just need to mark the bug as fix committed manually in nova, and fix released in tripleo? | 20:08 |
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SpamapS | jog0: ^^ ? | 20:10 |
jog0 | SpamapS: yes | 20:10 |
jog0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43235/ | 20:10 |
jog0 | although a related bug should be opened in nova for lack of tests in barematal driver | 20:10 |
SpamapS | Cool. The two criticals assigned to me should be addressed/closed/split/something by end of this week. I've been distracted by Heat issues the last week or so. | 20:10 |
SpamapS | jog0: sounds like an action for you. :) | 20:11 |
SpamapS | (and agreed) | 20:11 |
pleia2 | ci currently has a baremetal test bug open | 20:11 |
SpamapS | probably low priority though, as it is an ironic release away from being deprecated :) | 20:11 |
pleia2 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1082795 | 20:11 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged] | 20:11 |
SpamapS | any other bugs people want to bring up? | 20:11 |
SpamapS | the other ones lead to the Grizzly POC we did.. so.. | 20:12 |
SpamapS | #topic Grizzly test rack status | 20:12 |
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SpamapS | My plan has been to go after the POC: bugs after I tackle the other two criticals. Still the plan. | 20:13 |
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SpamapS | Have not heard anything specific about the test rack lately though. | 20:13 |
SpamapS | so if nobody else has anything | 20:13 |
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SpamapS | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 20:14 |
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jog0 | SpamapS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1217082 | 20:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1217082 in nova "baremetal driver needs better tests" [Undecided,New] | 20:14 |
SpamapS | jog0: cripes | 20:14 |
SpamapS | jog0: oh ok that was just "here's the bug" ;) | 20:14 |
* SpamapS un-cripes jog0 | 20:14 | |
pleia2 | no updates since last week (I got busy with other infra things) | 20:14 |
jog0 | SpamapS: haha yeah | 20:14 |
SpamapS | pleia2: ^^ you're up. | 20:14 |
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pleia2 | jog0: perhaps you just want to instead add nova to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1082795 ? | 20:15 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged] | 20:15 |
SpamapS | pleia2: perhaps you and I should buy a round of beers for the team for every week we get distracted from our TripleO tasks. ;) | 20:15 |
jog0 | pleia2: that too but I want unit tests | 20:15 |
* jog0 updates bug | 20:16 | |
pleia2 | jog0: oh ok :) | 20:16 |
pleia2 | SpamapS: haha | 20:16 |
SpamapS | #topic open discussion | 20:16 |
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jog0 | I have one actaully | 20:16 |
jog0 | upgrade ordering | 20:16 |
dkehn | few more reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30441/22/neutron/db/extradhcpopt_db.py after we added the new features | 20:16 |
jog0 | so I recently got stuck by the fact that nova has no rpcapi compat testing | 20:17 |
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jog0 | so a a first pass I am just trying everything trunk and grizzly compute | 20:17 |
jog0 | does it seem reasonable to assume nova-compute nodes will be the last step in an upgrade? | 20:17 |
SpamapS | jog0: yes. I've been thinking actually about the fact that we really need something that systematically controls orchestration changes in Heat.. | 20:18 |
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jog0 | SpamapS: yeah, well for now i am ignoring the actual upgrade and testing the mid-upgrade code path | 20:19 |
jog0 | but to do so I need to define what that is | 20:19 |
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SpamapS | jog0: I think all of the components should be able to express, at least in documentation, what they need done and when, for an upgrade. | 20:19 |
SpamapS | jog0: so if nova compute needs all other RPC partners to be speaking the "new" RPC, then it should say that in the manual. :) | 20:20 |
jog0 | SpamapS: ++, having this docuemnted in triplo will be really helpful | 20:20 |
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jog0 | SpamapS: well with upgrade_levels the rpc upgrade stuff is a little easier | 20:21 |
jog0 | in theory | 20:21 |
SpamapS | Yeah I'd hope all new things can talk to all old things. | 20:21 |
jog0 | SpamapS: exactly | 20:21 |
SpamapS | But I would accept that there may be a few special pieces that need ordering. | 20:21 |
jog0 | SpamapS: yeah, for example nova-compute should be last | 20:22 |
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jog0 | I think | 20:22 |
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SpamapS | nova-compute may also be one where the nodes are just decomissioned and allowed to die-off through attrition.. so they should be able to stay online for a long, long time. | 20:22 |
jog0 | so early testing looks pretty decent for running grizzly nova-compute with trunk | 20:23 |
jog0 | after I reverted a patch, tempest only had 10 failures | 20:23 |
SpamapS | only 10! | 20:23 |
SpamapS | :) | 20:23 |
jog0 | so just 1% failure rate | 20:23 |
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SpamapS | ok, good stuff to keep in mind. | 20:24 |
SpamapS | anything else? | 20:24 |
jog0 | nothing over here | 20:25 |
pleia2 | thanks SpamapS | 20:25 |
SpamapS | By the power vested in me by the distinguished technologist Robert Collins and the great foundation of OpenStack, I release you all back to productivity. May the code be with you. | 20:25 |
SpamapS | #endmeeting | 20:25 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 26 20:25:38 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-26-20.01.html | 20:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-26-20.01.txt | 20:25 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-26-20.01.log.html | 20:25 |
jog0 | SpamapS: :) thanks | 20:25 |
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gongysh | hi | 20:59 |
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armax | hello | 20:59 |
salv-orlando2 | Aloha | 20:59 |
garyk | hi | 21:00 |
dkehn | hi | 21:00 |
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SumitNaiksatam | Hi All! | 21:00 |
RajeshMohan | Hi | 21:00 |
amotoki | hi | 21:00 |
emagana | hola! | 21:01 |
nati_ueno | hi! | 21:01 |
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enikanorov_ | hello | 21:01 |
geoffarnold | hi | 21:01 |
salv-orlando2 | Mandelson should be with us in a few sec | 21:01 |
rkukura | hi | 21:01 |
salv-orlando2 | Meant markmcclain | 21:01 |
ivar-lazzaro | hi | 21:01 |
pcm_ | hi all | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | hi | 21:02 |
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rkukura | markmcclain: we all said hi already | 21:03 |
markmcclain | ah | 21:04 |
enikanorov_ | :) | 21:04 |
markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 26 21:04:24 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:04 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:04 |
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markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:04 |
markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | The proposal feature freeze is in effect | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | Looks like nearly everything made it, but a few things were granted exceptions | 21:06 |
markmcclain | when they're posted I will be adding a note so that the reviews don't get penalized for being late | 21:06 |
markmcclain | We're going to have a busy week reviewing code | 21:06 |
markmcclain | as the H3 deadline is the end of day Sept 3rd | 21:07 |
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markmcclain | new feature code submitted now will be held out until Icehouse opens around Sept 26th | 21:07 |
markmcclain | At this point we should turn our focus to polishing the code to be release ready and ensuring we have a good set of docs | 21:08 |
markmcclain | the team will be on the lookout for features that are masquerading as bugs | 21:09 |
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markmcclain | Any questions about the feature freeze? | 21:09 |
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markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:10 |
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markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:10 |
markmcclain | we | 21:10 |
markmcclain | we've got two critical bugs open | 21:10 |
markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1216866 | 21:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1216866 in neutron "Race condition in Neutron initialization (policy loading)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:11 |
markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1208661 | 21:11 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1208661 in neutron "nova show command sometimes don't includes ip address" [Critical,In progress] | 21:11 |
markmcclain | salvatore and enikanorov-w having been working on 1216866 | 21:11 |
salv-orlando2 | Bug 1216866 has been trusted | 21:11 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1216866 in neutron "Race condition in Neutron initialization (policy loading)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216866 | 21:11 |
salv-orlando2 | Triaged | 21:11 |
salv-orlando2 | Fix will be pushed shortly | 21:11 |
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markmcclain | that's good to hear | 21:12 |
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nati_ueno | 1208661 is in still investigations. It looks like 15 rechecks now | 21:12 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for updating | 21:13 |
markmcclain | any other bugs the team should be tracking? | 21:13 |
wolfdreamer | As far as bugs masqeruading as features, has anybody seen this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1211513 | 21:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211513 in neutron "neutron.api.extensions should resolve full module path when importing extensions so that proper base class comparison is done" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:13 |
nati_ueno | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1211915 gets high failure rate in gating also | 21:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211915 in neutron "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Undecided,New] | 21:14 |
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markmcclain | wolfdreamer: I looked at it briefly, but have not had time to check into it further | 21:14 |
wolfdreamer | markmcclain, k thanks | 21:15 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: I'll add that the list of important bugs we're tracking | 21:16 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: Thanks | 21:16 |
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markmcclain | Any other bugs? | 21:16 |
markmcclain | #topic docs | 21:17 |
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markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:17 |
emagana | markmcclain: hi | 21:17 |
emagana | long list of bugs to fix but what is more important to start documenting the new features | 21:17 |
emagana | please, file Blueprints for any feature included in Havana | 21:19 |
markmcclain | yeah.. we're tracking fwaas, vpnass, and ml2 | 21:19 |
markmcclain | we can work offline to make sure we've got a more complete list | 21:19 |
emagana | markmcclain: sure! nothing else to report | 21:19 |
emagana | markmcclain: Almost forget about it... | 21:20 |
markmcclain | We've got two items currently in review. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/netconn-api,n,z | 21:20 |
markmcclain | when folks have change look at salv-orlando2 and pcm_ proposed docs | 21:20 |
emagana | We may need to create a new section for all services, the way it is now could be confusing for readers | 21:20 |
pcm_ | yes please do; https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41702/ | 21:20 |
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markmcclain | emagana: let's discuss offline with annegentle and see what direction we should take | 21:21 |
annegentle | also please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42624/ | 21:21 |
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annegentle | I'm here | 21:21 |
markmcclain | annegentle: hi | 21:21 |
emagana | markmcclain: sounds good! | 21:21 |
annegentle | also happy to talk later | 21:21 |
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markmcclain | annegentle: ok.. let chat real quick after the meeting is over if you're around | 21:22 |
markmcclain | Skipping the API this week because there's nothing to report | 21:22 |
markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:23 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: hi | 21:23 |
nati_ueno | OK client is approved. | 21:23 |
markmcclain | cool | 21:23 |
markmcclain | tried to ping you earlier because I wanted to confirm that if we select strongswan we can get rid of the wrapper correct? | 21:24 |
nati_ueno | there is four patches. Driver impl, status update, OpenSwan support, service type framework support | 21:24 |
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markmcclain | or is it openswan that does not need the wrapper | 21:24 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: its openswan | 21:24 |
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nati_ueno | markmcclain: so you prefer to choose openswan and remove the ns wrapper? | 21:25 |
markmcclain | my preference is to support only openswan | 21:25 |
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markmcclain | so that we get RHEL and centos | 21:25 |
markmcclain | and don't have a wrapper | 21:25 |
salv-orlando2 | I think at this stage we should release Havana with the same f2f eat choice | 21:25 |
salv-orlando2 | Which looks like it's openswan | 21:25 |
nati_ueno | ok if so, I'll merge drvier impl and status update and openswan, and remove strongswan support | 21:25 |
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markmcclain | I think that is the simplest approach | 21:26 |
nati_ueno | gotcha | 21:26 |
pcm_ | There minor changes to limits in plugin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43559/1 | 21:26 |
markmcclain | maybe in the next 6mos we can get someone to contribute an upstream fix for strongswan | 21:26 |
salv-orlando2 | Safest often is simplest too | 21:26 |
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nati_ueno | OK Thanks. That's all from vpnaas | 21:27 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for the update | 21:28 |
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markmcclain | #topic nova | 21:28 |
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markmcclain | garyk: hi | 21:28 |
garyk | markmcclain: hi | 21:28 |
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garyk | no updates on this front | 21:28 |
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markmcclain | ok.. now that we're in a stability focus should we get some team members to focus on the bugs you've listed? | 21:29 |
markmcclain | bug 1192287 | 21:29 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1192287 in nova "Creating server did not fail when exceeded Quantum quota limit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1192287 | 21:29 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: what is the status of bug 1112912 | 21:30 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1112912 in neutron "get_firewall_required should use VIF parameter from quantum" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1112912 | 21:30 |
garyk | arosen had ideas regarding this one but if i recall correctly the guys in the community did not like moving the checks. | 21:30 |
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markmcclain | ok | 21:30 |
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nati_ueno | markmcclain: Ah sorry it is slipped on my task list. I'll rebase the code | 21:31 |
garyk | i think that nati_ueno has a patch for that (unless i am mistaken)\ | 21:31 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: ok | 21:31 |
nati_ueno | garyk: yes. I rebased it in two week ago, | 21:31 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: Ah but it needes nova side support | 21:31 |
markmcclain | Any other nova items? | 21:31 |
garyk | markmcclain: nope | 21:31 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: do we have proposed code for the nova side or do we need to have someone work on it | 21:32 |
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nati_ueno | markmcclain: I'll write the nova side code, but I should check nova side FFE policy. Do they think this is a bug or not | 21:32 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: I'll check this with Russel | 21:32 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: sounds good | 21:33 |
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markmcclain | garyk: thanks for the update | 21:33 |
markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:33 |
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markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 21:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | CLI patch for commit operation was posted by RajeshMohan (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43249/) | 21:33 |
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SumitNaiksatam | the API patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41353) is waiting for more reviews | 21:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | (one of the three salvatores here can review it? :-)) | 21:34 |
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markmcclain | haha | 21:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | there was some review activity on the devstack patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37147/) and is ready for approval in my opinion | 21:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | the Horizon patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38724/) hasn't had any review activity in the past week | 21:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | I also submitted a FWaaS patch for Heat (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43357/) | 21:34 |
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salv3 | I Havana not yet performed a full review but I have been . Looking for similar | 21:34 |
salv3 | Approaches in restful PAId | 21:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | salv3: thanks | 21:35 |
salv3 | Apis | 21:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | other than that FWaaS team is running tests, filling and fixing bugs | 21:35 |
markmcclain | garyk: would you mind taking a look at the devstack patch SumitNaiksatam referenced? | 21:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: garyk is on it | 21:36 |
markmcclain | great! | 21:36 |
salv3 | So far I could not find anything similar. Probably because keeping state across requests is not restful at all. But I am not sure if I am saying something stupid here | 21:36 |
garyk | SumitNaiksatam: i have +2'ed. you addresed my concerns. Thanks! | 21:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | garyk: thanks! | 21:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | salv3: ok | 21:36 |
salv3 | But I will perform a full code review so we can resumes the discussion from there | 21:37 |
SumitNaiksatam | salv3: thanks | 21:37 |
markmcclain | salv3: thanks for looking at it | 21:37 |
SumitNaiksatam | any other thoughts/comments/questions on FWaaS (else I am done) | 21:37 |
amotoki | Related to Horizon (or Heat), we need to release CLI. Any release plan? | 21:37 |
markmcclain | amotoki: I can release contact me offline | 21:38 |
markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for the update | 21:38 |
markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:38 |
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amotoki | markmcclain: thanks. | 21:38 |
enikanorov_ | hi | 21:38 |
enikanorov_ | anything we've planned for lbaas is on review | 21:38 |
enikanorov_ | two major patches are blocked by policy loading issue | 21:38 |
markmcclain | service types is the major item remaining right? | 21:39 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: amotoki: could you please wait vpnaas client is merged? (It should be merged in few hours) | 21:39 |
enikanorov_ | but others are ready for review and are not very big | 21:39 |
enikanorov_ | markmcclain: right | 21:39 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: yes… I'm also going to look in the backlog to see if there are any other items to include as well | 21:39 |
enikanorov_ | vpnaas patch is also blocked by the same issue as it is dependent on my patch | 21:39 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: Thanks | 21:39 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: I'll take a fresh look at the service types later today | 21:40 |
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markmcclain | Any questions for LBaaS? | 21:40 |
markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:40 |
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salv-orlando | hi folks. I changed again my identity! | 21:40 |
rkukura | the key BPs made the deadline: portbinding, mult-segment-api, several mechanism drivers | 21:40 |
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rkukura | we've got work to do to get them all merged | 21:41 |
markmcclain | rkukura: looks like we had a few vendors drivers submitted too | 21:41 |
markmcclain | that's good news | 21:41 |
rkukura | markmcclain: definitely! | 21:41 |
rkukura | one new BP/patch today may be candidate for an exception | 21:42 |
rkukura | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-mechanism-driver-subnet-calls | 21:42 |
markmcclain | ok.. I'll start a thread on the ML, but I'd like to make ML2 the default for open source plugin for Havana | 21:42 |
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rkukura | This was a TODO that I though would get treated as a bug - its pretty much boiler plate competing the driver API | 21:42 |
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rkukura | Big question is how to go about getting ml2 into gating? | 21:43 |
emagana | markmcclain: +1 | 21:43 |
markmcclain | once ml2 becomes the default for devstack | 21:43 |
markmcclain | it will be the gate | 21:44 |
markmcclain | let's solicit input from the wider community this week | 21:44 |
rkukura | so do we want to just make it the default, or do we want to start gating on it 1st, then switch default? | 21:44 |
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markmcclain | and then next week we can finalize the switch details | 21:44 |
rkukura | OK | 21:44 |
markmcclain | might make sense to gate first, but I don't want to change until after Tuesday | 21:45 |
markmcclain | we can work with the infra folks to ensure the change goes smoothly | 21:45 |
markmcclain | Anything else for ML2? | 21:45 |
rkukura | not from me | 21:45 |
markmcclain | rkukura: thanks for the update | 21:45 |
markmcclain | #topic Horizon | 21:45 |
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markmcclain | amotoki: hi | 21:45 |
amotoki | hi | 21:45 |
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markmcclain | How are things on the Horizon front? | 21:46 |
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amotoki | fwaas, vpnaas are good progress. | 21:46 |
amotoki | i am reviewing the last round. | 21:46 |
markmcclain | good news | 21:46 |
markmcclain | we just need a client released for them | 21:46 |
amotoki | i have no concern abou them. | 21:46 |
amotoki | I will check quota bugs from now. | 21:47 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:47 |
markmcclain | Anything else to add? | 21:47 |
amotoki | nothing from me. | 21:47 |
markmcclain | amotoki: thanks for updating | 21:47 |
markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:47 |
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gongysh | can someone help review multihost patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37919/ | 21:47 |
enikanorov_ | I have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38230/ - "allowed address pairs" | 21:47 |
markmcclain | gongysh: looks like we've got 4 cores on it | 21:48 |
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enikanorov_ | some folks from my company expect this feature to be added | 21:48 |
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emagana | gongysh: I will be review it | 21:48 |
markmcclain | and there are outstanding concerns on the current version | 21:48 |
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gongysh | emagana has an opinion which needs community to address. | 21:48 |
enikanorov_ | but corresponding bp is not approved yet. Can we expect it to land in havana? | 21:48 |
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emagana | gongysh: however, I want to know if the team is ok having this as an extension or a default operation like in nova-network | 21:49 |
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gongysh | emagana: even in nova-network, admin needs to specify the --multihost=true in api to create a multihosted network. | 21:49 |
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markmcclain | I'm concerned about changing a well established API | 21:50 |
emagana | gongysh: let's move the discussion to ML | 21:50 |
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markmcclain | +1 to moving to ML | 21:50 |
gongysh | emagana: I am not sure if I follow your idea. | 21:50 |
gongysh | ok to ML | 21:50 |
markmcclain | Any other open discussion items? | 21:51 |
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enikanorov_ | yeah ^^ | 21:51 |
dkehn | amotoki, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30447/ | 21:51 |
amotoki | dkehn: this week is a review week :-) | 21:52 |
dkehn | amotoki, ok | 21:52 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: you have something new or ok with moving discussion to ML? | 21:52 |
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salv-orlando2 | Using yet another nick | 21:52 |
nati_uen_ | Which multi process patch we will use? | 21:52 |
enikanorov_ | well, it's not quite a discussion, it's a question about the blueprint, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/allowed-address-pairs | 21:52 |
salv-orlando2 | I suffer from multiple personalities syndrome | 21:53 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: that's what this time is for | 21:53 |
markmcclain | ask away | 21:53 |
enikanorov_ | it's not approved, but the code was proposed a month ago | 21:53 |
enikanorov_ | so I'm asking is there chances it will land in H-3 | 21:53 |
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markmcclain | enikanorov_: oops.. it's now approved :) | 21:53 |
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enikanorov_ | cool. That's wat i've expected :) | 21:54 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: the BP admin UI is not the greatest | 21:55 |
markmcclain | Ok.. we did a really good job of getting the code submitted on time | 21:55 |
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markmcclain | Have a great week and let's get some code reviewed | 21:56 |
markmcclain | #endmeeting | 21:56 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:56 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 26 21:56:27 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-26-21.04.html | 21:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-26-21.04.txt | 21:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-26-21.04.log.html | 21:56 |
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garyk | good night guys | 21:56 |
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salv-orlando2 | Adieuuuuu | 21:56 |
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ivar-lazzaro | good night | 21:57 |
enikanorov_ | bye | 21:57 |
jackmccann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40716/ needs one more core for approval | 21:57 |
emagana | markmcclain and annegentle: do you want to discuss docs now? | 21:57 |
annegentle | emagana: sure if it's quick :) | 21:57 |
markmcclain | yes | 21:57 |
annegentle | traffic is bearing down here :) | 21:57 |
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nati_ueno | bye! | 21:57 |
emagana | just want to get your input in moving all services related in neutron to a different section | 21:58 |
emagana | LBaaS, VPNaaS, FWaaS | 21:58 |
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annegentle | yeah I was wondering how to handle those too | 21:58 |
annegentle | I'd like to put those in the config reference if possible | 21:58 |
emagana | If you are ok with that I can start the section and the rest of devs can fill up the subsectiopns | 21:58 |
annegentle | emagana: there's a fairly new "config reference" | 21:59 |
annegentle | emagana: and we're trying to piece out most of the admin guides | 21:59 |
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annegentle | emagana: so is this info config info or usage for end-users or something else? | 21:59 |
emagana | ok, I am still have some questions about the changes on docs, will send you an email about it | 21:59 |
emagana | markmcclain: will send you also an email with the proposed outline for neutron guide | 22:00 |
emagana | sounds good? | 22:00 |
emagana | annegentle: it is both! | 22:00 |
markmcclain | emagana: sounds good to me | 22:00 |
emagana | config info and end-user usage | 22:00 |
annegentle | emagana: yeah seems like both is needed but I'm letting you know there are two "books" for that info | 22:01 |
markmcclain | makes sense the information in the config guide | 22:01 |
annegentle | emagana: yeah let me know if you can't find the right homes for the info | 22:01 |
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emagana | annegentle: ok | 22:01 |
emagana | Thanks Guys! | 22:01 |
annegentle | emagana: thank YOU! | 22:02 |
markmcclain | annegentle: thanks for hanging around to discuss | 22:02 |
annegentle | markmcclain: sure thing | 22:02 |
gongysh | markmcclain: | 22:02 |
annegentle | heading out into traffic! :) | 22:02 |
gongysh | the multihost patch is on FFE list? | 22:02 |
markmcclain | the multihos patch made it before the feature proposal freeze | 22:02 |
gongysh | ok, thanks | 22:02 |
markmcclain | if the code does not merge by next week's meeting we can discuss an FFE | 22:03 |
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gongysh | markmcclain: can u help to give some time to read the emagana's comment on that patch? | 22:03 |
markmcclain | ok.. heading out | 22:03 |
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gongysh | thanks | 22:04 |
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wolfdreamer | Not sure if its to late for Neutron stuff (docs related), but I opened this bug 1215018 last week | 22:05 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1215018 in neutron "All the Namespace urls for the current extensions return 404" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215018 | 22:05 |
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