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| garyk | guys around for the scheduler meeting? | 15:00 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | yes | 15:00 |
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| alaski | I'm here | 15:01 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: lets give them a few more minutes to join | 15:01 |
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| garyk | alaski: hi | 15:01 |
| alaski | hi | 15:01 |
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| garyk | #startmeeting scheduling | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 15:03:34 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is garyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scheduling)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scheduling' | 15:03 |
| garyk | hope that people are around to discuss | 15:03 |
| garyk | #topic summit sessions | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit sessions (Meeting topic: scheduling)" | 15:04 | |
| garyk | Does anyone have any additional comments or updates to https://etherpad.openstack.org/IceHouse-Nova-Scheduler-Sessions | 15:04 |
| MikeSpreitzer | yes | 15:05 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: ok, is that what you want to discuss later in the meeting or something else? | 15:05 |
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| Yathi | Debo and I added a topic called Smart Resource Placement.. and we have added a blueprint | 15:06 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Can I start with a clarification on the whole host allocation part... | 15:06 |
| garyk | Yathi: thanks! | 15:06 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: what would you like clarification on? | 15:06 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: Sure. Unless people want to discuss something else regarding the proposed summit sessions | 15:06 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Is whole host allocation about bare metal allocation , really exclusive allocation, or is it about some bigger unit of allocation (pool)? | 15:06 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: It's not about baremtal. It's about allocation to host aggregates essentially | 15:07 |
| alaski | host aggregates will be set aside for exclusive use by a tenant, or delegated tenants | 15:08 |
| MikeSpreitzer | It is about giving one tenant control over a whole host aggregate, right? | 15:08 |
| alaski | yes | 15:08 |
| MikeSpreitzer | So it is about this larger unit of allocation. | 15:08 |
| alaski | yep | 15:08 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Why do we want that? | 15:09 |
| garyk | performance and isolation may be motivations | 15:10 |
| alaski | There are customer requests for this type of allocation. I've heard it's for concerns about resource isolation and somewhat for security concerns, though that's questionable | 15:10 |
| garyk | security too | 15:10 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Performance and isolation can be delivered by requesting performance and isolation from one undivided cloud, letting that cloud decide where to place for performance and isolation. | 15:11 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | Same thing for security, really. | 15:12 |
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| alaski | that's kind of what this is doing | 15:13 |
| alaski | host aggregates just help the cloud decide where to place instances | 15:13 |
| garyk | it is allowing the tenant to run their instances on specific resources that may be reserved for that specific tenants | 15:13 |
| MikeSpreitzer | That sounds like AZ functionality. | 15:14 |
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| garyk | in my opinion it is just another option that is available that enables the cloud provider to meet certain standards. | 15:15 |
| MikeSpreitzer | My point here is that a holistic scheduler that is aware of isolation issues could place for isolation, without having a separate feature for dividing up the cloud a-priori. | 15:15 |
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| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: that's likely the case, though how does it ensure that there remains enough spots to ensure isolation is possible? | 15:16 |
| garyk | i agree with you on that. but why not have the option of allocating a whole host? | 15:16 |
| MikeSpreitzer | ALaski: yes,... | 15:16 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | (thinking on my feet here...) | 15:17 |
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| alaski | But whole host allocation is very early right now. I know it's going to be the topic of a lot of discussion so alternative ideas are appreciated | 15:17 |
| MikeSpreitzer | OK, I'll stop here. I understand. | 15:17 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: please feel free to take your questions or reservations to the lists or bring them up here. | 15:18 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Next session. For multiple scheduler policies, what sort of differences are involved? | 15:18 |
| garyk | One point that come up at the Neutron meeting last night and I am not sure if it is relevant here is that people wanted to work only with etherpads at the summit and 'ban' presentations. | 15:19 |
| garyk | glikson you around? | 15:19 |
| alaski | I like the idea. I think it's good for us to think about but probably a topic for the Nova meeting | 15:19 |
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| garyk | ok. | 15:20 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: alex is not here to elaborate. | 15:20 |
| MikeSpreitzer | OK, I'll pursue that separately | 15:20 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Is Boris Pavlovic here? | 15:20 |
| garyk | I think that it enables different scheduling policies to be invoked for different requests. That is, not have one global configuration | 15:20 |
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| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: not sure. | 15:21 |
| garyk | Are there any additional things we want to discuss regarding the summit sessions? | 15:21 |
| alaski | boris is boris_42. Doesn't look like he's here | 15:21 |
| garyk | he is currently driving a rally | 15:22 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I see significant overlap between the "Scheduling across Services" session proposal and the "Smart Resource Placement" session proposal. | 15:22 |
| garyk | Yathi: do you think there is overlap here? | 15:22 |
| garyk | I think that there may be room for some collaboration here. | 15:23 |
| Yathi | Smart Resource Placement provides a generic framework to allow for complex constraints | 15:23 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | Yathi: between resources of different types? | 15:23 |
| Yathi | yes that is part of our idea | 15:24 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | Isn't that the essence of Scheduling Across Services? | 15:24 |
| Yathi | i guess this framework is something that can be leveraged | 15:25 |
| Yathi | to build complex constraints that run across services | 15:25 |
| garyk | It is in a sense and it is something that we touched on at the last summit but we did not make any progress with this | 15:25 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Anyway, I think I am just suggesting they go in the same session. | 15:25 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I suppose I am also suggesting the proponents talk to each other and see about a merge beforehand. | 15:26 |
| Yathi | scheduling across services calls for orchestration framework | 15:26 |
| Yathi | smart scheduling provides a pluggable solver framework | 15:26 |
| MikeSpreitzer | um, anything calls for orchestration. What exactly do you mean? | 15:27 |
| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: agreed. that is why we are discussing this now to try and be more efficient when it comes to the summit | 15:27 |
| Yathi | trying to separate orchestration between services and decision making framework | 15:27 |
| Yathi | that is what I meant | 15:28 |
| MikeSpreitzer | OK, no surprise there. The u-rpm proposal also has this, as does my group's running code. | 15:28 |
| garyk | #action consider combining "smart resource placement" and "multiple scheuler policies" to one session | 15:28 |
| MikeSpreitzer | if I understand you correctly | 15:28 |
| garyk | Anything else regarding summit or can we move to the resource tracking? | 15:29 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I'm done | 15:30 |
| garyk | #topic resource tracking | 15:30 |
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| alaski | I brought this up last time | 15:30 |
| garyk | alaski: do you want to explain your ideas. last week we touched on it but the meeting was ending | 15:30 |
| alaski | So my main idea is that I think it would be helpful to persist the resource tracker off of the compute node | 15:31 |
| alaski | And have it be remotely accessible by other components, like conductor | 15:31 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | What does the tracker do? | 15:32 |
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| alaski | My thinking being that I want to speed up scheduling so I want to get a host from the scheduler and then consult the resource tracker quickly without having to roundtrip to the compute | 15:32 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: the resource tracker is the definitive source of what resources are available/used on a compute | 15:32 |
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| alaski | definitive in Nova I mean | 15:33 |
| MikeSpreitzer | Really definitive, or a convenient cache? | 15:33 |
| alaski | As definitive as we get in Nova, it could still mismatch reality a bit | 15:33 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | I would expect the hypervisor is the definitive source regarding what is actually being used now. | 15:33 |
| garyk | alaski: in some cases there is querying from the db, would that be replaced by interfacing with the conductor instead? | 15:33 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: you're correct, so in that sense it is a cache | 15:34 |
| MikeSpreitzer | This is where the distinction between what I call observed and target state matters... | 15:34 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | The observed state is a convenient cache of the real state, and the target state is about allocations that may or may not be in effect right now. | 15:34 |
| alaski | garyk: I'm not sure where the db queries are, so i don't know. But possibly | 15:35 |
| garyk | alaski: cold this be related to the changes that boris and co are doing with the messages (i have yet to look at that code) | 15:36 |
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| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: I have your emails flagged and need to read those thoroughly. I think we all want to move in a similar direction and need to figure out how to come together | 15:36 |
| MikeSpreitzer | The read of nova's DB, in preference to (cache of) read from hypervisors, would be to get target state. | 15:36 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | Yes, I am also trying to catch up on the other work here and help figure out how to bring it all together. | 15:37 |
| alaski | garyk: possibly, in the sense of using the same pattern for setting it up. But resource tracker and scheduler are separate entities so it's not likely to be touched by his work | 15:37 |
| garyk | the complexity is being able to sync all schedulers | 15:37 |
| garyk | alaski: ok, understood | 15:38 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | garyk: I wonder which multiplicity you are referring to. Different services, or different cells/regions/... ? | 15:38 |
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| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: i am trying to understand how the conductor(s) will manage the data and enable the scheduler(s) to access and use it | 15:39 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | (I need to learn what a conductor is) | 15:40 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | garyk: I am still wondering which multiplicity of scheduler you are referring to. | 15:40 |
| alaski | garyk: the way I'm looking at it, the conductor queries the scheduler for a host or list of hosts, then it consults the resource tracker to make sure the instance will fit on that host | 15:41 |
| MikeSpreitzer | garyk: I do not know what you meant by "the changes that boris and co are doing with the messages"… can you identify another way? | 15:41 |
| alaski | Right now we have to send the build to the compute host before it can fail the resource tracker check. I want it to fail faster | 15:41 |
| glikson | alaski: wouldn't scheduler already check the available capacity? or you are suggesting to separate the two? | 15:41 |
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| alaski | glikson: I think they're already separate. TBH I don't know everythng that the scheduler looks at, I should dig into that a bit | 15:42 |
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| alaski | But I know that sometimes an instance is scheduled to a host and then there's not actually enough free memory to build the instance | 15:43 |
| garyk | alaski: in that case it would go to recheduling. | 15:43 |
| glikson | alaski: that might happen because of race conditions between schedulers, for example.. | 15:43 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | alaski: I have had colleagues running clouds tell me that happens for a variety of reasons, mistakes/discrepencies are possible at every level | 15:44 |
| alaski | garyk: right. My main concern is optimizing it so the schedule/reschedule loop can be faster | 15:44 |
| garyk | i think that there is a over commit ratio that takes thing slike this into account (but may be wrong) | 15:44 |
| alaski | glikson: yes. My understanding is that scheduling is a best attempt fail fast setup. I want failure to be as fast as possible | 15:45 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | alaski: I'm with you on that... | 15:45 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | but every cache has lag and there can be a nasty surprise in rare cases. | 15:45 |
| garyk | alaski: is this something that will work with multiple conductors (sorry I am slow today) | 15:46 |
| glikson | alaski: so, are you thinking to keep that somewhere else than the DB, to keep better track of in-fly requests? | 15:46 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: true. It's worth me looking into what can go wrong. I guess I'm thinking of a write through type cache where lag shouldn't present itself, but I suppose it could | 15:47 |
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| garyk | at the moment the flow is api-> scheduler-> compute node | 15:47 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | only one scheduler can allocate on a compute node, I take it. | 15:47 |
| alaski | garyk: it would need to. Right now resource tracker has synchronization based on being on a single compute, but moving it off the compute means we need to address synchronization another way | 15:47 |
| alaski | glikson: right now resource tracker is in memory on the compute, I want it in a db or other store | 15:48 |
| garyk | alaski: ok | 15:48 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I have heard that when VM creation or deletion has a strange failure, a zombie can be left using memory that the scheduler does not realize exists. | 15:48 |
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| glikson | alaski: I thought it is already using the DB.. but maybe I'm confusing it with something else. | 15:49 |
| alaski | MikeSpreitzer: multiple schedulers can allocate to a compute. It's racy, but known to be racy, and the resource tracker is the control point | 15:49 |
| glikson | alaski: didn't we just move those updates from using rpc fanout to using the DB? | 15:50 |
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| garyk | alaski: it would be intersting to discuss the data structure for the resource tracking in more detail | 15:50 |
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| glikson | alaski: or are you talking about the part that generates those updates, at nova-compute? | 15:51 |
| alaski | glikson: I think we're talking about different things. But now you have me wondering if it's sending data up to the scheduler | 15:51 |
| alaski | glikson: it's possible. I'm talking about the part that runs instance_claim() to claim resources | 15:52 |
| alaski | but it may also be populating something for the scheduler to use | 15:52 |
| garyk | we may be running out of time. do we want to continue with this or switch to MikeSpreitzer mails and document? Would could discuss that next week as I am not sure many of us got to read https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hQQGHId-z1A5LOipnBXFhsU3VAMQdSe-UXvL4VPY4ps/edit | 15:53 |
| alaski | I say we switch. I think I need to research a bit more and come up with a more solid proposal | 15:53 |
| garyk | alaski: ok | 15:53 |
| garyk | #topic MikeSpreitzer's mail | 15:54 |
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| garyk | MikeSpreitzer: with the few minutes left | 15:54 |
| garyk | we can always continue next week | 15:54 |
| glikson | I also had a quick question regarding the proposal to consider merging multi-sched and smart-sched proposals, when I was away for few minutes.. | 15:54 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I am finding rough alignment between the u-rpm proposal and my group's work.. | 15:55 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | so I thought I would outline what we have worked out. | 15:55 |
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| garyk | glikson: MikeSpreitzer suggest that have them togertheer as there may be some overlap | 15:55 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I have not yet roadmapped to a set of small changes, just wanted some review of the overall vision. | 15:55 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | and hope to help out | 15:56 |
| garyk | glikson: i guess we can take it offline and discuss | 15:56 |
| Yathi | garyk, glikson, I think garyk meant smart-sched and 'scheduling across services' | 15:56 |
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| garyk | Yathi: yes, that is what I meant. sorry my bad | 15:56 |
| glikson | garyk: I think the two are complimentary -- one to introduce a new scheduler driver, and the second to have different driver configs co-exist within the same scheduler instance (regardless of which driver it is) | 15:56 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I think there is big overlap between those two session proposals and what I wrote about. | 15:57 |
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| garyk | I think that we should try and read what you have written an then discuss it next week. | 15:57 |
| MikeSpreitzer | OK | 15:58 |
| garyk | I guess we could also have some time to see what we can combine (if possible) | 15:58 |
| garyk | #action discuss MikeSpreitzer proposal next week | 15:58 |
| garyk | #action check if we can merge/combine sessions | 15:58 |
| glikson | yathu: ah, ok. I personally think those two are also complementary -- the optimization approach is rather orthogonal to the scope of the optimization problem to solve.. | 15:58 |
| MikeSpreitzer | I thought it was said that Smart Resource Placement is also about going across services | 15:59 |
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| MikeSpreitzer | Yathi: right? | 16:00 |
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| garyk | I am sorry but I guess we will have to continue next week. | 16:00 |
| garyk | thanks guys | 16:00 |
| garyk | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 16:00:36 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| MikeSpreitzer | thanks | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scheduling/2013/scheduling.2013-09-17-15.03.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scheduling/2013/scheduling.2013-09-17-15.03.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scheduling/2013/scheduling.2013-09-17-15.03.log.html | 16:00 |
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| alaski | thanks | 16:00 |
| Yathi | Sorry next week! | 16:00 |
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| Yathi | Mike, going across services provides a way for constructing complex constraints | 16:01 |
| Yathi | and complex optimization metrics | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | primeministerp: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 16:01:24 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| primeministerp | hi all | 16:01 |
| luis_fdez | hi | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | hey luis | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I just sent out the agenda | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: but you're high on my list | 16:02 |
| luis_fdez | hehe | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i've got resources to add on it, and they should be starting on itby the end of the week | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: so we need to touch base as to where all your refactoring is | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | and what needs to be addressed immediately | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | do you want to have the discussion now? | 16:03 |
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| luis_fdez | yeah, it's ok for me... as you wish | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | #topic puppet work | 16:03 |
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| primeministerp | so I know the vswitch parts are in place and you did work to clean up the part retrieval and python stack integration | 16:04 |
| luis_fdez | ok, the last PR I sent is the one that adds the creation of the service itself | 16:04 |
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| primeministerp | yes you moved it to sc | 16:04 |
| luis_fdez | yes, I have to test it | 16:04 |
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| primeministerp | so my guys should be testing it now | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | but I have to follow up | 16:04 |
| luis_fdez | I had problems iwth our puppet infra , but now itś fixe so I'll be albe to test it this week | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:05 |
| luis_fdez | aah , perfect also! | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | so also | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | I want to dedicate one of them towards building from source | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | starting at python | 16:05 |
| luis_fdez | ok, it's a good one | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdeso | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | er | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | so the python stack is complete | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | you're saying | 16:06 |
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| primeministerp | just needs to be tested | 16:06 |
| luis_fdez | yes, it can be improved (in terms of passing parameters more efficiently) but all the elements are there | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | sure | 16:06 |
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| luis_fdez | we can even start think about spliting | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | so I have been | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | i wanted to talk about a winlib | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | for functions | 16:06 |
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| primeministerp | that are common | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | across windows | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | or think of it | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | sorry | 16:07 |
| luis_fdez | like a "windows tool kit"module? | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | Hi guys | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | sorry, my Colloquy frooze | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | that's it | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | for example | 16:07 |
| luis_fdez | yes, I think it's a good idea | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | all the misc powershell tidbits | 16:07 |
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| primeministerp | at puppet conf I spoke w/ some guys who were doing a lot of powershell/puppet work | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | rather than having all these modules | 16:08 |
| luis_fdez | my point of view is that a lot of modules in the forge are to small (for windows case) | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | for powreshell commands | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | have one good one | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | w/ the most useful ones | 16:08 |
| luis_fdez | I agree | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | then | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | I want to start a thread | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | w/ the puppet folks | 16:08 |
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| primeministerp | and get thier buy in | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | bc i'm sure they have stuff they could add | 16:09 |
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| primeministerp | but basically i'm thinking powershell -> wintools? -> hyper-v | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | as a start | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | bc the base functionality | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | of some of that | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | can be moved | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | or integrated into other modules | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | additionally | 16:09 |
| luis_fdez | ok, yes | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | should things like ntp | 16:09 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | I'm here - sorry I was late | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | be moved into upstream ntp module | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | and add windows support | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | np rob | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | just talking puppet work | 16:10 |
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| luis_fdez | the ntp is in my todo list as I'd like to integrate at cern | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | perfect | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | i'm sure we have most | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | of it already | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | it's just matter of formalities | 16:10 |
| luis_fdez | there is also the vswitch forge moduel, I don't know if we could mix it easily | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | of moving the code and adding params | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | hmm | 16:11 |
| luis_fdez | is focuse in ovs but | 16:11 |
| luis_fdez | ... i dont know... | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | i say we keep that in the hyper-v module | 16:11 |
| luis_fdez | ok, better | 16:11 |
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| primeministerp | as it's specific to the hyper-v virtual switch | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | once we have the ovs work complete | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | maybe integrate w/ the upstream ovs module there | 16:11 |
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| primeministerp | however short term | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | let's move towards a common tools lib | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | virt functionality in the hyper-v module | 16:12 |
| luis_fdez | ok, I like the idea | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | including hyper-v virtual switch | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | I think as a rule | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | if the bits can be used in core windows | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | and not just hyper-v | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | put it in this tools module or something else | 16:13 |
| luis_fdez | yes, if the tools module gets big... we can split it again | 16:13 |
| luis_fdez | the python part is one that should be also reused | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | definately | 16:14 |
| luis_fdez | can we have a meeting by the end of the week in #openstack-hyper-v to coordinate also with the new resources? | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i would like to do that | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I was hoping at least tim would be on this one today | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | however there's still some rampup in progress so bare with us | 16:16 |
| luis_fdez | are they there at MS? | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'll schedule something for this week | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: yes | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | all ms | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | people | 16:17 |
| luis_fdez | ok | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | 5 of us total | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | now | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | they are transitioning from the lis side of things | 16:17 |
| iben | wow! Congrats Peter - your team there is growing? | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | it has | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:18 |
| iben | that's a great validation of what we're doing! | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: what time works for you | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | iben: there's validation coming from all over the place ;) | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: our biggest issue is they are in redmond | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: so time zones can be difficult | 16:19 |
| luis_fdez | ummm what time is there now? | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: so it's noon on 12:20pm in cambridge and 9:20 in redmond | 16:19 |
| luis_fdez | wops... | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | that's 9:20am | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | what works best for you | 16:20 |
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| primeministerp | i'll get them to attend | 16:20 |
| luis_fdez | the same time as the meeting is ok? later? | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | let's shoot for that | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | tomorrow work? | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | or thurs? | 16:21 |
| luis_fdez | I'm already at home but it's not a problem... meeting with sleepers is always confortable | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:21 |
| luis_fdez | tomorrow? ok | 16:21 |
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| primeministerp | sounds good, I'm going to send out a meeting request to the group involved | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:22 |
| luis_fdez | perfect | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | one more thing related to this | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | what should we call it | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | the common module | 16:22 |
| luis_fdez | windows_common? windows_toolkit? | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | windows_common | 16:23 |
| luis_fdez | ok | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | sounds good | 16:23 |
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| primeministerp | ok | 16:23 |
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| primeministerp | let's move on | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ping | 16:24 |
| luis_fdez | ok | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: do you have anything else to cover | 16:24 |
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| alexpilotti | primeministerp: hey | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: before we do | 16:24 |
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| luis_fdez | not... well, just one more thing.... | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: one sec | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: shoot | 16:24 |
| luis_fdez | is your talk at puppetconf already available online? hehe | 16:24 |
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| primeministerp | o | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | one sec | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | i'll find the url | 16:25 |
| luis_fdez | thanks :) | 16:25 |
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| primeministerp | #link http://puppetlabs.com/presentations/using-puppet-deploying-hyper-v-openstack-compute-nodes | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:26 |
| luis_fdez | ok, I'm done | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ready | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: you wanted to discussion 2012r2 | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: oki | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | #topic 2012r2 | 16:27 |
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| alexpilotti | just a quick note on the fact that 2012 R2 RTM is out | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | we updated the installer for 2012 R2 and we are doing heavy testing | 16:27 |
| schwicht | alexpilotti: I thought we need new APIs to support R2 ? | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | additionally, ceilometer works at bed on 2012R2 | 16:27 |
| schwicht | (hi) | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | schwicht: hi there | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | schwicht: we did the work | 16:28 |
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| alexpilotti | schwicht: we have them | 16:28 |
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| schwicht | contained in Havana? | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | yes | 16:28 |
| schwicht | wow | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | we plan also to back port the Havana driver to Grizzly | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | outside of the tree of course | 16:28 |
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| schwicht | alexpilotti: Havana is fine for us ... | 16:29 |
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| alexpilotti | so, Hyper-V 2012R2 has some additional metrics for disk I/O that are not available in 2012 | 16:29 |
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| alexpilotti | Ceilometer uses them | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: good work btw | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | we're also updating the installer to add the Ceilometer agent | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | tx! | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: does that help you guys now? | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: the celometer support? | 16:30 |
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| luis_fdez | yeah of course, it's great alexpilotti | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | Ceilometer was largely done by claudiub, one of our guys @cloudbase | 16:30 |
| luis_fdez | the linux side is already running ceiloemeter | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: perfect | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | I mean, the Ceilometer Hyper-V stuff | 16:31 |
| luis_fdez | having it for windows will be perfect :) | 16:31 |
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| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: we'd love some help on testing Ceilometer with Hyper-V ;-) | 16:31 |
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| luis_fdez | ok alexpilotti, I'll do my test to have time to do it, :) | 16:32 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: thanks luis_fdez | 16:32 |
| alexpilotti | lol, lapsus? | 16:32 |
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| alexpilotti | s/test/best/ I assume :-) | 16:32 |
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| luis_fdez | hehe yes | 16:32 |
| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: tx, looking forward to hear from you :-) | 16:33 |
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| alexpilotti | primeministerp: we have a new commit going in today | 16:33 |
| alexpilotti | Hyper-V agent API support in Neutron | 16:33 |
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| alexpilotti | it's necessary for ML2 | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | that's why it's marked as bug and it will get into H-RC1 | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: o good | 16:34 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: for some reason I thought it was already in | 16:35 |
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| alexpilotti | nope, we were testing all the possible combinations | 16:35 |
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| primeministerp | great | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | btw | 16:36 |
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| primeministerp | schwicht: great job on the snapshot bug fix | 16:36 |
| schwicht | I will tell them | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | schwicht: please do | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31228/ | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | yeah, thanks schwicht! | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | it took a bit but it looks good now | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | I reviewed it, we have a +2, we miss the last one | 16:38 |
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| primeministerp | do we have anything else to cover? | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | zehicle_at_dell: anything you want to add | 16:39 |
| luis_fdez | one question | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: yes | 16:39 |
| zehicle_at_dell | no, I'm ok | 16:40 |
| luis_fdez | alexpilotti, console/rdp access? what's the status ? I saw some bits under review | 16:40 |
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| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: they didn't manage to review it in time | 16:40 |
| alexpilotti | actually there's a lot of discussion on management issues on this release for Nova, but that's another topic | 16:41 |
| luis_fdez | is it feasible to test it in a grizzly deployment? | 16:41 |
| alexpilotti | sure the code is complete, it can be backported | 16:42 |
| luis_fdez | ok, thanks! I'll add it to my "teststack" | 16:42 |
| alexpilotti | can you send me an email, I'm going to point you to the right repo | 16:42 |
| luis_fdez | ok, perfect, I'll ping you when I have time for it | 16:43 |
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| primeministerp | great | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | anything else? | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | schwicht: zehicle_at_dell iben ? | 16:43 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp, | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: yep | 16:44 |
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| luis_fdez | I'm also working in a simple puppet module to deploy a flume agent on windows... we are using it now to send the compute logs | 16:44 |
| zehicle_at_dell | no other issues | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | hmm | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | flume? | 16:45 |
| primeministerp | you have a link never heard of it | 16:45 |
| luis_fdez | http://flume.apache.org/ | 16:45 |
| luis_fdez | for monitoring... we are sending logs to HDFS, elasticsearch... and you can take a look and query it with kibana dashboard... | 16:45 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: are you only sending compute? or eventlogs as well | 16:46 |
| luis_fdez | only compute log now | 16:46 |
| primeministerp | when you get there | 16:46 |
| primeministerp | i've been using some code out of google summer of code project | 16:46 |
| primeministerp | evt2syslog | 16:46 |
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| primeministerp | i belive is the name | 16:46 |
| luis_fdez | ok, I'll take a look to it | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: let's talk more about this | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I may be into using flume as well | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I just started eyeing log solutions | 16:47 |
| luis_fdez | this combination is like the open alternative to splunk... | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | yeah looks like that | 16:48 |
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| primeministerp | ok | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | if that's it | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | i'll end it | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | going once | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | . | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | 2x | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 16:49:51 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-09-17-16.01.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-09-17-16.01.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-09-17-16.01.log.html | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | thanks everyone | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: expect some emails coming | 16:50 |
| luis_fdez | hehe, ok! | 16:50 |
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| dolphm | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | hey | 18:00 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:00 |
| ayoung | Keystone! | 18:00 |
| fabio | hi | 18:00 |
| dolphm | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:00 |
| atiwari | hi | 18:01 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: gyee: dstanek: o/ | 18:01 |
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| morganfainberg | o/ | 18:01 |
| dolphm | not sure who was here before i joined :P | 18:01 |
| dolphm | #startmeeting keystone | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 18:01:48 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:01 |
| topol | Hi | 18:01 |
| dolphm | i assume we'll spend most of the meeting time talking about havana RC blockers in review -- so let me cover the one unique thing on the agenda first... | 18:02 |
| dolphm | #topic python-keystoneclient v0.3.3 | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | packagers tend to ship whatever client version is available at the time of the release of services... so i want to do a last minute release of keystoenclient before havana ships | 18:03 |
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| dolphm | it looks like it'll mostly be a bugfix release with some refactoring under the hood | 18:03 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, you awake yet? it is your favorite topic | 18:03 |
| jamielennox | sounds good to me | 18:03 |
| dolphm | but if there are any significant reviews that should make v0.3.3, ping me or target them to that milestone | 18:04 |
| bknudson | anything that needs to get in before havana? | 18:04 |
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| dolphm | there's lots of nice-to-haves in review, but i don't want to hold up v0.3.3 for any of them | 18:04 |
| henrynash | for reference, what is the state of v3 support in it? Just auth, I assume? | 18:04 |
| ayoung | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-keystoneclient,n,z | 18:04 |
| dolphm | (that i'm aware of) | 18:04 |
| jamielennox | everything i've got left is fairly major and not a reason to wait for a release | 18:05 |
| ayoung | how about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46999/ | 18:05 |
| dolphm | happy to do a v0.3.4 in a few weeks, but i wanted to get one more out the door asap | 18:05 |
| ayoung | seems like that will effect the packaging | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | I would argue that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35403/ would be great if we could get that one resolved today. | 18:05 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that will definitely be new for ksc | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | but i don't see any that are absolutely needed. | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46889/ looks like a good one, too | 18:06 |
| bknudson | why send a blank email? | 18:06 |
| bknudson | --email "" ? | 18:07 |
| stevemar | i think they mean attribute | 18:07 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's dependent on this change, though https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40703/6/keystoneclient/middleware/auth_token.py | 18:07 |
| ayoung | ok, we can punt on that one.... | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, right. | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | so then lets not worry | 18:07 |
| dolphm | #topic Code reviews for havana bugs | 18:08 |
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| ayoung | agreed | 18:08 |
| jamielennox | dolphm, i haven't seen that babel issue, but if he's correct that should go in prior to release | 18:08 |
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| dolphm | this is gating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45584/ | 18:08 |
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| jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46999/ | 18:08 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: which means this should be rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/ | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yep, i'll have that rebased after this meeting | 18:08 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: cool | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | i'll want some carefule eyes on it, henrynash and I touched some of the same code | 18:09 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i'll keep an eye out for it -- i'd love to have both gating today | 18:09 |
| ayoung | bugs are listed here https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-rc1 | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | i don't think there are any regressions, but.. worth extra eyes on it | 18:09 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: happy to help out | 18:09 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, did your domain patch go through? | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no, got yanked into more meetings. | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | today i can work on the pre-req, but we have open-topic stuff to cover for it (as per our conversation last night() | 18:10 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah...I think that I might have a work around on the DN composition...see this | 18:10 |
| dolphm | it looks like this is on track to land in havana? (cc: morganfainberg, henrynash) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45649/ | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that was what ayoung and i were just talking about. | 18:11 |
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| morganfainberg | but yes, i want that in Havana. | 18:11 |
| ayoung | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1210141/comments/4 | 18:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1210141 in keystone "LDAP identity provider fails when using samAccountName" [Medium,In progress] | 18:11 |
| ayoung | dolphm, BTW, I think the bug ^^ can be addressed by config file changes. | 18:12 |
| ayoung | which is also addressed in that comment. | 18:12 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: is the bug invalid, or do we need to make supporting documentation / test changes? | 18:13 |
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| bknudson | yes, we just need to document how to set up LDAP. | 18:14 |
| bknudson | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/ch_configuring-openstack-identity.html | 18:14 |
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| gyee | \o | 18:15 |
| gyee | sorry I am late | 18:15 |
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| dolphm | shouldn't user_id_attribute = dn, and user_name_attribute = samAccountName ? | 18:16 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I think documentation change might be called for. It would not be obvious from the existing docs that this would work | 18:16 |
| dolphm | ayoung: sounds fair | 18:17 |
| dolphm | i'm going to lower priority and unblock from rc1 | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dolphm, you would think so, but the the id is the full dn...which might break HTTP spec. I haven't tested that yet. But if they are using samAccountName as the ID, then user_id_attribute is samAccountName | 18:18 |
| ayoung | agreed | 18:18 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i guess i meant havana, or post-havana (not today) | 18:18 |
| dolphm | ayoung: in *theory* | 18:18 |
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| dolphm | is this a dupe? bug 1226475 | 18:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226475 in keystone "Update user v2.0 does not automatically assign user on new tenantId" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226475 | 18:20 |
| dolphm | i know we just talked about this, but i couldn't find an existing bug | 18:20 |
| bknudson | dolphm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1201251 | 18:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1201251 in keystone "issues of updating user via keystone rest api" [Medium,In progress] | 18:21 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42826/ | 18:21 |
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| morganfainberg | This is partially related to the bug I'm working on. 1219739 | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | bug 1219739 | 18:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1219739 in keystone "Inconsistent use of tenant_id, tenantId, default_project_id across identity drivers for the User object/ref" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219739 | 18:22 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: so I think it's create that we are attacking that….do we need to do that now (e.g. for the domain fix) or is it just cleanup? | 18:23 |
| henrynash | (so I think it is great….) | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | ah. | 18:23 |
| bknudson | henrynash: the bug is that you create tenant_id with v2 but v3 expects default_project_id | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, that should be fixed with my changeset. | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | since i normalize tenantId and default_project_id everywhere | 18:24 |
| bknudson | there's another bug where you change tenant_id and you don't get added to the new tenant | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | in v3, right? | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | v2 seems to have that code already | 18:25 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: that's what this patch is doing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42826/22/keystone/identity/controllers.py | 18:25 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42826/22/keystone/identity/controllers.py | 18:25 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: quit reading my mind | 18:25 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: these bugs are nearly dupes, but i'm hesitant to mark them as such | 18:26 |
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| dolphm | mostly because the older one has a bunch of issues (and should really be filed as multiple bugs...) | 18:26 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: what code did you think v2 has already? | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, right. | 18:26 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, looking. because i was just working in there. | 18:26 |
| bknudson | dolphm: could have them add the new bug to the message. | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it has logic, just making it more role friendly | 18:27 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: I may have removed one of the few places where we checked for both tenantID vs PRojectID with my (merged) patch of: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45584/7 | 18:28 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/10/keystone/identity/controllers.py i was lifting logic up to the controller | 18:28 |
| morganfainberg | so some of the same fix is in my patchset in tenantId cleanup | 18:28 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: no question that your change makes things cleaner... | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, ah, i'll keep my eyes open for it | 18:29 |
| dolphm | so, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42826/ removes an authz check on an API method ... -2'd until that's fixed | 18:29 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I'd complained about that earlier, but this function calls add_user_to_project which does the same assert. | 18:29 |
| bknudson | sorry, calls update_user() | 18:29 |
| dolphm | bknudson: oh wow, i didn't realize it was calling another controller method | 18:30 |
| bknudson | dolphm: although I agree that shouldn't have made that change... I probably wouldn't have. | 18:30 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: it does look like your change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/10/keystone/identity/controllers.py does the same as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42826/22/keystone/identity/controllers.py | 18:31 |
| dolphm | bknudson: a comment or something would have been nice | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, right becasue i needed to lift the logic into the controller. i don't address v3, because the functionality wasn't there to begin with | 18:32 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's by design -- v3 is spec'd to not have that behavior | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, right. | 18:32 |
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| dolphm | chmouel: any chance you have a revision in the works for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45447/ | 18:36 |
| chmouel | dolphm: woops i have forgotten about this, let me update it by tomo | 18:37 |
| dolphm | chmouel: thank you :) | 18:37 |
| chmouel | dolphm: thanks reminding me ;) | 18:37 |
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| atiwari | any thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46123/5 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46589/6 | 18:39 |
| atiwari | ? | 18:39 |
| dolphm | atiwari: i was just looking at 46589 | 18:39 |
| dolphm | atiwari: it's not obvious that a KeyError would be raised by calling rule(), and unless that's part of it's documented API ... i suspect oslo will reject this change | 18:40 |
| atiwari | ok, it is change proposed for 46123 in OSLO | 18:40 |
| ayoung | atiwari, why are we getting key errors? | 18:40 |
| dolphm | ayoung: the comment in the except block explains how they could be produced | 18:41 |
| ayoung | I guess since our rules are written as "ors" this might be OK | 18:41 |
| bknudson | changes in openstack/common need to be pulled in from oslo | 18:41 |
| atiwari | ok, if there are two rules and while evaluation first there is not enough data in target | 18:41 |
| bknudson | we can't have keystone different here. | 18:41 |
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| atiwari | we should move to next | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ | 18:41 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ++, this is the same change proposed against oslo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46589/6/openstack/common/policy.py | 18:41 |
| atiwari | ayoung, yes | 18:41 |
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| lbragstad | bknudson: +1 | 18:42 |
| ayoung | atiwari, so we are saying these rules are Ored together, and only one of them needs to pass in order for the rule to allow access? | 18:42 |
| atiwari | that is correct | 18:42 |
| bknudson | oh, this is oslo already. | 18:42 |
| atiwari | if 1sr got failed we should moved to next | 18:42 |
| dolphm | anyone know who's core on oslo that would be most likely to review this change? | 18:42 |
| ayoung | atiwari, but the logic is written such that first failure short-circuits, no? | 18:42 |
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| topol | I always bug dims for oslo stuff | 18:43 |
| atiwari | no, first failure move one | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | dolphm: bnemec_ is core, so is dims | 18:43 |
| ayoung | dolphm, markmc is usually pretty on-top of opolicy changes | 18:43 |
| atiwari | look at the test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46589/6/tests/unit/test_policy.py | 18:43 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i want to say either markmc or dprince wrote the original policy impl in oslo | 18:44 |
| ayoung | atiwari, that is what I meant, first success short circuits... | 18:44 |
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| ayoung | ok...so the logic as is is safe, but the catching of the exception should be handled by the "or" logic, I think | 18:45 |
| ayoung | I thought there was a specific OR rule. | 18:45 |
| atiwari | yes, this while evaluating OR | 18:45 |
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| atiwari | class OrCheck(BaseCheck): | 18:46 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/policy.py#L423 | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I was thinking of this https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/policy.py#L338 | 18:47 |
| bknudson | ayoung: that's the keystone version... which seems a little different? | 18:48 |
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| atiwari | yes, that is what I am trying to mention in my comments | 18:48 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yeah, but just cuz we haven't synced in a few...I think it is time for policy to become its own libarary | 18:48 |
| henrynash | ayoung: we sync at the end of Grizzly... | 18:48 |
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| bknudson | atiwari: why is it just OrCheck, doesn't this apply to every rule? | 18:49 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i think we're way behind on syncing policy | 18:49 |
| atiwari | I dont think it should for AND | 18:49 |
| dolphm | bknudson: afaik, we've only ever sync'd it once, after it was originally added | 18:49 |
| bknudson | atiwari: AND should raise KeyError but OR shouldn't? | 18:49 |
| atiwari | correct | 18:49 |
| henrynash | dolphm: the policy engine? No, I synced it at the end of Grizzly | 18:50 |
| ayoung | so...key_error should just trigger a false, right? | 18:50 |
| * topol hard to argue with atiwari's argument. QED | 18:50 | |
| atiwari | A policy check that requires that at least one of a list of other | 18:50 |
| atiwari | checks returns True. | 18:50 |
| ayoung | atiwari, what rule was generating the key error? | 18:50 |
| atiwari | ok, in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46123/5 | 18:50 |
| atiwari | I am trying to make the target as the x-subject-token | 18:51 |
| atiwari | in case token is gone or revoked your target will have nothing | 18:51 |
| ayoung | atiwari, um...doesn't it need to be parsed first? | 18:51 |
| henrynash | atiwari: you can't have two substations in the same rule | 18:51 |
| bknudson | atiwari: seems like the check should be in https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/policy.py#L838 -- would return False if KeyError | 18:51 |
| ayoung | GenericCheck? | 18:51 |
| henrynash | atiwari: split it up like I did for the demain and project checks | 18:52 |
| atiwari | it did not get there | 18:52 |
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| ayoung | cred[self.kind] should be a get | 18:52 |
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| atiwari | you do not have enough info for GenericCheck | 18:52 |
| atiwari | you failed before GenericCheck | 18:53 |
| henrynash | dolphm: 7 mins to go….other Havana bugs we need to discss? | 18:53 |
| ayoung | atiwari, OK, lets continue this after meeting | 18:53 |
| atiwari | ok | 18:53 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'm looking! i don't see any standouts | 18:53 |
| dolphm | actually i was trying to figure out where babel is supposed to come from 1226736 | 18:54 |
| dolphm | bug 1226736 | 18:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226736 in python-keystoneclient "Missing dependency on babel" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226736 | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | dolphm: do you consider this a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1226132 or under the new feature category for notifications? | 18:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226132 in keystone "Keystone doesn't emit event notifications for domains" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | I can push something up with notifications implemented for domains if so | 18:54 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: i think it's a bit more complicated than it sounds -- because if you send a notification for a domain, you should also be sending notifications for all consmuming users & tenants | 18:54 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, nothing will be able to consume it this go round...icehouse IMO | 18:55 |
| henrynash | dolphm: we definitely should get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46972/ in | 18:55 |
| dolphm | s/consuming/owned/ | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | dolphm: ayoung ok that sounds good | 18:55 |
| henrynash | bug 469722 | 18:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 469722 in nautilus "Karmic Koala does not automount usb devices (dup-of: 463347)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/469722 | 18:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 463347 in udev "devices not detected -- too many open files" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/463347 | 18:55 |
| henrynash | oops | 18:55 |
| ayoung | heh | 18:55 |
| henrynash | bug 46972 | 18:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 46972 in kubuntu-docs "index of links remained not translated for guides already translated" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46972 | 18:55 |
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| henrynash | hmm | 18:56 |
| dolphm | henrynash: then fix your pep8's :) | 18:56 |
| henrynash | bug 1226225 | 18:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226225 in keystone "v2 token cache not correctly invalidated when using "Belongs To"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226225 | 18:56 |
| * topol is henrynash moonlighting on other projects??? :-) | 18:56 | |
| henrynash | git it, duh... | 18:56 |
| henrynash | and that will enable bug 1153645 | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1153645 in keystone "Deleting a role should revoke any tokens associated with it" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153645 | 18:57 |
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| dolphm | speaking of random bug numbers, i hope everyone is familiar with bug 1 | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | dolphm: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable | 18:57 |
| dolphm | ha | 18:57 |
| dolphm | bug #1 | 18:57 |
| bknudson | uvirtbot doesn't even know bug 1. | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | dolphm: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | bknudson: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command. | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | bknudson: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable | 18:57 |
| dolphm | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 | 18:58 |
| uvirtbot | dolphm: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable | 18:58 |
| bknudson | wanted to mention I got a doc change in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46686/ | 18:58 |
| bknudson | bug 1090655 | 18:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1090655 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: keystone user groups" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1090655 | 18:59 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: awesome! | 18:59 |
| bknudson | a small pebble in the grand canyon of missing docs. | 18:59 |
| dolphm | one small step... | 18:59 |
| dolphm | switching to -dev | 18:59 |
| dolphm | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 18:59:40 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-09-17-18.01.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-09-17-18.01.txt | 18:59 |
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| fungi | just double-checking that nobody wants an infra meeting today... i'm free to answer questions or provide updates on stuff, but with most people afk for linuxcon and the tripleo sprint it's probably fine to just rap in #openstack-infra about things | 19:20 |
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| gabrielhurley | anybody around for the Horizon meeting? | 22:04 |
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| jpich | gabrielhurley: Yup | 22:05 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | (sorry I'm a few minutes late) | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 22:05:06 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:05 |
| lblanchard | gabrielhurley: yep | 22:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:05 |
| timductive1 | o/ | 22:05 |
| jcoufal | _o/ | 22:05 |
| julim | hi | 22:05 |
| lsmola_ | hello | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic overview | 22:05 |
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| gabrielhurley | I'm guessing this will mostly be a short meeting | 22:05 |
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| gabrielhurley | There was no OpenStack Project meeting today, so we're mostly in an "off week" | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | just letting the projects get work done | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | I went through the entire Horizon bug list and did a triage on things that needed to be closed and things that should be in RC1 | 22:06 |
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| gabrielhurley | I think I added about a dozen or so items to the RC1 bug list | 22:06 |
| lcheng | hello | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | nothing horrific though | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | the current count stands at 27 fixed and 29 open/in progress | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | so we're more than halfway there | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | very good shape all things considered | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll try and tackle some of these bugs in the next week myself, but feel free to grab things as you see fit | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | if anything is mis-triaged, feel free to comment and re-target as is appropriate | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | besides the bug stuff, I don't think there's much going on right now officially | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | the translation effort is going well | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | I've seen lots of emails about that | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | summit submissions are still open at summit.openstack.org | 22:09 |
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| gabrielhurley | we've got 6 sessions proposed currently, which is a reasonable number | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | more are still welcome | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | I think that's it for project overview stuff. | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | there are no specific bugs or blueprints that need mentioning, so I'll just go straight to open discussion | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic open discussion | 22:09 |
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| david-lyle | should the real-time work/plan be revisited in a session at the summit? | 22:10 |
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| gabrielhurley | yep, we should do another planning session | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | especially now that we've got people with hands-on experience | 22:10 |
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| gabrielhurley | (myself and Tomas Sedovic) | 22:10 |
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| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, quick question about Ceilometer blueprints for I1 | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | go for it | 22:11 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, would you have time to quickly go through them? | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | (fwiw I've hardly spent any time thinking about what goes into what milestone in I, btw) | 22:11 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, I have added bunch of blueprints, trying to track everything we need, just want to know if it make sense :-) | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | I generally do the triage of the next cycle's blueprints right around when the RC1 is cut for the current cycle, 'cuz that's when master reopens for new work | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | until then the focus is still on current things | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | but I'll absolutely look at them | 22:12 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, our plan (tuskar team) is to have them all implemented at the end of october | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | wow, that's ambitious | 22:12 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, so we can use them in tuskar :-) | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | of course | 22:13 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, well the plan is to have them in tuskar in November | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | well, hopefully trunk will re-open in another 1-2 weeks, so landing stuff in october is probably doable | 22:13 |
| jcoufal | that is ambitious | 22:13 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, of course there will be a lot of stuff not finished in Ceilometer, so it might not be 100%, but the important stuff should be there | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | gotcha | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | we'll have to take it case-by-case | 22:14 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, I have already started to work on some of them | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | can you send out an email with links to the ones you're particularly concerned with to the horizon-core team? (you can do this from launchpad) | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | that way we all know which are which and can offer feedback as we have it | 22:14 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, ok will try to find it, you should be able to click through dependencies :-) I have connected them all | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | great, thanks! | 22:16 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, also jcoufal should prepare some wireframes, so UX community can start discuss what is the best | 22:16 |
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| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, that gives us time to finish the underlying APIs | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | all of this sounds perfect | 22:17 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, great, thank you very much | 22:17 |
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| gabrielhurley | jcoufal: you good on helping with that? | 22:17 |
| jcoufal | gabrielhurley: surre, me and lblanchard are looking at those | 22:17 |
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| jcoufal | but fair to say, Novemebr sounds very optimistic | 22:18 |
| lblanchard | yep I will be helping too :) | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | heh. fair enough. I have no personal stake in it, so it's up to the folks doing the work to make reality match their ambitions | 22:18 |
| lsmola_ | agree it's optimistic but doable | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | I have to say it's pretty uncommon for full feature blueprints to land before the summit, but it does happen sometimes and there's no reason it can't/shouldn't | 22:19 |
| jcoufal | lsmola_, gabrielhurley: will see what we can do and how it goes | 22:19 |
| lsmola_ | if everything goes fine :-D | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | yep yep | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | :-) | 22:19 |
| lblanchard | yes, I think we will introduce the basics and continue to improve the data over time | 22:19 |
| lsmola_ | lblanchard, yes, exactly | 22:19 |
| jcoufal | yeah, depends on the scope, what we decide to cut off and leave for later on | 22:20 |
| lsmola_ | I do expect to improve it a lot, both from UX side and from Ceilometer side | 22:20 |
| jcoufal | lsmola: but the whole graphing itself is a bit challenging part which will consume large portion of the time | 22:20 |
| lsmola_ | jcoufal, yes that is kind of nightmare for me :-D | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | the more we leverage existing libraries for that the better | 22:21 |
| jcoufal | that's why I'm a bit more psimistic here | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | sadly my intern who was a data visualization genius left me :-( | 22:21 |
| jcoufal | not having good background in libraries so far | 22:21 |
| david-lyle | please excuse my ignorance, but is tuskar-ui horizon with an added infrastructure dashboard? | 22:21 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: unofficially yes | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | good question ^^^ | 22:22 |
| david-lyle | is that the only real difference? | 22:22 |
| jcoufal | sort of incubated project | 22:22 |
| lsmola_ | david-lyle, there will be only the infrastructure panel | 22:22 |
| jcoufal | acutally we try to build it as plugin to current horizon | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | I was just reading about tuskar... I'd heard the name but hadn't taken in what it did quite yet. That's an interesting problem to solve. I'd definitely like to see some cool UX work there. | 22:22 |
| jcoufal | so we are not doing any changes in horizon itself | 22:23 |
| david-lyle | so is the long term plan to keep it standalone or roll it into horizon? | 22:23 |
| david-lyle | as a plugin type of dashboard? | 22:23 |
| lblanchard | I think it all really depends on the use cases and how our users will want to access it... | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | until it's at least incubated it doesn't belong being shipped with OpenStack Dashboard, but if we can do work to support them, we absolutely should. | 22:23 |
| lblanchard | We need to do some research around if there is a user who will want to access both Project management and Infrastructure management | 22:24 |
| david-lyle | I understand, I'm just curious what the long term direction was | 22:24 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, the plan for us right now if to finish all ceilometer stuff in Horizon, while we wait for the Hardware Agent to be finished, then use it in Tuskar | 22:24 |
| david-lyle | lblanchard: fair enough | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | makes sense | 22:24 |
| lsmola_ | david-lyle, it is plugin right now | 22:24 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: so far, long-term goal is to roll it into horizon and help to improve horizon | 22:24 |
| jcoufal | but need more research there as lblanchard said | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | I find Tuskar interesting because it's closer to that original "core" IaaS mission, since it manages how the IaaS happens. | 22:25 |
| david-lyle | ok the source on github has a duplicate copy of horizon and openstack_dashboard | 22:25 |
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| david-lyle | hence some of my confusion | 22:25 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: yeah, right now it does | 22:25 |
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| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, yes exactly | 22:25 |
| jcoufal | and it's still keeping this track | 22:25 |
| david-lyle | jcoufal: there are cleaner ways to do that | 22:25 |
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| david-lyle | but, I assume the team is working on that | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | in the future it'll be easy enough to slim down their repo into just the pluggable dashboard/panel | 22:26 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: we can discuss some suggestion later, would be great | 22:26 |
| lsmola_ | david-lyle, try the source on stackforge?? not sure whether the plugin stage is 100% finished | 22:26 |
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| david-lyle | jcoufal: sure | 22:26 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: https://github.com/stackforge/tuskar-ui | 22:27 |
| lsmola_ | david-lyle, But It should be a plugin, although it will be running in a separate instance as it is managing Undercloud | 22:27 |
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| david-lyle | ok, I was looking at the wrong source | 22:27 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: was older one I guess | 22:27 |
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| jcoufal | it's pretty new though | 22:28 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: anyway, will be happy if you have some suggestion later | 22:28 |
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| gabrielhurley | cool, other items on peoples' minds? | 22:29 |
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| lsmola_ | that was all from me, just a quick thought :-D | 22:32 |
| jcoufal | lsmola_: took actually almost half an hour :) | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | lol | 22:33 |
| david-lyle | plug for the navigation proposals on google+ that lblanchard and jcoufal have been working on | 22:33 |
| david-lyle | really nice work | 22:33 |
| david-lyle | I'd love to see the IA discussion begin as well | 22:34 |
| gabrielhurley | +1 to that | 22:34 |
| jcoufal | yes please, anyone interested in next navigation generation, please have a look | 22:34 |
| lblanchard | :) thanks!! | 22:34 |
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| Toshi | +1! | 22:34 |
| lblanchard | yeah, please feel free to comment more | 22:34 |
| jcoufal | #link https://plus.google.com/115177641540718537778/posts/EEwGmhfDbHB (variant 1) | 22:34 |
| jcoufal | #link https://plus.google.com/114338935017256814972/posts/coQqJ9e8hHJ (variant 2) | 22:35 |
| lblanchard | thanks, jcoufal | 22:35 |
| jcoufal | or vice-versa :) doesn't matter | 22:35 |
| lsmola_ | cool | 22:35 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: want to start the IA discussions soon | 22:35 |
| david-lyle | great | 22:35 |
| jcoufal | At least some initial effort, so we have some background fopr HK | 22:35 |
| gabrielhurley | there's a lot to go through there already. I need to make some more time for that | 22:36 |
| lblanchard | yeah, I hope to have some time to spend with jcoufal over the next few weeks to put together some initial thoughts to make for a great conversation at the summit | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | but it's definitely good work | 22:36 |
| david-lyle | I added a bunch of bps for Icehouse to finish out the RBAC implementation to assist in the IA work | 22:36 |
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| lblanchard | we can definitely propose some thoughts before the summit too if that would help take some load off of the summit week | 22:36 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: that's awesome, it will help the IA a lot | 22:36 |
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| lblanchard | david-lyle: awesome | 22:37 |
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| david-lyle | I think having a good proposal before the summit will make the summit session more beneficial | 22:37 |
| lblanchard | david-lyle: agreed | 22:37 |
| david-lyle | if we try starting from scratch in a 40 minute session we aren't going to make it very far | 22:37 |
| lblanchard | haha, yes for sure :) | 22:37 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: agreed | 22:37 |
| jcoufal | another thing is the askbot for UX discussions, we managed to run it on our internal servers, currently working on puppet scripts, so I hope we are closer to make it actually happen! | 22:38 |
| gabrielhurley | that's awesome! | 22:39 |
| jcoufal | will be possible to get a domain ux.openstack.org as the UX space then? | 22:39 |
| jpich | Looking forward to it :) | 22:39 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm sure we can petition the foundation/infra folks for that | 22:39 |
| jcoufal | excellent | 22:39 |
| gabrielhurley | once you've got it to a point you're happy with it let me know and I'll find out who to talk to and get the ball rolling | 22:39 |
| jcoufal | that would be perfect, thanks, I will let you know with the progress then | 22:40 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:40 |
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| lsmola_ | cool | 22:41 |
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| gabrielhurley | okay, last call on topics | 22:41 |
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| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, maybe a little one | 22:42 |
| gabrielhurley | go for it | 22:42 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, I have added 3 bugs regarding ceilometer today, not sure if they should land in RC1 | 22:42 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, I have tagged them ceilometer I think | 22:42 |
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| gabrielhurley | I saw them. I targeted one to RC1, and the other two to looked more like work to build on in I | 22:43 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, oh ok, great | 22:43 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, thank you very much | 22:43 |
| gabrielhurley | of course | 22:43 |
| lsmola_ | gabrielhurley, not it is truly all from me :-D | 22:43 |
| amotoki_ | hi | 22:44 |
| amotoki_ | i have a small quesiton. | 22:44 |
| gabrielhurley | hi amotoki, got something? | 22:44 |
| gabrielhurley | go ahead | 22:44 |
| amotoki_ | i asked from LBaaS team. can we add a one field in LBaaS pool creation form? | 22:44 |
| gabrielhurley | sure | 22:44 |
| gabrielhurley | should be easy enough | 22:45 |
| gabrielhurley | is there a bug for it? | 22:45 |
| amotoki_ | not yet. | 22:45 |
| gabrielhurley | (I assume this isn't a field that would have some difficult UX issue) | 22:45 |
| amotoki_ | i was asked from them it is a mini feature or it can be dealt with a bug? | 22:45 |
| gabrielhurley | as long as the scope is small I'll let it slide as a bug | 22:46 |
| gabrielhurley | go ahead and open the bug and target it to RC1, if it seems unreasonable we can discuss further | 22:46 |
| amotoki_ | thanks. anyway i will file a bug to clearify its scope. | 22:46 |
| gabrielhurley | great | 22:46 |
| gabrielhurley | okay, checking again on last call | 22:47 |
| gabrielhurley | going once | 22:47 |
| gabrielhurley | going twice | 22:47 |
| gabrielhurley | gone! have a great week folks, keep up the bugfixing and reviews, and we'll check in again next week. | 22:48 |
| gabrielhurley | thank you all, as always | 22:48 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 22:48:22 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:48 |
| lblanchard | bye all! Thanks! | 22:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-09-17-22.05.html | 22:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-09-17-22.05.txt | 22:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-09-17-22.05.log.html | 22:48 |
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| julim | thank you. bye. | 22:48 |
| lsmola_ | bye, good night | 22:48 |
| jcoufal | thanks very much guys, have a great one | 22:48 |
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| amotoki_ | thank! | 22:50 |
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| amotoki_ | I haven't known tuskar so far. it looks interesting. | 22:50 |
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| lsmola_ | amotoki, cool, glad you like it | 22:53 |
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| lsmola_ | amotoki, although it is very young, we will have a working demo on Hongkong, and a working thing in about 9 months | 22:55 |
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| lsmola_ | amotoki, a stable release in 9 months is more precise :-) | 22:57 |
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| lsmola_ | good night guys, going to sleep | 22:57 |
| amotoki_ | good night! | 22:57 |
| david-lyle | thanks for the info lsmola_ | 22:58 |
| lsmola_ | david-lyle, you are welcome | 22:58 |
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